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Members of Liberty kneel together before taking on Arbor View on Friday, Aug. 26, 2011.
Monday, Aug. 13, 2012 | 2:05 a.m.
Prep Sports Now
The Return of Football Season
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Las Vegas Sun sports reporters Ray Brewer and Case Keefer are back with a comprehensive — or some would say long-winded — look at high school football. They go division-by-division and team-by-team in this exhaustive 2012 debut. So settle in on the couch with a Snuggie or plan to make a round-trip drive from Boulder City to Shadow Ridge in order to listen to this one.
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The teams will decide this argument.
When putting together the Sun’s preseason high school football top 10, there were two options for the No. 2 spot behind three-time defending state champion Bishop Gorman High at No. 1.
Palo Verde, which has a 59-6 record since 2007 and is the last local team to beat Gorman, is a perennial power and more than deserving. After all, the Panthers’ lone two defeats since 2010 have each come to Gorman in the playoffs, and they surrendered only 117 points in 12 games last year.
Then, there is two-time defending Sunrise Regional champion Liberty.
The Patriots put a scare into Gorman during last year’s state semifinals, twice holding leads in the first half and trailing by one point midway through the third quarter before losing, 56-34.
Although both teams are worthy, the nod went to Liberty — yes, the effort against Gorman was that impressive.
The rankings were determined by the Sun’s Case Keefer and Ray Brewer. Come Sept. 13, however, the players on Liberty and Palo Verde will have their say when they meet in the most anticipated nonleague game of the season.
Here are the rankings.
Follow Ray Brewer on Twitter at @RayBrewer21.
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1. Bishop Gorman
The nationally ranked and three-time defending state champion Gaels have been the only team in the top spot of the Sun’s weekly rankings in the past three years and haven’t lost a regular season game to a local opponent since 2006. They are led by some of the state’s top players: quarterback Anu Solomon (an Arizona commit), junior running back Nate Starks (offers from Oklahoma and Texas), wide receiver Ryan Smith , defensive lineman Jake Smirk and defensive back Justin Sweet . When it’s all said and done, nine of the Gaels’ seniors could have college scholarships — a big reason Gorman is 43-3 in the past three years with wins against nationally ranked, out-of-state opponents. Pictured are defensive tackle Marquis Hunkin (left), running back Tajon Allen (front) and senior wide receiver Jamir Tillman.
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2. Liberty
The Patriots have won the past two Sunrise Regional championships and are the clear favorites to repeat. Senior running back Niko Kapeli , a UNLV commit, is already the school’s all-time leading rusher, proving he’s the real deal by gaining 237 yards from scrimmage and scoring two touchdowns last year against Gorman in the state semifinals. Kai Nacua (BYU) returns for his third season at quarterback and will see significant action at linebacker. Silverado transfer Chris Noone (front) will anchor the offensive line, Hawaii move-in Jay Mitchell (left) gives the Patriots the speed they previously lacked and Phoenix Uptain (right) returns at linebacker.
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3. Palo Verde
The Panthers’ two defeats in the past two seasons have each come against eventual state champion Bishop Gorman. Continuing the success will rely on how seniors Ryan Beaulieu and Lee Griggs perform — they’ll play running back, defensive back and on special teams. Senior Brad Solomon (left) will lead the offensive line, which traditionally is one of Palo Verde’s strengths. Senior Andrew Simister (right) is a two-way performer at fullback and linebacker.
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4. Arbor View
The Aggies, which reached the Sunset semifinals in the past two seasons, have a 19-5 record since 2010 in becoming one of the Las Vegas Valley’s perennial top-5 teams. This year, led by three-star recruit Elijah George and Steven Davis (middle) on the offensive line, the Aggies’ double-wing ground attack again will give opponents fits. Senior running back Donnie Gaskin (left) rushed for more than 1,200 yards last year and returns as the feature back. Twins Rasheed (far right) and Rasheem Parks will be key contributors on both sides of the ball.
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5. Centennial
The Bulldogs have won playoff games in the past two seasons, including last year when they were one play away from reaching the Sunset Regional championship game. With several key returners and more depth than most of the area’s teams, Centennial is likely to make another postseason run. They are led by senior defender Trajan Pili (third from left), a BYU commit, and quarterback/safety Austin Turley (far right). Chris Johnson and (second left) Coby Newton (left) will make key contributions on both sides of the ball at running back and linebacker.
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6. Canyon Springs
After finally getting past Las Vegas last year to claim the Northeast Division title, the Pioneers failed to win a playoff game in a disappointing end to the season. Determined to make amends for the upset to Basic, they have the talent — namely San Diego State commit Donnel Pumphrey at running back, linebacker and fullback Tobias Carson and defensive lineman Rayshawn Henderson — to have a memorable season. Canyon Springs’ core group of players, including Stephone Revels (left), Fabian Leos (middle) and A.J. Cooper (right), has lost just one league game in the past two years.
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7. Basic
The Wolves proved they can score against any team in town during last year’s Sunrise Regional quarterfinals, having their way in the passing game for a 42-21 victory to knock off top-seeded Canyon Springs. Basic returns its top offensive threats in wide receiver Devonte Boyd, a key UNLV recruiting target, and athletic junior Antraye Johnson. Basic will also be led by, from left to right, safety Anthony Owens, linebacker Mike Roberts and offensive lineman Ian Bates.
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8. Las Vegas
The Wildcats reached the Sunrise semifinals last year but graduated their top two players, quarterback Hasaan Henderson and Farrell Victor. The duo accounted for 75 percent of Las Vegas’ offense in the past two years. Although it isn’t a top-5 team for the first time in more than a decade, Las Vegas still has plenty of weapons. Sophomore quarterback Trevor Swenson has the ability to be a game-changer, senior Vince Castro (left) was an all-league selection last year at wide receiver, and the defense returns nose guard Lahmed Evans (center) and all three of its starting linebackers. Joshua Mayfield (right) will create big plays at wide receiver and in the return game.
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9. Foothill
The Falcons return just six starters — two on offense and four on defense — from last year’s team, which reached the Sunrise Regional finals. The two returners on offense, however, are two of the state’s best. San Diego State commit Tyler Morris (middle) and junior quarterback Drew Doxtator (2,668 yards and 37 touchdowns in 2011) will be tough to stop. Senior Andre Gonzalez (left) will start at wide receiver and defensive back, and senior defensive end Joe Wythe (right) has developed into a threat up front.
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10. Durango
The Trailblazers will have two of the best players on the field each Friday night in running back Marcus Williams , a Utah commit, and Arie McQuaig , and first-year coach Matt Gerber plans to give each plenty of carries. Add in 5-foot-11, 220-pound fullback Gene Germain (left) in the backfield, along with linemen Ben Rush (middle) and Jonathan Kalderon (left), and Durango has enough pieces to make a run in the stacked Sunset Region.
Looking forward to another stellar year. Go Gaels!
Right call on ranking Liberty over PV. I think they should have been the clear #2 at end of season last year (after state was over) with AV third, PV 4th. I would have even put Foothill at #5 over Reed. I think their solid feeder program and 5-6 football transfers over summer (from what i've heard haven't confirmed) are the bigger reason to rank them #2. They have turned a new football team into a respected football program (locally) in just a few years. I really really hope they put on a good show against Crespi. Palo has the schedule to justify a #3 ranking soon after the season kicks off. I hope they do better than I predict against Desert Vista or the 3rd best NV team will get beat by the 5-6th best from AZ.
Ray, last year you had your love affair with Canyon which a lot of us thought was premature (Thanks Basic for proving us right) I was very happy when they beat Vegas and very sad to see their underwhelming support from parents, students and administration at their game against Basic.
However I think you're right this time, a little higher than I would rank them, but they're ready to have a solid year. I think they are a top 10 team this year. Not 6 but maybe 9-10 or just outside the top ten. I think Canyon has the team to justify those rankings. I think outside of Gorman, Canyon Springs has the toughest opening 4 games, followed by Liberty and PV. Canyon could very well start the season 0-4. It's not a stretch they're playing the #2, #3, #9 ranked teams then Cheyenne which could easily be a top ten team. The only saving grace for Canyon is that the tough opening games will prepare them for the softest league in the new Div I and they could finish 5-4 or 4-5 and the #1 or #2 team in the NE.
I think by seasons end the top 2 teams in Div 1A will be better than the 8/9/10 ranked teams in D1. And with that i'll throw out my pre season top 10. I say everyone should. It's only fair. Ray will likely take a lot of jazzing throughout the season for his pre season rankings and weekly picks so it's only fair we leave ourselves open for the same. Albeit none of us have been able to study the teams as deeply as Mr. Brewer.
How they'll finish in Divisions:
Div 1A Sunrise
#1 Moapa
#2 Desert Pines
Div 1A Sunset
#1 Cheyenne
#2 Mojave
NE
#1 Canyon Springs
#2 Las Vegas
#3 Green Valley
#4 Silverado
SE
#1 Liberty
#2 Foothill
#3 Basic
#4 Del Sol
NW
#1 Arbor View
#2 Palo Verde
#3 Durango
#4 Shadow Ridge
SW
#1 Bishop Gorman
#2 Centennial
#3 Legacy
#4 Cimarron-Memorial
Div IA Championship
Cheyenne over Truckee (home field advantage)
Div I Championship
Gorman over Liberty (thank god this year it may actually work out that the two best teams in the state meet in the final not the Sunset Championship or other prior to final etc..)
Top Ten
1 Gorman
2 Liberty
3 Arbor View
4 Foothill
5 Palo Verde
6 Centennial
7 Basic
8 Reed
9 Canyon Springs
10 Cheyenne
*Truckee, Las Vegas,Durango, Moapa Valley and Douglas
The best team money can buy.
The majority of Gorman's players are paid (receive a $10,000++ scholarship http://www.bishopgorman.org/page.aspx?pi... ). I think the scholarships are great; they open doors for many disadvantaged students.
You are comparing public teams that are the best of the neighborhood to Gorman that has the best of the city by poaching the best players from public schools. It is demoralizing to the public teams and absolutely unfair to rate. It would be like rating UNLV compared to the NBA or a AAA baseball team to the majors, an unfair comparison.
Great analysis by tuasdad. I really liked Liberty's team and coaching last year and hope that they can continue to play at a high level.
I like your thinking Tuasdad. I'm not scared to be wrong!! (Or right!) However, because 4 teams make the playoffs in both the Division 1 and Division 1A Sunrise and Sunset, I'll give my top 4 in each.
Div 1-A Sunrise
#1- Moapa Valley
#2- Desert Pines
#3- Boulder City
#4- Virgin Valley
Div 1-A Sunset
#1- Cheyenne
#2- Mojave
#3- Clark
#4- Faith Lutheran
Divi 1-A North
#1- Truckee
#2- Churchill County
#3- Elko
#4- Lowry
Those results would make the following State Semi:
Moapa Valley hosting Churchill County
Truckee hosting Cheyenne
Per Niaa, after the divisional playoffs if the same two seeds are remaining (that would be #1 Moapa and #1 Cheyenne) then the Sunrise team would host the state semi in even ending years -2012- and the Sunset would host the state semi in odd ending years-2013. So that means Cheyenne would be traveling up to face the North #1 seed Truckee. And there is no way in heck that Cheyenne is going up to Truckee in November and beating them. So that means I'm predicting ANOTHER Moapa vs. Truckee State Championship!!!
Division 1:
SE
#1- Liberty
#2- Basic
#3- Foothill
#4- Del Sol
NE
#1- Canyon Springs
#2- Las Vegas
#3- Green Valley
#4- Valley
NW
#1- Palo Verde
#2- Arbor View
#3- Durango
#4- Spring Valley
SW
#1- Gorman
#2- Centennial
#3- Cimarron
#4- Desert Oasis
I'm not sure how the playoffs are set up with which conference has to go up North for state semi's, but I think the Gorman vs. Liberty state championship sounds pretty good to me.
Now time for the overall top 10
#1- Gorman
#2- Liberty
#3- Palo Verde
#4- Centennial
#5- Arbor View
After #5 I think there is a major drop-off and this is where you could slide some Div 1-A teams in with the "big boys"
#6- Truckee
#7- Basic
#8- Moapa Valley
#9- Canyon Springs
#10-Reed
*Foothill, Cheyenne, Desert Pines, Cimarron, Durango
After the Top 5, I think you could interchange #6-#15. Any one of those teams could beat each other. But the top 5 teams are clearly the top 5 teams in my mind. Can't wait for Saturday!!
I think tausdad did a good job with rankings and comments. I believe Liberty, Palo ,Arbor and Foothill are all about even. Is this the year that Arbor beats Palo? Can someone in Nevada beat Gorman? Has Las Vegas reloaded? Can Canyon be a power outside of their conference? I got Valley as my sleeper to make the playoffs.
Div1A is gooing to be fun, new State Trophey. Who will get it? A lot of good early matchups in this division that might turn out to be rematches in the playoffs.My sleeper in this division, Boulder and Faith to make the playoffs.
I'm also glad to see Liberty and Palo stepin up to play out of state teams. We need more than Gorman doing it if we want people out of Nevada to repect Nevada football. Good luck and kick some butt!!!!
@tuasdad
You are very much incorrect if you think in the NW that Arbor View will finish first. In fact, they will come in behind Palo and Durango. And Shadow Ridge will not even get a breath of playoffs, finishing behind Spring Valley and Sierra Vista
thanks vegasbike, coachearl and sportsarefun.
I am glad others are throwing their predictions out there. It makes the season and conversation a lot more fun. Gives us something to debate and holds more than just Ray and Keefer open for criticism and jazzing.
I must have misinterpreted the NIAA playoff scenario. I looked at it for region would be #1 SR Moapa vs #2 SS Mojave (Moapa winning) and #1 SS Cheyenne vs #2 SR Desert Pines (Cheyenne winning) With Cheyenne being ranked #1 south and Moapa #2..meaning Moapa vs Truckee semi with winner likely playing Cheyenne in southern nevada.... but I see now with the re-ranking for state that they may rank Moapa #1 from South and Cheyenne #2 (I assume based on league record, then non league if both the same?) Then Cheyenne would have to travel to play Truckee, where I would favor Truckee. Anybody have a sure answer for how they'll re-rank for state? I think Moapa is likely to have the better over all record but they and Cheyenne will likely have 0 or 1 league loses.
PUBLICSCHOOLPARENT- I very well may be very wrong. So could you. These are opinions and it's pre season. There are very few guarantees anyone has about their predictions in August. That's why we play the games. Today is first day of practice in pads so most of us know a little about a couple teams and very little about the rest and what happens on the field could be very unpredictable. Canyon could start the season 0-4 or 4-0 who knows. It's all in good fun. Plus I have to go out on a limb on some of these or everyone's picks and rankings would look the same. I'm picking Foothill who lost their entire O line to be ranked over Palo. Risky at best. You should try it, throw out your predictions. 99% of us will be wrong about something.
Who last year would have predicted (pre season) that Del Sol (pre season top 10) wouldn't make the playoffs and get pounded by 3A Moapa? Who would have guessed that Centennial would come so close to beating Palo or that such a young Canyon Springs team would beat Vegas finally? That Silverado (pre season top 10) wouldn't make the playoffs? All season Ray had Canyon in top 10 and they lose at home to unranked Basic.. again it's a crapshoot. That's the fun and uncertainty of PREDICTIONS. They're opinions, often wrong, but fun to compare, join in.
Also rumor is that Gorman's freshmen and JV teams will play against rivals #1 in country Santa Margarita JV/Frosh in August and 4 days later play a game in Utah. Otherwise both their first games would have been Sep 22nd in Cali against Servite. Hopefully JV and Fresh do better than varsity, from waht I heard SM was in 10x better shape than Gorman for their 7 on 7. And 1 of Liberty's new additions from Hawaii only lasted a couple days practicing with Gorman before deciding to go over to Liberty. Kudos to Liberty's program but just for arguments sake do you really think 25 Polynesian football studs just happen to live near Bermuda and St Rose? C'mon now. You build it and they will come applies to every solid program in this country. Million dollar facilities or not. Vegas has gotten a large portion of the east side talent for a decade without anymore equipment or benefits to offer than other publics.
sportsarefun... I agree with the top 5 and the rest comment. I would say top top 4 last year i would say top 3 this year are head and shoulders above the rest. Also I don't know the north well enough to rank them outside of truckee being the clear favorite but I thought it was 4 from north make regional playoffs and 4 from south (2 from SS 2 from SR) I know the north has a lot of opinions, and often doesn't get enough credit but the more I think about it and the more people say that last years Reed was hot stuff the more I disagree. I think Liberty, Palo, AV, Foothill would have beaten last years Reed. I think Basic could have come close. 02 and 08 and maybe even '10 McQueen was better than last years Reed. They suffered from a bad year for north teams coupled with weakest playoffs in the country to get a ticket directly into the title game. Most years the top two teams from the north could compete or beat most teams form the south. I dont think Carson or Reed could have beaten our top 5 or would have made it to state if they were in the SE or NW leagues.
Also PublicSchool, admit tingly the league i have the least personal knowledge about about the inner workings of would be the northwest so wouldn't shock me to be wrong there.
NE
#1 Las Vegas
#2 Canyon Springs
#3 Green Valley
#4 Silverado
SE
#1 Liberty
#2 Foothill
#3 Del Sol
#4 Basic
NW
#1 Palo Verde
#2 Durango
#3 Arbor View
#4 Spring Valley
SW
#1 Bishop Gorman
#2 Centennial
#3 Legacy
#4 Cimarron-Memorial
Don't look past the Longhorns. Their system is easy enough to grasp. If they can stay disciplined for 4 quarters and play smart under pressure they can suprise some people. I predict they sneak into the playoffs.
I was counting down the days. Thank God for such a great staff at the Sun. Your coverage blows away the North and Orange County Register. I actually missed reading all the High School Football Comments over lunch. Sinatra, TuasDad, CoachEarl, and the rest, We will not agree all year but its sure fun to read and participate about the best sport in the Valley. HIGH SCHOOL Football! (Sorry Rebels)
This is copied and pasted directly from niaa.com
Division I-A, Option 2 = The top four (4) teams out of the Northern League qualify for the Northern Region playoffs; the top four (4) teams out of the Sunrise League and the top four (4) teams out of the Sunset League qualify for the eight-team Southern Region playoffs. Teams in the Northern League will contest a league playoff round, by seeding, to get two state semifinalists; teams in the Sunrise and Sunset leagues will "cross bracket" with the appropriately-seeded teams from the other league in their region playoffs for two rounds to get two (state semi) finalists. The Northern League and Southern Region will cross-bracket in the state semifinals (example: the Sunrise League No. 1 seed would be the Southern Region's top seed and thus host one state semifinal game against the No. 2 Northern team in 2012 / even years should that team win its first two region playoff games -- the Sunset No. 1 would be the overall Southern's No. 1 in 2013 / odd years).
So that means if Moapa and Cheyenne are both number 1 seeds, Moapa would be hosting 2012 while Cheyenne travels north. If it was 2013 then Cheyenne would host and Moapa would travel north. Here's the link:
http://niaa.com/board/minutes/2012_NIAA_...
Most likely Gorman will win State again
Tua...all well said save for 1 part...
"just for arguments sake do you really think 25 Polynesian football studs just happen to live near Bermuda and St Rose?"
The question gives off the wrong impression about Liberty. If you are ever interested in the truth, come to our neighborhood and see for yourself. We'll share some plate lunches with you with a few ice cold Heineken's to wash it down!
We've been investigated so many times for that very charge to the point where it was either an NIAA rep or Clark County rep that would show up at the kids homes to see if they truly lived there. We were exonerated every time. Then coaches from other schools tried to report that we had too many coaches. Apparently there's some rule that a team cant have more than 13 coaches (or something like that). It's a real rule...just ridiculous. It's not like the coaches get paid but it was chance to have our games forfeited. Once again, we were cleared. Is it so hard to believe that people who wanted to make a difference actually made a difference. The Polynesians on Liberty's football team actually do live in the zone! There was a player that lived outside the zone but he went to our feeder middle school and was approved for a zone variance before ever starting high school (and has since graduated). There is 1 kid who recently moved out of the Liberty zone but is a senior and he started high school as a Patriot and wants to graduate as such. It isnt coincidence...it's very intentional that these families live in the zone. People keep saying there's no way all of those islander families live in that area. Well it's an old argument that has never taken. Playing around with the rules is too much for us simple island folk. So we tell folks if you want to play at Liberty you better move into the zone! Simple as that! It's far easier and drama-free to comply. I know BG knows about our zone. It's the same zone where they found Anu! LOL... Great picks and opinions. It's going to be another good year for growth in Las Vegas' high school football. My best to all the teams this year!
Tauanuu i'll definitely take you guys up on the plate lunch but pass on the Heine.. I know after i went to the Basic/Liberty game I sat on the wrong sideline when I was offered the food and hospitality by Liberty parents after it was too late. You're right I shouldn't further other sentiments or rumors without knowing they are true or not. That's the last you hear of me repeating that one.
Sportsarefun- thanks I was only looking at the brackets not the minutes from the meeting. Good looking out. That now makes things even more interesting for the already exciting 1A.
sports- forgot to add that IMHO 8 teams making the playoff from southern 1A is too many. It makes it more fun but it's an already watered down state having all but 4 teams in the southern 1A make playoffs doesn't help. It's almost as bad as the former Northern 4A where 8 of 11 northern 4A teams made the playoffs. Teams with 1-2-3 wins have no business in the playoffs which is what that allows for.
sarcasm Daydreamer? Gorman has one player in the NFL right now, granted a lot in the last 1-4 years are playing D1 ball but only one pro. Western HS has 2.
(list from nevadaprepreport)
Nevada NFL Football Players
RB Steven Jackson (St Louis Rams) Eldorado
RB DeMarco Murray (Dallas Cowboys) Bishop Gorman
WR Juron Criner (Oakland Raiders) Canyon Springs
WR Phillip Payne (San Diego Chargers/UFA) Western
OT Dan Knapp (Oakland Raiders/UFA) Reno
OG Harvey Dahl (St Louis Rams) Churchill County
DT Billy Winn (Cleveland Browns) Las Vegas
DT Lawrence Guy (Green Bay Packers) Western
DT Michael Cosgrove (Detroit Lions/UFA) Desert Pines
ILB Ben Jacobs (Cleveland Browns) Silverado
ILB Paul Vassallo (Arizona Cardinals/UFA) Bishop Manogue
OLB Brandon Marshall (Jacksonville Jaguars) Cimarron
OLB Stevenson Sylvester (Pittsburg Steelers) Valley
OLB Korey Toomer (Seattle Seahawks) Shadow Ridge
CB Chris Carr (Minnesota Vikings) McQueen
S Josh Barrett (New England) Reno
S D.J. Campbell (Carolina Panthers) Cheyenne
I agree with Wm Gordon.....BG....best team money can buy....and if you have enough money....regardless of the hue and cry about taking them out of the league....they still get to play...amazing what can happen if you grease the right palms....
It's that time again! I know I'm ready for some football!! Great to see your posts Tuasdad. Always insightful. Ray and Case, I can't wait for the podcasts to begin. Hoping to see/hear a piece on the 4 seniors at Gorman battling for a shot a 4 in a row! Welcome back to all the hateful as well! They keep the board interesting...well, maybe that's putting too much on it.
To the boys at Liberty...Cheehoooooo!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Xltman, if you can't beat em....
Good luck to all the teams and I wish a healthy season to all the student athletes laying it on the line!!
Should be a very good season with every team coming out strong. In Hawaii, we started our pre season and teams coming out strong. If there is 1thing that we continuously teach our kids here in the islands, is ,play with your heart. (not to go off the subject). After reading all these comments, I had to find out for myself if a comment about bg going into liberty's zone to find Anu was true. Made 1 call to the right person and all I can say is UNTRUE. It was the his choice and this is where he preferred to go. NUFFSED
LOL..Heineken reference pertains to the islanders "beer of choice" around here. I'm with you though...food and soda's it is!
BTW..the "best team money can buy" cry is so tired. It is what it is...leave things as they are and step up your game. The way I see it, it will mean a lot more when your team can step up and knock down the king of the mountain. That's why we dont want BG to go or play anywhere else! We want a shot again and again and again because each time we're getting better and better and better!
I know..optimistic much? Yes we are...a lot! It's what keeps us relentless at Liberty. With all due respect to other teams in the valley and the state, Gorman we are comin right back at you! Gird your loins everyone! LOL... we're gearin up to kick everybody right in the sack to get to the Gaels! hehehe... Love high school football!!! Go Patriots!!
islandmana, the reference is to the fact Anu comes from Liberty's zone. That's all. Nothing negative meant by it so dont make anything more of it. Many of Anu's biggest fans are right here at Liberty including his former coaches. He is also from our Island Warriors youth program and practiced with Liberty in preparation to start high school. He was blessed with an opportunity to go to Gorman and he took it with all of our support! TRUTHSED
Not making anything of it. Just saying. The las Vegas sun reader's need to whats true and what's false. Wishing all teams a great season.
Finally, Football is upon us...
Let the games begin.
Re: Players in the NFL
Josh Mauga, LB, Churchill County, (Fallon)
Is still listed on the N.Y. Jets roster.
http://www.nfl.com/player/joshmauga/7960...
good catch Keith...that makes Churchill County and Western with double to amount of current NFL players than Gorman has. BTW I didn't realize Cody Fajardo was from Servite...Servite fans keep a good eye on Nevada Football now
Fallon was still 4A when Josh Mauga graduated, and went to UNR. I watched him play in the Sertoma Classic. (The High School All Star game for Seniors that have just graduated. It is for Charity, and has the "Top 100" Seniors in what was Divisions 4A, 3A, and 2A, in the North.)
Many 3A players performed just as well as the 4A players, and it has always been too bad that those players have not received their due attention from UNR and UNLV, when it comes to recruiting.
Josh Mauga also played for the New England Patriots...
This year's Sertoma Classic had an extra twist, as the Reed Coaching Staff faced the Truckee Coaching Staff, in a fun, hard fought, close thriller of a game.
Ya, i noted that most if not all of the selected players actually participated in the north all star game unlike down south where the majority did not due to risk of injury. I'd love to see a north vs south all star game where they would actually participate but there's not enough money to be made to make that happen. If there's one thing I envy about the north it's their community support. I've seen northern teams bring more fans down to Vegas than some locals schools have in their stands on Friday nights. I also wish more schools schedule regular season, non league games against a northern opponent, just so we would have a common opponent to debate over and give us something to chew on until state.
Private schools should not compete with public schools. If the guys on scholarship could not play football or basketball the admin and the parents would never let those gangbangers near their school or daughters. In Minnesota over the last 10 seasons private schools have won the state hockey title half the time in both class a and class aa. To compete Gorman should be required to take all special needs kids that live in what would be their district without making them pay tution. Does anyone know how many minority students attend BG that do not play sports?
Hermit- Caution Hermit your ignorance is showing. That's an awful stereotypical statement to make. One thing is criticizing private school advantage which is fine, but to classify people on tuition assistance as "gangbangers" is beyond ignorant.
I wasn't aware I was a gangbanger because I was a minority and received tuition assistance. Note to self. "Gangbangers" from Gorman have gone on to Ivy League Schools, military academies and just plain regular colleges. The bloods and crips must be proud.
Not every student -athlete or not, tuition assistance or not, makes it through college and I can think of more silver spoon fed trust fund kids I went to school with that went on to overdose, drop out, or just become exactly what their parents didn't want than I can think of other students who were on tuition assistance that didn't take full advantage of the opportunity afforded to them. There are more "gangbangers" at Gorman who contribute nothing to athletics than there are those who do. I think it was something like 60% of student receive some amount of financial assistance. I worked 3 jobs in high school to cover my Gorman tuition that wasn't covered by assistance, glad to know that made me a gangbanger.
Present a valid argument sir nobody says you have to like it or agree but choose your words carefully.
Tuasdad, your optimism is starting to show. The sad truth is that "Hermit" DID choose the words carefully. Hermit's bigotry, ignorance and racism is exactly who Hermit is. I've made it clear that posts filled with Gorman hate is welcome and amusing. Posts filled with comments aimed at the KIDS are reflective of something much more backwater, inbred, ignorant and a host of other expletives.
You're likely right CalBear...
By the way for those of you that are interested you can cheer on Moapa Valley and Palo Verde from the comfort of your home via the live stream thanks to the AIA
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Oh you have to love this time of year. Everyone has big hopes. Everyone has an opinion that at this time cannot be proven wrong. So it's all good. And yes our Liberty team is ready. We did get some nice transfers but nothing illegal. And our freshmen team is the best in the city. But this year feels different. There seems to be a lot more excitement. Loads of talent all over the city. Can't wait. Does anyone know the schedule for this weekend as far as scrimmages? Also, love the new alignment. It's created better non-league games. Liberty plays Palo, then Palo plays C Springs, then C Springs plays Liberty. That's going to tell us a lot real quick.
Love reading the post, whether we agree or not. If anyone hears any news about the upcoming scrimmages please share the info.
agreed lvfootball. Also outside of Gorman Canyon has the toughest local schedule PV, Liberty, Cheyenne and Foothill? Trial by fire for Hunky Cooper and Co.
AS for scrimmages this is what I know for sure:
Friday 08/17
6PM At Gorman vs themselves
Saturday 08/18
9AM
At Basic vs Boulder City vs Western
7PM
At Del Sol vs Desert Pines vs Shadow Ridge vs Silverado
Thanks Tuasdad. If anyone else knows of any other scrimmages please post it.
Gangbangers... at Gorman... I don't think so. I keep hereing about the Liberty and their freshman team. Most of those kids played in the middle school league, but they did not win the championship, Mojave did. Don't over look Mojave, they are young but talented. Also Palo and Centiniel has pulled in some good talent also.
Scmimage Saturday at Mojave freshman at 8:30 JV at 10:30 Varsity at 5pm or 6pm Mojave,Deset Oasis,Rancho, and Spring Valley
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Division 1A Sunrise
1. Moapa Valley
2. Desert Pines
3. Boulder City
4. Chaparral
5. Virgin Valley
6. Sunrise Mountain
Division 1A Sunset
1. Cheyenne
2. Mojave
3. Faith Lutheran
4. Clark
5. Western
6. Pahrump Valley
Sunrise Northeast
1. Canyon Springs
2. Silverado
3. Las Vegas
4. Valley
5. Green Valley
6. Rancho
Sunrise Southeast
1. Liberty
2. Foothill
3. Basic
4. Coronado
5. Del Sol
6. Eldorado
Sunset Northwest
1. Palo Verde
2. Arbor View
3. Durango
4. Spring Valley
5. Sierra Vista
6. Shadow Ridge
Sunset Southwest
1. Bishop Gorman
2. Centennial
3. Cimarron
4. Legacy
5. Desert Oasis
6. Bonanza
Southern Nevada Rankings
1. Bishop Gorman
2. Liberty
3. Palo Verde
4. Arbor View
5. Centennial
6. Canyon Springs
7. Foothill
8. Cimarron
9. Durango
10. Basic
11. Silverado
12. Coronado
13. Cheyenne
14. Legacy
15. Las Vegas
16. Moapa Valley
17. Desert Oasis
18. Bonanza
19. Valley
20. Green Valley
21. Del Sol
22. Rancho
23. Desert Pines
24. Spring Valley
25. Sierra Vista
26. Mojave
27. Faith Lutheran
28. Eldorado
29. Boulder City
30. Virgin Valley
31. Clark
32. Shadow Ridge
33. Chaparral
34. Western
35. Sunrise Mountain
36. Pahrump Valley
Toughest division = Southwest.
Division 1A Championship
Cheyenne over Moapa Valley
Division 1 Championship
Bishop Gorman over Liberty
I watched liberty scrimmage this weekend vs chey and legacy they are no where near as good as they were last year. Legacy was the best team on the field?
I like the comments that encourage the CCSD teams to step up in regards to Gorman. The high level of play at BGHS is making all the programs much better. Arbor View played them twice last year and we got a wake up call about how tough and focused you have to be to compete. I think Palo and AV would both handle Liberty--especially Palo with the D backs to handle Liberty's passing game. Centennial's passing game in the So. Nev. land of speed running attacks will be interesting.
Hey Gorman! Why not help out Clark and Western with an upgrade to their facilities?
Go Aggies--Awesome line play this year could be a difference maker.