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- House poised for up-or-down vote on health care reform (3-20-10)
- Shelley Berkley says she will support health care bill (3-19-10)
- Dina Titus to vote ‘yes’ on health care reform (3-19-10)
- Health care bill putting Dina Titus’ political future on the line (3-18-10)
- How a Harry Reid asset has turned into a liability
- House holds key to unlocking health care reform bill (3-3-2010)
- Nevadans support Democrats' strategy on health care (2-26-2010)
- A Vegas-style gamble on Obama’s agenda (2-25-2010)
- Harry Reid: 'There is no rush' on health care reform (1-26-2010)
Even as Congress draws closer to passing historic health care reform legislation, many Nevadans remain confused about what the overhaul would mean to them.
Campaigns have been fierce on both sides of the debate, often spreading misinformation that distorts the facts (remember “death panels”?) or glossing over the hard realities (everyone must buy insurance or pay fines).
Here, as simply put as possible, is an attempt to answer the question: What’s in the bill?
Immediate changes this year
Six months after the bill is signed into law, insurance companies would be banned from some unpopular practices — no more rescinding coverage when policyholders get sick, imposing lifetime financial caps on coverage or denying coverage for children with pre-existing conditions.
Insurance companies would also be required within six months to allow parents to keep children up to age 26 on health care policies, unless their offspring are offered employer-backed coverage.
This year, the government would offer a $250 rebate to Medicare beneficiaries to help pay their prescription drug costs when they hit the “doughnut hole,” a gap in coverage under existing law. Next year, Medicare beneficiaries would see a 50 percent discount on brand-name drugs to further close that gap.
Within 90 days, a temporary high-risk pool would be created for those who are uninsured because of pre-existing medical conditions, allowing them to immediately buy insurance until new health care exchanges — marketplaces with a range of companies offering insurance policies — are up and running.
These are among the most popular aspects of health care reform, according to polls.
Less popular? Effective immediately would be a 10 percent tax on tanning salon services, which opponents say would lead to higher costs for indoor bronzing.
Personal penalties
Every American, beginning in 2014, would be required to buy insurance or pay a penalty. Subsidies would be offered to help those making less than $44,000 or $88,000 for a family of four, afford insurance.
Fines would be $95 in 2014, gradually rising to $695 by 2016, or up to 2.5 percent of income.
Proponents believe requiring insurance widens the risk pool so costs come down for all; opponents say buying health care should remain a choice.
Employer penalties
Companies with more than 50 workers would be required, by Jan. 1, 2014, to provide health care for their employees or face a penalty of $2,000 per worker (exempting the first 30 workers.)
Up to $40 billion in tax credits would be offered to help companies buy insurance for their workers.
The National Federation of Independent Businesses believes the requirement would be an unaffordable burden on small companies. But Small Business Administrator Karen Mills estimates that only 10,000 small businesses, among 6 million nationwide, would not qualify for the tax credit.
Affordability tax credits
To help individuals and companies afford health care, the government would offer a range of subsidies and tax breaks.
For individuals: Beginning Jan. 1, 2014, those making less than $44,000 annually, or $88,000 for a family of four, would be offered subsidies to buy health care. The subsidies would be on a sliding scale up to 9.5 percent of income.
For small businesses: Beginning this year, companies would be offered tax credits of up to 35 percent of health premiums to buy insurance for their workers. Tax credits would rise up to 50 percent by 2014. Those businesses with fewer than 10 workers would receive a full credit to cover costs.
New taxes on individuals
New taxes would be imposed, beginning Jan. 1, 2013, on individuals making more than $200,000, or $250,000 for couples. Taxes would be 0.9 percent on earned income above those amounts, and 2.9 percent on investment income (dividends, rents, royalties, etc.)
New insurance policy taxes
New taxes would be imposed, on Jan. 1, 2018, on high-value health insurance plans held by individuals — the so-called “Cadillac plans” often offered to union workers or executives.
The tax would be 40 percent on the value of individual plans above $10,200 and family plans above $27,500 (slightly higher, at $11,850 and $30,950, for retirees or workers in high-risk professions.) Excludes dental and vision plans.
This was a major concession in pushing the start date to 2018 made by the Obama administration to the labor unions, which fought the tax over concerns it would snare their members.
New health industry taxes
Pharmaceutical companies would face a $4.8 billion fee beginning in 2011; medical device manufacturers would be hit with a 2.9 percent fee in 2013; and insurance companies would begin to see a nearly $70 billion fee in 2014.
The insurance industry believes many of these fees would be passed on to consumers, raising their costs.
Medicare Advantage
Government payments to the Medicare Advantage program would be frozen in 2011 and decline in subsequent years.
Proponents say Medicare Advantage payments need to be reduced because the popular program costs the government 14 percent more than traditional Medicare. They say seniors on traditional Medicare end up paying higher premiums to cover the costs of Medicare Advantage.
Opponents warn that insurance companies may stop offering Medicare Advantage programs if payments from the government are cut.
Exchanges, the public option and temporary high-risk pool
By Jan. 1, 2014, most states would establish new health care exchanges, where those without job-based insurance could purchase policies, much the way members of Congress now buy insurance from an array of suppliers.
There would be no public option or government-run program. All companies on the exchange would be private providers.
A temporary high-risk pool would be established to offer insurance to those who are uninsured because of a pre-existing medical condition.
This is only a snapshot. Reforming health care is complicated. That’s why the bill runs 2,400 pages. That is also why every other political attempt in this country to provide universal health coverage, as most other leading nations do, has failed.








i was a strong advocate for health care reform...
i don't like this bill...
the insurance industry won...
but...
it is a necessary first step...
we simply must insure the uninsured...
this legislation does that...
bottom line...
we MUST enact campaign finance reform...
the lobbyists run this country...
that and that alone will destroy this county...
..."new health industry taxes".....insurance companies will be hit with a $70 billion dollar fee in 2014 which means they will pass that on to the consumer....so will the pharmaceuticals... they will be hit with a fee in 2011....so when all is said and done the American people will still be paying through the nose...I really dont know who wins here...do the people ever win.....
This is a sad day for our once great country. So long to our freedoms. If you don't believe that, just wait.
Fight Communism now.
The Rabid Right is going to act like the Spoiled Rich Kid who has just been told he has to share his favorite toy.
There is going to be a MONUMENTAL TANTRUM!!!
Maybe we are on our way towards getting control over the runaway train that is our healthcare system.
It is interesting that the same people who cry foul over the bloated governmental payrolls turn completely around when the bloated health system is dealt with. (Is it because their ox getting gored?)
A lot of big and bloated toes got stepped on last night, I am sure their screams will echo for quite a long time.
Ultimately, if our country is going to be internationally competitive, the future cost of providing employee insurance will have to be a fraction of what it would have been if no action was taken to control it.
The bill is not what I would have liked, but it is an important step in the right direction. And by the way, I am a dedicated capitalist who despises communism.
Good reporting....NOT!!!!!!
Lisa left out of the core funding planks of the bill which is over $500 billion in cuts to Medicare providers.
Again,,,,,,don't trust one word that this "newspaper"
says.
Republicans just don't want to do anything. They whined and threw a fit yesterday over the lack of "bipartisanship". So why didn't they participate when Obama gave them the chance? And why didn't they try to do anything when they were in power?
They're just crybabies. Health care reform got done, and Republicans have to live with being on the wrong side of history.
To newsy 97 - "we are on our way towards getting control over the runaway train that is our healthcare system." We have just given the government a major foothold into control of our lives. You may not like communism, but you sure can't see it coming.
Eddie.
We are arrayed against monolithic foreign powers in an economic war that is already starting to show its effects in the US. Many foolish war critics think our financial woes come from the costs of war. Some may, but our real problem is competing against big 'national inc's' that don't play by the same rules we do.
In effect, we are being forced into adopting tactics that may involve more governmental involvement ONLY for the reason that there is nobody else who can do the things required to adapt to the new realities.
I know it sucks and it carries some risk but in the long run, I would rather OUR government help make our decisions instead of say, the Chinese, Japanese, Indian or others that are gaining greater leverage over our markets and our companies. When they control our corporations, who will control our government?
The socialist plan is to destoy small and mid-sized businesses and then take over the corporations because they are controlled by foreign interests. This puts the government in contol of everything. Insidious but it might just work.
Every major piece of social legislation in recent times has been supported by persons on both sides of the political aisle. The fact that this piece was not suggests to me that, down the road, there will be major revisions to it, if not outright repeal.
Thank God pencils have erasers!
To Mikegino
Do you have any idea about what you just said? You are willing to accept the foreign control of American business. If you were not born yesterday, you know that business runs this country. If our corporations are foreign controlled, then FOREIGNERS NOT AMERICANS will run our government.
This may not bother you (are you Chinese?), but it scares the crap out of me.
To counter this possibility, we need NEW ideas, and we need to work and think more creatively in order to maintain the American way of life.
It will require partnering between our people, our company's, and yes, our government.
To Atdleft,
This is NOT about Republicans being on the wrong side of history being pissed off about it. I am a deiciated Democrat and I am ticked off too. By the end of this year(article convenantly left this out) our National Debt will be at almost $3 Tillion becuase of this. In the 4000 some-odd pages of this monstosity, it says it adds some around 50 news taxes. By the time its in full effect the National Debt will be at almost $5 Trillion. Do the very basic math on this one and take off the "Rose Colored Glasses." 50 new taxes and yet somehow manages to nearly double the National Debt. And who get to pay for that, our kids and grandchildren.
I want to leave this world to my kids in good condition, but I also want to leave them a good home to live too. Before spouting Kool-Aid induced rehtoric do the homework on this one, you may find te very people you choose to insult may actually be correct on this one.
sgrgrs1474: you obviously haven't done the homework on this one. Our national debt is over 11 trillion and the CBO states this reform will decrease the deficit.
My biggest concern is that this was an entirely-partisan process where Democrats rammed the legislation through with zero support from Republicans. In addition, every major independent poll showed that 55%+ of Americans were against this bill and the way it was being passed.
Finally, the massive tax burden this is likely to put on our children and grandchildren reminds me of the "taxation without representation" principle. We are burdening future generations with lower standards of living and higher taxes because of our desire to spend now.
The Obama administration touts this as a victory, but I (and about 55% of Americans today) see this as a political party in power abusing the system to ram through legislation regardless of what the American people want.
Newsy: I've got "news" for you: Socialism and what Imam Obummer has planned for this nation are not anything new.
hey gmag...
you nailed it buddy...
those snot nosed spoiled rich kids are gonna cry and cry and cry...
boo hoo hoo...
wah wah wah...
monumental tantrum indeed!!!
Birdiedreamin- I think you are going to be surprised how close this will come to your door and not just the doors of "spoiled rich kids".
If you believe what Obama says, you are in for a rude awakening.
"In addition, every major independent poll showed that 55%+ of Americans were against this bill and the way it was being passed."
Actually, "EVERY" "MAJOR" "INDEPENDENT" poll did NOT show 55%+ of Americans were against this bill. One poll, Rassmussen (hardly "independent), showed 55% were opposed. If you look at the other polls, the average of opposition was within a few points of support.
Democrats delivered on the promise of their election in 2008.
Get your check books out everyone it's going to be a long and bumpy ride,
Here's the link to the Managers Amendment Reconciliation proposal. Worth the read.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc1137...
"If both the reconciliation proposal and H.R. 3590 were enacted, that
combination would impose similar mandates on both intergovernmental
and private-sector entities with costs exceeding the thresholds established
in UMRA. The incremental effect of enacting the reconciliation proposal--
assuming that H.R. 3590 had already been enacted--would be to increase
the costs of the mandates on private-sector entities. That increase in costs
would exceed the annual UMRA threshold as well."
"a. Does not include federal administrative costs that would be subject to appropriation."
"d. The count of uninsured people includes unauthorized immigrants as well as people who are eligible for, but not enrolled in, Medicaid."
Interesting also is how they include on budget and off budget to arrive at the numbers.
hey eddie...
i believe obama over the insurance companies...
and the insurance lobbyists...
any day of the week...
and twice on sunday...
bottom line...
it ain't perfect...
but there was no alternative...
because the stupid pathetic ugly lying republicans never wanted to play ball...
they just wanted to sit on the sidelines and cry and and cry...
like itty bitty children...
boo hoo hoo...
wah wah wah...
you know the world has gone crazy...
when a firemen's wife is worried about having to write checks for health care reform...
good lord...
what the hell is going on!!!
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mikegino :
Not only is this legislative piece of garbage communism on the march, but also fascist in practice by requiring every American to carry health insurance or be fined, or lined up shot to the back of the head and kicked into a ditch. This is unconstitutional crap, and will be repealed after every congressman and senator who voted for it is voted out of office next election(s)
This is also another nail in the coffin of free enterprise in America which offers the highest quality healthcare services in the world! No profit incentive, no specialized procedures in quick turnaround = Death!!
hey environprotector...
did the death panels come over to your house for the end of life counseling yet???
they are coming buddy...
head for the hills...
run...
run for your life!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who...
I really wish all those GOP crybabies who said they would move follow through, but that's not something they're good at. Maybe if we tell them there are WMDs in a country, they'll go on a wild goose chase. History has a weird way of repeating itself.
environprotector,
You obviously know nothing about socialism or communism. I just love it when folks who have never lived in a socialist society preach about the evils of socialism. Europe is full of small and large businesses that are highly taxed and highly profitable. As well for the last 10 years surveys show that the people are happier with their life and government than people in the US. The GOP could have achieved a lot more by working within the process instead of sitting on the sidelines and crying about being left out.
Additionally if health care is so good here in the US why do we have the one of the highest birth mortality rates in the developed world?
More important is that this is another nail in the coffin for representative democracy. How many Congress critters ignored their district's wishes with their vote (either way)?
Yesterday was a sad, sad day for us.
Depends on your source boftx,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
Let's face it, 95%+ haven't even read the bill. How do you hate something you haven't read.
Too many pages? We double spaced it for you. Should we have included pictures?
LOOK A WMD! (gotcha)
taylor,
People are happier in those countries because everyone's on the dole!
You're worried about our high birth mortalilty rate? Does that mean you are pro-life?
henderson,
"on the dole"
Like Social Security, Medicare, public roads, unemployment insurance? As soon as you and the others who complain about socialism get off the dole, as you say you can have some sort of credibility. Until then its just more hot air.
As for pro-life, I don't know of anyone who is pro-death. Ok Stalin perhaps but he might have just been misunderstood.
I come to these sites because of the kindness and intelligence of the posters. Hey, this bill is a small step toward bringing the US into the civilized world. Here is hoping for a single payer system so we can be like the rest of the industrialized world which, for instance, would provide each of us with needed care should we become ill someplace like say Great Britain. I trust that tomorrow everyone who posted here will undergo a conversion experience and be civil and kind and learn to care for all of our brothers and sisters. Enjoy the day!
I own a small business with 10 full time employees and our health insurance premium just increased 45%. I fear this is only the beginning. I am gravely concerned.
Noindex....quit paying for their benefits. If you only have 10 people you do not have to insure them. Unfortunately, that makes you a less desirable employer, but this was bound to happen. Let them get theirs from the Federal Government.
Where are Larry and Ksand? I was looking forward to seeing what comments they had for eachother on this.
enviro: "No profit incentive, no specialized procedures in quick turnaround = Death!!"
We are 38th in life expectancy right now just after Cuba
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cou...
I think your over reacting a bit. Turn off Hannity for a while.
Why does national health care cost 50% less in ALL other countries?
Why do people live longer and are healthier in
these same countries?
GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED, etc.
SPECIAL INTERESTS, SPECIAL INTERESTS, SPECIAL INTERESTS, etc.
The US is a Ogopolistic Plutocrasy- and the health care cost are more proof of this
@noindex Oh pull yourself by your bootstraps and stop your whining. Are you going to let a little illegal alien president mess-up your terrific lifestyle? Grow a set man!
I admit that this "Healthcare Reform" sounds great on the surface, but once you dig a little beneath the surface it starts to get a little scary, and the deeper you dig, the scarier it gets. I read the bill back when it was only about 1200 pages, and it was a bad bill back then, now that the bill is more like 4000 pages, I can't imagine what is hidden in it. Oh and our friend here from the newspaper forgot to mention that this bill also includes an 8% payroll tax, that will begin in the coming weeks so that they can fund the 32 new bureaucracies that have been created. Wonder what will do to our already flagging economy. Our Newspaper friend also points out that this is not a Government run plan. Really? So why the need for 32 new "Healthcare" bureaucracies? Why the need for 16,000 new IRS agents? I suppose they are there to make sure the Tooth fairy and Santa Clause pay their new payroll taxes. That jolly fat guy can be a slippery one.
BirdieDreamin said: "i was a strong advocate for health care reform...i don't like this bill...the insurance industry won...but...it is a necessary first step...
we simply must insure the uninsured...this legislation does that...
bottom line...
we MUST enact campaign finance reform...the lobbyists run this country...that and that alone will destroy this county..."
I agree with you. If they had passed the public option this would have been a much better bill. The way it is now, the insurance companies still win.
Our country is in deep trouble. We do need campign finance reform badly. The lobbyists (and politicians who do not have a conscience) are destroying our country. Sad but true.