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Protesters rally outside an event where Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joseph Arpaio spoke Friday.
Friday, May 7, 2010 | 7:54 p.m.
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A protest of Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph Arpaio’s visit to Las Vegas on Friday became heated when the Arizona lawman tried to talk to participants.
Arpaio is a supporter Arizona’s tough new immigration law making it a crime under state law to be in the U.S. illegally. The law requires police to question people about their immigrant status if they suspect they are here illegally.
Chants of “go home” and “leave” were directed at Arpaio as he approached the group rallying outside of Stoney’s Rockin’ Country bar, where he was speaking to a conservative group.
“I have a right to be in Las Vegas,” Arpaio said. “If I told them to go home, I’d be the bad guy.”
Metro Police had about 25 officers at the scene as a precaution, Lt. Dan McGrath said. Only three officers stood between the group of protesters and the sheriff.
Arpaio said he doesn’t understand why there was a protest of Arizona’s law. No one is asking for anyone’s papers unless they commit a crime, he said.
Protesters allege Arpaio is racist and harasses people based on the color of their skin.
Sara Elsing, 50, was screaming and demanding that Arpaio leave. She said he should go back to Arizona, because Nevada doesn’t want a similar immigration law.
“I feel like Arpaio got on the wrong plane,” Elsing said. “He needs to go to Germany and to concentration camps, where his beliefs are valued.”
Arpaio said Maricopa County police arrested 25 illegal aliens working in a Phoenix business on Thursday. He said some of them had phony IDs.
“I should be a hero,” Arpaio said. “They should be thanking me.”
Instead, people carried signs, blew whistles and recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
Joseph Tatner, a Republican running for the 1st Congressional District seat, was there and said he was “against amnesty but for immigration reform. I try to unite people. Don’t call me a racist.”
Speaking to a protester, Tatner said, “Let’s face it, the vast majority of illegal aliens come into the country from Mexico.”
The protester responded by telling Tatner he would never be elected.
i lived in phoenix, i think that sheriff joe does a great job at what he does i think that more counties should take after him. why should a criminal get everything for free? at least he has a chain gain that cleans the highways from all the garbage unlike the highways around here that are always cluttered with trash, and as for the illegal's that dont belong here taking jobs from tax paying people that keep the money in the system i am glad arizona is willing to take a stand for there country and CITIZENS, now if all the other states will just follow.
Would these people demonstrate if it were the law to check the identification of drug dealers or other criminals? Of course not, "illegally aliens" are criminals regardless of what country they come from. The Arizona law should become a model for all the states because the Federal government has ignored the problem for to long. Sheriff Arpaio and his department should be thanked for their efforts in getting criminals out of Arizona.
You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal"
Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California ..
Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
Ready? Now pay attention...
Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 Per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or
$31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for His family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now Has $24,031.00.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has
$31,200.00.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or Welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per Year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps And welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.
Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal Still has $ 31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal Now has $7,231.00.
Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, Etc.
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities,
Gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after Work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get A government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after School ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, But Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
FAIR OR NOT FAIR...??? You tell me...
I was going to endorse the new law for my reasons, but I everyone who posted ahead of me, has already said it for me!!! Good going!
I wonder how many of these SEIU/Culinary union thugs read the bill? The more anti Arizona demonstrations that happen the more support the bill will get in Nevada. We spend around 600 million tax dollars on illegal alien services each year. We have almost a 2 billion dollar deficit in our state. The discussion should be on the cost and impact of illegal aliens in Nevada and not on what Sheriff Arpaio and Arizona do.
Yeah it looks like the crowd was not even worth the news coverage..Better yet, I bet Joe invited these morons to come to Phoenix and he will be glad to deal with them...Go home and build and live in your own country.
ALL states should pass similiar laws. For far too long the Fed Govt has done little or NOTHING to close the borders. If you want to come here you do so LEGALLY and you learn ENGLISH. SEIU needs to BUTT out. Comparing this law with RACSIM or RACIAL PROFILING or German Concentration camps is absurd to say the least. And companies that hire illegals should be fined. NEVADA hopefully will soon pass a law too regardless of Harry Reid.
I lived in the Phoenix Arizona area for 20 years until recently. I support Arizona 100% plus! I am not alone. Millions of Americans across the United States also support this law and the protection of our borders. Now tell me, why is it that the press only shows the illegals protesting and never people in favor of the Arizona law? And...when the press does, on rare occasions, show citizens in favor of the law, we are depicted in a negative way? Total propaganda! Have you ever wondered why the illegals always have time to protest and demands rights that they are not entitled to? Because they are not at work! They have plenty of time on their hands. I personally, am quite tired of working and having my tax dollars pay for them! Elections are coming up soon. I urge all registered voters to get out there and vote for all individuals that are running for office that support Arizona! Illegal immigration is destroying our great country from the inside out! Lets make our voices, the citizens of this country, be heard! Oh, and by the way, You Go Sheriff Joe! We need more people like you!
FedupWithThis has very good point. The less illigal workers are in the country, the more jobs available for the unemployed citizens.
OH and another thing, I actually think they are ruining our American work ethic. Who used to do these jobs, it was teenagers and people just starting out, they build character and teach what real life is about. Now our teenagers sit at home and smoke weed from Mexico.
If you cross the north Korean boarder illegally you get 12yrs hard labor.If you cross the Iranian boarder illeagally you get detained indefinitely.Cross the Afghan boarder illegally you get shot.Cross the Saudi boarder illegally you will be jailed.Cross the Chinese boarder illegally you will never be heard from again.Cross the Venezuelan boarder you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.Cross the Cuban boarder illegally you will be thrown in prison to rot.However you cross the U.S. boarder illegally you get a job a drivers license to have babies for free on legal Americans tax dollars free health and dental clinics food stamps underground labor without taxes.Thank you Arizona for being the first to step up and do something about it.It's about time.
I feel Aprao is a hero. These illegals have taken us Americans as for a country that they can walk all over. Enough is enough and the AZ law is something that needed to be done. I have a question, If Americans went to Mexico expecting free health care, free food and a place to live do you think we'd get it? Ummm no we wouldnt. We would get laughed at. These illegals have a lot of guts coming to US and demanding the same rights as citizens get.
The article states that under the new Arizona law that being here illegally is a crime........NO KIDDING!!! What part of illegal do these people not understand! Yelling at the sheriff to get out, all illegals need to get out! Come back when you want to do it the legal and right way just like everyone else has done before you, you are not entitled to be here!
nevada needs the same law as az. and we need it soon, before hundreds of illegals from az move to nv. chad christensen is trying to get enough signatures of registered voters to get a law like az's up for the next vote. go to his web site and sign up. if we the people of nevada dislike living and working side by side with illegals than we need to be heard - vote - get a law passed in nevada that would stop employers from hiring illegals and then those who are legal can get back to work. we need to clean up our streets. vegas was once a good place to live, not so much anymore. i for one don't like seeing people conduct business on our streets, our small business owners who are trying to do it the right way are going out of business - need a car wash? there are plenty of legit car wash businesses in town, but why is belrose street now used for unlicensed car washing? thats a city street and it's lined with people waving you down to get your car washed - and i bet they don't pay any taxes on the money they make. so while they get to use our city streets free of charge, the ones who pay taxes, pay for licenses and pay rent on buildings/property for their business are going out of business. that's not right and the city should not permit it. and how about those who sell fruit on the corners, no health inspections there, how safe is the fruit? and i don't want to buy blankets or sleeping bags in the parking lot of my neighborhood grocery store. when i go to star nursery i don't want to be rushed by a bunch of strangers. all these things just pull our community down. i drove down eastern the other day and thought i had left the country. i have no idea what type of businesses i passed, all the signs were in spanish - what's that all about. if someone comes to america they should want to be part of it, speak the language - remember this is a melting pot, melt, speak english, pay taxes, take care of your neighborhoods and make sure your children go to school and graduate. hispanic drop out rate is way to high - and while your at it, learn to respect the laws of the land your living in. if you don't want to abide by the laws then just go back to mexico where you have no laws - oh except for very harsh immigration laws. go home and try to do something to change mexico, stop trying to change the us of a. the only thing we americans want done with immigration laws is the enforcement of the ones we already have.
ILLEGALS GO HOME!! We dont want you in our country.
People are supporting this bill on face value, and that is scary. Ive heard to arguments in defense of this bill. Now hear me out because I am all about, protecting our country and our borders.
Amendment IV
Ratified December 15, 1791
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable search and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Article 8 SB 1070
FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS
UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,
WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON.
That sentence clearly states that reasonable suspicion of a person being unlawfully present in the US is probable cause FOR Lawful contact. That is a clear violation of the IV amendment. That says I have a right to be secure in my person.
Another argument I hear is it is identical to the federal law already on the books, yet those that utilize this argument still criticize congress. Let me explain. If you like this law and proclaim it to be the same as the federal law, then you should be happy with congress, because their job is to make laws, not enforce them, if you want to criticize a branch of govt, point the finger at the judicial. I am tired of people taking things at face value. Listen this law takes one sentence and gives police the power to make probable cause, the way someone looks....Why then did the Arizona State Legislature take the time to write 347 lines to protect due process for employers that hire illegals?
Obviously this was a political stunt used in an attempt to try to win votes, especially in the highly contested Governors seat, who is facing a challenge from her own party. Now in America if you want legislation written that has the potential to undermine the constitution as a re election stunt, I think you really need to question your motives and take a long look in the mirror.
Never forget that there were people who were thrown in furnaces for how they looked, and no I am not comparing AZ to Nazi Germany, but this law, the way it is written, is clearly a step that favors that direction.
Instead of going after the people that are trying to help themselves and their family, why not go after the buisnesses that employ them? Why not make it so upon receiving welfare you have to have your immigration status checked? That way the average citizens rights are not potentially violated.
Why is it that Liberals don't like Sheriff Joe?
Because Liberals selectively apply the law based on their political beliefs...
I am for immigration reform. No more legal immigration. No more immigrants. No more citizenship if you are "born" in america by illegal immigrants. No more.
Give the statute of liberty to; anyone who wants immigrants.
Times have changed, this country no longer has land to homestead, we have too many people and do not want legal immigrants or illegals that includes anchor babies!
lectrocuda... If you would read a little more of the bill, Arizona's SB-1070 does contain some pretty harsh provision for those businesses who knowingly hire illegal aliens..
Hey' FedUpWithThis: That was a very good post.
THANK YOU...
Remember that Reid wants tens of millions of illegals plus all their family members to be legalized. Vote that piece of scum out! He is not looking out for your family's best interest only that of illegals. Take back America and restore it to greatness. We can not become another Greece.
I hope that Nevada follows Arizona's lead!
Its time to close our boarder then all illegals go back to your own country and work hard be prosperous.
Start your own factorys and business.Clean up your country from drug,thugs and goverment.
I do not like the word RACIST that went out in the 60s,(GROW UP)it sounds like my 5 year old wants a toy and I say NO.
Americans are not racist and if we are why are you here.I would not live in a place if I was not wanted.
American are trying to protect our boarder from people trying to kill us and you would do the same.
LOL
Go to Mexico and demand what these illegals demand and you will see why these illegals left Mexico. Go to the southern Mexican border and see the way Mexico treats their illegals and you will get an eyeful.
Talk to my friends from the Philippines who waited their time in line and did it legally. It is not fair to them when they did it the right way and not rush to the head of the line. And these friends of mine speak better English than most Americans and don't need to dial one two or three for someone to speak Filipino for them.
Go to any Home Depot and get rushed by day labors wanting work. Try to find a job in the construction trade and try to compete with someone willing to work for half of what the prevailing wage is. These workers usually are paid under the table and don't pay taxes.
Talk to any county hospital and try to get service. You wait behind illegals who do not pay. Which mean us tax payers foot the bill.
NO, NO, NO, Sheriff Joe Is doing a good job and I wish Nevada had the backbone to do what is right and follow Arizona's lead.
Until the politicians in Washington, uphold a serious commitment to building the--REAL--fence(s), and not half-hearted attempt in misleading the American public.There will not be any form of immigration reform, if anti-amnesty organizations can stop its course? That first and foremost should be the THE REAL BORDER FENCE(S).That's plural as two fences? Beyond the gap of a thousand yards a second chain-link fence, used typically in the prison system topped with razor wire for the whole 2000 miles. Tracks between fences for the use of the border patrol and the the ABSENT ARMED NATIONAL GUARD. Instead the politicians who started the construction of the fence lied. They drafted the Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations bill, that specifically eliminated the main funding mandate of the Secure Fence Act of 2006 as a two layer fence. We spend 43 cents in every dollar fighting obscene wars in foreign countries, but the American people remain unprotected. Arizona has been under a relentless attack. Overrun with criminals of every category and uncountable illegal alien swarms. The state like many others are sliding towards bankruptcy because of the liberal doctrine of spreading Federal and state welfare to everybody. The feds hardly ever compensate states for money bled-off by foreign national entitlements as seen in the downward financial spiral of California.
The real fence can be viewed in San Diego, covering just 50 miles and it has been successful in controlling both illegal immigrants and criminal activity. Our legislators have completely ignored our constitution that states, " The United States shall protect each of the states from invasion," according to Article IV, Section 4. THAT IS THE TEXT OF THE US CONSTITUTION. And if 20 to 30 million illegal aliens occupying our soil, doesn't constitute an invasion--then pray tell me what does?Which instead the morons in the Capitol, have been intimidated by the President South of the border. Remember that those politicians in Washington and state level, along with Governors, Mayors and officials must be driven out of office, beginning with pro-amnesty Sen.Reid in the June primary election. Call your Representative at 202-224-3121 and demand their support of the state of Arizona or see the door in coming elections.
Ok they removed my comment because I shortened the word Hispanic. I am sorry and did not mean it as derogatory. Let's see if it gets removed again?:
"I should be a hero," Arpaio said. "They should be thanking me."
Thank you Joe Arpaio for doing the right thing. You got these Hispanics running crazy mad, they are worried. Watch out for riots next. Racial profiling, the color of your skin, well the government does this everyday, it's called Affirmative Action, time to eliminate it! Just look at the census questioner, the government wants to know all about your race skin color. What happened to America where it's not supposed to matter?
batman
I get censored for sni*ger..
And that makes me s*igger...
I wonder why the "liberals" are called "liberals when they are so whacked out about words? I am the "Andrew Jackson" reform the bank conservative arguing with "liberals" who have never heard of Jackson..who practically invented the Democrat Party and was the first populist President..
I must have turned conservative right when the left became the new pinchmouth uptite one note band... who are obsessed with the color of skin..People who obsess about race used to be called "racist."
I guess I went so far to the left..I am now right..We seem to have swapped ends there somewhere..
We need the same AZ law here in Nevada.
Joe is one of the few people that are willing to stand up for the common good of Americans.
That's what we need is some back bone go Joe.
I hope that Nevada follows Arizona's lead!
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Yeah, that won't happen. Gibbers isn't even for an Arizona type law. We have enough financial problems in this state without losing convention business and other forms of tourism income. People from all over the world, not to mention the nation, come to our casinos. They don't want to have to worry about being racially profiled.
We the people of the United States. elctrocuda, nowhere in our constitution does it say, illegal entrance for monetary gain from the govt of the United States without legal citizenship grants you automatic american constitutional rights, and an entitlement to all the benifits legal citizens recieve. Reasonable suspicion should suffice just fine.Give 'em heck Joe. I am also curious how illegals boycoting Arizona is a problem? I wish they would boycot Nevada too!! Nevada needs a gov. with a spine.
There are quite a few white people who support the illegals and are marching in support. Priests, ministers, and high school and college youths. How many of those priests and ministers would be marching and convincing their flocks to march with them if the church elders endorsed a policy to use illegal ministers and priests thus replacing them? None. Legalization or "reform" would no doubt bring some type of affirmative action for illegals. So would all those kiddies now marching be out there when their slot at college was given to an illegal or anchor baby with lower grades and acheivements at cheap or free rates? Don't think so. If those white kids do graduate college are they going to be happy when they lose out on a plum job so some employer can meet his affirmative action quotas? Don't think so. It's fine to march and protest when the working stiffs get the shaft, but if it happned to them the tune will quickly change.
To all you ignorant bleeders. Would you like it if leaders from Iran, Venezuala, Cuba, and the like brought hundreds of thousands of their supporters to the USA and have them march in the streets telling you, a USA citizen, what to do? Spitting on your flag, calling you racist and other insults, and taking your job away from you causing the loss of your food and shelter. Demanding rights they have no claim to while taking away yours. You wouldn't like it one bit. Yet you allow illegals and their supports to do those things and support them for it. Quit living in that fantasy world where half baked intellectual ideas trump reality.
Sandy99 is fear mongering again. She is making something out of nothing. How many times must it be said that it is illegal for a law enforcement officer to pull over anyone to ask them about their citizenship and there must be probable cause before you can be stopped...
Sandy99 is trying to scare people about racial profiling when there is nothing to be afraid of if you are not an illegal alien...
Why do Protesters of AZ-SB1070 continually reference WWII, Nazi Germany and The Final Solution Council as their primary fuel for comparison? >> The Jews were Organized ( into the slums ), Categorized ( Men, Women, Children & the Handicapped ) and Separated ( forced labor camps, industrial workers, Medical Research, Gas Chambers / Most were buried ALIVE in MASS Graves because the Nazi's didn't want to waste bullets ). Untold MILLIONS were EXTERMINATED in Europe and abroad by Germany's then Nazi Party >> So,... -how is the Holocaust a parallel comparison to AZ-SB1070,... again?!!!
guardrail says:
"If you cross the north Korean boarder illegally you get 12yrs hard labor.If you cross the Iranian boarder illeagally you get detained indefinitely.Cross the Afghan boarder illegally you get shot.Cross the Saudi boarder illegally you will be jailed.Cross the Chinese boarder illegally you will never be heard from again.Cross the Venezuelan boarder you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed.Cross the Cuban boarder illegally you will be thrown in prison to rot."
********* ***********
He goes on to recommend America should emulate North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, China, Venezuela and Cuba.
guardrail's selection of societies to model our own on says a whole lot about his value system. Sure hope he stays out of politics.
Stan,
Please cross into Mexico illegally and see what happens...
And don't forget to let us know how well that worked out for you, when and if you ever get out of a Mexican prison...
I said this once before. On your federal income tax form, there needs to be 2 extra boxes to check. 1)If you support illegal immigration check here.2)If you support universal healthcare check here. Then 75% of your return gets taken to subsidize those projects. I just wonder how many liberals would actually check those boxes, yet support those projects. They only like it if everybody else pays for it.
I didn't know illegals could demand any of our elected officials to "get out". they aren't citizens, they can't vote, legally that is.I think its pretty arrogant to be in a country illegally and then demand rights that legal citizens pay for. I wonder if we could get away with that kind of arrogance in another country.
During the protest against Arizonian Sheriff Joseph Arpaio's attendance in Las Vegas Sara Elsing, 50, was screaming and demanding that Arpaio leave and go to Germany where she assumed his beliefs would be valued at concentration camps. Her action took place on 7 May, the 65th anniversary of the day the Nazis finally surrendered to the Allied Forces. Somebody should inform Ms Elsing that since then there are no more concentration camps in that country and democracy was restored.
Eric de Bear, Royal Palm Beach, Florida.
Good job there, Mr. Eric De Bear...
I'm so glad to read all these posts,and see that LV is in support of AZ...I read these papers daily, and lived in Vegas for 5 yrs..when we left in 04" it was just starting (illegals taking over the city) that city could have survived this awful recession if there were not all these illegals and way too many casinos. It would have weathered the storm nicely. I can't wait to come back, and we were even thinking of buying again..but, not with things the way they are now..I feel for all you wonderful Las Vegans..and hope that you all pull together to vote out Reid..that is sooooo important for not only Nevada but the rest of the country. Get someone who will actually think of the citizens and not the special interests..we are counting on you. We moved from there back to Michigan (just think about that!!!lol) so I truly know how it goes a far as the economy going to crap in a state that promotes just one thing (auto's)..we are pretty much done here in Michigan..but Vegas, CAN come back..Stick to your guns..you can do this, its that kind of town, but you have to get rid of all the garbage, and you know what I mean...Good luck to you all ...
what's wrong, liberals? you upset that your "white guilt" agenda has run its course?
they have no arguement. the only thing they can argue about is, your ancestors were immigrants. But they forget to differentiate between legal and illegal,privileged and entitlement,asset or liability.For them, its all about the vote.
Wow, never would have guessed so many conservative bigots read the LVS. I say lets profile and get the Illegal whites out. They're gonna be a minority in a tad bit. Give the US back to the Native Indians!!
interesting comment. calls conservative bigots, and then says lets profile white illegals. Is this called liberal intelect? I say,anyone who doesn't speak english is under reasonable suspicion of being illegally in this country and needs to get asked for their papers.If they want american rights,speak english,get a job,and get legal, no matter what country they're from. It just so happens mexicans are the ones crossing in droves, having kids here for the entitlement, costing americans billions of dollars every year.