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twitterCulinary pushing hard, but inside lines
Experts say pressure is one thing, threats another
Fri, Jan 18, 2008 (2 a.m.)
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As the Culinary Union worked feverishly this week to persuade its members to support Barack Obama, a prickly question arose: What is the difference between tough political tactics and unethical, or illegal, intimidation?
Some Culinary members say they have felt intimidated by the pushy approach of some organizers.
But labor experts say a vigorous back-and-forth is the norm as unions work to spread the word of an endorsement -- and the tactics don’t cross the legal line of voter intimidation unless workers are threatened.
None of the Culinary members interviewed by the Sun claimed to have been threatened by union activists gathering pledge cards for Obama. Some, however, were told they would have to caucus for Obama, period.
If so, it raises the question of where a union draws the line between hard-nosed politicking and intimidation.
“One person’s intimidation is another person’s persuasion,” said Nelson Lichtenstein, a labor historian at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
Labor experts said that although member-on-member intimidation prevailed a half-century ago, it’s exceedingly rare today, especially in the context of a caucus, in which voters must show up at a particular place and time and publicly declare their support for a candidate. In other words, caucusgoers need to be highly motivated to turn out. Intimidating the voter pool would be counterproductive.
“That would be stupid,” said Peter Francia, a political scientist at Eastern Carolina University who has studied labor unions. “It would alienate the people you need to mobilize your political muscle.”
Organizers cross the legal line, experts said, when they threaten a worker’s union status or job security.
“Those sorts of practices, with the very exceptional outlier, are not common,” said Robert Bruno, professor of labor and industrial relations at the University of Illinois. “It would be deeply offensive to the labor movement if they were being practiced in such a high-profile event.”
Having endorsed Obama just last week, 10 days before the Nevada caucus, organizers are working overtime and making the hard sell. Some members -- including ones identified to the Sun by the Clinton campaign -- find the approach off-putting.
Take, for instance, the case of Ruben Beltran, a Culinary member and Clinton volunteer who helps set up conventions at Mandalay Bay.
Union representatives, he said, are telling employees they must caucus for Obama on Saturday, making it sound more like a demand than a suggestion. Beltran said workers feel intimidated because the union holds sway over their jobs.
“It’s intimidation because the workers are not knowledgeable,” he said. “They don’t know their rights.”
Beltran told the Sun he was not threatened, though, and plans to back Clinton.
Then there’s Maria Garcia, who works in the housekeeping department at Wynn Las Vegas.
Her complaint: A union rep removed a pile of Clinton fliers from the cafeteria and asked workers where they came from.
She said many members support Clinton and would be following their conscience Saturday.
Most troubling is the case of Sylvia Antuna, a cook at Paris Las Vegas, who said she was filling out a voter registration form in the employee cafeteria when two union reps approached her about Obama. When she told them she wasn’t sure about caucusing for him, one rep took her registration form, telling her that she couldn’t participate Saturday if she wasn’t supporting Obama. (Antuna is undecided.)
Marie Angers, a fellow cook, and her son, Matt DeFalco, a kitchen runner, said they witnessed the incident and engaged the organizers in a heated discussion. Angers is a Clinton backer.
Both said they saw one organizer hand Antuna an Obama pledge card, telling her she had to sign it to participate in the caucus.
In an interview, Antuna said she didn’t recall the pledge card, but said the incident was upsetting. On reflection, she said the organizers spoke broken English, adding that the incident could have been a misunderstanding.
Still, deceiving members about election rules is unethical, said Taylor Dark, a professor of labor and politics at California State University, Los Angeles.
“I would expect the union to be putting a lot of emotional and psychological pressure on members. That’s what unions do,” Dark said. “Passions are running high. But just because someone says they feel intimidated, it’s not an indication that they are being intimidated in a truly unethical fashion.”
Asked Thursday about allegations of voter intimidation, D. Taylor, secretary-treasurer of the Culinary Union, said members were having “vigorous debate” throughout Las Vegas.
Sun reporters Charlotte Hsu, David McGrath Schwartz and Timothy Pratt contributed to this report.
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Obama'08!
The CWU, needs to realize that they don't run things in Nevada. A union worker should and WILL vote for Clinton if they want to. If other CWU members have a problem with that, they best keep it to themselves. I have made it clear I am supporting Clinton. If a CWU official told me otherwise, that official would be told simply to "shut up, and mind thier own buisness". If they still don't get the message, a good smack in the face should do the trick. Hillary will win NV, Obama will lose. Then Obama and his CWU bussies can go in the corner, cry, and suck each others thumbs.
CLINTON 08.
Any individual union member should vote for whoever they want to, whether it's Obama (my guy), or not.
The problem is that the Clinton campaign, by backing and defending the Teachers Union lawsuit, which was filed by Clinton supporters, that was drawn up two days after the Culinary endorsed Obama, even though they'd AGREED on it in May of LAST YEAR...was an obvious, and despicable political move to SUPPRESS VOTERS.
If you want to vote for someone who will TAKE AWAY YOUR VOTE because it help them win power, vote for Clinton - the only candidate who's campaign is entirely funded by Pharmaceutical companies, energy companies and their lobbyists - who she promises FAVORS to if she's elected - which come out of OUR POCKETS.
We are tired of the Bush/Clinton dynasty.
This is our chance to cut that bloody, broken limb from our country once and for all.
Ask Clinton sometime about Whitewater.
And then remember that She voted for this war.
She voted for the Patriot Act - TWICE.
Sh was a Republican. She still is.
Please. Do not fall for it.
OBAMA '08
Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.
"There's a wall around Washington and we need to take it down. The American people are on the outside. And on the other side, on the inside, are the powerful, the well-connected and the very wealthy.That wall didn't build itself or appear overnight. For decades, politicians without convictions and powerful interests gathered their bricks and their stones and their mortar, and they went to work. They went to work to protect their interests, to block the voice of the American people, and to stop our country's progress. They went to work to protect, defend, and maintain the status quo.
"You have a choice in this election. You have to decide what kind of person you want as your next president. Do you want someone who is going to pretend that wall around Washington isn't there, or defend the people who helped build it? Or do you want someone who is going to lead with conviction and tell you the truth, and have a little backbone? Do you want someone who is going to hope that the people who spent millions of dollars and decades building that wall, and have billions more invested in keeping it up, are going to be willing to compromise, to take it down voluntarily? Or do you want someone who is going to stand up to those people and fight for your interests, when the chips are down, when your backs are against the wall, every single day?
"We have a choice in this election. We can keep trying to shout over that wall. We can keep trying to knock out a chink here and there, to punch little holes in it and hope our voices get through. We can settle for baby steps, half-measures and incremental change, and try to inch our way over that wall and toward a better future. Or we can be bold and knock it down. …
-John Edwards, DNC Fall Meeting
Knock Down That Wall! Don't vote the status quo and vote in another corporate Democrat.
Make a statement tomorrow and caucus for John Edwards.
"Tactics don't cross the line unless workers are threatened"???
I'm sorry, paid union organizers lieing to workers crosses the line!
Only ensuring that workers who support your candidate get the time off is crossing the line!
The Culinary has crossed the line repeatedly. The fact that these voting sites were set up in work places dominated by one union crosses the line and is unprecidented.
I can't believe some union official has the gaul to say that unless workers are threatened, no one has crossed the line.
There are lots of other ways to intimidate and ensure that only Obama supporters get to the polls, which is exactly what the Culinary is doing.
Rather that intimidate members into voting for Obama, organizers should be stressing how Obama would be the candidate who could win over the moderates and independents needed to defeat a Republican in November. Hillary would mobilize Republican voters and make it very difficult for her to defeat McCain, Huckabee, or Romney.
Obama is much more progressive than Clinton, and yet he still appeals to many more Independents and Republicans than Clinton. If we want to get things done in DC, the right way, Obama is the one who has a history of creating the working majority necessary to accomplish it -- be it social security, medicare, a meaningful energy policy, enhanced natl security to real health care and a vibrant economy. Clinton's campaign continues to spread ridiculous and misleading information about Obama, which is just a signal that the old guard is threatened and is fighting for the position it feels entitled to. Long time loyalties to the family from Arkansas should give way to a true movement of change that isn't based on partisan politics. Vote your conscience. Vote Obama.
Why Hillary is more electable than any other democrat?
Watch the interview with the African-American Sen. Charles Rengel at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
Full address:
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/vi...
NEW YORK OBSERVER (from last May)
"For the Clintons, an Editor and a Friend
by Jason Horowitz
May. 1st, 2007, 12:06 pm
It wasn’t until after Hillary Clinton’s most recent visit to Nevada this Sunday that I noticed this, but as one of her donors based there told me, she was the beneficiary of a fund-raiser hosted for her at the local Four Seasons a month ago by two supporters named Brian and Myra Greenspun.
Brian Greenspun is the editor of the Las Vegas Sun, one of the city's two daily newspapers.
The paper disclosed its editor's political activity in an April 17 blog post that said that the Greenspun family, "which publishes the Las Vegas Sun, donated a combined $31,400 this year to the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton." (Greenspun’s official title is “President and Editor.”)
Senators Barack Obama and Chris Dodd also received donations from the family, but, according to the paper, "Sun Editor Brian Greenspun is a close friend of President Bill Clinton, the senator's husband."
Given the fact that Nevada is going to hold one of the country's earliest and potentially most influential primary contests, that seems like a pretty useful friendship for the Clintons to have."
There's white collar pressure and blue collar pressure --
The report says: "None of the Culinary members interviewed by the Sun claimed to have been threatened by union activists gathering pledge cards for Obama. Some, however, were told they would have to caucus for Obama, period."
Pick apart the words all you like, but if that's not intimidation, I don't know what is.
I wonder if all this intimidation or whatever you want to call it is going to hurt candidates. If it were me and I had not yet decided who I would vote for and I felt intimidated by a supporter of a candidate I would more than likely vote the other because no matter what it reflects on the candidate.
No matter what happens Hillary, Obama or even Edwards in Novemeber yes Edwards we have a lot more states to go through I do hope that we support the candidate of this party as all of them have said they would. There have only been 5 states that have voted and they have not determined who wins the nomination there are 45 more to go, but the mud sligging is making it look like the states holding the elections are the last states that determine who wins. The big vote will be February 5th.
Why can't we all just get along.
Did ANYONE ask Mrs. Antuna what she thought of the Clintons trying to prevent her from voting period????
Obama built up Reagan as his idea of a agent of change. Reagan more than anyone is responsible for the demise of labor unions. hE STATES THIS WHEN HE IS TRYING TO WIN OVER UNIONS IN LAS VAGAS. UNBELEIVABLE! THE ONLY THING HE CAN CHANGE WITHOUOT A WILLING CONGRESS IS HIS UNDERWEAR.
The Clinton's participate in dirty politics. Has anyone noticed that more and more it is "The Clnton's" and not just Hillary? I for one do not want to continue this Bush/Clinton dynasty. I would hate to think that the culinary workers are being strong armed instead of being educated about what is at stake in this election. Do they want real change or do they want a possible 4 more years of gridlock in the White House? Hillary is polarizing and Bill had total gridlock during his time in the White House. Please give the workers the facts!!!!! I am in Tucson and I am watching very closely what is going on in Nevada. This is the West's time. Don't blow it!
Michael
In the original story you posted about Antuna, you will see within your own story just how and through what mechanism the union will pressure members to skew the vote. Key:The union is the intercessor with the casino managers as to WHO goes to caucus.
You do show that Antuna kept maintaining that she was told she had to caucus for Obama or she wasn't going to be allowed to caucus
" When she told them she wasn't sure about caucusing for him [Obama], one rep took her registration form, indeed telling her that she couldn't participate Saturday if she wasn't supporting Obama ."
That's the crux of the issue...if you don't vote for Obama, you can't caucus. The union rep never backed off that stance in her encounter with Antuna.
Antuna trying to reregister as an independent itself does not in any way deny that Antuna stills agrees with Angers and DeFalco that the union rep still tried to coerce her. Antuna, in the Las Vegas Sun article, still maintains that the union rep said " she couldn't participate Saturday if she wasn't supporting Obama."
THE MECHAISM OF UNION CONTROL
The union may be able to determine who the casino managers let leave their shift to go caucus. The caucus takes up to 1-2 hours. Almost eveyone working there at that time frame is a member of the CWA. Not every worker can be allowed to caucus in that time frame....because the casino would just stop functioning.
So how do you actually get the time off to go caucus? Well the union intervenes with the employer, the casino, to let x number of persons to leave. It also seems the union could intervene in terms of who is allowed to go caucus.
Indeed from your original piece itself and the update it is clear just how the union is doing and in this case with Antuna backed off because it looked so bad.
"In fact, Antuna said the Culinary called her later to inform her the union had received her voter registration form, spoken with her supervisor and that she was clear to caucus during her shift on Saturday."
So indeed it does seems the union controls who get to caucus because it intercedes with the casino as to who will be allowed to leave their shift to go caucus. And in this case, cited by you yourself, they decided that tolerance for different choices was better than acting like like Tammany Hall bosses. But the very fact that they did verify her status with the casino manangers tells you exactly how the union can pressure its members. the casino wants to get along with the union, so they let the union choose who can caucus. So those who have signed pledges for Obama get to leave and those for the other 2 may not be allowed off their shift.
Let me make it clear that if the union had endorsed Hillary I think this would be happening for her...but they endorsed Obama.
Nor do I think that if the union had endorsed Hillary that you would be satisfied with the the UNION INVESTIGATING AND CLEARING ITSELF.
He did not say Reagan was a good president. He simply said that he had a great capacity to bring people together.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/relea...
actually Hillary said Reagan was one of her favorite Presidents (see link)
"But no president can do it alone. She must break recent tradition, cast cronyism aside and fill her cabinet with the best people, not only the best Democrats, but the best Republicans as well.. We’re confident she will do that. Her list of favorite presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks. As expected, Bill Clinton was also included on the aforementioned list."
Allow me to provide some light on a lot of misunderstanding here:
One, Senator Obama championed an extremely successful health care plan for Illinois children - All Kids http://www.allkids.com/, created with Rod R. Blagojevich(IL Gov.)is literally a model for a workable, affordable national health care plan. All children qualify, $40 per child for full coverage health insurance? How many of you making around $45,000 a year pay such a low premium. What health care program has Hillary created. She stated during the Nevada debate that she helped pass the CHIP, Children's Health Insurance Program, the federal program that covers millions of children in the US. She completely mislead the audience. Senator Orrin G. Hatch, a conservative Republican, along with Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat, wrote the monumental health care bill in 1997. Hillary boasted bravely of her achievement that night, but she was not in office in 1997, she was the first lady at the time, and was wrapped up in the Monica Lewinsky affair.
Two, Barack Obama has had a fantastic career, even before his political office. He was an Illinois Senator from 1996 to 2004. As a state legislator, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[33] He sponsored a law enhancing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for child care.[34] Obama also led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped.[34] The law was at first very controversial, but due to Obama's skills as a negotiator and bipartisanships, he won the support of the police. During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, he won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose president credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.-Wikipedia.
Time Magazine wrote an excellent article on Obama's political achievements - http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/...
I'm fairly shocked at the misinformation of this election cycle. I wish I could remain unbiased. But Obama's dedication to service, his consistency to fight on behalf of the interest of the American people cannot be ignored. A presidency under him would indeed be a win for the common man, and undoubtely would be a new era in Washington politics.
I'm afraid that under the Clinton's - If her current smear and suppress tactics are any indication - it would simply be more of the same Washington politics. I am voting for Obama because I beleive we do need a new direction for our country, and Obama is exactly the man that can do that.
IF YOU VOTE OBAMA, I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR NEW YUCCA MOUNTAIN NUCLEAR WASTE DUMP NEVADA. HE'S GONNA OWE SOMEONE FOR ALL THE CAMPAIGN FUNDS TO HIM. ONLY 90 MILES FROM LAS VEGAS!! WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN TO YOUR JOBS WHEN THE CASINO'S HAVE TO SHUT DOWN DUE TO "SOME RADIATION LEAKAGE"???? NO CASINO, NO JOB, NO FOOD, NO CAR, NO NOTHING! VOTE HILLARY CLINTON SATURDAY, JAN. 19TH! SHE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO HAS CONSISTENTLY VOTED "NO" TO YUCCA MOUNTAIN BEING USED AS A NUCLEAR WASTE DUMP! STAND UP AND BE COUNTED! LAS VEGAS IS WHERE YOU LIVE AND WORK. PROTECT YOUR LIFE AND LIFESTYLE! VOTE HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!
Caucus for Barack Obama... do it for Nevada and do it for the rest of the country.
We do not have a monarchy system of government. Why should 2 families continue to rule us? No Bushes, No Clintons in 08. I am tired of both families, we need a break from their stranglehold on our government and our political system. Americans must reject the Bushes and the Clintons this year. We have over 350 million people in this country, I am sure we can find other leaders. Anyone but Hillary - Bloomberg, Obama, Edwards, McCain.
The Union Leaders have been well schooled in the art of intimidation for many years. There are different forms of intimidation and they know them all.
If anyone doesn't think members have been subjected to intimidation then I have some of that proverbial swamp land I'd like to sell you.
Hillary Clinton will say anything to get a vote. I'm listening to her lie to a Reno crowd about how she would destroy the NoChild Left Behind Act. The crowd applauded on cue, she winked and moved on to the next lie. Dec 18 2001 she was pleased to vote yes on the No Child Left Behind Act, but now she's against it. She voted for the war inIraq, but now she's against it, she voted for the Bankruptcy Bill that is causing many to have their homes foreclosed on, but now she has a plan to fix it. I have a better plan. I plan to vote for Obama because he has demonstrated spuerior judgement at crucial times.
Obama/Edwards 08!!!!
Obama's second largest campaign contributer is Exelon Corp, the largest nuclear energy company in America, so much for the environment! We already have a President and Vice President tied to big energy screwing us and endangering our environment, we don't need another one!
Obama and his wife are both quite obviously a very materialistic pair, as evidenced by their lush lifestyle. Bill Clinton is right! Obama is the Establishment Candidate, just look at his 'health care plan' it only covers those who can afford it!
We already have a President we are trying to be rid of giving all our money away to foreigners, we don't need another one.
We already have a President we are trying to be rid of that bases his judgments on what "God tells him to do" and that helped cause Bush's Iraq war!! we don't need another one.
We already have a President we are trying to be rid of who refuses to hold people accountable who screw up when they work for him, we certainly don't need another one. Hillary on the other hand quickly fired several of her people when they stepped out of line, she does not mess around or cover people who step out.
Obama uses the "roll technique" in speeches used by preachers to brain wash their followers into believing anything they tell them! Cult leaders use this technique to brainwash their followers into "believing" too, beware!
Obama is very arrogant talking down to Hillary in his blatant disrespect for her being a woman, 15 years Obama's senior and First Lady for 8 years, how egotistical and arrogant!
Obama is disrespectful along with his snotty, clueless followers to Bill Clinton too thumbing their noses at Bill's incredible legacy and all the great things he has done for America and poor people all over the world.
Hillary is a great lady and ready to lead on day one, she already knows exactly what to do! and we need change NOW.
Hillary All the Way!!!
OBAMA DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE OUR PRESIDENT
Obama was AWOL from his Senate seat and did not vote a record 130 times!!! when it came time to '"change" America, some "agent for change" Obama is!
In Illinois Obama fixed his wife's salary doubling it to $365,000.00 a year while he was doing nothing for the people of Illinois.
Obama's supporters are rude, vicious people from what we have encountered steadily, obviously not deserving of their candidate winning anything let alone the White House.
Obama encourages his supporter's ill behavior like he did with his smear job "stand up" routine attack on Hillary at a high school yesterday. Why not ask Hillary those questions instead of a bunch of high school kids coward?
Obama has not paid his dues like Hillary has.
Obama's health care plan leaves millions of Americans out in the cold!!
Obama and his campaign workers constantly use bait and switch attacks on their fellow Democrats. Being sneaky and dishonest are hardly traits we need all over again for 4 - 8 more years like we've suffered through with Bush.
After Obama slanders Hillary he plays innocent and becomes Mr. Nice guy, and it's "let's all have a truce" when he was the one who instigated the whole thing! never mind a truce, how about an apology Mr. Arrogant!?
Obama has no experience compared to Hillary, only a Jr. Senator 2 short years to Hillary's 7 years, including her re-election.
Obama stooped to playing a false race card effectively dividing the Democrats, pitting Democrat against Democrat and Black against White, how does Obama expect to unite the whole country when his false race accusations have split his OWN party? Hillary was simply making a point that it takes team work between leaders like MLK and FDR to get work done, and she is right! because she knows from her experience how it's done! MLK Jr. even said "Hillary didn't mean anything against his father"
Obama is too young and inexperienced to be President, JFK had 14 years in the Congress and Senate before he ran, and Obama is no JFK, how arrogant a comparison is that?
Obama steals lines from MLK and JFK for his speeches in an attempt to dupe his zombie youth, clone army into thinking he is as great as MLK and JFK. Hey Obama, here's a clue! accomplish something first like MLK and JFK did! and be original, "I have a dream" ?? get your OWN line!
Obama is a "dreamer" Hillary is a "doer"
Voting for Obama just because he says he "has a dream" is like voting for Bush because you can "sit and have a beer with him"
Hillary said herself yesterday in fact..
"I want to get back to where we were before President Bush became president, when the budget was balanced and the economy was running a surplus"
and in regards to Obama, Hillary said..
"My leading opponent the other day said he thought Republicans had the better ideas for the last 10 to 15 years," she said. "That's not how I remember the last 10 to 15 years.."
the choice is yours Nevada..
OBAMA'S RECORD ON YUCCA:
On April 18, 2002, the Illinois State Senate passed SR342 urging the U.S. Congress to support Bush on Yucca:
Illinois State Senate Resolution 342 "urges Congress to sustain President Bush's affirmative decision on Yucca Mountain's suitability as a permanent federal repository for high-level radioactive materials." [S.R. 342, 4/18/02]
Sen. Obama had the opportunity to speak out against the resolution but remained silent. From the State Senate transcript:
"Is there any discussion? Is there any discussion? If not, Senator Rauschenberger moves for the adoption of Senate Resolution 342. Those in favor say Aye. Opposed, Nay. The Ayes have it and the resolution was adopted." [Pg. 26, Illinois senate transcript, 4/18/02]
In contrast, when a similar resolution came before the U.S. Senate in July 2002, Hillary voted against the resolution and issued a press release underscoring her opposition.
I wonder who "HillaryNow" supports?
Why the hate for Obama? Are you a true Democrat?
It is amazing the level to which Hillary supporters, including Bill Clinton, have lashed out against Obama, simply because he threatens their "entitlement" to the nomination. The Clinton distortions on Obama are way out of bounds.
Obama's experience is not in Washington DC = true. We have not seen Obama on TV since the early 1990s = true. Is that good or bad? Make up your own mind.
Culinary Union Members and ALL PEOPLE that think they will vote for Obama read this article in today's Illinois Sun Times.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/ob...
Obama is NOW officially linked to the Tony Rezko Corruption/Fraud charge indictment scandal.
This is the END - I repeat the END of the Obama campaign.
He's finished because it is now official that he has lied about his involvement.
He is a corrupt Illinois politician.
I support the only true blue Democrat in this race that is really for the American People! The one candidate that will make some serious changes on day one! Hillary Rodham Clinton
but au contraire! we really need to ask the question - "Who is Obama really for?"
- Obama supports the Republican Reagan doctrine - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/17/...
- Obama said recently that "I think it's fair to say the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10, 15 years" So Democrats have had no ideas in the last 10 - 15 years? What!? Some Democrat this guy is! Obama is just using the Democrats as a stepping stone to further his own career and personal agenda, quite obvious! So what Obama is saying then is Bill Clinton was a failure? 10 -15 years go was the period when Bill Clinton was President after all! and Reagan was Obama's hero?
- Obama's second largest campaign contributor is Exelon Corp. the largest provider of nuclear energy in America. You cannot get any more Republican than Exelon!
- Is it any wonder why Obama is so very disrespectful to the Clinton legacy of prosperity and success?
Doesn't sound like a true Democrat to me!
No the real question here is, Who does Obama really support?
These are not the qualities and traits of a true Democrat!
I smell traitor in fact, don't let him in people, with Republican "values" like Obama's just think of the damage he will do if we make that fatal mistake!
Hillary All the Way.
You people are FOOLS! Hillary Clinton has also stated that Ronald Reagan is one of her favorite presidents! HA! You people don't even bother to check the facts. You just listen to whatever! Get an education for Christ sake!!!! Can you not read for yourselves??? Hillary supports Reagan! It's been on the news today. It's on the internet. It's on her own damn site! READ!!!!!
THEY USE SCARE TACTICS IN IOWA AGAINST STUDENTS...
THEY USE RACE CARD AGAINST BLACKS IN SOUTH CAROLINA...
THEY USE SMEAR TACTICS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ABOUT DRUGS AND ABORTION...
THEY USE LAWSUITS IN NEVADA AGAINST HISPANICS...
THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR POWER!!!!WELCOME TO THE CLINTONS WORLD!!!
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For those of you who still have not heard:
There is a WONDERFUL and INSPIRING music video on Youtube.com entitled "Obama Portrait Music Video by Bjarne O."
You can use the free downloaded high-quality stereo version from the composer's website in DVD form to show at house parties and fundraisers. Even people who knew nothing at all about Obama have been moved: either a thrilling introduction, or further inspiration for those of us who already know and fight for Obama.
The music soundtrack, which incorporates excerpts from the famous 2004 speech, can also be downloaded separately in high-quality.
So please, SPREAD THE WORD!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mCPwbozpIzM
YES WE CAN
Anne
HILLARY WINS! HILLARY WINS!
NOW THE OBAMA PEOPLE WILL HELP HER IN THE GE, RIGHT.
HILLARY ALL THE WAY!!!
wooo hooo! we did it!
We Love You Hillary! :D
The CWU turnout strength has always been largely over estimated. They are with out a doubt the largest union in the state but their numbers get marginalized when it comes to registered voters because many of their members can not register. Clinton has more union members behind her nationally and in this state (including members of the CWU). The leaders of the CWU chose Obama but, at the end of the day, they could not force their members to caucus for him. The other unions who endorsed and turned out for Clinton today should be proud of themselves and the culinary union should listen closer to their members. Maybe even conduct a democratic vote.