Sunday, May 10, 2009 | 2 a.m.
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- Legislators fail to make cuts in higher education budget (5-8-2009)
- Leader still wants broad tax (5-5-2009)
- Salary cuts, furloughs OK’ed in budget deal (5-4-2009)
- A job you don't want: Projecting the state's revenue now (5-2-2009)
- State falls $550 million short in funding governor's budget (5-1-2009)
- In Henderson, Gibbons reiterates his anti-tax stance (5-1-2009)
- To be clear, Gibbons is against tax increases (5-1-2009)
- Gibbons to propose more salary cuts, says he'll veto tax hikes (4-30-2009)
- Lawmakers eye county dough (4-30-2009)
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The big legislative news last week came when subcommittees voted to set spending levels for sections of the budget.
The votes happened in public, but with little drama. The real work to build the consensus had taken place in hours of closed-door meetings.
The public never sees the true debate over Nevada’s future, which has occurred this session in “core group” meetings, where legislators of both parties hammer out deals.
In Carson City, cries for openness are often met with eye rolls.
Lawmakers say they would never finish their work under the biennial, 120-day limit for legislative sessions if budgets were debated in public.
“In an ideal world, every issue would be debated and voted on in public,” said Assemblywoman Sheila Leslie, D-Reno, a core group member. “Instead, we have 63 members with 63 views ... There’s not enough time. People don’t speak as freely and frankly in public.”
Senate Minority Leader Bill Raggio, R-Reno, said the closed meetings have been taking place since before he was elected to the Senate in 1973.
“You can’t get 63 people in one room and hash out a budget with special interests hovering over us,” Raggio said. “If this was done in the open, we’d be here another two months.”
Jim Richardson, a veteran of the process and lobbyist for the Nevada Faculty Alliance, describes himself as “a bit of a transparency nut.” Doing business in the open, he said, might prevent some of the messier compromises — the horse-trading to get bills passed or killed, budgets funded, or projects built in particular districts.
“We talk about hostages, big hostages, little hostages,” Richardson said. “They work out trades, and that’s hard to do in the public.”
Still, Richardson acknowledged, “if they did all this in the open, it would take forever.”
Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford, D-Las Vegas, denied it’s a closed process, because the final votes are made in public.
“Part of our job as leaders is talk to each other, work out differences,” Horsford said. “If it was truly closed, we’d not be having this discussion right now. It’s just that the process is streamlined from what otherwise would take months and months to do.”
Though expedient for lawmakers, the closed meetings keep many of the details of their negotiations a secret.
Some of the proposals are leaked to reporters. A little over a week ago, sources confirmed to the Las Vegas Sun where they were on a tax package and likely cuts. Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford later told the Sun he was still pushing a corporate income tax.
Still, the press corps spent much of the week loitering outside conference rooms, the core group inside and the smell of important decisions in the air.
When legislators emerged, they scurried to the elevators or the sanctuary of their offices, followed by reporters asking: “Is there consensus?”
“What’s the number?”
In response came pat answers: “We’re making progress.”
By Friday, higher education was the only budget lawmakers hadn’t agreed on.
Sources said it was getting rancorous in the room. Some wanted another $35 million for colleges and universities. Others want to keep the imminent tax package as small as possible.
The meeting dragged on.
Finally, Raggio emerged. “The speaker will have a statement,” was all he would say.
Sen. Warren Hardy emerged and gave the same response. A reporter, trying to get a different answer, asked what color the sky was.
“The speaker will have a statement.”
Reporters went back to waiting. After a while it was evident Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley had slipped out a side door.
The now-cranky press pack made its way to her office. Eventually Buckley came out and announced there was no agreement on the higher education budget.
“We’ll come back on Monday,” she said, dodging further questions.
For those trying to find out what had gone on behind closed doors, it was back to making phone calls, stopping lawmakers in the halls, talking to anyone who could shed some light on the process.







There may be a law being broken. Something about open meetings as for doing state business.
Regarding the Nevada Open Meeting Law - The law does not apply to the state legislature. Bill Raggio is correct; if the meetings were held in the open with "Paid Lobbyists" hovering over head it would make the job so much more difficult.
Being a state legislator is a humbling job. You run for an office that pays nothing, you sacrifice your sanity for 4 months in Carson City all for the good of a people who only criticize your every decision. Public service is very humbling...
Assemblywoman Sheila Leslie, D-Reno, said "People don't speak as freely and frankly in public."
Citizen of Nevada will not know what they are voting on until long after the lawmakers have stuck it to us.
Just raise taxes on some more rich people. That always helps
These legislators are clueless. It serves Nevada right if Gibbon's vetoes their budget and they can't override him - although I doubt that'll occur. Gibbons is equally clueless - ranting his no taxes pledge in a futile attempt for reelection. The much-trumpeted SAGE commission and the budget office has never talked with "front line" state workers - right on down to the janitors and file clerks. Those workers could've given these so-called decesion makers and the governor an earful and solid information on what could and should be cut. Instead the commissions and budget offices talked only with department heads - who, given human nature, protected themselves first and foremost. They made certain their immediate underlings, assistants and prized support staff remained intact.
The entire Nevada employee payroll system is on the honor system - believe it or not. I can assure you the top department heads and their immediate staff have already calculated the 4.6% decrease in pay in hours "worked." For those hours you'll find them taking two hour lunches and regular early outs and "forgetting" to code that on their payroll submissions. Oh, overtime pay remains the same.
I can honestly report that layoffs - of at least 10% of the non-education state work force would not have caused even a flutter in public services.
It's a real shame we have to tolerate this governor and his total lack of leadership and inability to communicate.