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Thursday, Sept. 16, 2010 | 8:06 p.m.
Erik Scott's Attorney
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- Attorney in Erik Scott case sends letter to judge over evidence (9-16-2010)
- Erik Scott’s family asks to view evidence before inquest (9-9-2010)
- Inquest into police shooting to be broadcast on cable TV (9-7-2010)
- Inquest set for Sept. 22 in police Costco shooting (8-12-2010)
- Metro mails Costco customers to find witnesses in police shooting (8-18-2010)
- Candlelight vigil held in memory of man killed by Metro Police (8-11-2010)
- Planning for a situation like recent Costco shooting not easy for police (7-19-2010)
- Man killed by police in Costco shooting honored at memorial (7-17-2010)
- Metro IDs officers in fatal shooting at Summerlin Costco (7-12-2010)
- Officers fatally shoot armed man at Summerlin Costco (7-10-10)
Attorney Ross Goodman’s request for the family of Erik Scott, killed by Metro Police in July, to have access to evidence prior to a coroner’s inquest on Wednesday has been denied by a Clark County judge.
Joe Tommasino, staff attorney for Clark County courts, wrote on behalf of Judge Tony Abbatangelo that county code does not “contain any language that would enable inspection of evidence before the time of the inquest.”
In his original motion, Goodman argued that the code gives Abbatangelo the general authority to “insure a fair and just hearing” as the presiding officer over the inquest.
In response, Tommasino wrote that the judge “is only empowered to ‘conduct the inquest as he deems necessary to insure a just and fair hearing.’”
Goodman, appearing Thursday night on “Face to Face With Jon Ralston,” said it is unfair that the Scott family cannot view the evidence before the inquest. While there is nothing that “confers any broad public right of access to such records, exhibits, or other evidence,” there is also nothing that prevents the judge from allowing the family to examine it, Goodman said.
“It just goes to show you what a farce this process is,” Goodman said. “It’s only designed to clear police officers in the arena of public opinion.”
Scott was killed by police July 10 outside the Costco store in Summerlin after authorities say he pointed a gun at an officer. Some witness accounts have contradicted Metro’s version of events.
Goodman also accused Metro of attempting to distract the public by leaking information about Scott’s divorce. The real issue, Goodman said, is the whereabouts of the Costco security video.
The video, Goodman said, has been in Metro’s possession for the past two months.
“If you want to have a fair and just hearing, then what is the prejudice by having the victim’s family take a look at that evidence to inspect it for themselves?” he asked.
Where's the prejudice in viewing it at the inquest?
I'm glad to see that Goodman is filing these motions. Eventually, there will be a challenge to the inquest process and Goodman's actions will help show the inequalities of the current system. Metro has had the evidence for months, yet the deceased's attorney won't get to see the evidence until the inquest even thought the deceased's attorney is supposed to be prepared to ask questions based on the evidence at the inquest.
How are police shootings handled in other large jurisdictions? Maybe readers who have relocated to here can shed some light.
Chunky says:
Regardless of this decision or the outcome of the inquest the family and friends are going to consider the process a farce. They just need/want to blame someone else for the actions of Mr. Scott that day.
That's what Chunky thinks!
Sorry.. how are police shootings reviewed.
"It just goes to show you what a farce this process is," Goodman said. "It's only designed to clear police officers in the arena of public opinion." the outcome of the inquest is irrelevant, public opinion is already condeming metro not just for the murder but for the handeling of the hole mess. They are putting the city at risk by defending one trigger happy cop and two rookies with a deadly knee-jerk reaction in what should have been a non-news worthy incident. When someone needs help, I'd like to think that calling 911 is a good idea, not so sure anymore.
"How are police shootings handled in other large jurisdictions? Maybe readers who have relocated to here can shed some light."
very recent, officer shooting the man who called for help. he was armed and had gun in his hand on his own property
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/se...
this is all working exactly as it designed to. while everybody is running around clucking like a bunch of chickens about the inquest, the attention is off of the real issue.
why hasn't our DA's office filed charges on any of the "questionable" shootings over the last many years? where is the accountability to the public. there seems to be some sort of "shield" around LE in las vegas. the inquest isn't providing this shield it is simply validating an already corrupted system. pressure is best applied to the sheriff & DA's office.
The entire inquest process is best described as a farce, no better than a kangaroo court. Imagine a real court hearing where one side was not permitted to ask questions or cross-examine witnesses, would anyone consider that a fair trial? And why is Metro and the district attorney hiding the evidence from the family? One has to believe they have a reason, that being it doesn't support Metro's version of the shooting. Be interesting to see if the tape ever sees the light of day. For those who have faith in this joke of a process, get out your wallets as the family will next sue the county and Metro and get a huge settlement - paid for by your friendly local taxpayers. And frankly I hope they do as that may finally wake up the county to demand and force changes in the process. As long as Metro is shielded from accountability by the inquest process I predict this will happen again, and again, and again.
I feared for my life.
He made a furtive move.
He pointed a gun at me.
Make sure the camera is corrupt.
WHAT I MISSED, NEVER MIND.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aSJgcpqe...
I love how the family is trying to blame the police for Eric Scotts actions that day.
1) Not only did 1 officer feel their life/others was in danger, 3 other officers felt the same way.
2) How many angry customers does Costco deal with on a daily basis? How many times a year do they have to call the police b/c of these angry guests....i'm sure very little. The police were not the only people that felt in harms way that day.
3) The coroners inquest is probably one of the most transparent review processes that a city could have. A group of fellow citizens decides if the officers actions were justified or not, and if it should move to Criminal courts. In other cities, shootings like this are handled in a Grand Jury away from the media and public leaving everyone in the dark about what happened during a shooting. I'd much rather have something that the family/public can check out then some process that the City attorney, a judge, and 12 peers go decide.......
Although I feel for the families loss, I feel more for the officers who have to deal with having to take someones life and have the public criticize them as if they were monsters. I hope that everyone will have a better understanding after next week!
I read a article in another publication tat basically said he was high on drugs and had a violent personality, with a few arrests to back it up
Love all the conspiracy therorists on here..I digress in all actuality, no knocking or belittleing the process, how does this process actually work? Is it like a jury trial? I guess I am uninformed on the process in the courtroom on a shooting.
NYC uses an independent civilian board that not only investigates each shooting, but tracks all complaints against officers. If an officer is getting too many complaints, he is flagged for monitoring. Why not here?
Just as I said 7 days ago:
By logic_should_rule
Sept. 9, 2010
9:14 a.m.
Easy prediction: Request denied!
How fair and just is it to have one party the police/D.A. view evidence for months before a hearing and have the advantage of surprise over the opposing party ?
How fair is it to have the police/ D.A. dictate terms to the magistrate without the opposing party being able to present their own arguments.
How fair and just is it to have the police, police themselves
Why are those tapes, the videos kept so secret, do they show something that the police does not want the public to see.
Scott's family and their attorney must have access to all evidence of record or due process will not be achieved, videos and also the 911 recording to assess how dramatic were the Costco wimps in calling because they saw a man with a gun. So what ? Ever heard of the 2nd Amendment ? In addition Scott had a CCW.
I wish those trigger happy pistoleros at Metro get prosecuted criminally, the PD, Costco and the manager who made the call in addition to the stupid clerk who assumed he had seen Bin Laden.
Don't be mistaken, I love Metro, I admire Metro. Most of the officers are great public servants but it is time they clean up the department and get rid of the nervous, the nuts, the cowards who shoot first and ask questions later.
"..."county code does not "contain any language that would enable inspection of evidence before the time of the inquest."
Well, then it would appear that the county code does not have any language that would DENY the inspection of evidence before the time of the inquest.
Only a matter of time before Feds bust through the valley's thin blue line. That's what it will take for metro to police itself through independent review.
three words...
CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD!!!
Statistically, there is a greater chance of winning a slot machine jackpot at any casino on the strip than of a Metro officer's shooting being judged as criminal at coroner's inquest. It's a sad, but mathematically correct statement.
I think Metro should be MORE THAN willing to share evidence IF they were absolutely in the right. But, as usual, it's the typical pro-cop cover-ups, denials and wasting of time filing motions that will get denied by pro-cop judges. I feel the sorriest for the family who can have NO PEACE with their son's death until all this pomp and circumstance is over. Will anything go in their favor? Not until we get to a jury. Then with all the scrambling Metro has done to line up witnesses whose statements won't be chosen UNLESS they are pro-shooting. What a sad, sad situation for the Scott family. When will Erik Scott EVER get to rest in peace?
My husband and son still "carry" even in Costco as is their right as law enforcement and with a CCW - they already know that really isn't enough to PROTECT THEM from the over-reactive Summerlin grannies or inexperienced employees. Funny thing is, the public has NO CLUE as to how many people "carry" in public-so for all the faint of heart, scaredy cat pains in the ass-STAY HOME and watch your reality shows. THIS is real life here in Vegas, it's ugly and the wild, wild west show also know as Metro is out and among us. But you can easily identify them, they're the ones with the cellphone glued to their ear, look and at about 16 and their fingers on the trigger!
Mr Goodman seems to be basking in the limelight over this situation.
Any future plans for a run at a public office Mr Goodman?
The police never makes mistakes. We need to get rid of David Rogers, he can bring charges against the police if he wanted to.
This is just a coroner's inquest, NOT a court proceeding. Evidence does not have to be presented other then to those sitting in on hte inquest. If this was a court proceeding, then yes, all parties should be able to view the evidence. But it's not.
Too many here are "arm chair quarterbacking" on obviously something they know nothing about, what happened that day at Costco. IF the police were wrong, then the family can file suit against Metro; if the inquest shows Metro was just doing their jobs and Mr. Scott was in the wrong, then case closed. THEN perhaps the family, if they STILL feel that Metro was wrong, can still file a wrongful death suit.
<<My husband and son still "carry" even in Costco as is their right as law enforcement and with a CCW - they already know that really isn't enough to PROTECT THEM from the over-reactive Summerlin grannies or inexperienced employees. Funny thing is, the public has NO CLUE as to how many people "carry" in public-so for all the faint of heart, scaredy cat pains in the ass-STAY HOME and watch your reality shows. THIS is real life here in Vegas, it's ugly and the wild, wild west show also know as Metro is out and among us. But you can easily identify them, they're the ones with the cellphone glued to their ear, look and at about 16 and their fingers on the trigger!>>
lvelegante
Your post is a hoot!!! Hope you husband and son KNOW when to oben a police officer's commands.
PS Over reactive Summerline grannies and inexperienced employees. LOLOLOLOL I thank the Good Lord I don't work at Costco because if I didn't know where the donut holes were, your husband or son would pull their permitted weapons on me!!!!
"I hate to say it but if these thugs with badges don't get put in their place, the citizens of this town may just take care of the problem like Sharon Angle says to using "Second Amendment" remedies."
TonyCrago -- I gotta side with you on this one. Angle has taken a lot of heat on this point, but the history of the Second Amendment includes some precedent this is one of the reasons it exists. Perhaps she's recalling the times when We the People took their citizenship seriously and actively, and directly, defended their liberties. Since then, of course, We the People became more like We the Herd and depend on government to give us our rights.
"Fear is the foundation of most governments." - John Adams, 1776 "Thoughts on Government"
Las Vegas needs the FBI, to arrest all the criminals inside the Police department.
RIP Erik Scott
A Citizens Review Board is a must, most cities now have them because police departments have proven time and again they can't police themselves. We can only hope that by the time Scott and Trevon's families are awarded enormous financial settlements the Feds are in the process of cleaning Metro's house.
I am still scratching my head as to why the judge wouldn't allow Scott's family to review the evidence prior to the Inquest. If anything, this could be the straw that gets the Inquest process changed.
Tony Abbatangelo, the judge presiding over this inquest, is endorsed and supported by the Police Protective Association - Metro's union.
He's going to do whatever he can to tilt the case in Metro's favor and protect the officers who killed Mr. Scott.
The inquest process is designed to insure that every officer involved killing is justified in the minds of a mostly gullible public.
There will be a seven figure judgment against Metro and the three officers in the civil trial, (which we as taxpayers will have to pay) and the true facts will come out in that trial. Metro will try for a confidential settlement, though, so the true facts aren't exposed to the public in a fair and open court proceeding.
Somebody, please tell Ross that he is not his Daddy. His Daddy seems to be able to go around leveling disparaging remarks about people and systems but his Daddy has a Rep that can deal with that. Ross can't go around sullying the legal system if he hopes to ever gain their cooperation.
The coroners inquest is just a shame so the officers can't be charged with murder. Any civil suit will just be paid by Metro's insurance company and the officers will be able to go on killing.
I don't understand why the Scott family has waited this long to file a civil suit against Metro and the three officers involved.Thru discovery, all the evidence would have to been to given them by now.
Lmao @ call in the FBI (Federal Bureau of Incompetence). I'm sure they will do a bang up job (Ruby Ridge,Waco). Better off to bring in Larry,Moe, & Curly Joe..
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Costco is one of the most hi tech companies around, their whole company runs on automated computer systems that control everything. You can bet all their data is backed-up in real time and stored in safe off site locations, the back-up of all their security cameras will be in these off-site back-up computers.
Put the un-edited videos on youtube and we'll see the truth!
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ok, perhaps my language is a bit too strong. let's try this again:
Las Vegas, you have a perfect killing machine in clark county.
Metro > DA > Coroner's Inquest
so much for public officials serving the public. you elect them to office and then they laugh at your requests to serve them.
my oh my Las Vegas, how did you do it?
I know of no other state that supplies it's law enforcement personnel with the ultimate license to kill- a dog and pony show with a rubber stamp to add final insult to injury for family of the deceased. you guys do realize your city is a laughing stock, don't you? people go to vegas to get drunk, vomit, commit crimes of vice, gamble, pi*$ in your parking lots and basically act less than human because the populace needs their money. the whole town is the epitomy of prostitution incarnate. the people of vegas stand up for nothing and then take it in the @** by their public officials becuase they are like trained dogs. throw you a scrap and you've forgotten why you just got beat down the night before. to top it all off, you pay for it all with your tax dollars. you pay to get beat down and treated like crap. begging for more. you are truly masochists to the hilt. I guess the people of las vegas are just too stupid, too drunk or too in debt to do anything about their sad state of affairs.
way to go las vegas! you're a pillar of injustice and a reminder to everyone else around the country why "what happens in vegas should stay in vegas."
p.s. the family doesn't even get to see the autopsy report?
what a joke!
"Costco is one of the most hi tech companies around, their whole company runs on automated computer systems that control everything. You can bet all their data is backed-up in real time and stored in safe off site locations, the back-up of all their security cameras will be in these off-site back-up computers."
Don't count on Costco and their hi tech equipment. The hi tech in our casinos only are active and record with less than 15% of the camera operating.
IF the video is faulty, it is COSTCO's fault..not LVMPD. Would everyone remember that please.
AND if the video was not corrupted, you will see it AT the inquest and not before. That is the way hearings work and that is the way the County Code on the inquests reads. NOW...lobby the County Commission to change the code and you all can have your way.
@Det_Munch, just because the current process is NOT fair and transparent and does NOT allow elements of a criminal trial doesn't mean we are stuck with it. We can change the process. We can allow the State Attorney General to investigate, or have a civilian review board, or allow the family of the victim to have more direct participation in the inquest. Our government works for the people, not the other way around. The police work for us, not the other way around. It's not the DA's choice. It's not the commission's choice, It's not Metro's choice....It's our choice.
"If the video is faulty, it is COSTCO's fault...not LVMPD."
That's not true. Metro seized the video at the time of the incident and has had sole possession of it, until they sent it to a lab of THEIR choice.
If it's corrupted ot altered, it's solely the result of Metro's devious and despicable attempts to keep the incidents recorded on the video from the public.
Videos from Mom and Pop and other just-getting-by convenience stores, 7/11s and gas stations are readily available and broadcast to help find perpetrators of crimes. And the videos from one of the world's largest consumer discounters and most respected companies isn't? Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would believe that.
DESERT FOX:
So you are saying that Homicide Detectives intentionally corrupted or altered the tape because we have not seen it yet OR if when presented at the inquest, and an expert (from the company that tried to retireve it) testifies?
JG28, no one knows, but there will always be doubts so long as the organization that does the killing is the same organization that investigates the killing. There will always be doubts because the coroner's inquest process is not fair, open, or transparent. The way the system is set up now invites misuse of power. One great example is Detective Yant. Everyone knows he's a crooked cop now, but the inquest jury in the Trevon Cole inquest had NO idea whatsoever....because the DA's office knew and did not present the information to the jury.
It's not a tape; it's a hard drive. The sheriff, representing Metro, who has everything to lose if this inquest goes against them (it won't), has said it was corrupted and may not be viewable.
That statement would have had far more crediblility if the original hard drive was copied, and the copy sent to the lab, with Costco or the third party security vendor retaining the original. It's foolish to give primary evidence to anyone, especially the subject of the investigation, until it's properly introduced and documented in a court proceeding and held securely by the court. Copies will usually always suffice, especially when it's evidence that can be altered or destroyed.
There's a history of surveillance videos in high profile cases in Las Vegas/Clark County disappearing, being altered or erased for the benefit of one of the parties involved in the respective incidents. The homicide detectives who investigated this case didn't have the hard drive in their possession at all times, and may not have any idea what happened to it from the time it left their possession or before they received it.
I've referred numerous cases to Metro involving surveillance video. In each case, all they wanted was a CD disk showing the incident, and in fact, advised me to retain the original for the prosecutor if the case went to trial.
Lastly, I reread my post and saw that the last sentence could be read or interpreted as casting aspersions against you rather than Metro. I assure you that was not my intent -I respect your opinion and if my post came across that way, I apologize.
As reported on both KLAS and the RJ, Scott had a disturbing pattern of domestic violence as reported by both his ex wives, and Scott pointed a gun at his neighbor and his dog. Scott was a military washout with obvious anger and emotional issues. The fact that he was destroying merchandise and then failed to comply with police orders to get to the ground left Metro with no other option. Scott's reckless behavior brought about his own demise. Metro did the right thing to protect lives.
I agree with ls1, of course they will going on killing. If I have a problem, I'll call a gangbanger that doesn't wear a badge to KILL! Gillisppe, you and your THUGS have got to go, and I mean yesterday! Sorry, but I don't want to be murdered next because I have a cell phone in my hand mistaken for a gun. I will be watching the inquest, but I already know the outcome. When Some one named "Electrocia" e-mailed me thru a lVS web site and threatened me, I because very pi##ed off. Electrocia thought I would be scared, HAH, HAH. Try again!
@lastword.
If the only basis for the 911 call was the opening of the case of water bottles and it appears that was the reason, I have some grave concerns about the actions of the Costco employee and the reactions of the officers.
The first accusation of domestic violence was filed in Colorado while his first ex-wife was living in Nevada. We won't even discuss the jurisdiction issues there. The complaint was made after he filed for divorce. The judge in Colorado who was presiding over the case tossed it out, saying that it should have never been filed.
I would be very careful of giving the claims made by the second ex-wife any creditability. Her name was Lydia Gorzoch, and in 1999 she was involved with a former Metro officer named Jon Brown. He almost died in her apartment while ingesting GHB and Ecstasy. At his trial, he claimed that he took them by accident. She accepted a plea deal and was placed on probation. She was the one who made the claims about pain killers and steriods. In her divorce complaint she made accusations of threats, but provided no specifics, and no records exist of domestic violence complaints filed by her against Scott. Within hours of Scott's death, she was in contact with Metro offering to provide some "dirt" on him.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/darker-details-......
The issue with the neighbor and the dog was investigated by Metro who decided that no charges were warranted.
The Army was going through a reduction in force and about 100 members of the Class of 1994, including Erik Scott opted to leave active duty early.
Tanker1975, I tore you up in another thread and here you are again, posting the same mindless drivel you did in the last one.
Erik Scott wrapped himself in a nice looking package, but underneath he was an angry, sociopath. And from what we've learned, he may have even been under the influence of chemicals at the time of his death. The toxicology reports will let us know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me.
We have a wife-beating, drug user who didn't fulfill his obligation to the Army after we paid for his first rate education. An honorable man wouldn't have lied about completing his obligation to the United States.
An honorable man does not abuse women. An honorable man will seek help if addicted to controlled substances. An honorable man will not trespass on private property with a weapon and refuse to leave when asked. Costco, like any business, reserves the right to refuse service to anyone. An honorable man respects the law and law enforcement officers. When Metro gives you an order, you obey it. Argue about it later. Pulling a pistol on police officers is not the way an honorable man reacts while interacting with police.
A man with a history of domestic violence should never have had a CCW in the first place.
I don't hope Erik Scott rests in peace. I hope he burns in hell. His family deserves nothing for raising this monster. Everyone shopping at Costco that day were at risk for losing their lives. He was a plague on our city and I commend Metro for their quick and decisive actions that saved many, many lives. And saved the women in his life a number of beatings.
To imnewhere, were you one of the murderous cops that killed him? You sure sound like it. Good luck with your next murder. Have a great life! Maybe, before you are done your wall will be filled with articles on your murders.
"I needed to kill that woman because she made a furtive move toward me, it dosn't matter if I had a taser and the gun, she made a move toward me. I felt threaten so I killed her." Inquest response, Yea we get it, she deserved to die, just as that Scott fellow did. Go back on the street and kill more people, you are right!
@ImNewHere.
Where is the history of domestic violence? Two accusations from ex-wives?
Do you know for a fact that he was asked to leave Costco and if you do, what is your source? I have yet to see a verified report in any media source that says that, other than rantings and ravings on threads.
About 100 members of the Class of 1994 were offered the opportunity to leave the Army early due to force reductions. The Army felt that he had fulfiled his obligations, end of story. He was given a Honorable Discharge.
Which order from the officers would you have liked him to obey. They were shouting 3 different commands. No matter which one he obeyed, he was disobeying two others.
As far as the CCW goes, he was given the CCW in 2008, well after the allegations were made by the ex-wives. Since Metro is perfect, it is safe to assume that Metro didn't think there was a problem with "his history of domestice violence" when it granted his CCW.
I doubt that an "honorable man" would have made these comments. "I don't hope Erik Scott rests in peace. I hope he burns in hell. His family deserves nothing for raising this monster. Everyone shopping at Costco that day were at risk for losing their lives. He was a plague on our city and I commend Metro for their quick and decisive actions that saved many, many lives. And saved the women in his life a number of beatings."
If you want to learn about honor, I suggest you follow this link. This electronic magazine is sent out every month to every member of the West Point Association of Graduates, which includes 4 sitting members of Congress, Deputy Cabinet Secretaries, the Governor of, Nebraska, the Chief Justice of the US Court of Appeals, Veterans Affairs, at least 3 CEO's of major corporations, not to mention elected and appointed officials at the state and local level. I got my copy three day ago, when did you get yours?http://www.westpointaog.org/netcommunity/page.aspx?pid=4258
Tanker 1975, Thanx for that info. Imnewhere is apparently a GED grad that waited until he was 21 to be a murderer. Probaly spending his time as a security guard in the local grocery store until then. I don't own a gun, but I would like to challenage this PUNK to some simple hand to hand combat, I would LOVE to see the look on his face to be beat by a woman! OH YEA, Would I LOVE to see that!!
Chunky says:
What Mr. Scott was, might have been, what he did in the past are all irrelevant now.
What he did that day, his actions whatever they may have been led to a call to the police and ultimately his death.
People create their own problems and Mr. Scott created this one. He could have at any point simply shut up and or walked away before the store called the cops and the cops had to call him out on it.
That's what Chunky thinks!
Tanker says:
The actions of the Costco employee played a major part in what happened. If he overstated teh problems, causing the police to overreact to a non problem, then that employee is part of the problem, not just Erik Scott. Chucky needs to read the news and think.
That's what Tanker thinks!
@Alex2: I would be proud to call myself a member of Metro if I were, but I"m not. In previous discussions, I revealed I was someone who is highly trained in the medical field. And I posted about what a scumbag Erik Scott really was. And I also see that you have behaviors that are suggestive of the same violence Erik Scott had. Your histrionic vitriol is recognized and noted, and will be ignored because your posts are ..... well, you're just a troll.
@Tanker1975: You just love a good Internet beat down, don't you? Yes, Erik Scott had a well documented history of domestic violence. If only one ex-wife made that claim, the conclusion is ..... maybe. If two make that claim, it's pretty much in your face that he was a wife-beater.
Even someone with your limited cognitive skills should understand that.
And you play silly games. OK. Do you know for a fact he wasn't asked to leave Costco? Don't be stupid. If he wasn't asked to leave, this incident would have never happened.
And you proved my point. He got a great college education and bailed out. He didn't serve his time supporting and defending the Constitution of the United States, he used his education for himself. So screw him. WE paid for his college education and he used us as a stepping stone for his own means. We would have been better off if someone else got into West Point and really wanted to serve our nation. He cheated us out of that. He took up space a real Patriot could have had.
His history of domestic violence was filed in a different state, Tanker. He lied to get the CCW. Given the evidence we have on Erik Scott now, it's not a surprise he lied.
And I really don't care whether you thing I'm honorable or not. You're an idiot. But there's one thing you can't disprove.... I tell the truth.
imnewhere-stop commenting mr officer, stop proving your idiocracy over and over, or keep proving it. LV police have shot and killed numerous unarmed citizens and feel it's justified. killing any unarmed citizen(all with different backgrounds) or one exercising their second amendment right is a disgrace and you arguing that a dead man's background justifies this horrible pattern in this city is ludicrous.
@imnewhere: You're reaction is very similar to Metro's reaction, which is one of the major reasons why I question Metro.
Scott volunteered to serve his country as a federally commissioned officer. He fulfilled his obligation as determined by the US Army. But some of those that have never served a day in uniform have decided that they think they know better than the US Army and want to assassinate Scott's character by suggesting that he should have served longer.
Metro conducted a background investigation on Scott and gave him a concealed weapons permit. Yet Metro's starts spreading allegations about "domestic violence" complaints even though there was only one complaint that was found to be false. The second wife--a topless dancer with a criminal record from when she was getting high with her Metro officer boyfriend--stated that Scott made verbal "threats". Of course, she didn't make that allegation until she was trying to get money from Scott.
And of course anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see this is just Metro's attempt to distract citizens from the actions of Metro's officers at Costco that day.
At the end of the day, I don't know how the Metro officers can look at themselves in the mirror. You talk about burning in hell? I would suggest to you that cops that mistakenly kill an innocent person and then lie about it to save their hides will probably have front-row seats in the afterlife.
The Feds need to step in. Metro has gotten way out of control!
@wakeup:
Please, wake up! This was an abusive husband, drug user and all-around bad guy. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. And no, I'm not a member of Metro, I do support them though.
@SummerlinCC:
Erik Scott USED the military academy for his own means. I did serve. 8 years in the Navy, but not for me. I served a purpose higher than myself, like most military people do. I signed up for 4 and served 8. I got nothing, no education, no sign-on bonus, no retention bonus, just the regular Navy pay. Erik Scott got a free education and bailed before his obligation was up. He was no better than the welfare cheats who helped bankrupt this country.
He was not an honorable man.
At the end of the day, I can't understand how you can look yourself in the mirror and feel good. You're spitting on the public servants who will go into harm's way to protect you.
Slander Metro all you want, but when you need to call 911, Metro will be there for you.
Unless some scumbag's family sues the city for his worthless life. Then maybe they won't have the officers or the ability to respond to you when you need them.
Cities are dropping police officers like there's no tomorrow. Oakland and St. Louis are great examples. And the ones that are left are just for revenue generation, writing traffic tickets. I'd hate to see that happen here. And it could, if people like you and Erik Scott's family have their way.
I couldn't help but laugh when i read the article written that was intended to slander the reputation of this young man. It would seem to me as well as to many other intelligent individuals that there was a gross injustice performed on that July day costing this man his life. I also believe that no justice will be had during this inquery and that the Scott family will have to pursue a lawsuit to really obtain justice for their son. Reading some of these comments makes me sick. People have no clue and consistently show their "Ignorance".
We need "cop cameras" like they have in San Jose CA
Some people are perfect examples of why you shouldn'g have a battle of wits with somebody who is totally defenseless. But I'm new here. A perfect example of why it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to write and remove all doubt.