Sen. Randolph Townsend takes a phone call Monday during an Interim Finance Committee meeting before the start of the Legislature’s special session. Democratic and Republican lawmakers met through the weekend and into Monday night to develop ideas to counter the governor’s plan.
Tuesday, Feb. 23, 2010 | 2 a.m.
New Taxes to Balance the Budget?
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Sun Archives
- Gibbons trims proposed cuts to education (2-22-2010)
- Special session to cost taxpayers $50,000 per day (2-22-2010)
- State budget: Are mining, gaming really ready to pay more? (2-19-2010)
- Politicians face no-win situation as they tackle state budget (2-17-2010)
- Governor’s plan: Layoffs, pay cuts, tax loophole closures (2-16-2010)
- Hundreds attend town hall meeting to weigh in on state budget crisis (2-13-2010)
- Gibbons seems to be backsliding on pledge to not raise taxes (2-13-2010)
- Two Democrats break ranks, call for state tax hikes (2-13-2010)
- Gibbons to sign proclamation Tuesday calling for special session (2-12-2010)
- Crackdown on uninsured drivers weighed to help fill state budget gap (2-11-2010)
- Governor plans emergency address on Nevada budget (2-7-2010)
- Governor’s speech will lay out state’s budget problems (2-7-2010)
- State budget comes up $800 million short (1-22-2010)
- Forecast: Economy will begin to rebound in mid-2011 (1-22-2010)
- Gibbons’ no-talk order further divides branches (1-22-2010)
- Special session may require help of state Supreme Court (1-10-2010)
Sun Coverage
The 26th special session of the Nevada Legislature convenes today with the primary task of closing the state’s $887 million budget deficit.
Most past special sessions have lasted a day or two, with the legislative and executive branches hammering out an agreement ahead of time. As of Monday night, there was no such agreement.
The size of the budget deficit is historic, state government observers say.
Gov. Jim Gibbons has made public his plan to address it with significant cuts to state agencies. Parts of that plan require approval from the Legislature, where the governor has few remaining allies.
Legislators and others have also been floating proposals, which would avoid some of the deepest cuts. Democratic and Republican lawmakers met through the weekend and into Monday night to develop their plan.
A bipartisan agreement is key because lawmakers expect Gibbons to veto some of their proposals. Despite holding majorities in both the Assembly and Senate, Democrats will need Republican support in the Senate to gather the two-thirds necessary to override a veto.
Here’s a cheat sheet on some of the most talked about ideas to close the state’s deficit.
Operating cuts
There appears to be some agreement between Gibbons and lawmakers to reduce operating expenses, including health care for the poor and disabled, prisons, money for school districts and universities.
Gibbons set the target for cuts at 10 percent, saving the state about $380 million. He revised some of those cuts after legislators and the public protested. Gibbons explained the changes by saying federal money has unexpectedly come available.
The reversed cuts include housing for the mentally ill and mentally disabled, dentures for the poor and elderly, and day care for adults with disabilities. With those revisions, the governor’s operational cuts are about $340 million.
Gibbons had also proposed an additional $36 million cut to K-12 education. On Monday, Gibbons’ office announced the cut to education would shrink. Instead of cutting education by 13 percent next fiscal year, the cut would be 10 percent.
Democratic legislators are trying to reduce the cuts to education even further.
InsureNet
Gibbons has proposed an agreement with a Chicago-based company, InsureNet, to set up cameras across the state that would check whether passing vehicles are insured. Although this technology is not operating anywhere in the United States, the company has guaranteed the state $30 million in revenue from fines and additional auto insurance being purchased.
Legislators have been skeptical about the plan, with some worrying about the Big Brother aspect of the cameras and others questioning whether the untested technology will pan out.
Assemblywoman Debbie Smith, D-Sparks, has said the idea requires further discussion, but not during a special session.
Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, D-Las Vegas, called it “wacky. I don’t see putting a camera on every corner.”
Four 10s for state workers
Gibbons has proposed changing the workweek for most state employees to four days a week, 10-hour days. Most state offices would be closed Fridays.
There would be exceptions for prison guards, university employees and some others.
The Department of Motor Vehicles, the agency that has the most contact with the public, is looking at operating four or five days a week. Currently, DMV offices are open six days a week.
There would be about $600,000 in energy savings from having buildings closed another day.
Furloughs for state employees would be raised to 10 hours a month from the current eight, saving the state $6.1 million.
Capital accounts
Local governments are sitting on more than $4 billion set aside for capital projects. The Nevada State Education Association, Republican gubernatorial candidate Brian Sandoval and some legislators have advocated taking some of that money to blunt further cuts.
Lynn Warne, president of the teachers union, said that parents would support taking money for repaving parking lots and tracks to save the jobs of teachers. Legislators have said much the same thing.
Gibbons is opposed, saying local governments are experiencing their own problems and shouldn’t be looted to address the deficit. Contracting associations, meanwhile, say that the money is needed to fund public works projects and help a struggling construction industry.
Mining
Gibbons and legislators favor taking more money from mining companies, which is one of the few Nevada industries that is doing well.
Gibbons has called for them to pay the state an extra $50 million by reducing tax deductions mines take before calculating the net proceeds on minerals.
Mining companies oppose this idea. They think that giving legislators a way to effectively adjust the mining tax, which is set in the constitution, would set a dangerous precedent.
That doesn’t mean mining isn’t willing to pay more. The industry has put the number from $50 million to $100 million, through either prepayment of taxes or one-time fees. Democrats and Republicans view the prepayment of taxes as kicking the can down the road, but are interested in raising fees on mining.
Gaming
Legislators have suggested increasing the fees paid by the gaming industry so they cover the cost of operating the state agencies that regulate the industry — the Gaming Control Board and Gaming Commission. This would involve raising the fees paid by gaming companies about $32 million per year.
Sources say the gaming industry is split on the proposal, but some of the largest Strip companies are expected to accept the deal.
The industry is struggling, but there is widespread public support for increasing the amount that gaming pays. Gibbons’ staff said he would support fee increases if it’s supported by the industry that pays.
State parks
Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford, D-Las Vegas, has talked about closing most or all state parks, saving about $8 million over the biennium.
Environmental and recreation groups have blasted the idea, pointing to the economic benefit from the parks, particularly in rural areas. Many legislators remain skeptical about the idea.
But some legislators think to show the effect of the budget cuts, all aspects of state government need to be affected.
Lease-back state buildings from private companies
Sen. Bill Raggio, R-Reno, is pushing this idea, which he says came from Republican gubernatorial candidate Brian Sandoval.
Nevada could receive $250 million up front from private companies that buy the state buildings. The state would then lease them back.
Raggio and Sandoval say the plan could spare more dramatic cuts without raising taxes.
Gibbons has blasted the idea as impulsive, and bad fiscal policy.
Democratic lawmakers are skeptical, wondering about who would buy the buildings and make money from the plan.
“It seems like we’d be taking out a loan to cover the state’s operating expenses,” Assemblywoman Sheila Leslie, D-Reno, said during a legislative meeting Monday. Republican lawmakers said the purchasers would mostly be institutional investors.
Arizona has sold and leased back its buildings, raising $735 million in the short term, according to media reports.
Sweeping funds
From the Millennium Scholarship to the Dairy Commission, there are pots of money that have been built up for different purposes. Gibbons has proposed “sweeping” that money into the state’s general fund.
There are $89 million in funds paid by industries; another $12.6 million could be taken or diverted from the Millennium Scholarship, which provides scholarships to Nevada students headed to college. Taking that money will shorten how long the program will be around, unless other funding is secured.
Tobacco cessation groups and health care groups have spoken out against taking about $41 million from the state’s tobacco settlement for smoking prevention and health care grants.







"Local governments are sitting on more than $4 billion set aside for capital projects" - Where? Lander or Lincoln counties? Why not call it Clark County local governments?
"The industry is struggling, but there is widespread public support for increasing the amount that gaming pays. Gibbons' staff said he would support fee increases if it's supported by the industry that pays" - Harrahs just donated a cool million to Bill Clinton..yeah struggling right.
How about cutting the bloated administration at the CCSD, then cutting the salaries of Walt Ruffles and the other educrats by 25%. Will the CCSD open their books to the public, or will Walt Ruffles and the educrats continue to run it like it's their private company? Cut firefighter salaries in Clark County to the same as in North Las Vegas. This would save about 66.5 million dollars a year. From about $200,000 to about $105,000.
A 36 million dollar cut to K-12 education, plus 30 million dollars more for cameras so Big Brother can watch us. Or you could cut firefighter salaries and pick up 66.5 million dollars.
They plan on cutting items that are used by legal citizens of the state. Why dont we take away all the benefits given to the illegal aliens living in Nevada? That amount is over a billion dollars. Why take my stuff away? Quit pandering to the illegals and we will be home free.
OMG - cutting services and housing for disabled adults, but sparing higher ed and fire fighters that make multiples of the average salary for their position? That is just wrong.
"Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, D-Las Vegas, called [InsureNet cameras] "wacky."
Although she's right, this is the person who killed the offer from brothel representatives to be taxed based on what amounted to her personal morality.
She's also so short-sighted she brought Nevada the foreclosure mediation program -- just another band-aid instead of the most simple and effective remedy: require every forecloser to present sworn proof it owns the loan and massively penalize those who start foreclosure without it. Instead individual citizens are on their own when trying anything effective to keep their homes.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln, first inaugural address, 1861
tax the hell out of mining...
they ruin the land...
the profits get shipped out of state...
listen up boys and girls...
anytime a group changes the constitution to limit their own taxation...
you know there is a problem...
why the hell would that be in the constitution...
tax the hell out of mining...
then double it...
then change the constitution...
hey gibbons monkey...
do you understand that mining doesn't have to sign off on any additional taxes???
hmmm???
tax the hell out of gaming...
you realize that steve wynn and shelley adelson have more money than any human could possibly spend in a lifetime...
clearly they were not taxed enough...
raise the taxes on gaming...
then double it...
"tax the hell out of gaming"
I am confident to say that Bridie or Bride's family income is not tied directly to gaming or mining.
Perhaps, he or his family work for the government?????
Whiz sez...
"CUT EVERYONE'S SALARIES IN GOVERNMENT BY AT LEAST 15%, MINIMUM. AND NO MORE JOBS-FOR-LIFE. IF THEY SCREW UP, FIRE 'EM..."
Whiz, you are clueless, callous, and and a cad.
The solution to the state and national debt is very simple: it is tacit approval and support of the illegal immigrants in this country that is costing all of us billions, if not trillions of dollars of our hard earned tax dollars. Make the opportunity for illegals to successfully remain in this country as painful and unpleasant as possible. Make English the language for all government forms, legal documents, public signs Do not support illegals through public education, medical and health services, social welfare benefits. Make employing an illegal or undocumented worker an offense punishable by a very hefty series of fines for repeat offense with mandatory prison time for serious offenders of the law.
Nevada could resolve its budget problem overnight by taking action against the legal and financial support of illegal, undocumented immigrants in this country. What does it cost us as taxpayers for the public education of the children of illegals? How many tax dollars are consumed in our local hospitals, health care facilities, senior support centers, etc by support for the illegals that exist amongst us? What much does this state spend in legal support for those who are jailed or in our state prisons now? Would it not be a savings if the illegals were deported promptly back to their own countries and those nations made to pay the bills they accumulated while here illegally?
The problem is that the political fat cats in our legislatures and Congress do not want to deal with the vote of the illegals, be they Hispanic, Asian, South Pacific Islanders or whatever. It is THE VOTE that counts most to them. Democrat, Republican or Independent it matters not because they are all striving to attract and curry favor of the immigrant vote, be it legal or illegal in origin!
Have you heard one current politician in this state or at the national level insist he or she will work to remedy the illegal immigrant problem by making it more difficult for them to remain in America? They are as rare as a live Martian , because it is THE VOTE that counts to them, not you or me or the rest of the legal citizens of this country.
It is time to stop the politically correct, apologetic, mea culpa, bend over backwards butt kissing policies, we feel sorry for them attitudes we have toward illegal alien immigrants. It is time to get tough and kick these alien intruders out of our country. Let's make America for the legal citizens who have earned their way in this country.
Our tax dollars need to go to support our own legal population not those who would enter illegally and abuse our generous education, health, welfare and other social programs for their own selfish, greedy purposes.
It is time to make the politicians accountable for this problem. Remember them at the ballot box which is our single greatest lever for justice. We can have term limits by casting votes against those political hogs who continue to abuse the system, enrich themselves and fail to do the work of the people that they are supposed to represent: The legal American citizen.
These comments and those previouly submitted herein reflect my own views and not those of anyone else. Prejudiced, biased or whatever some of you may think of them they are my views
Lets sell Nevada.
raggio and sandoval are idiots...
plain and simple...
let's sell the state buildings then lease them back...
do these idiots care one lick about our kids...
man o man...
they seem more than willing to screw the next generation at every single turn...
do you think their grandparents and parents who paid for those buildings are happy with these losers today...
it is just sad how easily the stupid pathetic ugly lying republicans will do and say anything to keep an extra dollar in their bank accounts...
with total disregard for community...
to the horror of past generations...
at the expense of future generations...
sad...
truly sad...
On the $$ for education ( which is the biggest portion of our expenditures)...Did you know that
61 cents out of every dollar spent on education goes for ADMINISTRATION ? Thats a bloated # of dollars not even getting close to the classroom....they need to cut cut cut at the top !!
"you realize that steve wynn and shelley adelson have more money than any human could possibly spend in a lifetime...
clearly they were not taxed enough..."
And how many taxpaying jobs have you created in your lifetime Birdie?????
Go here and count how many firefighters over $100,000.
This issue must be addressed immediately.
http://transparentnevada.com/salaries/20...
Again I agree with the comments of vsestini.
I wonder if we are related? Have you been to Canada?
I agree with both of your recent comments, Noindex. Gaming employs so many people, and they're already taxed higher than mining. Yes Birdiedreamin, Steve Wynn and Sheldon are rich. So what? Don't we want people to have the opportunity to be financially successful if they work their butts off and make the right decisions at the right times (more often than not)? These guys live in NV and pump a lot of money back into the system. They're not angels, and not solely focused on benefitting NV, but a lot of what they do benefits NV. For every Steve Wynn, there are a lot of entrepreneurs that have failed miserably. I'm more angry with the unions that try to get more money for doing less work/contributing less to society. Little to no risk, but they somehow feel entitled to the reward.
Mining is an entirely different issue, in my opinion. They only employ 14,000 people, and take the profits out of state/country. They fund political campaigns on both sides, so none of the crooks (politicians) are willing to correct the tax rate. It appears to be blatant corruption.
Firefighters need to admit that they're overpaid. They complain of it being a perception issue, but we've seen the numbers. Even if the $200K is overall compensation for overtime and benefits, it's still a joke. Many teachers make $40K/year and they're definitely logging plenty of hours after school gets out, especially with the high student/teacher ratio. They're also educated for 4,6,8 years before they're qualified to do what they do. I respect the job that the firefighters do, but that doesn't mean they deserve unlimited pay.
Just my opinion based on the info that I have.
Stupid question...the insane fees that the DMV collects...does that go into the general fund? Someone mentioned that much/most of it is used to fund DOT projects. I always wondered why there's so much road construction, regardless of the economy. Even if it's planned years ahead of time, it seems they need to limit their projects right now. Just wondering if that's a possible source of waste.
I find it interesting that in the years 2004-2006 the state budget increases by 67%. If you had increased it based on increased population and inflation, the growth would have been less than 20%. This is where the problem originated. We had some good gaming years and higher general revenue and so the state rushed to boost spending without considering whether or not it was something that could be sustained. If they increase taxes what we will get is another burst of government growth in a few years when things are better and one that will not be sustainable in the next downturn.
I think Buckley's probably right on the insurance net. It just doesn't seem like a practical, immediate solution.
However, I'm glad to see that legislators are considering a number of options to balance this budget in the short-term and hopefully, set us up for long term success.
LuvGuv Jim Gibbons BUSTED in airport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stOVCITCl...