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Thursday, Feb. 11, 2010 | 2:01 a.m.
Gov. Jim Gibbons
Sun Archives
- Gibbons: Time to reinvent state government (2-8-2010)
- Governor plans emergency address on Nevada budget (2-7-2010)
- Governor’s speech will lay out state’s budget problems (2-7-2010)
- State budget comes up $800 million short (1-22-2010)
- Forecast: Economy will begin to rebound in mid-2011 (1-22-2010)
- Gibbons’ no-talk order further divides branches (1-22-2010)
- Special session may require help of state Supreme Court (1-10-2010)
Sun Coverage
The state’s deficit has grown so dire that Gov. Jim Gibbons is seriously considering hiring a company to search Nevada roadways for uninsured motorists.
The proposal to hire Chicago-based InsureNet to use cameras to verify whether vehicles are insured and registered with the state could raise $100 million in revenue, according to Lynn Hettrick, Gibbons’ deputy chief of staff.
The plan might be included in a package of proposals — likely to include $418 million in budget cuts and other suggestions to close Nevada’s $881 million deficit — which the Legislature will debate during a special session beginning Feb. 23.
The 2009 Legislature considered signing a contract with InsureNet.
A bill that would have required the Department of Motor Vehicles to sign a contract with the company died after the state agency complained it would duplicate an in-house insurance verification system. DMV officials also criticized the bill because it was written so that only InsureNet would qualify, giving it significant leverage in negotiating financial terms.
But InsureNet’s overtures might be more appealing now, as the governor and legislative leaders are working to close the budget hole without raising taxes.
Hettrick said InsureNet would be asked to put up a bond for as much as $100 million. The company said the state could earn $160 million the first year from penalties assessed against drivers, he added.
Some legislators, though, raised privacy concerns.
“The idea of using cameras is anathema for many Nevadans,” Assemblywoman Sheila Leslie, D-Reno, said. “It screams Big Brother ... It hasn’t been done successfully in any other state that I know of.”
Jonathan Miller, president of InsureNet, said if there is no evidence that a driver is uninsured or is driving an unregistered vehicle, the group “dumps” the information it has collected after 60 seconds.
InsureNet cameras — the company calls them scanners — could be set up in law enforcement vehicles or along streets to check license plates of passing cars, Miller said.
The company has been operating overseas, verifying insurance in Antigua and Venezuela for years, he said.
Although it isn’t operating in the United States yet, it is implementing systems in two states, Miller said.
He refused to identify the states because he was under obligation not to, and a few large auto insurance companies oppose the idea because they don’t want to disclose insurance information, he said.
“There is zero risk to anyone in Nevada,” Miller said. “If it doesn’t work, there’s no harm to Nevada. If it does work, there’s a great benefit.”
He won’t ask for a green light to start operating in the state until another jurisdiction is using the technology, he said. “Nevada will know it works, working perfectly.”
According to InsureNet and information cited by Gibbons’ office, up to 20 percent of all vehicles nationwide are uninsured.
DMV officials have acknowledged that the system they use to verify whether drivers have up-to-date insurance is antiquated and inefficient, taking up to 45 days to flag lack of insurance.
To speed up the process, the department has been working on a new system, Nevada LIVE (Liability Insurance Verified Electronically), according to Tom Jacobs, DMV spokesman.
The system was supposed to launch Feb. 1, but is now scheduled to launch March 15.
Although the DMV fought the bill and criticized the proposal just over six months ago, Jacobs on Wednesday referred questions to the governor’s office.
“InsureNet is something different from what Nevada LIVE is,” Jacobs said.
Sorry Governor Gibbons, more Prison Planet is not going to help you get re-elected.
Look, perhaps you should just settle for the private sector gig now and let some intellectuals take the reins.
Pick one: Curtis, Reid, Sandoval...
www.Curtis4governor.com
Put a 50% tax on all Unions Income to fill the gap.
Oh my god! is this the desperation the little Gibbons monkey has resorted to? Please tell us you have more creative intelligent methods than resorting to the old DMV scams. I agree with davidcurtis GET OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT Gibbons!!!
Not bad, such a pain getting hit by the uninsured.
Sounds like a win win to me get the uninsured off the roads.
I like it too.
You see out-of-state plates being park next to you year after year after year.
Lets worry about getting the illegals off the road and out of the country then go ahead and waste money on something else.
I wonder who's getting the kickback from this company for pushing through a contract?
And one more thing, are there any pictures of Gibbons doing something other than frowning and looking crazy?
He looks like more of a Dictator than a Governor with that nasty scowl he always has on his face.
I think he uses that as an intimidation tactic and the sad thing is I think it works.
DMV and police have been used as tax revenue since day 1 - citations, registration scams and fees, the list goes on.
Which politicians have received financial contributions from InsureNet? Let's see what the REAL reason is for a 'no bid' contract for a system currently used only in dictatorship nations (Venezuela...Chavez???)!
Second...just what does an uninsured vehicle look like anyway? What profiling stats does this 'smarter than the average beat cop' system use?
How are they going to know if the out of state person is here on a month's vacation? or a business person that comes up from LA to work twice a week? What about these exotic cars that have no plates?
Arizona is about to get rid of the photo radar, during a big budget crisis.
This would definitely catch some of the illegals driving with no insurance. I like this. It will protect all of us against uninsured drivers.
Oh, what a stupid idea. So, that idiot Gibbons has decided to balance the budget on the backs of the people who are struggling and can't afford insurance?
What a joke. If they can't afford it, the end result will be more people in jail and/or prison.
How does that help the budget.
Can't any of these people see the forest for the trees?
Nevada will hit a new low with this one. Criminalizing the Poor.
I bought down here to get away from this. In Calgary Canada photo radar on freeways expanded to red light camera's at intersections and last year the red light camera's started clicking speeders too. (note: almost $500 for a red light ticket, even if you run it so you don't get rear-ended by someone unable to stop on an icy road.)
When I lived in Vegas a few years ago it was surprising to me how many uninsured motorists there were....and that was before the economic downturn that is occuring now. People from California and the East Coast told me they were surprised at how their insurance went up and their coverage went down. I don't know what the answer is. If people aren't paying their insurance, it's because they don't have the money; this camera idea is likely the government's way of trying to sweep people out of town if they can't afford to live there. I feel for everyone who is struggling now. The solutions...?
WHAT NEXT: A TAX CREDIT FOR TURNING IN AN ILLEGAL?
i'm 100% for random insurance checks, just like d.u.i. checks.
there's just too many unsafe AND uninsured motorists in las vegas. it's a BIG quality of life issue.
you want companies with better paying and more diverse jobs?
start cleaning up some of the garbage.
and YES...they SHOULD be in prison if they don't have insurance!
it's a LAW, folks.
i pay MY insurance...they should pay THEIR insurance.
enough with the bleeding heart "don't be mean to the poor".
you drive = you have insurance.
can't afford insurance = you can't drive.
period.
cops aren't stupid. when they see someone pull out of an office complex with an arizona plate...that person isn't here on vacation.
Illegals. Illegals. Illegals. Beating the same old, tired drum. Sheesh. Turn off FOX News for a minute and know the facts - 17 percent of Nevada's drivers are uninsured. A state with a higher immigration flow like New York (in particular New York City), the uninsured is about seven percent. Many of the highest uninsured motorist rates are in Southern states. (A quick Google search will enlighten you.)
Point is - a lot of citizens can't afford insurance. Not saying they should be on the road, but that's a fact. Am I upset I have to carry uninsured motorist coverage, of course, but to blame illegals is myopic.
I bet you and your 4x4 monster truck are probably out there without the proper insurance coverage.
The tea party Palin lovers and McVey types and sovereign citizen libertarian nut jobs usually don't have car insurance. Cars that are uninsured should be seized under public domain and sold at action, where the illegals will buy them.
We need a talk-radio tax on non-local talk radio. Hannity, Limbaugh and the others should have to pay tax in Nevada.
I like it! Such a pain getting hit by an uninsured motorist!
Why should we hire an outside firm to do what we can do in-house?
Aren't our police officers tasked with ensuring laws of this community are enforced?
They are suppose to, but in reality, they are turning their heads on this issue, because they consider it a minor crime and don't aggressively pursue it.
I was hit on May 18th this past year, and the person who hit me had no insurance. What did the police officer do? Nothing at all. Give him a ticket for this.
What did driver do? He went to traffic court downtown and the DA's allowed him to pay lesser fine and downgrade his ticket to a parking ticket citation!!!!!
Now if the DA's had not done this, and demanded the person pay for the lawful fine of this citation and ensure the uninsured motorist had insurance, perhaps the next person he runs into, by the way he was stoned on drugs and officer didn't do squat about this as well, will not have to file a claim against their own insurance company and watch their rates go up as I did !!!!
Hire an outside firm?
Hell NO!
Make our law enforcement officers, and courts do their damn jobs!!!
Enforce existing laws instead of hiring others to do what we all ready have people to do!!
I thought we were suppose to be working smarter with what we have all ready?
How is outsourcing this going to save money when we have to spend more?????
Idiot Gibbons!
More Republican BS, how much is this company kicking back to Gibbons?
Desperation? I don't think so. He hasn't even hinted at modifying the taxes on mining. There are other revenue options this state can explore, but the politics are forbidding it. Don't call it despair when it is not; it's favoritism. At least be honest about it.
How do you say that you want less government and then support a nanny-state type program like this? What if we had the police start pulling people over for not having a license plate? I know that you get pulled over and don't have insurance paperwork you will get a ticket.
Immigration has been an issue for states like Nevada for many years, but blaming all of our problems on "illegals" is simply ignorant.
I want to know how I can pass a law where if anyone takes my photograph without my permission, they owe me $5,000 for the first infraction and $5,000,000 for subsequent infractions.
Even though camera's might save money (at least for speeding), they are wildly unpopular.
Want people to register their cars?
1) Lower the registration tax - it is very high (that defeats the purpose if your goal is to just get more money)
2) Eliminate the smog test requirements. It is expensive, especially for the poor.
Please, please pass this. There are way to many uninsured drivers out there. They need to be removed from the roadways.
Like I've always said, traffic violations are about the money more than anything else.
Lack of insurance really means little in the big picture -- you're forced into a contract against your will for what amounts to having to prove financial worthiness just to use the public right of way for private purposes. And what should be a civil matter between private citizens has become a revenue stream disguised as a state "safety" issue.
The surveillance part is the most troubling part. How is that a reasonable search?
It's all more proof the state is no longer a parasite, it's a predator actively on the hunt for all of us.
A Chicago Company? That smells kind of funny.....
These cameras are here now. The technology is not new.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jul...
If Boulder City can handle the task, why hire an out of state company with out of state employees to do what should be the job of our existing law enforcement?
silveradoblue says,
"How do you say that you want less government and then support a nanny-state type program like this?"
EXACTLY.
Should we film dinner hour so we can make sure you eat your broccoli?
Enforcing laws for the sole express purpose of "Revenue Generation" makes a mockery of law.
Maybe they should just raise casino tax to par with other states.
"There is zero risk to anyone in Nevada," Miller said. "If it doesn't work, there's no harm to Nevada. If it does work, there's a great benefit."
Miller's statement reminds me of when my children were growing up and would ask to borrow my car while "assuring me that they won't get in an accident." Both are naive, but because of their age at least my kids had an excuse.
Here's how to solve the budget crisis:
CUT SPENDING BY $881,000,000.
Next issue please.
GMAG, come on dude, "nanny state" please think a little more.
A nanny state would be to let the illegal drivers have no consequences from their actions.
The only capacity a government should have is to protect us...... not pamper us.
Axiom, I don't give a flying flip about why a whiny uninsured motorist can't afford to drive....driving is a privilege not a right.
You whiny libs are so off base on this, it really shows why the spineless libs in Congress don't have a clue what to do with the economy, health care or defense.
gmag, back to you, I will agree that enforcing laws for revenue generation is a stupid way to present this....... public safety would have been a better way..... but remember The Gibbon thought of it.
Uninsured motorists have long been a problem here, but farming out law enforcement to an out-of-state for-profit enterprise is hardly the answer. Besides this company not being sworn to uphold the law(like real police are), it amounts to funneling public money into private pockets. Typical Gibbons nonsense - helping his business buddies and to heck with everyone else.
Please pass this! If you are too poor to afford insurance or to even get your car smogged - then take the bus! There is no reason that people should not have insurance when driving a 2,000 pound force in upwards of 45 miles on the street or 80 on the freeway. I also agree that registering restrictions need to be relooked at - it should be based on emissions instead of value but that's another story.
Driving without car insurance should be a class C felony. Lose your car, lose your drivers license, lose license plate, you could even be put in a black book and no insurance company will deal with you. Financial responsibility should be law if you drive. I understand that times are tough but if you don't pay then you don't play. This will put everyone on an even playing field and since it keeps the uninsured off the road, then those same uninsured folks won't be getting into accidents.
Sounds like a plan although wouldn't it just make more sense to use computers and the DMV?
How are these people getting and keeping registration if they are uninsured? Seems be much easier to regulate this using tech.
the $19.95 inspection fee isn't the problem. It's the 100-900 registration fee [most states charge $30] and the insurance that is at the top of the list of states. These "revenue enhancers" are phoney methods to make believe we are a low tax state. It's the mines and businesses that are in a "low tax" state. Nevadans are in a "high tax" state, with few services, poor schools, pathetic roads. Thank G-d it doesn't snow around here. We can barely keep the street lamps lit.
"A nanny state would be to let the illegal drivers have no consequences from their actions."
getalife -- this kind of liability is called a "tort," something that's always been in law. Read my earlier post.
"Driving without car insurance should be a class C felony."
Kaliscanner -- your post is thoughtless to the point of stupidity. You're suggestion is really unless I am equal to you in financial qualifications I am barred from using the public right of way. Are you royalty?
It's about the non-tax revenue stream from us to government, little more. Safety is a very minor justification.
KillerB,
Kaliscanner -- your post is thoughtless to the point of stupidity. You're suggestion is really unless I am equal to you in financial qualifications I am barred from using the public right of way. Are you royalty?
There you go. I allow you to voice your opinion without insulting you. You must have missed the part about the even playing field. That's not stupid on your part, only forgetful.
Killer, "Lack of insurance really means little in the big picture -- you're forced into a contract against your will for what amounts to having to prove financial worthiness just to use the public right of way for private purposes."
If are involved in an accident with one of these miscreants the "big picture" is that you are screwed while you are just trying to "use the public right of way for private purposes."
No, big brother actually has the right to do this. Driving is a privilege. Suing somebody without insurance is about as fruitful as an empty pickers basket.
Want to get around without insurance....... no problem..... walk, ride a bicycle or even.. and here's a crazy thought.... take the friggin' bus.
The crackdown is warranted. Not just as a money maker but as a public safety issue.
I am not a subscriber of the rip-off insurance cults which penalize the socially responsible for the actions of the irresponsible -- arrest me or my beliefs?
You can't get blood out of a turnip and if you can't get additional revenues out of tax increases just whip law enforcement into action!
Will you give me a loan or a house I don't have to pay for?
How about a classroom with a daily free lunch?
Are those that can't afford insurance really on a saving program for pending fees and fines?
What's really discretionary?
Firefighter life-style for everyone!
Has wide-spread panic settled in yet?
Who really wants to be governor anyway?
Is your bank charging you 30% on credit while paying you 0.0025% on savings like mine?
Do all Nevada's solutions really reside within the rainy-day whines of UNLV students?
Will all America's terrorists standup an be accounted for during the census?
Isn't the national debt just really nothing more than a very larger number?
Try to imagine for a moment the national debt being America's accumulated savings - nevermind.
Shouldn't we just nuke China before it's too late?
Nice day for a suntan isn't it?
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"You see out-of-state plates being park next to you year after year after year.
DOesn't mean they are uninsured".
2) Eliminate the smog test requirements. It is expensive, especially for the poor.
It's $25!!!
If the poor can't afford a $25 smog test, how do they afford hundreds for car insurance? They don't!
I think what the person who mentioned seeing the out of state plates year after year was getting at is that those cars are registered in a state other than the one they're driving in. Therefore, they're not paying for Nevada registration so they're living here but our DMV isn't getting any revenue from them. Also, by not having a Nevada insurance policy it affects our economy even further. Obviously not everyone with an out of state plate is uninsured but that's where Gibbons should be cracking down first and then going after the uninsured after.
I agree drop rates make it affortable. but till then if you dont have insurance go to gibbons house ask for a ride to walmart to get a job that you still cant afford insurance.on the way ask him take you to get food stamps sure he would be more than happy.
How are you going to track down these motorists once the camera figures out there's a problem? Most people in Las Vegas without insurance I am willing to bet don't have their current address listed with the DMV. What about the out of state plates will this new system be linked to all 50 DMV's so that we can know if people with out of state plates are uninsured? Seems like a big waste of money to try and ding people with $300 tickets that they will never pay. Cracking down on people that live here and never change their vehicle registration seems like a much better revenue generator. If they have a NV license and an out of state plate give them a ticket and make them register their car in NV.
1. InsurNet announced that they would NOT put money up-front for the bond. Thus, another risky investment put on the taxpayer by politicians.
2. The Gov. is, therefore, admitting that the $22 million for DMV's NevadaLIVE is a complete bust. Heads should roll . . . and the buck stops at?
3. There is a disconnection between drivers and license plates, especially for those that choose to skirt the law.
4. Make sure you add the costs for vandalism. Takes one can of spray paint.
5. And what if the perpetrator refuses to pay the fine just like they refused to pay for the insurance?
Cracking down on illegals & the employers that hire them would also help state coffers...
When I moved here years ago I had just paid my yearly registration fees in August, $50 for my registration and an additional $450 in fees and taxes upon taxes. I then moved here about 3 months later and was told Nevada required I re-register my truck with them for another $50 for registration and $450 in fees and taxes upon taxes. That is outrageous to think I should be forced to pay again when my tags were still vaild for another 9 months. How can Nevada expect people to re-register all their vehicles when they have valid tags for the remainder of the year. If it was just the registration fee most people would take care of it pretty quick however when the state adds another 1,000 per cent on top of it it is just stupid if not criminal to expect people to pay twice for the same time.
If Governor Gibbons doesn't like the idea of poor people driving uninsured, maybe he should take the bus. Governor, nobody has a right to drive on the highways, and that includes you. Governor, I will bet you 1,000$ that you have people on food stamps due to mandatory auto insurance or its fines.A food stamp survey done in Billings, MT in October of 2004, showed 12 of the 96 food stamp applicants said auto insurance was a reason for needing food stamps.Go to http://www.foodstampstudy.com
There is another food stamp survey at the "Helena.MT news topix" site. Type the words in quotations and click onto the first site that comes up and check the Recent forums discussions section and you will find over 25 who answered the survey, said the main reason for needing food stamps was mandatory auto insurance.
If Gov Gibbons would drive a 1,000$ vehicle to work, he wouldn't suffer 20,000$ in vehicle damage to an uninsured driver. If you prefer to drive a 20,000$ vehicle, which you do not need, instead of a 1,000$ vehicle, you pay to protect it.
And using indigents to balance the budget, doesn't sound like "Blessed are the poor" to me.
getalife, I agree 100 percent. I don't like uninsured motorists any better than the next guy; it IS illegal. But, I am leary of this for the same reason I am against SPEED TRAPS. Revenue generation only, in spots where the predominant SAFE speed is routinely ignored, with no enforcement, except the very occasional "revenue generating procedures."
What I would PREFER is actual enforcement of traffic laws where it is dearly needed in this town.
We need chips implanted in all cars so that mileage can be monitored for a per mile tax.
Give them time and it will happen. You walk into the Library, as your card is being swiped, an alert notice flashes that you have unpaid traffic fines. Then, before you know it, two Metro Clad warriors approach you from behind and off you go.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. It's coming!
Here is the solution for the Las Vegas valley:
ALLOW CLARK COUNTY TO BREAK AWAY FROM NEVADA!! This system is not working!!
For goodness sake, this system is dysfunctional is NOT working!! Let the valley take care of themselves!!!
I am only 17, and yes baby I am gonna start a revolution for REAL capitalism!! That means no more wasteful welfare, health services, public schools, meddling from BLM, and the power to invest!!
The Las Vegas valley is gonna get the cure it needs!! REVOLUTION HERE WE COME!!!
I AM DYING TO MAKE DIFFERENCE AND START AN ORGAINZATION!!! DO YOU ALL HEAR ME!!!
Good luck with collections. They first have to have the access to the illegal immigrants and next they'll have to tap the welfare payments being made to collect debts. What a waste of time and money, they'll be booking revenues with no chance of collecting. Anybody with common sense would realize that voodoo accounting is what got us into this mess in the first place and it isn't going to get us out of this mess. We can't expect nor should anyone use this type of accounting to develop a budget, who in their right mind can honestly believe that tickets generated from the illegal immigrants, career criminals, and career welfare recepitants will be collected?
These brain dead politicians need to get real and stop spending on programs that haven't worked and will never work. Stop spending on illegal immigrants, make welfare recepitants work for their payments in the system, stop spending on lunatic liberal environmental groups, and accountability within the public employee system, we'd realize instant savings and our budget problems are solved.
80% of the uninsured motorists are from Mexico, so let's start by getting rid of them and it will solve a lot of our problems.
So basically the state of NV is going to hire a private firm to help other private firms (the insurance industry) collect revenue. Shouldn't the insurance industry, which stands to benefit more than anyone else in this, be financing this project? Seems only fair.
Kaliscanner -- you were insulted because you deserved to be. You posted not having insurance should be a felony -- why exactly should refusing a contract of adhesion be a crime, let alone a felony? You should love the House version of Obamacare. It has that penalty in it -- a citizen would become a felon for not signing up for health insurance.
getalife -- you described a tort. Again, why is the state coming down on one side of such a dispute between people? That amounts to having its thumb on the scales of justice. And that violates the promise of being equal before the law.
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others." -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82
Altho I see nothing wrong, in principle, with the program, I question how cost-effective it is likely to be.
Cameras, with related computer/communications, would tend to cost in the low four figures each.
Would they actually spot enough "problem" license plates to justify this?
IMO, installation of same should not be at taxpayers' expense; if InsureNet thinks there would be enough "hits", it should pay for installation and be reimbursed only for actual "hits".
KillerB,
You must be blinded by that sheen on your over polished handgun. Here's a tip for ya: It is unlawful to operate a motor vehicle in the State of Nevada without insurance. If you become an habitual offender, guess what? Felony.
How about a crack down on illegal aliens? Oh,wait , there is no fine / fee/county/state /city court surcharge on that...Revenue enhancement-sure and simple.
I laughed out loud when I read that this crackerbox company was doing business in Antigua! My husband and I were in Antigua last spring for a week. We rented a car for a few days and found hand that a donkey and cart would have been better! The roads are only wide enough for one car to get by, and there are big drainage ditches on both sides of the road. (Try getting a rental car out of one of those!!) None of the roads have signs on them, no street lights (no electricity to run street lights). I don't remember there even being a traffic light! I find it very difficult to believe that some company is using cameras to catch uninsured motorists on this island! When less then half the island population has a phone line. Sounds fishy to me!
By the way... one of the best vacations we have had!
Kaliscanner -- it's evident the concept of liberty, including freedom to travel on the public right of way, and the source of authority for laws completely escapes you. I'm finished with you here. Moo on.
"The Patriot Act changed all of that as you know."
Sergio -- accepting for this moment only it had anything to do with the topic of this Discussion, that Act changed the USA into a police state. But only in appearance and operation. It and those who passed it had no power to change the source of their authority -- according to the Supreme Law of this land, it was void in its making.
John Marshall explained it better:
"So, if a law be in opposition to the Constitution, if both the law and the Constitution apply to a particular case, so that the Court must either decide that case conformably to the law, disregarding the Constitution, or conformably to the Constitution, disregarding the law, the Court must determine which of these conflicting rules governs the case. This is of the very essence of judicial duty.
"If, then, the Courts are to regard the Constitution, and the Constitution is superior to any ordinary act of the Legislature, the Constitution, and not such ordinary act, must govern the case to which they both apply.
"Those, then, who controvert the principle that the Constitution is to be considered in court as a paramount law are reduced to the necessity of maintaining that courts must close their eyes on the Constitution, and see only the law.
"This doctrine would subvert the very foundation of all written Constitutions. It would declare that an act which, according to the principles and theory of our government, is entirely void, is yet, in practice, completely obligatory. It would declare that, if the Legislature shall do what is expressly forbidden, such act, notwithstanding the express prohibition, is in reality effectual. It would be giving to the Legislature a practical and real omnipotence with the same breath which professes to restrict their powers within narrow limits. It is prescribing limits, and declaring that those limits may be passed at pleasure." . . . . .
"Thus, the particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written Constitutions, that a law repugnant to the Constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument." -- Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137, 178, 179 (1803)
Axiom,
"I bet you and your 4x4 monster truck are probably out there without the proper insurance coverage."
Try getting your superduty truck hit by one of these uninsured motorists on 15/sahara,and not being able to collect nothing due to the fact they live in a household of 13 others.
My ins inv checked his situation,and filing a civil suit would be a waste of my time considering the facts
My superduty is lifted,and has nice wheels,BUT I pay my insurance,and always will,so dont single us truck drivers out because youre another one of the jealous douchebags that cant handle a construction worker driving around in a 46,000 truck
And one more thing my Harley also has maintained coverage also
ROFL all the way to the bank!!
just another jealous puke
peace out
We need chips implanted in all cars so that mileage can be monitored for a per mile tax.
mred== Some states have something close to that,,its called a toll road...Then the state would lose federal highway dollars...
As for the smog issue,,it would not be an issue but all the green people wont let it be..And you think that smog testing is expensive,, the cost of a license to smog vehicles is not cheap...
bldblu-- I agree....
How abour a law stating that when in an accident, you cannot collect on someone else's insurance (if it's the other driver's fault) If you cannot provide proof that you have insurance yourself. Most of us PAY PAY PAY while watching the others get a free ride. I say a checkpoint like DUI is a good idea. Some states have insurance data in the police database, so even if you don't have a card, the police can check instantly on their computer.
After we pay and pay, if we get nabbed in a speed trap, the state or city takes hundreds for the ticket, then the insurance company jacks up your rate for years.
If an uninsured is stopped, tow their car.
California used to require proof of insurance to register a vehicle. The "poor illegals" called it unfair, and they no longer require that proof.
Bakersfield -- exactly how is any of that a good thing, considering my posts here?
Bakersfield California still requires insurance to register or renew a registration. Try and get out the trailer more often, will ya?
What Nevada really needs is a system in place to catch drivers who intentionally do NOT register their vehicles in Nevada. They avoid paying the taxes and fees that the rest of us pay. I went from $45 a year to $450 a year when I registered my vehicle in Nevada.
And another thing, what do we need InsureNet for when we will have NevadaLive up in a month or so. Unless a law enforcement officer is using either of the systems, it doesn't matter. All the DMV can do is send a letter to the offender telling them to turn in their plates. The same letter the DMV currently sends out. The offenders will say, "Big Deal. I got a letter. I'll continue to drive without insurance until I get caught".
Nothing accomplished. If NevadaLive or InsureNet is going to work, when a vehicle is identified as an offender, a law enforcement team needs to go out and seize the plates off the vehicle. Then driving it will be a lot more obvious.
In addition, DMV should obtain the date of cancellation, and assess fines proportionate with the cancellation date. For some folks, the fines are less than the cost of insurance.
The same goes for those who drive on out of state tags. Determine when they moved here, and assess fines and penalties back to that date.
I think getting the uninsured off of the road will help the budget. Another option is a new vehicle license plate that a company is building in South Carolina. Take a look at their site www.complianceinnovations.com and place your curser over the license plate and see what happens. They will be able to suspend or expire the plate with wireless communication regardless of the vehicle location. Talk about using technology to bring in millions of dollars in revenue.
mred
"We need chips implanted in all cars so that mileage can be monitored for a per mile tax."
Actually I think we need a chip in your head so that we can tax you every time you have a thought.