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twitterPolice arrest mother of girl, 15, in relationship with soccer coach
Daughter told police her mother approved of relationship, but mother denies it
Friday, Oct. 23, 2009 | 1:49 p.m.
Gabriel G. Lopez
Sun Coverage
Henderson Police have arrested the mother of a 15-year-old girl who was in an ongoing sexual relationship with a soccer coach.
The private soccer club coach, 40-year-old Gabriel G. Lopez of Las Vegas, was booked Wednesday on 11 counts of statutory sexual seduction, Henderson Police said.
A Henderson police officer spotted a black Chevy Tahoe parked in a dark area of the Arroyo Grande Sports Complex parking lot about 10:30 p.m. Tuesday, police said. The officer found a man and a girl inside the vehicle and the girl said she had had sexual relations with Lopez since June.
Police said that the alleged sexual relationship is believed to be consensual, the girl had not reached the age of consent, which is 16 years under state law.
After Lopez and the girl gave police separate interviews to the police, the girl told police that her mother approved of the relationship. "Love only comes around once," she quoted her mother as saying.
The girl also told police that her mother also said, "You can't deny love. You never know who it will be," according to a police report.
The girl told police that her mother suggested Lopez provide a second cell phone to the girl, so her father would not find out about the relationship, the report said.
According to the mother's interview with police, she denied approving of her daughter's relationship with Lopez, and told her to end the affair.
The mother is facing a felony charge of child abuse, neglect or endangerment.
Police are asking that anyone with information about Lopez or this case to call detectives at (702) 267-4773, or to remain anonymous, call Crime Stoppers at (702) 385-5555.
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Shame on Ballistic Soccer Club for putting people like this around small children. Do the clubs do background checks? Leagues supposedly do, but places like the Las Vegas Indoor center do not.
The mother should indeed be locked up for allowing this to happen. It also might help save her from the abuse her husband is pretty ready to throw her direction for her involvement in this.
http://www.eteamz.com/BSO/
He's on the back row, fourth from the right.
Any sex between a 40 year old man and a 15 year old girl has nothing to do with love, Nabokov notwithstanding.
Background checks don't pull up who you have relationships with, you idiot.
How is it that the daughter can make allegations that her mother approved of this relationship without evidence? If that's the case a lot of parents should start drawing up contracts stating that they don't want their 15 year olds going out with 18 year olds, just in case the 15 year old decides what's best for them self and decides to put the parent in jail. What's also odd is a cop pulls up to the SUV and the 15 year old just blurts out that she's sleeping with this 40 year old knowing the consequences? Something doesn't add up. Granted the two adults involved lacked the mental capacity to foresee that these relationships never last.
VegasVegas -- 15 is hardly a small child.
Why exactly should this mother be locked up? Who was hurt?
All this fuss about people's private lives. "1984" anyone?
Maybe I missed it, but surely this man(?) is under the jail right?
KillerB...the guy is nothing more than a child molester and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
theone1 -- your kind of thinking is boorish, if it's thinking at all. You should check the link to the original story and have a look at some of what it's like to be suspected because of your age, race and genitalia (might be too big a word for you -- "junk"?).
Strong possibility he was set up. Let's see what the facts bring in as the story develops.
This is simply confusion about the age of consent. In Mexico, Quinceanera is the coming out celebration for a girl who turns 15. Obviously, Mr. Lopez and the girl's Mother thought the same age definition applied here in the States. Maybe the girl's Mother was a recent arrival to our country.
So I think we should give Mr. Lopez a break, and drop all charges....
Killer, if 15 is still a child and this guy could have been around any age. As a part of the club these coaches do clinics and other events for children of all ages. Make sure you think things out before you just go off correcting people.
And thekube isn't even worth responding to. Background checks are often not performed at the club level. Let's see if they did his.
Adults need to act like adults. Fifteen year-old children aren't ready for all the responsibility, dangers, risks, and emotional costs that come along with having sex. An adult may be able to divorce themselves from any of the emotion complexities involved -ie, treat it as "casual sex." But not 15 year-olds. And what if this coach gives her a disease? What if he makes her pregnant?? Why am I even having to pose these questions?? I know from previous discussions that KillerB is anti-intellectual and can't be relied upon for honesty in a debate. So his commentary is to be dismissed. But surely the rest of us can see how this easily can end badly for a child having sex, especially with an adult in his 40's. There are very good reasons this is illegal and taboo behavior.
There's that Mormon smell again. Grow your own! I have personally seen Mormons in Venezuela and Colombia.
Hey icdrmandingonamvet: What your kidding me' I thought most of them lived on your street. LOL
"Any sex between a 40 year old man and a 15 year old girl has nothing to do with love...."
burnemandturnem -- shows how little you know of humans and their relationships.
VegasVegas -- then you should be more clear in your posts. And my counter-post to yours wasn't correction, it was a counter-point based on our different opinions. Good one though for pointing out how posters aren't really looking at the story before posting -- some seem to be confused about who Lopez worked for.
nednougat -- that's assuming this "victim" was Hispanic. Good point about different cultures. The ignorance of this herd is exceeded only by its cultural arrogance. Maybe that's part of the "American values" our military is forcing on the rest of the world.
DTJ -- what "children" are you talking about? As a poster on the other thread has pointed out quite lucidly, age is just a number. I've met 15 yo far more mature than some twice their age.
As for your opinion about my posts -- opinions vary. And my opinion is your post translates to "baaaaaaaa...baaaaaaa..." I look forward to messing with your expectations of "intellectual," "honesty" and "debate."
lcdrmandingonamvet -- give your bigotism as rest. It would be tiring if it was even relevant here.
Let's not forget what's obviously in these two articles -- look at the havoc wreaked by one 15 yo's mouth.
Hopefully how police handled "you have the right to remain silent..." will be highlighted.
Is there a good reason that we have not seen the mother's picture yet? She was arrested,right? What gives? Let's see that mugshot. Anyone know her name yet? Is the team practicing today? When is their next game?
Ds_Gentle_Master -- you definitely made one of the better observations on here.
Apparently only adult males are to be put in the pillory, despite the fact our justice system presumes innocence. If you're male, DGM, how's it feel to be part of a suspect class? Check out the link to the other thread on this case -- the plumbing you were born with determines guilt when seen in the vicinity of children of any age.
Quinceanera, Really! Maybe that's why they have 5 children before their 20. Any parent that would let their 15 year old be with a 40 year old man is either really ignorant or just want's the child out of the house as soon as possible. To the idiot who said "I've met 15 year olds who were more mature than 30 year women" You have to wonder,Where does this person meet people with such attributes?
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dingo: I once heard a rumor that Neil Bush is a closet Mormon. Can you investigate this?
Go to the link in the first comment and check out those kids. A nice looking bunch but how YOUNG do they look? Very young. Then return to the article and look again at Coach Frankenwennie. Some needs to take a beating.
rsm45va -- why exactly are you suggesting anyone "needs to take a beating"? Apparently for just being in a picture.
Judging from his mug-shot. Naive 15 yr olds are probably
the only women he can convince to sleep with him.
Desert_Rat -- you should look up pillory. Then maybe the Golden Rule. Then pray you never get the attention of a 15 yo girl.
There goes his "Coach of the year" award jus sir
killer blowhard, you are such a pedantic pro-pedophile bore. "like Epictetus once said". god, what a geek. hey everyone, don't let killer nitwit call you irrelevant, that could really hurt your self esteem. get a life, loser.
Bam1969,
KillerB has an track record. I'd compare him with anarchists and misopedists, but that wouldn't be fair to anarchists and misopedists. Basically, B is supporting pedophilia. He also doesn't believe the millions of children in this nation doing without health care should be a concern. And he's made some other whacko claims about it being unconstitutional for President Obama to accept the Nobel Peace Prize (whether or not one thinks Obama should have been awarded the prize -and he, himself, has said he doesn't deserve it- accepting it is NOT unconstitutional). The B's of this world are hazardous to the health and well-being of society; their anti-social and anti-intellectual ideas need to be confronted and cut off at the pass. Fortunately, this is extremely easy for any of us to do, as B is no match for anyone with half a wit.
bam1969, DTJ -- opinions vary. You won't get respect from me here. So mooooo on.
If the coach is a seducer, the "no name" mother an abuser, the adolescent a loser, what do you call a peeping cop?
A hero?
: )
Here is an excerpt from the Ballistic Soccer website:
"If you or somone[sic] you know is looking for a Coaching staff that has decades of player and Coaching experience, seeking very professional and organized Management, and desires to be involved in a positive environment where longevity is a major ingredient to our success for a fun and family oriented atmosphere because of support from all of our families, look no further. Come over to where the players are players, not clients - Ballistic Soccer... Feel the Impact!"
I like the motto "Feel the Impact!" but, I doubt parents expect their kids to be 'feeling the impact!"
Giggity
Some call it a debutante (young women reaching maturity) ball; I guess it all depends on what side of the economic fence you stand. The custom of introducing up and coming young ladies to society has a long and colorful history in Americana culture. Sometimes even young men may have a similarly so called ball, which introduces them into social circles. The United States, England, Ireland and Australia all have variations of the debutante ball.
In the United States, a debutante ball is also sometimes called a cotillion or a coming-out party. American debutante balls may be quite elite and formal with a receiving line of debutantes all in white gowns. Quite often though, a debutante was a young woman, 16 (sweet) to 21 (maid) ready to look for a husband.
And since the day of femininity that is purely ornamental and utterly useless is gone by, it is the girl who does things well who finds life full of interests and of friends and of happiness.
There always are and doubtless always will be any number of women to whom admiration and flirtation is the very breath of their nostrils, who love to parade a beau just as they love to parade a new dress. But the tendencies of the time do not encourage the flirtatious attitude. It is not considered a triumph to have many love affairs, but rather an evidence of stupidity and bad taste.
America has always been a little less refined, but none the less relevant without Royalty, it is just that in to-days America our young people are not getting the proper guidance at home which they need to be successful in the world of social graces and entertaining.
Please this is a no brainer !! Jail time for Lopez and the mother....15 is jail bait
Babyboomer -- do reality and truth matter to you? Or is it just a clever "me too" for the herd's enjoyment?
Sex is not a dirty word, Sex with a minor is illegal.
As they say.....
"15" will get you ..."twenty"
All this fuss, so many threats, so much moral steadfastness, by all these (presumably) adults for what one 15 yo allegedly said. It's just too tempting to *not* mess with the herd!
Does LE have any eveidence?
killerb and like mined thinkers, try going to prison and voiceing your views on the yard and see just how long your man-hood stays connected to your body
Now KillerB is attempting to shift his stance from one that supports pedophilia, to (presumably) one that is making a stand for the accused rights in the face of the "herd." My record on these forums is well established as a defender of the rights of an accused to their day in court. If this 40 year-old man is found to actually not have to have been committing statutory rape against the 15 year-old child, then so be it. May he be exonerated. But if he is guilty, throw the book at him.
But all that notwithstanding, KillerB is a phony, an advocate of pedophilia, and furthermore, is completely losing his marbles in front of us all.
To me he proclaims: "You won't get respect from me here."
Who cares about respect from the likes of YOU??? BLECHHHH!!!
To Babyboomer, he says: "Do reality and truth matter to you?"
Folks, this is irony in Orwellian proportions. Somebody shove some smelling salts up this self-deluded, self-indulgent individual's nose. Not because his warped ideas could possibly influence anybody, at this point. Do it for his own good.
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Still waiting for the killerb idiot to tell us where he meets the 15 year old child that's more together than the 30 year old woman. Where,the mall,The park ,The skating rink! People like you would not last one minute in my or my friend's world! It's quite obvious with your mind set anything goes,Your a punk!
Curious to know how old KillerB's girl friend is.
Maybe the cops need a peek at his downloads. You think?
StanG -- you'll never know. It's called "privacy," a concept completely lost on this bunch. And for the cops, there's still the 4th Amendment.
Considering how reasonable most of your posts usually are -- unless I'm confusing you with someone else -- this kind of immature post is beneath you. When did your IQ drop and make you decide the herd is worth pandering to?
"Fame is the noise of madmen." -- Marcus Aurelius, 2nd century Roman Emperor
It's about that time for you KillerB. You've humiliated yourself enough, here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWamxEDcq...
DTJ - no.
"No?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zx8DGD-K...
And the Parent-of-the-Year award goes to......
DTJ, well done. We have crossed swords in the past but nice to see you are taking killer to task.
Killer, you say I am irrelevant. Do you actually think the opinion of a pedo is relevant to me?
Keep defending the guy for the mistaken, total police setup/sting operation, involving a fifteen year old girl and keep bleating about how mature she can be. Your IQ is taking an obvious beating. Maybe that's why you are "B"; never could get the "A", huh?
BTW, where is Pagan and why doesn't he have your "back"? Is he too old for you?
Obama and the Democrats should come out and join ranks with killer8 and say that 40 years old have a Constitutional right to have sex with 14, 13, or 12 year olds.
This is how they envision the future of America.
Addressing the story itself and not culture and politics... the law for having sex with a minor is very clear. From some of the comments, I assume that some are saying that it's OK in the Spanish culture?
Breaking the law and morals seem to have broken down in the United States. Politicians break the law on an ongoing basis. Look at Charlie Rangeland Barney Frank, or Murtha to name a few. On the other side, lots of Republicans having sex with other men. And besides the total lack of morals in the financial industry, parents like the one in the story doesn't care about her daughter. A guy 40 years old just wants to get off on a kid. They have nothing in common. Maybe she wants the kid to stay on the soccer team?
I think he should be prosecuted to the full extent,15 year olds can't have consentual sex.What makes a 40 year old do something like this.If your 40 you need to aleast date someone that is 18 so you don't go to prison for it.I'm sure when the Officers rolled up and noticed how young this girl is,that's when the questions started to fly.Metro sees a lot of this I'm sure.Good job guys.Now put this piece in jail where he belongs.
SgtRock/jfnance32 -- as if I'd take that bait.
You and your ilk are too much like little kids taunting on a grade school playground, like this is a name-calling contest. Once you leave reasonable discourse and devolve into trying to get personal with me, and anyone else who dares to disagree with you, then you cease to matter either to me or this Discussion. The glimmer of reason and maturity you occasionally show may give hope, but then your egos take over again and then its back to these childish posts. That's what I mean about you becoming irrelevant. I really don't care what you say or do after that.
they probably did do a background check, but most people comming to this country dont have a background to be traced, only u.s. born citizens can be traced, thats why they get the jobs that I cant because I have been in trouble years ago and they can trace my history, but on the other hand, people comming from mexico, the fillipeans, and other so called 3rd world countries, they get the credit,and the loans, because they have no credit history.
"Breaking the law and morals seem to have broken down in the United States."
bruce987 -- if you care to, read the posts (at least the ones you can stomach) from this and the link under Lopez' picture. The real issues are 1) Lopez is only accused, 2) the police are acting on what a 15 yo girl tells them, 3) the laws the police are acting on are being actively questioned, and 4) arresting a parent for what the kid allegedly did seems too much of a stretch even for Henderson police.
Way too much we forget we're citizens, fully vested in our rights and the source of all government authority, not kids who have to do what mommy and daddy tell them to. To bring in morals shows the flaw of law and the thinking behind it -- you'll see the minor discussion on the U.S. Supreme Court's Lawrence v. Texas where that state's sodomy laws were struck down. Some of that actually applies here.
"...15 year olds can't have consentual [sic] sex."
mk1234 -- and your post, like so many others, completely ignores nature and reality. I encourage you to step back and reconsider your post after asking why government can replace parents about when their own kid is ready for it.
To everyone using the word "pedophile" FYI- by definition pedophile means someone who has sex with pre-pubescent children. This girl does not fit that description. Still creepy though.
buzzbomb -- excellent point you make here. But you should check your definitions. "Paedophile" is a Greek word literally describing ANYONE who loves children -- like a "bibliophile" is anyone who loves books. Besides parents and grandparents, that would include just about everyone here - judging from their knee-jerk posts and threats to anyone disagreeing with them. The only one popular with this herd is the child molester variant.
killer8 is soooooooo smart.
He is the only true authority on the law in the entire universe.
I doubt that he can find one single congressman, governor, US senator, Federal judge or Sumpreme court judge that agrees with his statement that have 40 year-olds have a Constitutional right to have sex with minors under the age of 16.
But that of course can't mean that he is wrong.
He is a genius. The smartest man in the universe...all those people are just dumb.
They need to take a killer8 law class and then they can be smart.
"In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King" is there more to the story out there than what is being posted by the sun? Or have a few choice bloggers on this thread become so red-eyed with hate that they have lost sight of the meaning- due process of the law.
I side with the law; I have only one problem with the punishment phase of our justice system. The truth in sentencing, where some children can abuse the privilege of age, when by-and-large, some children use the cloak of age for their sinister advantage.
KillerB, I'm glade America still has some cool-heads that prevent hate-crimes, or ramped mobs would be dolling out expedient justice, as is the case in other countries where it is common place to have honor-killings.
I am truly amazed at how people view age in our country, as though one day or one year can make a difference between legality. We journeyed these cross-roads in the 60' when young 18 year old men where carried of to war but could still not legally enjoy a beer until their 21st birthday. America has more work to do on the application of the law when considering age and all its legal ramifications; ultimately it would be in the interest of justice that all torts involving a minor be tried by a jury.
Imagine that for a moment, a jury of one's peers, a minor, of say age 14 commits a crime, would then be tried by 14 year olds, what a concept, albeit naive, to think 14 year olds could comprehend the gravity of their decision, which could mean a life time of freedom or jail. I submit, the idea of peers was meant to mean citizens without convictions, and only women, no slaves, or Indians either, as was the norm of what American society was composed of then. I digress.
Let due process of the law prevail, I too am very enthralled to find out the facts of this social drama, but to convict someone without their day in court smacks of a retarded time in America, not the present progressive thinking society I believe we have evolved into.
"We journeyed these cross-roads in the 60' when young 18 year old men where carried of to war but could still not legally enjoy a beer until their 21st birthday."
Gunslinger -- and here we are forty years later. That situation hasn't really improved, has it?
Excellent point about "honor-killings." The same people so rabid here with their threats are the same ilk decrying Muslims as terrorists in other threads. Apparently there's not enough mirrors in their lives.
That is why every business should do a background check that includes searching for registered sex offenders. Ofcourse, if they are not registered or first time offenders...what can you do?!
Gunslinger,
Who are the opponents of "due process of the law?" I, for one, clearly stated that the accused deserves his day in court.
The fact is, KillerB supports and gives succor to pedophilia. (And to those of you making the stupid, diversionary argument about the meaning of "pedophile," "pedophilia," or these words similar but distinctly different meanings from their Greek root; back here where we speak English, Merriam Webster defines a pedophile as "one affected with pedophilia." Pedophilia, in return, is "sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object."
Fifteen year-olds may not be toddlers, but they are still children. And they need to be protected from adults that would prey upon them. The rest of the arguments are phony. KillerB is such a phony himself, who supports pedos and what they do to our children.
congratulations, gunslinger! after a quote about the 60's and young 18 year old men(?), killerb has astutely recognized an "excellent point" you made regarding "honor-killings". maybe you two should make out now.
I can't believe anyone of you is attempting to carry on a conversation with these lunatic liberals. It doesn't matter what anyone says to these mindless trolls, they'll lie or make some excuses to justify their sick minds.
We know she is 15 and he is 40, this alone says it all for those of us with morals and decency. For the trolls it isn't his fault and it doesn't matter the age of the girl. Democrats support and practice the sickest immoral sexual behavioral pattern known to mankind so whatever this may seem to be on the surface to normal people; in their eyes it's okay.
KillerB fancies himself as a somekind of magical fairy, dismissively waving his fairy's wand and casting spells upon people, saying, "I don't respect you, and I don't respect you, and I don't respect you..." but then, "Ooooh, GUNSLINGER! You're my HERO!"
Its2Hot,
When you're right, you're right (no pun intended). Though I don't think that most Democrats would support this depraved kind of thinking, either. But as you point out, we really don't even need to be engaging with this kind of clear nonsense, at this point.
DJT:
I don't know about that, I can only think of all the times I've been in anywhere in California or any other Democrat controlled area; I have yet to visit or hear of one place that doesn't support same sex marriage, promote sick sexual tendencies, and want to remove all rights away from normal working class people to further their sick moral agenda.
I for one would like to hope that some of them do have morals and beliefs that most people could consider normal, maybe one day I'll come across just one Democrat with some good qualities and just maybe then I can see them differently. Until this time occurs, I just can't seem to stomach any belief they support or practice.
Watch them speak on TV and their followers who speak on TV or watch them in the communities, please tell me of just one with decency or morals that somebody could be proud of? Just one and really look at that person and what they support, I'm still kind of young so if takes a few dozen years, I have the time.
Considering the current split in voter registrations between Rep. and Dem. you may have a long wait.
look at this dude. he couldn't get any sex unless paying for it. mommy was probably trying to make an extra buck selling her kids off.
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Sergio,
If in fact he did as he is accused, whether the 40 year-old found a girl who already had had sex or not, HE was using her for sex. Her degree of alacrity can be one mitigating circumstance come sentencing time, but he still gets locked up. Adults have to be adults and protect children -not use them. As for what some poll says about teenage sex in Mexico, I could care less. I do not believe this coach didn't know what he was doing was dangerous and illegal HERE. You come to our country -get with the program. We don't tolerate the raping of children here. Otherwise, by your logic female circumcision/mutilation (practiced in central Africa) is next on the slippery slope of cultural relativism.
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bam1969:
Your need to disparage "maybe you two should make out now" bloggers speaks volumes about how your inner child plays on the white board, to disagree about an issue or even to agree on an issue is a personal perspective, for you to bump it up another notch and address me negatively or anyone opens up a negative dialog.
I understand you only mean to attack KillerB, but can you find a commendable position of substance to do so, without trying to bully me. I assure you, I recognize your position albeit not one I would stand-up for. Don't hate out of failure to understand others, seek to understand and improve your perspective form people with different life experiences or ideas.
I don't presume to have all the answers you need, but if you can find a kernel of new thought in anyone's post, embraces it, this is a moment of learning for you. I have been lucky enough to experience those moments myself and look forward to reading your insight on issues in the future as well.
Where is the Father in all of this?
DJT,
I'd like to think that people in prison were sent their because they harmed someone (the victim). I just don't see a victim here, or anyone hurt, except of course the feelings of the overly religious or uptight.
Hey bigb? take a hike.
How do you even know this fella is an illegal?
Seriously, idiotic comments like this make me think that cleansing of idiots is a good thing.
Is it because of his name or the way he looks? Oh you're not used to seeing someone who isn't white.. I'm sorry, I bet you hate Obama too!