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UNLV Extras: Breaking down Marshall’s minutes and Moser’s role

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From left, UNLV’s Mike Moser, Anthony Marshall and Anthony Bennett watch a rebound during their game against UNR Tuesday, Jan. 29, 2013.

UNLV vs. UNR - Jan. 29, 2013

UNLV forward Khem Birch grabs a rebound from UNR guard Jerry Evans Jr. during their game Tuesday, Jan. 29, 2013 at the Thomas & Mack. UNLV won the game 66-54. Launch slideshow »

The odds that UNLV (17-4, 4-2) wins the rest of its road games are very slim. Still, the next couple of trips look a lot better than they used to.

On Saturday, the Rebels travel to Boise State (14-5, 2-3) and then next Wednesday, they travel to Fresno State (7-12, 1-5). The Broncos just lost by 16 on the road to the same middling UNR team the Rebels just beat by 12, and Fresno State is the only team in the league with a sub-.500 overall record.

Even the Feb. 23 trip to Wyoming doesn’t seem nearly as difficult after seeing how different the Cowboys are without suspended senior Luke Martinez.

The Rebels’ road struggles are too well known to chalk those up to victories, but the schedule looks better and better as the top four teams begin to separate themselves with Boise and Air Force jockeying for that fifth spot. The trip to Air Force on Feb. 13 is probably the toughest one left on the schedule, and the Rebels get all five of those teams — Air Force and Boise plus New Mexico, San Diego State and Colorado State — in the Mack.

Standing a .5-game back of the Lobos, the Rebels have as good a chance as anybody, and perhaps better than most, to win the league title. Now it’s about converting those chances.

Moser may be set in secondary role

Mike Moser's night started with a surprise move to the bench, and it didn’t get a whole lot better from there.

I’m of the mind that starting doesn’t matter so long as you play significant minutes — Moser played 23 against UNR. But there are a lot of players who feed off being out there at the beginning. Moser’s best games are usually the ones when the first play of the game is something drawn up for him.

He finished 1-for-6 shooting, including two missed 3-pointers. The upside is he still had two assists, a steal and seven rebounds, including three in the final four minutes.

The bottom line for Moser is this year hasn’t gone according to plan, and it’s probably too late to get back to those preseason expectations. That elbow injury was serious, and the effects linger both mentally and physically. His new reality going forward may be of a role player; do what he’s best at (rebounding), take a few shots when he’s open and contribute to games in any way possible.

Let’s not pretend that’s some terrible fate. It’s just not worthy of things like Mozilla.

Marshall’s minutes

Senior point guard Anthony Marshall came into Tuesday’s game leading the league in minutes per game and actually managed to increase his average by the end of the night.

Marshall is averging 37.2 minutes per game and played 38 in a 12-point home victory. Daquan Cook checked in for Marshall with 14:30 left in the second half and Marshall was back in the game for Cook at 13:32. In those 58 seconds, the lead had shrunk from 14 to nine courtesy of a Deonte Burton and-one layup — the foul was on Moser — and a Marqueze Coleman tip-in off an offensive rebound.

Burton played all 40 minutes for UNR. The difference is the Wolf Pack (11-9, 2-4) doesn’t have much to play for beyond the regular season.

The Rebels, however, have always had their eyes on March, when they’re going to want the best out of all their players. Can Marshall play his best at the end if he keeps up this minutes-per-game pace? It’s possible, but the odds are against it.

However, UNLV coach Dave Rice’s quote before this game about the issue comes to mind.

“I’m very mindful of making sure we have our legs down the stretch,” Rice said. “Having said that, the priority still has to be just trying to win our next game, whatever that takes.”

Against UNR, Rice saw a lead shrink by five in the one minute Marshall wasn’t on the floor. Does one necessarily equal the other?

Taylor Bern can be reached at 948-7844 or [email protected]. Follow Taylor on Twitter at twitter.com/taylorbern.

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  1. I agree with your analysis of both players and again don't understand why Goodman doesn't get some of Mosers minutes?

  2. I think UNLV fans are being fickle in their response to how Moser has played since coming back from his dislocated elbow. No one should have expected him to be 100% after sustaining that type of injury, and then missing practice time while recovering. He'll be fine, and I think he'll be back to his old form by the time the tournament comes around. I hope he finishes strong and ends up with a descent draft slot. I also hope UNLV fans remember that we owe it to him to stay loyal. After all, Moser could have bolted Las Vegas after last year and made a lot of money, but instead stayed loyal to us.

  3. A couple things this is a great opportunity to go on a roll. Embrace it we played all 3 teams from our conference last year that went to the NCAA tourney on the road and went 1-2 and no blowouts. SDSU and NM have to come to us. Because of injuries there are a lot of guys that have seen time.
    I know Moser hasn't found his way quite yet but he is a great player on the bench and has strong leadership qualities.He is a big positive.
    Savon yes hopefully he will get worked in there sooner than later much like Daquan did.
    NCAA Div I hoops guard play is so huge I wish we had another go to guy. Remember our 2007 run Umeh 5 years Wink 5 star stud started as a freshman due to Umeh's injury and Kevin Kruger 5 years.
    We're winning in half court games when guys want to slow us down those that run with us we beat them it's that zone that we have to learn how to adjust to.
    Home stretch should be fun!
    Go Rebs!

  4. I disagree with you Jean. The reason Moser stayed is because the pro scouts saw what most of us see. A slow 3 who cant guard the perimeter or shoot a high percentage from the field or the 3 point line. He came back to school because his draft prospectus was poor. Where does he fit in the NBA? He is a bench player at best. As far as UNLV is concerned if you will think back to last year he gave great effort but was poor offensively and turned the ball over a lot. He did rebound well, and was decent guarding the four as long as the four wasn't a physical player or long and athletic. He scored most of his points off alley oops and put backs. I know he is struggling with injuries and finding his role but, you are seeing the reasons he didn't fit at UCLA. When surrounded by better talent he isn't a viable option. He should come off the bench and provide some energy and rebounding. Offensively he is probably our 4th or 5th option, he's behind Bennett, Jones, Marshall, and maybe even Birch/Reinhardt.

  5. Always will have a soft spot for Mike for his performance last year against North Carolina, but I have to agree with the assessments made here. Most of his deficiencies (slow, unable to guard athletic big men, average perimeter game, etc,) would be cancelled if he were just more careful with the ball. His effort is not in question, kid gives 100% every play, just stop/cut down the careless passes he could still be a decent NBA player. I am beginning to wonder why Goodman doesn't get some of his minutes.

  6. I just hope Goodman isn't thinking about transferring because of his lack of minutes this year. I really enjoyed watching him this summer and during the Canada games. He has a lot of potential...

    We all knew this would be a problem, having such a deep bench, lots of players are hardly touching the floor (i.e. Carlos Lopez-Sosa, Savon Goodman, DaQuan Cook).

    I'm personally concerned with Bryce on offense. He still looks erratic and out of control when he puts the ball on the court takes too many selfish shots when he doesn't have an open look.

    That being said, his defense is bettER and his rebounding is one of the reasons UNLV is top 10 in the nation on the boards.

  7. I think it would be best if Moser came off the bench. Start Birch and Bennett, and sub in Moser for one of them. I think that Moser can only play the four on defense because of athletic limitations. That would be a very good three man rotation in my opinion.

    I kind of hope Moser doesn't come back next season because I don't think he fits in at all with this roster. The only thing he brings right now is rebounding, and he is ineffective if he doesn't have the ball on a consistent basis.

  8. I agree with you Phillips. I am especially worried about Goodman. I hope Rice is in conversation with him regularly.There must be some disconnect between Goodman and the scheme or his attitude? Something has to be going on. Unless, Rice is just married to Moser because of last year?

  9. Were you guys not watching the non-conference games? Goodman can be really great or he can make really really bad plays. Guys on the team have publicly stated that once it clicks for him, he will be a force to be reckoned with. I too wonder why he isn't getting into the games when we have a comfortable lead, but then again, in conference play I'm not really sure what a comfortable lead is. I also worry about whether or not he will stick around, which I hope he does, but I'm not surprised that he's not getting any PT.

  10. 1. Rice is being loyal to Moser.
    2. Goodman was told he wasn't going to play this year before he signed.
    3. Goodman turns the ball over way to much and seems in over his head when he plays.

  11. To all of those who think Goodman is going to transfer: I highly doubt it. As patticcus has correctly stated, Goodman was told the playing time wouldn't be significant. It wouldn't make sense for him to come here knowing he won't play much the first year and then transfer for more playing time. So, I would be very surprised if he transferred.

  12. Moser going to the NBA- Really?? Come on guys- he is really just a bench player for US. They guy will have to play the 3 position in the NBA and as of now he can't even play it against college kids. Moser will be back next year and then off to Europe.

  13. rose1414 (aj foyt) - Moser is on track to graduate in the spring, so he may want to play pro ball as early as next season.

  14. I agree with what you guys are saying about Goodman. My point is we all say the same things about Moser, so why not start Goodman for four years and let him progress with the other Freshmen. He is already a more physical player than Moser and a better defender. He does turn it over too much which can be said for the team as a whole. I just believe when you have two players of equal ability you play the younger player for the long term benefits it brings to the program.