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Wendy Rountree voices her support of health care reform during a rally Wednesday in front of Dina Titus’ Henderson office.
Thursday, March 18, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Health care reform supporters Heather Krieger and fiance Tyler Smith hold signs during the rally organized by moveon.org Wednesday in front of U.S. Rep. Dina Titus' office in Henderson.
Dina Titus
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As Democratic Rep. Dina Titus faces a challenging health care vote, how she eventually sells her position to voters could be as important to her political future as whether she votes yes or no.
House Democrats are nervous about voting for a bill that polls show majorities of Americans do not support. Yet Democrats are equally worried about heading into re-election campaigns without accomplishing health care reform after a year spent debating the issue.
For Titus, the internal debate could be heard last week during a tele-town hall meeting with more than 3,000 voters in her Henderson district.
To one caller, Ken, who supports health care reform, saying he is a small-business owner who recently had to discontinue coverage for his workers because of rising premiums, Titus assured him, “I support reform.”
To another, Frank, who was concerned about the costs of the bill, Titus insisted that she wanted to see Congress “tightening their belts” too and was not about to greenlight the bill until she had fully reviewed it. (The final version has yet to be presented to members of Congress.)
“I just don’t believe it’s responsible to commit until you see the bill in front of you,” Titus told him.
A freshman, Titus has walked a fine line, trying to keep her Democratic supporters close while not alienating the independent voters whose ballots make the difference between winning and losing elections in her district.
As the House closes in on a final vote, possibly this weekend, the congresswoman has declined to state her position.
She voted once for the health care bill in the House, in November. Now she’s considering a different version from the Senate, along with a reconciliation bill that would make further changes.
The choices facing Titus, and other Democrats, are fairly clear:
She can choose to heed polling data out this week from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the conservative Independent Women Voice, which says Nevada voters will reward her for switching her vote from yes to no.
In the Independent Women Voice poll, 49 percent said they would be more supportive of their member of Congress if they switched from yes to no. The chamber poll showed a slimmer margin, 40 percent, would support candidates who switch their vote, while 33 percent would support candidates who maintain their support for health care reform. Another 14 percent said it will make no difference.
Democratic strategists say the polls are flawed — tilting more toward conservative voters than the makeup of Titus’ district. Southern Nevada has more registered Democrats than Republicans, but the polls surveyed more Republican-leaning voters than Democrats. In the case of the Independent Women’s poll, experts said the sample of a few dozen voters is too small to assess mood in Titus’ district.
Heeding such poll numbers could be the less appealing option for Democrats, said David Wasserman, who analyzes House races for the Cook Political Report.
“Most Democrats understand what happens if they look incompetent,” he said.
For Titus to change her vote now would open her to attacks as a “flip-flopper,” Wasserman said, and leave voters wondering why Congress spent more than a year debating health care with no law to show for it. “That’s more politically perilous than standing consistently behind a minority view,” he said.
Still, the pressure is intense, as anti-health care reform forces are running radio ads in Titus’ district, and Republicans have vowed to make health care the issue this fall in every race in America.
The National Republican Congressional Committee will begin airing today an ad targeting Titus, asking “Is Dina Titus’ political career on life support?”
The worry among House Democrats is palpable. Experts predict dozens of seats could fall to Republicans in November, threatening their hold on the chamber. Democrats lost control of Congress in 1994, after President Bill Clinton’s failed attempt at health care reform.
Yet Democratic leaders believe the difference this time will be passage of the bill.
Polls also show voters are displeased with the current health care system and want changes.
Nationwide, voters overwhelmingly support several individual provisions in the bill. For example, voters tell pollsters they support stopping insurance companies from dropping their coverage and banning those who have pre-existing medical conditions from buying policies.
Democrats believe their political fortunes will fare better this fall if they pass the bill rather than return empty-handed.
The challenge for Titus and other Democrats, if they choose to vote yes, will be articulating their reasons for supporting the legislation in a 30-second sound bite that can withstand the attacks expected from the opposition: ObamaCare. Government takeover. Rationing.
Last week, former Rep. Marjorie Margolies Mezvinsky, who as a freshman from Pennsylvania cast a deciding vote in 1994 on Clinton’s budget package, offered a cautionary tale. She told The New York Times that she had distilled an explanation of her support into a four-minute sound bite. But her opponents could explain their criticisms in 30 seconds. She lost.
White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said the reason Democrats “didn’t have a 30-second answer in ’94 is they failed to pass health care.” He said he could imagine a candidate making “a very compelling case in 30 seconds or less of all the benefits they delivered and the fact that they took on the insurers to do it.”
Titus knows the difference between having to explain oneself and lobbing attacks. She has been on both sides of that equation — as a veteran state senator who had to answer for past votes and as a challenger in 2008 to the incumbent Republican lawmaker she eventually ousted.
A vote for health care would allow her, while on the campaign trail, to take a page from Obama’s book, reaching for the human faces that can tell the story of health care reform — Nevadans who have been dropped by their insurance companies or had their insurance premiums raised to unaffordable levels.
Wasserman believes that if the bill is passed, Democrats will enjoy a brief victory lap then immediately “pivot to the economy” — the top issue on voters’ minds.
Titus’ spokesman Andrew Stoddard would not discuss campaign strategy for the congresswoman, saying she will articulate her decision to voters after she makes it.
“This is about doing what’s best for the district,” he said, “not who is screaming the loudest.”
I am a strong supporter and I hope she votes yes!
The hated health care reform bill is poison, and any legislators who vote for it will be summarily removed from their office next round of elections.
1% of americans own 95% of wealth, lets just start over on health care and help these desperate 1%.
My rep better vote "yes" or she won't be getting my vote.
If you think it's bad now, wait for the government to take over.
Hopefully she hasn't gone so far socialist the she would vote for this anti-american bill.
Thank goodness the 3rd CD has a real rep now instead of the empty suit Jon Porter who held the seat until Titus kicked his lame *** out.
GO DINA!
Wendy Rountree- Another leech looking for a handout from hardworking taxpayers.
Titus is history if she votes for this
The people who are pictured holding signs in support of Obamacare have not clue as to what this healthcare bill entails. All they know is that they're hoping to get something handed to them by the government.
Congresswoman Titus will vote yes for Healthcare reform, yes for my business, yes for my family, yes for my employees.
Healthcare reform was on the ballot in 2008 and healthcare reform won.
Dina REALLY needs to support this last push for health care reform! I don't think she wants to be held responsible for "killing the bill" and allowing more people to die under the current system. The HMOs are getting away with horrid crimes against us the consumers, and we need to start taking action to address this and give us better choices. The final package may not be perfect, but it's a start and Dina knows that.
If she keeps the faith and supports the bill, we'll have her back. The Republicans obviously won't, no matter how Dina votes on this bill.
Just look at the two photos of the women supporting the bill. As the saying goes, "A picture is worth a thousand words."
jlb101,
Tired of golfing for a living?
schaffer-go down to your welfare office and bug your social worker. You're a Social Parasite.
The Obummercare bill is dying again and Nancy Palosi is even more unhappy now than when that house fell on her sister. Titus can execute the will of the people or find herself unemployed in November.
according to poster blake;
"look at the two photos of the women supporting the bill. As the saying goes, "A picture is worth a thousand words."
What do we take from this comment by blake?
Probably the same thing we take from the more BLATENT crapola we here every day from jlb.
FORE!!!! LOOK OUT!!! FOOOORE!!!
Dina Titus will vote for the bill and let the chips fall where they may. Tough woman, Dina.
just ask fossimons.
I don't think Dina Titus cares 2 craps about a long-term congressional career anyway... she's interested in doing the right thing for Nevadans.
Titus voted to raise taxes on poor and low income families so that middle class families can get free health insurance.
She voted for Cash for Clunkers and Cash for Corporations.
Yes, she will vote for this horrible ObamaCare that will cause preminums to go up due to mandates, it will take away Medicare Advantage and gut hundreds in billions from general Medicare payments to doctors and therefore less doctors will treat Medicare patients.
Pelosi says, "Jump."
Titus says, "How high?"
A wise man once said, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. IF--I said IF--this bill helps one illegal immigrant while helping more than 30 million American citizens who lack health care coverage, then the problem lies with the INS and with the businesses that hire illegal immigrants, not with the health care bill.
Titus will do what she thinks is right. And I will be glad to support her either way, because that is how she always votes. I'd rather have a representative who follows his or her conscience than the hateful views of someone like Wizard of Oz.
All this is about is making the US a Socialist country.
Everyone for this is poor or immigrants who want something for nothing and everyone knows it.
Also they will decrease coverage for those who have it now or increase the cost to keep it. They will also reduce coverage on the elderly. Also everyone will pay higher taxes (i mean those who work. in other words the opponents of this).
You think they are going to provide insurance to 70 million people and its not going to affect working people? LOL, open up your wallets and welcome to the USSA and Comrade Obama and the Democrats vision of the country.
You people who voted them in are to blame for this. You and only you.
This bill is ridiculously long and many members of Congress have admitted to not reading it. Beside giving healthcare to "illegals" there is one line item giving support to vulnerable women by supporting them with housing and education. Tell me how that is related to healthcare. While I agree healthcare could use reform, Congress puts in so much other crap that is totally unrelated to healthcare that we and the younger generation will be paying for forever. It will weaken our economy because we will have to borrow to pay the costs associated with it. China and Russia are fast becoming the world bank and the USA will be beholden to them for decades. No to healthcare right now. It is not in the general publics best interest, just Washingtons and the politicians who want to be reelected to their lucrative job!!
no health care until and after tort reform, and the illegal question gets answered. how about congress concentrates on something important that we all agree on like maybe oh, i don't know, JOBS?
formervegas1976 said: "1% of americans own 95% of wealth, lets just start over on health care and help these desperate 1%"
..and that 1% of Americans pay 95% of the taxes
"This bill is ridiculously long and many members of Congress have admitted to not reading it."
Especially the Republicans that have admitted they will vote against it no matter what's in there.
"It will weaken our economy because we will have to borrow to pay the costs associated with it. "
Uh huh... I never knew a $130 billion deficit reduction over the next 10 years and lower health care costs for small businesses would weaken the economy.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/...
"no health care until and after tort reform, and the illegal question gets answered"
Law suits account for less than 1% of health care costs, and everyone has already said that undocumented immigrants won't be covered by this bill (even though I think we pose a greater risk in leaving them out to pasture).
"They will also reduce coverage on the elderly."
I thought Republicans were against "socialized medicine". So shouldn't they be AGAINST Medicare?
And btw, the bill actually strengthens Medicare by making sure money actually gets spent on senior care rather than expanding HMO profits (which is what's happening under the current system with Medicare Advantage).
Some of the aforementioned "complaints";
"All this is about is making the US a Socialist country.
Everyone for this is poor or immigrants who want something for nothing and everyone knows it."
wAAAAAAH!
"The debate on health care is as meaningless as trying to define God!"
wAAAAAAAAH!
"Titus voted to raise taxes on poor and low income families so that middle class families can get free health insurance." (liiaar! LIAAR!)
wAAAAAAAAAH!
Can you believe the stuff being passed off as actual "arguments" by the NutJobs? WOW!
Thank you, Dina Titus, in advance, for being tough and ignoring the ridiculous nonsense being peddled by the "right".
VOTE YES.
The pork & special favor infused bill Pelosi & Co. are pushing is a travesty, and any pol who votes for it needs to be voted out.
The Dems need to show some courage and either go with a bipartisan incremental approach OR propose we adopt Canada's system (dropping all the pork & special favors) & let the voters decide. They've already wasted a year while the economy suffers and the war drags on -- capping it off with this disaster of a bill will only insure their losses in 2010.
Hey all you Sean Hannity clones- we ALREADY are paying for most health care in this country. Our taxes. Why? No, not "all the illegals and people wanting hand-outs." (Racist and xenophobic rhetoric) Regular hard-working Americans going bankrupt because they have huge medical bills or people getting their care shut off because the insurance companies have no ethics.
The CBO says this will take off $100 billion from the deficit.
You and I ALREADY pay for others' health care. I don't want that anymore. If people can afford care and insurance, MY and YOUR cost will start to go down.
Chill out with your paranoia socialist propaganda nonsense, already. It's old!
About those folks threatening to vote against Titus if she votes for health care reform -- somewhere north of 90% weren't planning to vote for her anyway in November.
On the other hand, a good chunk of her base probably would be discouraged from volunteering, giving her money or voting for her if she voted no. In that scenario, she loses votes while gaining very few new votes on the other side.
The smart play is to vote yes.
If she votes for this bill, she's toast. Plain and simple. Plenty more people who see this bill for what it is---a power grab and one that will lead to amnesty for illegals and more socialism---than like the bill. And she's already got the votes of those who like the bill. She will lose every vote from people who don't like it, so the smart vote would be to vote no.
It's a lie that 1% own 95% of the wealth. Just flat not true.
We should all be very concerned considering Nancy Pelosi herself said "We have to pass the health care bill so you can see what's in it." Wake up, America. This over 2,000-page bill is chock full of hidden taxes increases among other things. We are looking at over a trillion dollars in tax hikes over the next 10 years to pay for the ludicrous bill. The bottom line is: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY.
If this bill passes it will only be a matter of time for our country to go bankrupt. Between the wars and this healthcare reform and the fact that China is no longer loaning us money, the federal reserve will keep printing money and the value of the dollar will bottom out. A year and a half ago the dollar was only worth $.04 cents. Not much more room for mistakes.
Why look at the golfer jlb101 calling me a "social parasite". Does that mean I like to socialize? But I don't golf...and do volunteer.
Dina, please vote for this bill. The CBO scores are in and they look very, very good. Years from now, you will remember this as your finest vote and the American people will thank you for it.
She better vote yes or she loses her base and loses the election.
Socialized healthcare is for countries like Cuba, Venezuela, Sweden, Great Britain, places that place heavy tax burdens on individuals, corporations, and penises. Why? It puts all of them in a deep hole.
Titus needs to read this to help her with her decision:
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/medicare...
If you who think the government is capable of taking on more responsibility and doing it right, you are nothing short of a moron.
Titus and the rest of the D.C. crowd are being paid (by you and me) to clean up this mess. Obama says he'll save money by fixing it, but he chose to do nothing for the first 14 months. Why would we believe someone who has constantly lied to us?
They screw up every single thing they touch and some of you want to give them control of your health care??? Idiots!
Vote NO for Obamacare...Titus is a PP...
Pelosi Puppet...
she will do what dancing nancy tells her what to do..
Vote NO! You go against the American People's wishes and you will pay because we need a representative who listens to the people. This is a pandora's box! Vote No!
The Democrats will be "deemed" out of office in November. There is a sea change coming to Washington.
Why is it my responsibility to pay for someone else's healthcare???
LaRaza today came out in full OPPOSITION to the current health reform plan. How can Democrats hope to be reelected when they are tearing their own groups apart to try and make Pelosi and Obama just look good?
Of course this bill will pass. Dina Titus and the democrats in congress will reap what they sew in November. Yet, the public will pay taxes for 6 years before realizing any benefits of this bill. By then there will not be enough doctors to treat the 30 million plus newly insured (unless the government imports more doctors from the Phillipines or India/Pakistan). Medicare recipients WILL suffer as access and availability of serices WILL be cut (If you have or will have cancer, heart disease or need a new hip or knee good luck). For all of you envious of the rich whom do pay 95% of the taxes, they still will prevail, because they will be able to get the health care the rest of us won't.. by paying for it either here or in a private clinic in Europe. Remember the road to hell is paved with those with good intentions. Guess Dina and congress will soon add a stretch to that highway!
My two favorite Pelosi gems:
On 'deeming' the bill passed:
"It's more insider and process-oriented than most people want to know, but I like it because we don't have to vote on the Senate bill."
And
"It's very exciting, but we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."
Obama was right about running a transparent government. They are so overtly corrupt and anti-constitution they make me sick. These people are just chipping away at the Constitution every single day. I can't wait to vote them all out.
if she votes "yes" my vote will be to vote her out of office...
Start over and do it right, a piece at a time!!!
More nonsense postings from the "I got mine, screw you" crowd. Don't you all have another war to start and not pay for?
This is it ILoveCoffee,
Freedom lovers all over the country are raging war right now over the radical left and their agenda to dismantle our Constitution.
This administration is the current enemy and the greatest threat to liberty that we have faced in many years.
Vote yes or lose my vote in the future.
I have been a part of Team Titus for years. If she votes no I will never vote for her again.
"This administration is the current enemy and the greatest threat to liberty that we have faced in many years."
I see your point, but have you ever heard of Al Qaeda?
Dear Dina: I hope you realize most of the postings above are by tea baggers and the repulsive republican party and they have no intention of voting for you regardless of how you vote on healthcare. The progressives in the world like myself want a yes vote and we will back you all the way. Those above are phonies posing as people who will support you if you vote NO which they really wont. They are trying to make you a puppet of their republican hate machine. Then you wont get their vote anyway. Dont be fooled Dina!!
What's truly amazing about this story is that the reporter, Lisa, actually admits that this is "... a bill that polls show majorities of Americans do not support."
Lisa has consistently been more of a liberal commentator than an objective reporter, so this is a pleasant surprise from her. One might speculate that the facts are so obvious now that even she couldn't spin it.
Dina; Vote for it to keep us from being jerked around by the health care giants and their corporate death panels that deny health care for profit. We need the regulation of them that it in this bill!
ILoveCoffee,
Al quaeda might try to terrorize us, but they can't take our freedom. The Constitution was designed to protect our freedom. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are doing everything they can to work around it because they are so desperate to pass SOMETHING, ANYTHING, so this term is not deemed a complete failure that they are grasping at straws. Doesn't it concern you at all that you are advocating for a bill that you're not even allowed to read until it passes?
What kind of sheeple support legislation that they're not even allowed to read?
That's really stupid.
The Kenyan Marxist, Barry H. Obama, has been a totally inept president so far. Only George W Bush was as inept as this guy (born in Indonesia, incidentally).
Watch out Pierre, there may be a tin foil shoratge soon and you won't be able to make any hats!
Henderson, where is the freedom and liberty in knowing that your family is one diagnosis away from being ruined due to a health care issue? Slavery, whether it be to government or a corporation is still slavery. This bill will help resolve this issue that affects most Americans. Oh, and according to the CBO it will save us a lot of money and cover 30+ million who presently have no health coverage to boot!
"If you who think the government is capable of taking on more responsibility and doing it right, you are nothing short of a moron"
Yea, It is much better to let corporate America run it. They are so honest and only care for the average person. The Insurance companies only have our interest at heart, they don't care about money just do what is right.
Isn't capitalism great!
Dina Titus is the most ethical, honest person I have seen in politics in a long long time. She might not vote the right way on all issues, but she acts with the average person in mind.
Nearly 1/3 of all doctors say they will leave if the health care reform is passed, drug stores say also if it is passed they will stop issuing drugs beacause they will lose out on money. If there will be no drugs, or doctors, can you imagine the lines at the doctors office visit will be like. 10 hours just to see a doctor, and that will be quickcare. You can google search the info if you do not believe me...
"Why do I have to pay for YOUR health care???"
Waaaaaaaaaaa!
Just an FYI...
It is good for EVERYONE.
It's not just about covering millions of your friends and neighbors that HAVE NO HEALTH INSURANCE!
It's about REIGNING IN COSTS.
If you can't see the forest for the trees, CUT A FEW DOWN!
VOTE NO on OBAMACARE
Mayo Clinic in Arizona won't accept Medicare Patients as of Jan 1st 2010.
Now Walgrens in WASHINGTON STATE WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY NEW MEDICADE PATIENTS.
The wheels are coming off obamas bus, don't be part of being under his bus VOTE NO.
In my 65 years I have never been so ashamed of the President of the United States as I have been of obama. I was ashamed of Nixon but obama makes Nixon look like we can change his headstone to Saint Nixon compared to obama. obama has grunted on all of our Allies and PLEASE GOD BLESS AMERICA until we get leaders and leadership back in Washington, DC. obama words means NOTHING TO 70% of the citizens/taxpayers/voters.reid, pelos and obamas words are just foney words of the Hollow demcrat party.
obamacare is INSTITUTIONALIZED CHILD ABUSE ON OUR GRAND CHILDREN AND CHILDREN WITH LOSS OF LIBERTY.
notacon,
Cutting the deficit (which is what the CBO said) is not the same thing as saving us money.
Cutting the deficit means taxing us more, and slashing medicare expenses. Who do you think is paying for this? It's going to COST us money. When I say us, I mean the taxpayer.
gmag - thinking that it's fair to take a share of money you didn't earn (my money) to pay for someone else's healthcare is basically advocating for Socialism. I don't mind giving you some cash if you need it, but you're going to have to wash my car, clean my windows, or mow my lawn or something first to earn it.
Ms. Titus probably doesn't read these comment, nor care about the feeling of her constituents. If she did she would vote no. I do believe she is ethical. She is truly better than Mr Porter, who clearly was unintelligent. For all the responders with agendas on both sides: Your biases are clear.
The problem with the bill is the bll itself. It does address insurance but will not address cost (which will rise), and access (will go down), and quality (will go down further). The insurance industry is a huge problem, yet by affecting the actual people providing the care (Doctors, nurses, and hospital staff), the publics health care, no matter how many people are covered, will be affected negatively. Good Luck
"Nearly 1/3 of all doctors say they will leave if the health care reform is passed, drug stores say also if it is passed they will stop issuing drugs beacause they will lose out on money"
Yea, right. First I don't believe your statment, Second the changes are not so drastic that companies will not profit from it.... if anything it means more money for the doctors and drug companies to fight over.
Most peoples negative reaction to this is because of fear. The fear is caused by the misinformation.
The last poll I heard had doctors in favor by 2/3's. Sounds different than saying 1/3 are against it.
Really hard to believe this. Titus would have never been elected if it were not for Obama, and now wants to throw him under the bus and vote with the Republicans. Good luck getting re elected following that school of thought. Just by holding out, makes me think about voting the other way next time around.
Yes, we need reform but NOT this reform bill. Vote against it, Dina.
Titus is obviously going to vote yes.
She could care less if she loses this Nov.
In fact, she probably is already sick and tire of DC and wants to come home.
There are some Dems in DC that can't stand her.
Future on the line huh.. She should not have even been elected to the house. In my day carpetbaggers like her did not have a chance to get anywhere. Send her back to okifanokie Nevadans with her bags packed.
I'm A republican. Also a disabled Vet. This new bill takes aim at the Tri care system. So Titus better Vote NO or I will give some of my Very Little funds to help her Challenger Kick her out of Office. This bill will only hurry up the process of BO and his Comedy shows destruction of My Country.
Carpet bagger? Really? That is about as ignorant as saying Obama was born in Indonesia.
I have yet to see Nevada put a republican on the ticket that was worthy of office. I would love to vote for an honest republican, but it seems they don't excist.
stgRock tells us, breathlessly:
"There are some Dems in DC that can't stand her."
WHOOOA!
I bet she's CRUSHED! Simply CRUSHED!
Carpetbagger???
Only an ignoramus would call Dina Titus a "carpetbagger."
From Obama Care Bill: "Highlights of New IRS Authority"
IRS agents verify if you have "acceptable" health care
coverage Democrats' Health Overhaul Dangerously Expands IRS Authority," include:
IRS agents verify if you have "acceptable" health care coverage;
IRS has the authority to fine you up to $2,250 or 2 percent of your income (whichever is greater) for failure to prove that you have purchased "minimum essential coverage;"
IRS can confiscate your tax refund;
IRS audits are likely to increase;
IRS will need up to $10 billion to administer the new health care program this decade;
IRS may need to hire as many as 16,500 additional auditors, agents and other employees to investigate and collect billions in new taxes from Americans; and
Nearly half of all these new individual mandate taxes will be paid by Americans earning less than 300 percent of poverty ($66,150 for a family of four.)
We can thank Obama,Pelosi, Dems for this rotten Obama care. Vote Dems out in November!
Stop whining and take your medicine(Obamacare) because it's coming. Can't wait!
Perhaps, as most of your are insisting,Dina Titus might be the only member of Congress who has principles, but....
If you honestly think this is all about Healthcare Reform and poor people, think again The only reason most politicians promote their agendae is to get their hands on more power and money. It has nothing to do with you or me, unless you are a very big contributor to their greed.
Look at the failure that is the United States Postal Service. If the government can't even run the Post Office efficiently, and remember, every American is a USPS customer, what makes you think they can be trusted with the health care of every American? Our government does one thing well, and that is the military.
Wake up before you find yourselves standing in line for your socialized health care.
Henderson is exactly right.
I have had the best healthcare the world has to offer, right here in Vegas, and so has my family.
I don't want the government more involved in my health care more than they are already.
Though I am sure there are ways it could be improved, the government isn't going to be able to do it.
Lets have tort reform for starters. That would make it cheaper.
Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution stipulates that for any bill to become a law, it must pass both the House of Representatives and the Senate. The bill must contain the exact same language in both chambers - and in the version signed by the president - to be a legitimate law.
If Pelosi tries the deem and pass without meeting the constitutional requirements, this thing will be so tied up with legal challenges by the States that we will all be long dead before you get your socialized health care.
Virginia already enacted legislation that prohibits the federal government from forcing its citizens to purchase government-approved health insurance. and at least 30 other states are following their lead.
This will never happen. The challenges alone will tie this up long enough to kick out Obama, Pelosi & Reid, at which time this will be repealed.
Scott,
I'm so glad you brought up tort reform because there is no point in reforming health care without it. The democrats won't touch tort reform because that's how lawyers like John Edwards have become millionaires.
Dina is a champion of the people and stands out in the dumbest state in the nation.
"Tort Reform"
The attempt of corporations eliminating any sort of competition from the people.
Corporations attempt to eliminate any sort of organized labor, wage laws, labor laws, environmental laws, tariffs, or taxes. They lie, lobby, bribe and LITIGATE in an effort to eliminate anything that endangers the bottom line. They want to privatize profit and at the same time socialize risk.
Brought to you by the same people who claim to be in love with the mythical "free market" and who shout and yell about liberty the loudest when someone asks them to pay their share for living in society.
The court system is the common mans last recourse against corporations for wrongs.
"I have had the best healthcare the world has to offer, right here in Vegas, and so has my family."
I'm glad for you. But you are not the norm. I have none at this time because when I did pay out the $800+/month they never paid for anything, always had an excuse.
The government has to get involved because Insurance companies and drug companies refuse to stop raping the public.
And if the current system really is the "best in the world" then that tells me the rest of the world has a REALLY screwed up system.
Lying, lobbying, and bribing...oh my. Isn't that what's happening with the cornhusker kickback, the florida flim-flam and the Louisiana purchase??
States are being bribed to support this bill and as a result our tax dollars here in Nevada and other states will be spent paying for these bribes. The government doesn't want everyone to pay their fair share! They want us to pay our own share, plus whatever extra is needed for those that don't pay anything.
Henderson, you understand that you pay for Huge Highway systems in other states, Roads that you might never use, you understand that right?
Congratulations Dina Titus on making the right decision. This bill is a major step in the right direction. Once it's passed we can continue to make progress. Dina, you now have my vote! Thank you.
Dina just BLEW IT !! She's not gonna be reelected, the vote is not going to pass this bill. If for some incredible reason this bill goes through, EVERYONE who voted yes will be bounced OUT of office next election(s) and the bill will then be repealed!!!!!!
Does that mean you think tax dollars earned in Nevada should spent on granting Nebraska a PERMANENT EXEMPTION from their state share of Medicaid expansion at an additional cost cost to federal taxpayers $45 million in the first decade?
You think because our money already goes towards building interstates outside of Nevada that we should be okay with subsidizing $100-$300 million in added federal aid for Medicaid recipients in Louisiana?
Why should tax money earned by Nevadans be spent on a bribe to grandfather Medicare Advantage enrollees in Florida at a cost of approximately $5 BILLION?
Also, I hope you elderly people see the common thread with these bribes. Your benefits will never be the same. Unless you live in Florida - where they had to grandfather in Medicare Advantage. Everywhere else your benefits are on the chopping block. Why do you think 'Advantage' needed to be grandfathered in?
titus is a moron.
16,000 more IRS agents will be hired with this bill. Just to make sure we buy medical coverage every month.
You think those crack whores in the photo will have to pay for it?
Deemer Titus is an ignorant moron who embraces left wing ideology like the lefty college professor she is. She was lucky to get elected in this district of Nevada, and she will never get elected again. Her sycophant supporters who post here are mostly little old hag liberals who depend on social security and handouts to get by. With Deemer Titus and the rest of the traitor democrats, hell-bent on destroying America, these Deemer lovers will soon be eating dog food while they wait in line at the government health clinic to get their government mandated check-ups, and food stamps.
Good riddance Deemer!
Ever notice how the haters type in caps, and can't spel? Oh, gee, did I spell that wrong? These are the same people who want to get "The government out of Medicare". Hello? Man, the inmates are trying to take over the asylum. Luckily, they will fail...Go, girls, go.
She should vote No because this state does not have the money for more Teachers. Those standing in line with her to get her unemployment check might have a few rude words for her when shes in line. Vote NO and she has a chance to regain some respect and status in this state. Otherwise she may have to move because of her reputation of being worthless.
Man, the Haters have got their voluminous undies in a bunch!
"Her sycophant supporters who post here are mostly little old hag liberals who depend on social security and handouts to get by."
"EVERYONE who voted yes will be bounced OUT of office next election(s) and the bill will then be repealed!!!!!!"
"You think those crack whores in the photo will have to pay for it?"
"The government doesn't want everyone to pay their fair share! They want us to pay our own share, plus whatever extra is needed for those that don't pay anything."
"Titus would have never been elected if it were not for Obama, and now wants to throw him under the bus and vote with the Republicans." (Ha?)
WOWSER... Those are priceless! I'd say the Republican Party is in an awful mess.
gmag,
I take it you support federal tax dollars being spent on granting Nebraska a PERMANENT EXEMPTION from their state share of Medicaid expansion at an additional cost cost to federal taxpayers $45 million in the first decade?
And you're okay with subsidizing $100-$300 million in added federal aid for Medicaid recipients in Louisiana?
And you're okay with bribing Florida by grandfathering in Medicare Advantage enrollees in at a cost of approximately $5 BILLION? Only for Florida?
Does that sound like everyone paying their fair share to you? If so you're not very bright.
Dina Titus = Part of the Problem. How can Anybody have their name associated with this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brh-hGr8m...
Just another Pelosi Puppet..
Ed Bridges for Congress 2010.
We need representatives with Values... not career politicians.
http://www.edbridgesfornevada.com/
henderson.......
You sound like larryvegas.
Is that you, larry?
Look at the model the Dems are using for their format on the Healthcare Bill The state of Mass
The Federal Government had to bail it out and now hospitals are sueing the State to keep from going bankrupt.The plan almost Bankrupted the state until the federal Goverment bailed it out
This Bill will lead to this countries dimise
Looks good from the outside but I tell you what when the State of Mass treasurer who is dem says its no good what else do you need to make you decission or keep you for it view.
Henderson needs to update their talking points:
"Democrats unveiling revisions Thursday to their health care overhaul bill decided to kill the extra $100 million in Medicaid funds for Nebraska that has become a symbol of backdoor deal making."
See what you get when you stay in the Fox News/Limbaugh echo chamber? You miss the real news.
More of Henderson's talking points need updating:
"And you're okay with subsidizing $100-$300 million in added federal aid for Medicaid recipients in Louisiana?"
"The "Louisiana Purchase" applies to one state now, but it would benefit others that are hit by natural disasters. Hurricane Katrina drove thousands of poor people out of the state, which made it statistically wealthier, and that new "wealth" led to reductions in federal Medicaid funding. The provision readjusts the formula for Louisiana, but it's written to establish post-disaster readjustments as a policy."
It helps Louisiana because lawmakers saw the flaws in the system after Hurricane Katrina, Henderson, and it sets up a policy to prevent the same problems in future disasters.
"And you're okay with bribing Florida by grandfathering in Medicare Advantage enrollees in at a cost of approximately $5 BILLION? Only for Florida?"
Only for Florida? That's not true anymore...
"[Nelson] added the provision last year to protect 800,000 Floridians from cuts in Medicare Advantage, a program that pays health insurance providers to offer additional services. The program is costly, and many critics say it's wasteful. The new cuts would affect Medicare Advantage providers and users in other states, and now will affect Florida, too. "
Broaden your horizons, Henderson. Consider more than one source for news, bud.
From Americablog:
If health-care reform finally staggers across the finish line, it will be because President Obama and congressional Democrats recognized -- at long last -- the truth that has been staring them in the face for more than a year: They'll be better off politically if they just try their best to do the right thing.
No matter what the Democrats attempt or how they go about it, Republicans are going to complain, obstruct and attack. That's the inescapable lesson from this whole exercise, and it's hard to fathom why it took so long to sink in. The Democrats looked ridiculous, sitting around the campfire and singing "Kumbaya" while the opposition was out in the forest whittling spears and arrows.
You have to admire the GOP's chutzpah. George W. Bush governed like a steamroller as he enacted his radical initiatives -- massive tax cuts, a huge shift in the balance between privacy and security, an unprecedented "big government" takeover of education policy, an expensive and unfunded Medicare prescription drug program.
But the moment the Republicans were out of power, they discovered a moral imperative for the majority party to do everything in a bipartisan fashion.
Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall
Las Vegas, NV 89142
Tort Reform! If we get Republican Tort Reform it will mean the "end of the world" for freedom and liberty in this country.
The courts just paved the way by giving corporations political sway that even the individual citizens don't have.
Give them Tort Reform and the power of the corporation would be unstoppable. They'll be puting chips in our fingers. They already have chips in our wallets.
It would be like a bad science fiction movie.
The bill still includes:
$300 million in extra Medicaid aid for Louisiana to bribe Mary Landrieu, D-La.
$100 million to build a public hospital in Connecticut to bribe Chris Dodd D-Conn.
Includes language permitting most of the residents of Libby, Mont. to get Medicare benefit to bribe Max Baucus, D-Mont
Gives additional $8.5 billion over the next decade for 11 states and the District of Columbia
Also gives extra money for hospitals and doctors in North and South Dakota, Montana and Wyoming.
Makes the government the only student loan lender, with one exception. The Bank of North Dakota. Weird, no?
An additional $99 million in 2012 and 2013 for Tennessee hospitals for Bart Gordon, D-Tenn
Yearly payments of $100 million to schools with a lot of Hispanics, $100 million to colleges with a lot of black students, and millions more for schools with large numbers of native Americans and other minorities.
The IRS is responsible for implementation and enforcement,
The Ways and Means committe published a report showing how this bill will have a wide-ranging impact on how the IRS operates, including:
IRS agents would be tasked with determining whether Americans had obtained the insurance coverage required under the individual mandate.
Individuals could be fined $2,250 or 2 percent of income, whichever is greater, if you are unable to prove you have "minimum essential coverage."
The IRS would be empowered to confiscate tax refunds if necessary.
Audits probably would increase as a result of the legislation's new requirements.
The budget for IRS operations will balloon by $10 billion in the next decade in order to administrate the new program.
Nearly half of the new individual mandate taxes will be paid "by Americans earning less than 300 percent of poverty, $66150 for a family of four.
The federal government will run up a $1.5 trillion deficit this year--11 times the ten-year "savings" Democrats claim are in the bill. This is just such garbage bill. Get ready for RATIONING. I have relatives in the UK..which BTW has only 61 million people. (The US has 300 million+) My grandchild had a granuloma on her tongue. The Dr. said he could remove it under local anesthesia in about 10 minutes..The catch is there is a 2 YEAR WAIT! All you Dumbos that are wanting this monstrosity passed are VERY Ill-informed about this legislation. It's not at all about health care. IS IS ALL ABOUT GOVERNMENT CONTROL!
Good for you Dina Titus, you did the right thing. This is only the first step in a long needed overhaul of the health care system. You have to have compromise in every bill, this one isn't perfect, but I believe time will tell that this is one of the most important changes that will happen in our lifetime.