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Palo Verde High School’s Brad Solomon practices with the team at the school Tuesday, Aug. 7, 2012. Palo Verde will face Desert Vista High School (Arizona) in the Sollenberger Classic at the University of Phoenix Stadium in Arizona on Aug. 18.
Thursday, Aug. 16, 2012 | 2:05 a.m.
Palo Verde Coach Darwin Rost
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Palo Verde High School Coach Darwin Rost talks about the upcoming 2012 football season.
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Las Vegas Sun sports reporters Ray Brewer and Case Keefer are back with a comprehensive — or some would say long-winded — look at high school football. They go division-by-division and team-by-team in this exhaustive 2012 debut. So settle in on the couch with a Snuggie or plan to make a round-trip drive from Boulder City to Shadow Ridge in order to listen to this one.
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GLENDALE, Ariz. — Players on the Palo Verde High football team are more than familiar with the negative comments and criticism about their program.
Ever since the perennial Las Vegas power Panthers were picked in April for Saturday’s Sollenberger Classic, the message hasn’t changed when debating their selection over three-time defending state champion Bishop Gorman: Palo Verde, despite a 59-6 record since 2007, isn’t worthy to represent Nevada on a national stage, the critics say.
Gorman, which is nationally ranked, had played in the game — where a Nevada team takes on an Arizona school — the past two seasons. Until this year, the organizers took the past season’s state champion to represent Nevada.
But come Saturday, it will be Gorman’s Summerlin rivals, Palo Verde, representing the Silver State when the Panthers play defending Arizona state champion Desert Vista High at 7 p.m. at the University of Phoenix Stadium (home to the NFL’s Arizona Cardinals).
Some aren’t giving Palo Verde much of a chance.
“Have you ever seen Palo Verde’s offense? That will be one horrible three hours for television viewers and anyone who chooses to attend this game,” one commenter posted on the Sun’s website.
Another posted, “They (Arizona) are still stinging from the embarrassing butt-kicking that Gorman gave them last year, so they invited a much easier team this year.”
The Palo Verde players have taken inventory of the negative comments and are using them as a rallying cry in their preparation. Palo Verde has just two defeats the past two seasons — both in the playoffs to Gorman — and are widely considered one of Nevada’s unquestioned top programs.
The players plan on proving that claim against Desert Vista in one of the first games of the season nationally.
“Palo Verde is always the underdog,” said Ryan Beaulieu, the Panthers' three-year starting running back and defensive back. “People aren’t expecting much from us. They don’t realize the talent we have this year, and that motivates us.
“We have a really good chance (to beat Desert Vista). We have a really good team this year. Lots of talent.”
And, because of the talent at the skilled positions, that so-called “boring” offense might have a different look to it.
Palo Verde still will primarily operate out of its double-wing attack, which, despite what the critics have said, has been virtually impossible for opponents to stop. Last year, for instance, Palo Verde rushed for 3,119 yards in 12 games.
Senior Lee Griggs
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Senior running back and safety Lee Griggs talks about Palo Verde's upcoming season
This year, however, they have installed part of the spread offense with hopes of taking advantage of their team speed. In addition to Beaulieu and Lee Griggs, two members of the Sun’s preseason all-city team and legitimate Division I prospects, the Panthers have several other players coach Darwin Rost feels could have a breakthrough season.
“We are trying to move the ball around the field more,” said Brad Solomon, an anchor of the Palo Verde line. “We are trying to get the ball around to more people and spread it out a little bit.”
The pageantry of the Sollenberger Classic might serve as a perfect setting for Palo Verde to unveil an altered offense. Getting to play in an NFL stadium is a once-in-a-lifetime experience the players won’t soon forget — something that makes this more than an early-season game that serves as a table-setter for the rest of the year.
“We get a little treat this year,” Rost said. “It’s a nice reward for the kids.”
First-game jitters are pretty commonplace for a majority of high school teams each August. Considering the magnitude of the Sollenberger Classic, the venue and the pressure of proving they deserved to be selected, it could potentially be overwhelming for Palo Verde.
“Even though this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, we are trying not to be overwhelmed about it,” Solomon said. “We have to stay focused on the game no matter where we are playing.”
Earlier Saturday, Moapa Valley from Overton will challenge Arizona’s Blue Ridge High in the Sollenberger Classic’s small-school game. Friday, the Sun will have a story on Moapa Valley online.
Ray Brewer can be reached at 990-2662 or ray.brewer@lasvegassun.com. Follow Ray on Twitter at twitter.com/raybrewer21.
How can anyone with a brain compare the recruiting of football players by Gorman,the training facilities built by the crooked Ferttitas,as well as the loaded deck that Gorman maintains every day of every year over any rival,to the public school Palo Verde. Gorman is a traing facilty for collegiate players from any where Gorman wants to recruit them.
I'm excited about the current state of Nevada athletics. When I was in high school, Nevada football was a joke. Maybe 1 or 2 Nevada kids a year were recruited to play at a recognized college. Now Liberty, Palo Verde, Las Vegas High, Gorman, Canyon Springs, Del Sol, and others regularly put out big time talent. While the arguments that Liberty or Gorman should have taken the spot in the Sollenberger game have some merit based on last year's final standings, Palo Verde is a great program and the kids there deserve a great game like this. Liberty has a great game lined up in California later in the season, and Gorman plays a couple of the top teams in the country this season. I think it's cool that a lot of local talent has the opportunity to go out of state.
Nevada high school baseball and basketball has also made big strides since I graduated. I think it's awesome.
I'm not a Palo Verde fan, but they have had a very successful program and are deserving of the shot. This game will be a better measurement of Nevada football rather than sending Gorman and their all-star team every year.
First let me reiterate that i'll be rooting hard for Palo, as I would any NV team against out of state. I know they will be ready and willing to step up. That however doesn't change the fact that 6 teams that finished ahead of the last year got passed up so they could go. It goes back to the NIAA having to back track when the AIA said they asked for a school from NV, got a list and it didn't include Gorman (meaning NIAA didn't want to) then suddenly things changed. Again if they don't want to send Gorman that's fine, they don't owe Gorman an apology. But to lie and then try to backtrack just made them look silly. I just don't think they had to lie about why and they should have sent Liberty, Reed, Carson, Foothill.. instead. Palo should be playing Crespi and Liberty (if not BG) should be playing Desert Vista. With Rost, his wife and PV principal all tied to the NIAA i think it just looked bad to skip Gorman and 5 others to send Palo. I hope Palo goes out and wins one for NV but I don't bet with my heart. Like I said before Palo would be ready and willing to play anyone from Virgin Valley to Gorman to the Miami Dolphins, the question isn't whether they'd prepared or willing the question was why they were chosen. Good luck to Palo I think we are all rooting for you.
Second-"Palo Verde is always the underdog," said Ryan Beaulieu What kool-aid does Rost have them drinking at Palo? They have not been the underdog except in 3 times in 4 years. That's 56 games you weren't the underdog in. You'd be favored to beat all but 2-3 schools in the state no Ryan, Palo is not always the underdog, in fact they almost never are. Just like you guys come out and punch Gorman in the mouth I am certain Palo wont be intimidated by the stadium or team and they'll bring it to Desert Vista. Credit to Palo to be ready but to say you guys are always the underdog is like asking for a pity party that nobody is throwing.
Palo has been the underdog 3 times in 3years, each to Gorman, that's it. I stand corrected, Gorman doesn't have all the power, Palo has some too! Good luck Palo, make us proud!
Good luck Palo. I may watch the game if Palo is going to run a more varied offensive scheme. I feel sorry for any player who has to play offense for Palo as those players don't have much of a chance to demonstrate playing in college style offense. I believe this limits scholarship opportunities for their players.
What a joke....Nevada sends over a JV team to compete to represent the State? It's embarrassing. Desert Vista is gonna whoop their heineys! I'm not rooting for Palo....why should I root for a team that doesn't deserve to play in this game?
People like to claim that Gorman is crooked and cheats.....this game is a classic example of hypocrisy! The same people who make those claims against Gorman setup this bogus matchup. I hope PV gets crushed! I have no love for a rival...any Gorman fan who does is a traitor. Would a USC fan root for UCLA? Would a Florida fan root for Florida State? Would a South Carolina fan root for Clemson? Exactly.....
So I am a traitor because I am rooting for 16-17 year old kids who had nothing to do with the selection of their team playing in this game? That's funny because I can name half the roster at Gorman who have friends they grew up with who suit up for Palo most of whom they'll be cheering for on Saturday to pull off an upset against Desert Vista.
The selection of Palo was ill advised, unfair and more crooked than Mexican politicians; however nobody who actually suits up and puts on a helmet had any part or choice in that. Anybody who is a grown man would be able to separate the two. I am a bigger Gorman fan than anyone not named Billy Raftery and I bleed orange and blue.
There's arrogant and fair weather Gorman fans then there's the rest of us. Thank you sir for making that clear.
@tuasdad - Whatever. 2 generations of Gaels in the family and we bleed orange & blue. In our household there's no cheering for PV or any other school in the city, but especially them. Yes, you're a traitor in my eyes. Just like the other examples of college football I gave above. We attended every home/away freshman football game our son played, even though he wasn't a starter and only played a few minutes a game. We then watched every home/away JV game when he was on JV. Now that he's on Varsity, he gets robbed of playing in Arizona but his friends that he last saw in Junior High School gets to go and we're supposed to cheer for them? Yeah right. Last year, we drove out to Arizona for this game to show our support for the Varsity team.
Yes, I may be arrogant, but I'm not a fair weathered fan.....so check yourself. The 2 are not packaged together. No matter what, I'm not cheering for Palo. I'm a fan of the Gaels and support our Son, not the area high school football program.
From your posts, I understand that you're a local high school fan....good for you. You can recite the practice and season schedule for all of the other high school programs.....that's great, I'll concede the gold medal of high school football to you sir. I could care less about Liberty, Basic, or any of the also rans. For those of us who don't care about any of the other programs, we support the kids in our program who work hard. As you pointed out, it wasn't their fault they got robbed of playing in this game....at the same time, we're not going to insult our Son by cheering for the kids who don't deserve to play in that game....even if they were playground friends 5 yrs ago.
I agree the selection process for the "Sollenberger Classic" is highly suspect. How the most dominant team the last 5-6 years was not even considered is beyond reason. However, the decision was made and Palo is the Nevada representative. There are 3 Las Vegas schools playing out of state this year, 2 public and 1 private. Even though I'm not an avid fan of any (Liberty, Palo Verde, or Gorman) I realize the significance this means to "NEVADA" high school football. The success of each of these teams will speak volumes to the level of talent "NEVADA" has to offer. Especially for the public schools. We already know what Gorman has to offer. But this could be a win-win situation for all "NEVADA" high school football. Needless to say, there will be a few moments this fall where I swallow my pride and support all of the "NEVADA" football teams playing out-of-state opponents. Even the team wearing orange and blue.
I think "root for" is maybe too strong of a statement for rival teams, but if you're a Gorman fan, you should definately want Palo to win. Why? Because it makes You look better. When Alabama opens the season against Michigan, should Auburn and the rest of the SEC want Alabama to win? Absolutely! It makes their conference look that much better. And if Auburn goes onto beat Alabama later in the season, it makes them look real good! So as a Gorman fan, you don't need to break out your all black gear and panther pom-poms, but you should want Palo to win, because in the end it is only benefitting your team
Gang: I'm 100-percent certain that most in Vegas are rooting for Palo Verde -- including the folks at Gorman. It's about representing the Silver State. With that said, I hope everyone is equally supportive of Moapa Valley. They are a dynasty on their level and so proud to be part of this event.
Sinatra...my mistake for grouping fair weathered and arrogant, clearly they don't always go hand in hand. That I give you.
I am glad you noticed I am a fan of High School Football, not just Gorman. As an alum I love Gorman but don't root for them blindly, nor do I do so for anyone or anything. I too supported them in the stands in Arizona last season as well as in Reno for the State championship. I'll likely be there for Servite and have been at many many many games over the past decade, win-lose-or draw and without the kid on the team.
I understand your position of not wanting to cheer for Palo since your son, our team and a lot of others sons got the shaft while Palo goes. However that is no fault of the sons of Palo Verde. So rooting for them, 16 and 17 year old kids, to lose just seems pointless and ill willed to me. I am pretty certain even Gorman haters see the argument of Gorman and the other 5 teams that finished ahead of Palo getting the shaft.
Much like you, I too have that little devil on my left shoulder who would love to see Palo get blown out by 80 points and come home crying so we can say "I told you so". I would love to see Rost, wife, PV's AD and Principal regret sending their kids to get embarrased on a national stage. However the kids that worked as hard as your kids that didn't have any say in getting pick or Gorman getting screwed don't deserve that and ultimately it's about them.
More importantly though, the values of compassion, humility and respect that Bishop Gorman teaches or apparent taught, instilled in me the urge to wish Palo well. A safe trip, a safe game and safe return with a victory in tow.
And I agree with sportsarefun, i'm not saying paint your face black but if Palo goes down and wins or does well it just make Gorman look better when they beat them in the Sunset final this year. Palo winning on a national stage and Gorman beatin g them later does more for Gorman than Palo losing and getting the chance to say "we told you so".
Scrimmage tonight, wish we were scrimmaging someone other than ourselves to work the kinks out. Good Counsel will have had a pair of games by the time we play them.
Does anyone know if the game is going to be televised for those of us in Las Vegas to view? It would be a great win for Southern Nevada high school football if Palo can pull it off.
There are those who can't see the bigger picture. For the most adamant Gorman fan, Gorman will always be penalized for playing in what national media consider a "weaker" state. In a ten game regular season schedule, five to six games are in-state. Any time any Nevada team plays and wins an OOS game, it benefits Gorman and all Nevada based teams ("rising tide lifts all boats"). Sinatra, you want Palo and Liberty to win OOS, then you have a chance to play them and possible beat them. If you can't overtly support this, just back away from the computer and say nothing this week. Next week you can go back to your old self. Personally hoping Palo and Liberty success!
RayC--- won't be televised but will be streamed by the AIA (Arizona version of NIAA)
http://www.aia365.com/videos/815 PALO/Desert Vista
http://www.aia365.com/videos/814 Moapa Valley/BR
Oh Sinatra, forgot to say that i'm sorry the values Gorman taught me make me a traitor. I'd rather be a traitor to Gorman's football team than to Gorman's values.
Tuasdad, GC will have had two controlled scrimmages, not two games. I am sure you know they dominated in last Saturday's scrimmage. 28-0 at half with third team in most of second half. Very quick, very athletic but showed a little lack of discipline.
You are absolutely correct in that Gorman does not help itself with intra-squad scrimmages. This is the result of the CCSD principals "unwritten" policy of avoiding Gorman outside of league play. Imagine a 3 way Liberty / Palo / Gorman controlled scrimmage on a Saturday morning in early August. Would be great fun!
I did indeed read about the beat down they put on Eastern Christian, which rivals has ranked in top 100. I picked Gorman to lose by 10-14 to Good Counsel prior to Gorman getting blasted by Santa Margarita at 7 on 7 and GC blasting Eastern Christian in scrimmage. I am hoping I am wrong as i'd love to see us win out this season but that's what my unbiased mind says. I think our freshmen and jv are unfortunately in for a rude awakening when they play Santa Margarita's squads. Again i'd love to be wrong.
Thank for the correction I was under impression they had two actual games not scrimmages. Even so two scrimmages against other teams will prepare them better than our one against ourselves...C'est la vie.
Palo/Liberty/Gorman scrimmage would be awesome but would likely get out of hand and result in injuries. At least a scrimmage against teams without animosity like Foothill, Vegas or Arbor View would help and be realistic. Hell even a Utah or California team.
Sinatra, I'll feel bad for your son and his school when there playing on national TV 3 times, and when the they take that trip to Hawaii this fall.
Don't worry JJWARE, sinatras' kid never plays anyway. Just a kid that wants to wear a jersey and gets to watch from the sideline.
I hope all Nevada teams win, but this isn't the best year for them. Palo is not the Palo of old. Gorman not nearly as strong as use to be. Our Liberty is rebuilding cause we lost a lot to graduation. We did get some nice transfers but the jury is out til probably mid season. But it is exciting so many games OOS against good competition. If Nevada teams can win 2/3 of these games, I think that would be a big success. Everyone should pull for Nevada teams when playing OOS games. Also, good luck to Moapa as well.
No, online only at www.aia365.com.
Dear God,
Please give coach Rost the good sense to modernize that 8 page play book he has and represent the State of Nevada well.
Amen.
Ive been hearing that Palo will also be implementing a spread offense this season with a new qb who is very athletic and can really throw the ball. Is there any truth to this or is this just wishful thinking. Ive always felt that Palo, which year in and year out has always been strong defensively, could be a great high school team if they utilized their pool of talented skill players in a spread offense. Would be great to see them break it out against Desert Vista.
@lvfootballfun - That's a major insult to our Son who works hard to be on the team. Yes, he doesn't get to play much, but that doesn't mean he doesn't work hard. He loves the team environment and is being instilled with great work ethics. To demean him by saying he just wants to wear a jersey and watch on the sidelines is unacceptable. To say you don't like a school or a team is one thing, but to call out a hard working kid on 2nd/3rd string is BS. I'm looking forward to the Gorman/Liberty game this year....it won't even be close.
@tuasdad - I don't remember them teaching us to root for other schools? Your words...
"More importantly though, the values of compassion, humility and respect that Bishop Gorman teaches or apparent taught, instilled in me the urge to wish Palo well."
I too learned those values, but in my mind it doesn't mean cheer for an opposing school.
Today, the home page of the LV Sun has a countdown for the Sollenberger Classic and features PV with a countdown. I don't remember....did they do that for Gorman in past years? Since you follow HS Sports so closely, I'm just curious.
RayC, I hope your right and Rost comes out of the Pop Warner days. He better have a new QB. His son is a great kid but he is not a modern QB.
Sinatra.. they certainly didn't do that for us or Moapa last year. However I will chalk it up to the ever growing coverage of HSFB in this town. More people pay attention and there's more conversation and excitement for the season hopefully they do other similar excitement building countdowns for other games.
GHomer...he doesn't. I've not seen it but supposedly his son is a bit improved over summer. I think he'd probably be a fine qb for a lot of middle of the road programs in town but Palo has to have a better candidate that's getting passed up. Maybe.
Respecting Rost's wish for privacy as reported in the review journal i'll just wish him and his family luck with his medical issues.
Also for additional scrimmages
At Arbor View
Scrimmage today against Canyon Springs, Moapa Valley and Eldorado @ AVHS.
JV - 8AM
Freshman - 10AM
Varsity - 6:30PM
Also Foothill and Valley are scrimmaging but unk location of time.
just saw the front page header...Ray how come no love for Moapa?
Everyone seems to want Nevada HS football to be at the highest level possible.
Sadly, our one national power works against that. If talented athletes stayed at their home schools, all of the schools would be rewarded with stronger teams.
When you lose your best players to Gorman, your ability to compete suffers.
It also hurts the actual parochial school kids. If the blue chip recruits stayed at their zoned schools, a Catholic kid's hard work and dedication would be rewarded by playing football, instead of watching others play football.
If non-parochial kids stayed at their zoned schools we would have better football across the board. We just wouldn't have a National Level All Star team.
Foothill/Valley/Faith Lutheran tonight at 7pm @Valley High School.
Burgers75 you create an account, post your first comment and it gets removed all in a span of 10 minutes.. i'm curious now
Burger75, don't worry about Sinatra. Their kid is 4th string, never sniffs the field. They're just followers trying to jump on the gravy train.
Tuasdad, Durango looked strong this morning w all 3big backs running wild. GV look pretty good on offense. Very impressive and big O-line. Offense is very fun to watch even though no playmakers. Chap looks improve. Good that they moved in other division.
AV doesn't include Moapa. It's just the 3 teams, AV, CS, and Eldog
Liberty host legacy and Cheyenne
Del Sol host Silv, DP, and Shadow Ridge
Mohave host DO, Spring Valley and 1 other team
Not sure about rest
lvfootball...copy and paste mistake forgot to remove Moapa...speaking of, they had a great drive at the end of the first half to take control back and lost it when they got in the red zone. Ugh, was frustrating. Their QB Mortensen did absolutely run over a corner on a run during the drive which was nice to see. Was hoping they'd come out strong but now it's 20-8 with minutes left in the 3rd.
I saw a big of the second part of the Basic/Western/BC scrimmage. Notes:
Basic looked decent, a bit sloppy considering who they were scrimmaging but I got their late it may have been backups already. They did score at will against Western but so did BC, so no shocker there. Also it looked like Boyd but may have been another Basic WR (after getting a bit of a late hit) jumped up and took a swing at a western player. Refs called a flag but I was a bit surprised coach didn't go over and handle that.
BC had two good d-line guys that did very well against both Basic and Western.
Western had a coach who made Sanchez' sideline expletive filled rants at Gorman seem like etiquette lessons.
Tuasdad, hilarious last statement. And yes I agree on Moapa. They just didn't look ready to play a game this soon. Its bad when your center blows up your Qb.
@lvfootballfun - why don't you show up to a Gorman game and introduce yourself? I'd love to say "hello". Don't even talk smack about my kid....
Sinatra...before the Good Counsel game please make sure you go down to the field and let Starks, Smirk, Jones, Tillman, Britton, Singer and more know that they're traitors for rooting for Palo tonight. They can join this traitor in the stands. Better yet, you might want to wait until after the game we need them traitors on the field.
I'll agree to disagree. I've not and won't mention your kid as he's got nothing to do with your opinion which you have a right to, albeit wrong.
There was a lot of rivals wishing Palo well tonight and several Palo players doing the same right back stating they'll return the favor to their Gorman well wishers next week. That's called class. Drop the tough guy thing it's a bad look specially for a parent.
lvfootball...i'm hoping Liberty doesn't have the same opening game jitters as Palo/Moapa with penalties/rust since Crespi will be their first game and Crespi had a nice tune up tonight in AZ. Has Liberty had a scrimmage?
Sucks for Moapa even though Blue Ridge was clearly the better team, they were so close. If they would have been able to finish that great drive to end the half and likewise converted on 4th and goal then we'd be talking about a 7 point victory.
For Palo it's a shame all that hard work and talent was over shadowed by stupid penalties. Even with their limited QB play and penalties they were one bad call from making it a 2 point game. Hopefully they learned a good lesson and dust it off. Gorman did the same against DLS in 2010 and lost their cool and let it affect the game.
Upcoming scrimmages:
August 24th, C. Springs @ Centennial Jv/B @ 5 varsity @ 7.
Liberty @ Arbor View. Same times as above. This should be a good tune up for both.
Listen Sinatra, you brought your kid into this when you came on here and ripped Palo by saying they took this game tonight away from your kid and how he should get to play in this game. First, your kid has done nothing to deserve to play in this game. Lee Griggs works his butt off. Don't tell me your son deserves it more than he or several other Palo kids do. I am not a Palo fan but once the decision was made, I wished the best for them. I don't want to rip on a kid so I apologize to him for my comments. But as far as you are concerned, you are the exact type of parent that creates the type of hostility towards BG. But enough wasted time on you.
Tuasdad, we don't always agree but I respect your opinion. And i appreciate you care about the kids most of all. I was disappointed for Palo. I justdont think they were quite ready to play this game this quickly. Same with Moapa. I think they both could have used a scrimmage game first to work out the kinks. I don't want to get down on the qb. The kid played hard, and I've never heard anything other than he's a great kid. Throwing the ball at Palo is new. But I think they are moving in the right direction by opening up their offense more.
Sinatra771, you are way off on this one. Wishing Palo a win would not make you or any other Gorman person a traitor. Its called respect for other programs.Ucla doesn't root for USC but they respect each other , hell 90% of them know each other.And yes they do root for each other in bowl games. All teams root for their conference in bowl games. You think because Gorman is good that it brings respect to Nevada, it doesn't and it will never give Nevada respect until other teams from Nevada win outside of our state. The problem is you don't respect other programs. You believe you are the only team that works hard.Self entitlement,Gorman and Gorman alone is the only team that deserves anything to you, thats B.S. That is just not the truth. And yes they do recruit very hard. You don't build a program like that without recruiting. I can also prove everything I say. Ask you own coaches. And yes we all know the fix was in to get Palo the game, but to complain so hard when you have two nationally televised games, come on man! Dont be a hatter! You are so happy to beat up on teams you know you can beat, but when someone suggest you go and get in a league were you would fit , you cry foul, no we don't want to. If you are as bad as you say, go get in one of those California leagues with 5A teams , then come talk to me. Your admin doesn't want to and neither does your coach.
I hope you have more respect for others than you show, I will never say bad things about you because you are a Gorman person, but to look down at everyone else is wrong.