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Sarah Palin waves to her fans at the “Showdown in Searchlight” Tea Party Express rally just outside Searchlight on Saturday, March 27, 2010.
By J. Patrick Coolican (contact) 
, Michael Mishak
Published Saturday, March 27, 2010 | 2:05 a.m.
Updated Saturday, March 27, 2010 | 4:22 p.m.
Tea Party: "Showdown in Searchlight"
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The Tea Party Express buses kicked off their latest national road trip Saturday with a rally in Sen. Harry Reid's hometown of Searchlight, Nev., which only has a population of 700. Sarah Palin gave the keynote address to the thousands who showed up for the "Showdown in Searchlight."
Jon Ralston on Showdown in Searchlight
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Jon Ralston discusses the Showdown in Searchlight on KVBC News.
YouTube: Sarah Palin's Searchlight Speech
Sun archives
- Harry Reid’s tiny town bracing for Tea Party ‘showdown’ (3-26-10)
- Applying ‘socialist’ label a hot campaign ploy, but will it work?" (3-26-2010)
- Harry Reid’s gun party competes with Searchlight tea party (3-24-2010)
- Gibbons seeks donations, offers trip to tea party (3-18-2010)
- The Tea Party’s (old) paranoia (1-24-2010)
Sun Coverage
Saturday schedule
Supporters begin to gather at parking lot of Harrah’s Laughlin.
Expected departure time of caravan of vehicles from Laughlin to Searchlight. The caravan will be led by the official Tea Party Express buses.
Expected arrival time of Tea Party Express caravan at the Searchlight rally site.
“Showdown in Searchlight” Tea Party rally. Location: near U.S. 95 and Coyote Mine Road.
Expected departure time of the Tea Party Express caravan from Searchlight to Henderson.
The prerally at Henderson Pavilion has been organized by Grassroots Nevada in support of the Tea Party Express.
Conservative author and commentator Ann Coulter will speak at the rally to welcome the Tea Party Express to Henderson.
Expected arrival time of the Tea Party Express caravan at the Henderson Pavilion (final Tea Party rally of the day). Location: 200 S. Green Valley Parkway.
SEARCHLIGHT -- Sarah Palin told thousands of tea party activists gathered in the Nevada desert that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will have to explain his votes when he comes back to his hometown.
The wind whipped U.S. and Alabama flags behind Palin as she stood on the makeshift stage, holding a microphone and her notes as she spoke to the crowd.
Palin says the big government, big debt spending spree of Reid, President Barack Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is over, and "you're fired." She told the crowd that Reid is "gambling away our future."
"Someone needs to tell him, this is not a crapshoot," Palin said.
She says those protesting the health care overhaul aren't inciting violence, but says they shouldn't sit down and shut up.
Palin was the main attraction at the rally. It kicks off a 42-city bus tour that ends in Washington on April 15.
Reid responded Saturday through a statement released by his campaign.
"I'm happy so many people came to see my hometown of Searchlight and spend their out-of-state money, especially in these tough economic times," Reid said. "This election will be decided by Nevadans, not people from other states who parachuted in for one day to have a tea party."
Thousands gathered on a dirt lot in Reid's hometown for what organizers are calling the "Showdown in Searchlight."
The Tea Party Express had expected between 5,000 and 10,000 people. About 8,000 people were at the event as of 2 p.m., according to an estimate from Metro Police spokesman Jay Rivera. Traffic at one time was backed up about five miles from Searchlight.
Police said there were no arrests at the event, but police did briefly detain one person who had a gun in an open holster. Police also said they responded to one medical call for an person having a seizure at the event.
Cars and RVs filled the area as people set up lawn chairs and braced against a stiff wind whipping up dust clouds and blowing dozens of flags straight out.
The rally is targeting Reid and comes on the heels of the passage of the landmark health care reform legislation, which progressives are billing as the most important piece of social legislation since the mid-1960s passage of Medicare, the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Passed on a party-line vote, Democrats say the bill expands coverage to the uninsured and cuts the exploding increase in health care costs.
But to the small-government Tea Party movement, the legislation represents an unconstitutional infringement of liberty and a further extension of the welfare state.
The movement is now a year old, having been formed in the early days of the Obama administration when it introduced plans to buck up a cratering economy with government spending, tax cuts and bailouts for the collapsing banking and auto industries. The movement continued to gather strength as the administration revealed ambitious plans to reform health care and curb carbon emissions.
The Republican Party has harnessed the energy of the movement and banked much of its near-term prospects on the movement's ability to turn enthusiasm into electoral victories, like that of the newly-elected governors of New Jersey and Virginia.
Republicans seemed to be on the upswing with the election of Scott Brown, taking the seat of the late Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy and breaking the Democrats' 60-seat supermajority.
As the Senate majority leader who has shepherded much of the administration's agenda through Congress, Reid is the Tea Party movement's biggest target. He suffers from low approval ratings among Republicans and independents and has yet to secure his base. Roughly a dozen Republicans have lined up in a GOP primary to face him in November.
Republican Gov. Jim Gibbons, also trailing in his own primary and trying to tap into the conservative grassroots, was to welcome today's speakers.
Traffic was backed up onto U.S. 95 as crowds filed in this morning. The site has taken on the look of an RV city with a festival atmosphere.
Ketha Verzani, 60, said she's a Republican, and came to the rally from Las Vegas "to stand with those who want to clean house."
She opposes the health care bill and worries Americans are losing their rights, including parental rights and gun rights.
"It seems like every day more and more of our rights are being taken away," Verzani said, sporting a Palin 2012 button to show support for the former Alaska governor who "doesn't beat around the bush."
Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, appeared in Searchlight after spending Friday and Saturday morning campaigning for Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who led the 2008 ticket.
A string of polls has shown Reid is vulnerable in Nevada after pushing President Barack Obama's agenda in Congress. His standing has also been hurt by Nevada's double-digit unemployment and record foreclosure and bankruptcy rates.
Reid supporters planned their own rally Saturday about a mile from the tea party event.
Luis Salvador, 55, an unemployed fire sprinkler fitter, drove up from Las Vegas to support Reid, who he said has done a lot for the state and doesn't deserve the protest brought to his hometown.
"You don't come to a man's house and start creating a ruckus," said Salvador, a registered independent. He and several others taped signs saying "Nevada Needs Harry Reid" to the side of a truck near the highway that runs through town.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Schedule of events
- 10:30 a.m.: A “Candidate’s Forum” is being hosted by the Nevada tea party group, “Anger is Brewing”
- 11:50 a.m.: Expected arrival time of “Tea Party Express” caravan from Laughlin.
- 11:50 a.m.: Governor Jim Gibbons riles up crowd to welcome the Tea Party Express
- 11:55 a.m.: Diana Nagy and Selena Owens welcome crowd. Short prayer, national anthem.
- 12:01 p.m.: Lloyd Marcus performs “American Tea Party Anthem” and “2010” songs.
- 12:11 p.m.: Mark Williams, Amy Kremer, Darla Dawald, Melanie Morgan, Howard Kaloogian welcome crowd.
- 12:15 p.m.: Mark, Amy, Darla, Melanie and Howard announce Sarah Palin – ask crowd to stand and make some noise and exit stage as Gov. Palin takes the stage.
- 12:17 p.m.: Governor Palin speaks.
- 12:37 p.m.: Expected conclusion of Governor Palin’s speech.
- 12:38 p.m.: Rivoli Revue performs “Just Vote Them Out”
- 12:41 p.m.: Rivoli Revue performs “Big Fat No” [a song against “universal healthcare”]
- 12:45 p.m.: Roger Hedgecock speaks
- 12:49 p.m.: Andrew Breitbart speaks
- 1:02 p.m.: Jon David Performs
- 1:08 p.m.: Hannah Giles speaks
- 1:13 p.m.: Diana Nagy performs “Back on Track”
- 1:17 p.m.: Heidi Harris speaks
- 1:21 p.m.: Jerry Doyle speaks
- 1:26 p.m.: Wayne Allyn Root speaks
- 1:31 p.m.: William & Selena Owens
- 1:35 p.m.: “Tea Party Express” Song
- 1:40 p.m.: “Joe The Plumber” speaks
- 1:45 p.m.: Howard Kaloogian & Melanie Morgan introduce Chuck DeVore
- 1:47 p.m.: Chuck DeVore speaks
- 1:50 p.m.: Jim Martin speaks
- 1:55 p.m.: Andrea Shea King speaks
- 1:59 p.m.: Victoria Jackson speaks/performs
- 2:06 p.m.: Angela McGlowan speaks
- 2:10 p.m.: Polatik Rap
- 2:15 p.m.: Judson Phillips speaks
- 2:19 p.m.: Dustin Stockton speaks and introduces Debbie Landis
- 2:22 p.m.: Debbie Landis hosts U.S. Senate Candidate forum – Nevada
- 2:45 p.m.: Debbie Lee Veteran Tribute
- 2:50 p.m.: Rivoli Revue performs “Memorial Day” – Some Gave All
- 2:55 p.m.: “God Bless the USA” (TPX Singers)
- 2:59 p.m.: Conclusion of Program
just look at the heavy hitters these tea teetotallers worship...
sarah dumb as a bag of rocks palin...
joe not really a plumber and not really able to buy a plumbing company the plumber...
victoria a tired old has been comedian known for playing airheads jackson...
that's it baby...
those are the headliners...
hee hee hee...
hoo hoo hoo...
haa haa haa...
now...
these losers are going to travel from far and wide...
to listen to that assembled brain trust...
hee hee hee...
hoo hoo hoo...
haa haa haa...
and...
these losers are going to revive the stupid pathetic ugly lying always making a threat or fear mongering republican party...
hee hee hee...
hoo hoo hoo...
haa haa haa...
Why the Henderson Pavillion? Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin didn't like that long trek to the "Real America?"
mothers and fathers...
be forewarned...
the city of henderson faces grave danger today...
you must keep children indoors today if possible...
and if you cannot avoid taking them outside...
you MUST shield their eyes at all times...
you see...
ann coulter...
the ugliest person on the planet...
is in town...
my fellow citizens...
be advised...
a mere glimpse at her mind can scar a person for life...
it can turn a loving beautiful mind into an ugly hateful arrogant puddle of goo...
proceed with caution at all times...
You poor poor dems, your days are so very numbered. you had a chance to try and do something good, but your ideology is so screwed up, you have no choice but to watch as real change and real love for this country sweep in and does what is right - not what the socialist wants.
Those poor lil' rich teabaggers... They don't realize their days of being relevant are numbered. They're not funny any more, especially not when they turn violent. Most Nevadans aren't stupid enough to fall for the gimmicks and the pomp and circumstance, so they'll be exposed this weekend for the corporate shills they really are. Harry Reid, Dina Titus, and Shelley Berkley have stood up for working families here in Nevada and we'll justly reward them this fall... I just hope they have good security today.
The teabaggers, many retired and receiving social security checks and healthcare from medicare, traveling in their $100,000 motor homes on a highway widen to 4 lanes with federal dollars brought to Nevada by Senator Reid will end up at a pavilion built with tax dollars and maintained with tax dollars to shout out how angry they are with their government.
God Bless America
Stood up - you mean that 12.5% unemployment rate. Wow! thanks for the favor....May I have another knife in the back while you dine in your mansion, thanks.
Answer me this you left wing nut jobs, when in the history of America has socialism made us a better country? (never) For 200 years America has been the country of dreams, and now socialism is the change you people want? You are so brainwashed, you have no clue that you ever had a clue. Fortunately, you broke enough laws that your stupid socialist plot will never take affect, but get off the progressive train while you still can - before your brain is completely fried.
I'd rather hang out with folks with guns than with folks with no sense.
I'd rather hang out with folks of all colors that talk about solutions to problems and how we can work together.
It takes many hands to build a barn but any jackass can kick it down.
In America we have the right to dissent, the right to lawfully assemble, the right to move freely. These folks are exercising these rights, and they are not just white red neck types. I've seen all races at these events.
Poor sad little :baggers" unable to accept the reality that their lily-white grasp on control in America is slipping away.
You wrap yourselves in the flag and claim patriotism as your own. The truth is that you only believe in America when it suits your purposes. Now that there's a Black man in the White House, and the corporations and lobbyists are losing their iron-grip, you throw around threats and innuendos promising violence if you don't get yor way.
The rest of us stood by while Bush/Cheney raped and pillaged the middle-class. Now that the tide has turned, you are unwilling to accept the will of the electorate.
You are the opposite of patriots...
any guesses on the over under on the number of confederate flags in searchlight today???
my guess...
25...
does anybody know the formula to calculate the number of racists when you know the number of confederate flags???
Birdiedreamin,
The formula you asked for to calculate the number of racists when you know the number of confederate flags is:...
10 X 1 = racists per flag
That's 9 to blow wind and 1 to hold the pole.
Anybody going better watch their wife real close, Gibbons can't control himself.
I also heard that the snowstorm up in the midwest was whiter than a Tea Party. But not by much.
ya, palin sure is dumb, huh?
she'll make more money this year than anyone that posts on here.
pretty dumb, huh?
not saying i'm a big fan of palin,but c'mon people,51% of the vote went to obama.what are his qualifications? 1/2 term in the senate,preceded by a stint as a community organizer? kinda makes you wonder about the average intellect of the average voter. we need to get the libs out of our educational system, and maybe then we can reverse the dumbing down of america.
She is definitely not dumb. Very, very savvy. Alas, having the wits to accrue wealth isn't the same as having the smarts to run a state much less a country, which she demonstrated in the last presidential election.
I'm glad there are a bunch of out-of-towners supporting our state economy. Go Tea Party! Just don't break stuff.
This is the Tea Party Express's operation and the coordinator of the event is Joe Wierzbicki--
http://nevadanewsandviews.com/2010/02/15...
Well, dang, stevem, who'da thunked Sarah Palin would be so smart to quit her govner job jus to get rich off'n some other really smart peoples, like teabaggers n ya'll.
Who is Joe Wierzbicki?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?tit...
stevebosse
Hey bagger, tell me what is socialism, I bet you don't even know. It just amazes me how many dummies out there like to spell this nonsense and they don't even know what they are talking about.
Palin is playing these rednecks for all they are worth and will continue to do so as long as she can make a buck.
Pity is that these baggers really believe her.
So Joe Wierzbicki is a principal in the political (Republican) public relations firm Russo Marsh and Roger. Here's some of their history--
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?tit...
Hey, wardog, you wouldn't happen to be a member of the Texas School Board would ya? We really gotta get the notion out of our history books that our founding Fathers were community organizers who paled around with slave owners.
"Why the dogs are barking master?
It means we are pushing forward dear Sancho."
Miguel de Cevantes.
Go ahead Harry!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today Searchlight, Nevada will become the largest white-trash trailer park on the planet.
The Tea Party Express is run by Sal Russo, controller for decades of huge chunks of money spent to defeat Democrats and elect Republicans. According to this article most recently this group spent $350,000 to elect Scott Brown in Mass. and in the latest FEC records over $200,000 to defeat Harry Reid. This doesn't include whatever they're spending on today's effort in Searchlight:
http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/03/24/gop-...
no celeritas, no texas school board here,just a 1960s high school education,with a dash of common sense in there. by the way, most of our founding fathers were not slave owners,and the ones that were,{thomas jefferson for example}were not proud of that fact,and we know that from their writings, which you will never read about in todays history books.check out the correspondences between jefferson and adams and get back to me when you have been enlightened
By CPO
Are you serious? You write like a 5 year old. I will give you your definition, but I'd like to know why people like you deny Obama and his agenda are socialist. He even admits he agrees with socialist ideas. This is not a made up conservative smear campaign, it's real. Here is your answer:
socialism
/solzm/ Show Spelled[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
--noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
Sound like anybody you know?
Well, heck, I guess most of the really clever teabaggers are on their way to Searchlight. I bet they'll come back all lathered up after seeing Sarah Palin do her pageant walk across the stage today. And they'll have lots and lots of "common sense ideas" to share too!
stevebosse
Hey glad you looked it up, No actually it doesn't. LOL Tell me are you a retired brain surgeon ?
my stupid pathetic ugly lying always making a threat or fear mongering republican friends...
dear sarah is stupid...
that you can not deny...
in fact...
she is really just the female version of w the scum bag liar loser clown...
ain't no deep thinking going on...
period...
end of story...
hell...
didn't her mccain handler say as much...
wasn't he shock at how dumb she was as she prepared for the vp debate...
so stop the nonsense...
she's dumb dumb dumb...
she has learned to game the system...
she has learned how to get tea baggers all riled up...
no great skill there...
and this is the headline speaker...
this is who the stupid pathetic ugly lying always making a threat or fear mongering republicans look up to...
hee hee hee...
hoo hoo hoo...
haa haa haa...
good luck with that!!!
I've been on this planet at least as long as you, wardog, but I didn't stop learning when the 60's were gone. You based your argument on what I did not say. Plus you exclude facts and call that "common sense." Yet you say you are not a fan of Sarah Palin. I do not believe you.
Oh, and another thing, wardog and wardog'ers out there, I was "enlightened" by your ilk in the 50's, 60's and 70's. You were the ones we fought to stop a lot of ugly in this country, like Viet Nam, battering women and minorities (especially blacks) into subservient submission, denying women the right to control their own bodies, denying women and minorities the right to vote, and teaching our children to hate because of racial, sexual and religious differences.
That is NOT the America I ever wank back. But that IS the America Sarah Palin and her teabaggers are trying to resurrect.
Stevebosse, sorry to tell you but you are just plain wrong. Government has helped business develop -- think of railroads, highways, and airports. Government has also helped people -- Social Security, food and drug regulation, Title 9, the Clean Air Act (do I need to go on?). All this talk of socialism is just delusion and fearmongering.
No, it doesn't sound like anyone I know. The government is not taking over the means of production. It has bailed out corporations to keep them afloat to protect jobs and the economy. By the way, according to today's Washington Post, the government is going to sell its shares in Citigroup and make a cool $8 BILLION DOLLARS to go into the treasury. If that ain't CAPITALISM, I don't know what is.
The problem with morons like stevebosse is that they believe that anything for the good of society in general is socialism. They only think of themselves and have no interest in the common good...That's anti-American.
Nice and breezy. Perfect for spreading Timothy James McVeigh's ashes upon RV's and baggers far-and-wide.
Birdiedreamin,
And don't forget... Our very own AM talk show host, Jerry Doyle. He played Michael Garibaldi on Babylon 5.
Yup, big stars.
Hurray!! The circus is in town!! I expect you'll be there stevebosse, considering you're an assclown.
Journey, A recent ?? Huh ?? You baggers think everyone is stupid, but in reality you need to look in the mirror.
Journey
I think those numbers for the US should be followed by "of the insured".
"You poor poor dems, your days are so very numbered. you had a chance to try and do something good, but your ideology is so screwed up, you have no choice but to watch as real change and real love for this country sweep in and does what is right - not what the socialist wants."
I seem to remember the same comments in 1994 and 2000.
Thank God for the Republicans or we wouldn't be where we are today.
:) :) :) :)
(I had to put the smiley faces there just to make sure everyone knew I was being sarcastic. You just never know sometimes.)
Come on Journey produce the article !! Show us
Seems to me some people who have dissenting opinions on here resort to name calling. For those of you who do you make yourself look foolish, to most people your point is negated by your obvious bias and lack of debating skills.
The tea party has just as much a right as the "yes we can" and "change we can believe in" crowd back in 2008. The tea party like the these two groups have poor people, rich people, wealthy people, poor people, white people and minorities including black people. For those of you who call tea party folks racist and violent definitely don't know them. Yes, the Obama movement in 2008 was more socially diverse but that's because his message really inspired folks who hadn't been inspired before and the white population has been more political since the beginning for various reasons.
The tea party isn't for me, I am in the middle but I definitely understand them, like I understood Obama's movement in 2008. For those of you who don't respect their views or their message you are underestimating this group, they have millions of followers and are as powerful; if not more than Obama's 2008 group.
I do remember a lot of the Republicans saying derogatory things about these folks back then too. Can we just stop the ignorant personal bashing and talk about our differences like civilized people? We are all citizens of the United States of America, and I really think everyone's intentions are genuine, there are different ideas of how to do things and if someone has a point you cannot rebuke you should agree to disagree and leave it at that. Calling them a redneck, racist, idiot or other personally demeaning name only makes you look foolish.
One of the things I find interesting about the TeaParty Express Rally is the large number of really expensive RVs there. Many of them cost more than a house and these are the people that are worried about having to pay an extra 1 1/2% to 3% more in taxes on the return of their investments.
I can see why these people that want to remove Sen Reid from the Senate.
If their taxes go up too much more then they're not going to have as much extra spending cash when they're cruising around all summer in their hotel-on-wheels.
It's never been about Socialism or Government interference or "Death Panels". It always been about the money. They have it, they want to keep it all and they don't care what happens to anyone else... that is until something happens and they loose money. Then they come whining with their hands out wanting their "Fair Share" like all the "dead beats" got.
I keep hearing about President Obama and "redistribution of wealth". Isn't that's what's been happening through the entire Bush administration? The only difference is Pres. Bush and his gang took from the middle class and the poor and gave it to the rich.
And then they told us it was for the good of the country.
And how well is that working out for us?
Oh, and another thing, wardog and wardog'ers out there, I was "enlightened" by your ilk in the 50's, 60's and 70's. You were the ones we fought to stop a lot of ugly in this country, like Viet Nam,
Both escalated by democrats. (kennedy and Johnson, the pullout occurred under Nixon)
battering women and minorities (especially blacks) into subservient submission,
You do realize that it was the democratic party that opposed civil rights legislation by filibuster don't you.
denying women the right to control their own bodies,
Is it not true that the government under obamacare is taking control of your body, through threatening jail and fines for not buying a government controlled plan? Why were you against this before and are for it now?
denying women and minorities the right to vote,
Once again it was the democratic party that opposed this.
and teaching our children to hate because of racial, sexual and religious differences.
I agree these are all bad. I believe in equal opportunity for all. That's why I would prefer to keep the argument to the policies which will remove opportunities for poor and middle class, on those policies rather then imposing race on it, which is NOT what the TEA partiers are doing. The introduction of race has come from the opponents of political dissent, mostly as a smoke screen to stay away from the real harms of this legislation.
That is NOT the America I ever wank back. But that IS the America Sarah Palin and her teabaggers are trying to resurrect.
Ok, here is where you go wrong. You were doing pretty well up to here. Are you a homophobe? Why introduce a sexually charged word into a policy discussion? Its the sign of a really weak argument, similar to introducing racism, and shows you don't understand the issues. If you've been around as long as you claim, then you probably understand that tea party refers to the revolution, and I wont lecture you on history. Most of the people in the tea party movement oppose loss of individual freedom, a shift away from personal responsibility and support equal opportunity. You would be taken more seriously without the name calling, and by sticking to the issues. By the way, there is a lot of jumping to conclusiions here, stereotyping, of the tea party. I wouldnt do that if I were you. In my case you are most certainly wrong when you do. Painting all of the folks on the popular dissent side, the non-statist folks, with the same brush only makes you look foolish.
Now all we gotta do is get all the mental health professionals out there to round up the lunatic fringe.
It seems that several of the banks that received bail-out money are now getting back on their feet and have started paying back the government. Many economists agree that the dividends the banks are paying back are going to generate revenue for the US.
This is the other reason the Tea-Party needs to move quickly. They don't want people to see that Pres. Obama's programs are working and the USA is on the road to recovery.
Many, including Rush Limbaugh and several people at the rally, would rather the country fail than see it succeed at the hands of Pres. Obama.
People like that live in the United States of America and are residents of this country, but they are not Americans.
American is tying bank bailouts to Obama and Dems.
Oh...please....do continue.
"These folks are exercising these rights, and they are not just white red neck types. I've seen all races at these events."
lol, Ha Ha Haaaaaaaah!!!!
GOOD ONE! REALLY, REALLY GOOD!
The CARNY CONVENTION IS IN FULL SWING!
gmag is a racist.
He believes that all minorities like blacks believe in the exact same thing.
Take your bigoted statements somewhere else.
This evil CIRCUS will show exactly what the Tea Party represents and who's doin' the REPRESENTIN'; THAT ought to put ol' Harry right over the top!
Thanks, NutJobs, for helping Harry Reid get re-elected to the United States Senate!!!
When do they meet at Wal-mart?
Envying the wealth of others and thinking one has a claim to tax the rich to give to the poor is a base belief of "social justice" which was the basis of communism and socialism if one remembers history. Envy is also one of the deadly sins for those of you who are Christians.
I don't envy those who have built wealth, I am working hard, have gone back to school using student loans so I too can enjoy the comfort of wealth when I am in my golden years. If one is for or against the government decisions the argument shouldn't ever be "look at all those rich people their voice doesn't matter". If economic status is ones point for an argument then they have no argument.
"You do realize that it was the democratic party that opposed civil rights legislation by filibuster don't you."
But wasn't it Pres. Johnson that convinced Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
And didn't he also push for the passage of the Voting Rights Act, which outlawed discrimination in voting?
And wasn't it Pres. Johnson who went on TV and denounced the Klan as a "hooded society of bigots"?
I'm not going to say Democrats are prefect, but I believe they can stand behind many of their accomplishments with pride.
These people still believe that the earth is flat and that there are WMD's in Iraq.
Only NutJobgs that I know about hang around Obama.
For instance his spiritual mentor that stated that US government created and gave AIDS to blacks to kill them.
Or the dude that help start his political career and who helped supported terrorists acts and to this day has not apologized for those actions.
Or some of his recent appointments of which one said that the was a pround communist.
Boy....talking about nuts!!!!!!!
"American is tying bank bailouts to Obama and Dems."
A great example ignorance in America these days.
Pailin is flying in from Mesa AZ where she backed pro-amnasty MCCAIN. Who also opposes the anti-illegal trespassing measure in AZ. The teabags are being dupped.
To Sgtrock, Is that really the best you can come up with? Someone else said something and Obama went to his church so he must believe it to? LMAO!!!
YOu are crazy and all the other grandmas and grandpas out in searchlight. That gathering looks like field day at a nursing home / mental health facility.
Fact is Obama ran on change for the american people and you weirdos are just upset because he is getting it done. So you come out and lie and make stuff up to try and make him look bad but you forget we are not as stupid as the sheep that follow you around and believe everything.
Things like Obama wasnt born in the US.
Obama is a Muslim.
You guys stupidity cracks me up.
poor FAKESARGENTROCK!
HE'S THROWING ANOTHER HISSY FIT!!!
"gmag is a racist.
He believes that all minorities like blacks believe in the exact same thing.
Take your bigoted statements somewhere else."
what kind of an IDIOT writes a rant like that?
What does it even mean???
It's just made-up crap because poor sgtNANCErock32 has lost the ability to tell us to DRINK MORE KOOL-AID, LIBS; OBAMACARE WILL NEVER PASS!!!
right, JAMES NANCE, JR.???
P.S... How's the CAMPAIGN of Greg NANCE "DAGANI" going these days???
Talk about your mentally-challenged NUTJOBS that HIDE UNDER ROCKS!!! is he your brother???
Instead of the Revolutionary garb, they should probably be sporting Confederate costumes. The South shall rise again, Dagnabbit!
I was at the airport yesterday and, in FULL COSTUME, coming off a plane, was Paul Revere.
Man, it took an act of will to restrain myself...
DANG, if it weren't for that pesky security...
Hey, rock... you KNOW that was weak... but you ARE GOOD at playing the FLAMER!!!
>One of the things I find interesting about the TeaParty Express Rally is the large number of really expensive RVs there. Many of them cost more than a house and these are the people that are worried about having to pay an extra 1 1/2% to 3% more in taxes on the return of their investments.
I've followed the tea party movement pretty closely and never seen that. I know lots of people who attended some of them and never saw that. I'll assume you're not exaggerating though and ask you. So what. Are you against indivual freedome?
>I can see why these people that want to remove Sen Reid from the Senate.
Me too. Although we probabaly are thinking different reasons.
>If their taxes go up too much more then they're not going to have as much extra spending cash when they're cruising around all summer in their hotel-on-wheels.
Actually if taxes go up too much NOBODY will have extra spending cash, you know for things like rent and food. What also won't be around much is jobs. Increased taxes are followed by decreases in jobs, except for government jobs, which those taxes support. We are way beyond that though when we talk about obama care and the levels of debt we are heading for. (90% Dept to GDP according to the CBO) when we get into that kind of territory we are talking about economic collapse. Who gets hurt more in an economic collapse? If you support this legislation you most definitely do NOT support the poor.
>It's never been about Socialism or Government interference or "Death Panels". It always been about the money. They have it, they want to keep
Sure I want to keep my money. I worked for it.
it all and they don't care what happens to anyone else...
Not true. I know whats in my head you don't. Don't assume. Just like I won't assume you hate poor people and students just because you support policies that will hurt both
that is until something happens and they loose money. Then they come whining with their hands out wanting their "Fair Share" like all the "dead beats" got.
Hmm, where to start, this is just silly. I have lost money as have most people. Personal income is down across the board since about 2006. Current policy will perpetuate this. Hasnt resulted in my looking for a handout, or whining. I am supportive of those people who dissent an increase of government control of the economy. I think thats a good thing.
I keep hearing about President Obama and "redistribution of wealth". Isn't that's what's been happening through the entire Bush administration? The only difference is Pres. Bush and his gang took from the middle class and the poor and gave it to the rich.
And then they told us it was for the good of the country.
And how well is that working out for us?
You are factually incorrect on all but one of these points. There was redisttibution of welath, but not in the way you assume. I would invite you to look at the annual reports produced by the IRS. They show a greater share of taxes paid by the top 2 quintiles of tax payers throughout the Bush years. Personal income rose for all classes, but a greater burden of tax was payed by the top two groups. In addition personal income ROSE. You also seem to be confused on who sets the budget and passes laws in this country. It's not the president. The house and senate were controlled by democrats from 2006. Much of the conditions that set up the mortgage crisis was set in motion by policies that expanded credit to those who could not afford it. That as a misguided policy that was initiated under Bill Clinton, and supported eventually by Both parties. Efforts to fix Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac rules were supported by Bush and opposed by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. The housing crisis was the result of the housing bubble popping ( Government is almost but not always the original cause for bubbles) the resulting crisis due to CDS was due to undercapitalization, and increased defaults, were to a large degree due to policies started by democrats. The problems that existed predate Bush. I fail to see how increasing debt burden on everyone, and having bad governmental policy, when that was in large part the cause for the collapse helps that.
"I was at the airport yesterday and, in FULL COSTUME, coming off a plane, was Paul Revere."
OMG!!!! Let's call the FBI, CIA and National Guard.
SOMEBODY DRESS UP LIKE A CHERISHED FIGURE FROM THE AMERICAN PAST!!!!!!!!
Hurry up.....call 911........let's head for the hills.
What people are there they?
Of course, gmag is a racist.
He only thinks white people go to tea party events.
He thinks that blacks and other minorities are too stupid to use the gray stuff between their ears to make up their own minds and that they are programmed not to go to tea parties.
Gmag.....what a freaking nutjob!!!!!
It is funny that the lady in the photo is holding the flag upside down, They used to beat hippies when they did that. ;-)
POOR, POOR ROCK.
RIP, sgtrock, jfnance32, appleslices1717, lil' larry, et-al;
You are no longer relevant.
Tax loopholes seen costing billions annually
(Reuters) - Tax and accounting loopholes that largely benefit rich taxpayers and companies cost the government $20 billion a year even as the pay gap between chief executives and employees has widened, two groups said on Monday.
Really it's just sad how devided America has become. I mean it is starting to feel like you have to pick a side and you can no longer respect the other side! I may not agree with the "Tea Party" but they have a right to gather and listen to their scholars speak! The real winner in all of this will be the economy of Searchlight!!!
What we're witnessing today is the Death Throes of an ANGRY, AGED DINO.
Man, they get p.o.'d when they're rendered helpless!!!
SgtRock, Remember 911 is a government thing. Our tax dollars at work.
Please use it if you need it, but don't make prank calls or we'll have to hire more firefighters to respond.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/pol...
Hey Coffee Dude...care to cite the date of your 'revealing' story?...no, you say...well here you go, moron...Rueters published it on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 9:43am EDT...oh and the source is none other than the Institute for Policy Studies and the group United for a Fair Economy...you are lessening the debate...please go do something productive with your day...
>>You do realize that it was the democratic party that opposed civil rights legislation by filibuster don't you."
>But wasn't it Pres. Johnson that convinced Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
>And didn't he also push for the passage of the Voting Rights Act, which outlawed discrimination in voting?
>And wasn't it Pres. Johnson who went on TV and denounced the Klan as a "hooded society of bigots"?
Correct! But he did so against much of his party. My point is that using this as an argument that anyone who opposed or opposes the agenda of the democratic party back in the 60s-80s or today is a racist is silly. Race has nothing to do with opposing a government takeover of healthcare. Some of us who supported Civil rights, and were against the War in Vietnam are tea partiers(ot at least support their dissent), many are democrats, and many are black. For some very good reasons. I personally believe a lot of Obamacare works AGAINST the poor, and minorities. The most important factor in beating poverty FOR ALL RACES, is in educating yourself, and economic opportunity. Something that increased central government control does not help.
>I'm not going to say Democrats are prefect, but I believe they can stand behind many of their accomplishments with pride.
Sure. The republican party (Which I'm not in btw) can also stand behind a few. In my opinion this isnt one of the good ones for the democrats. This isnt about democrat/republican or white/black for me. I don't believe that expanding debt or squelching opportunities for people who are willing to work for a better future helps anyone, least of all the young, the poor and minorities. I didnt like republican expansion of government control, and I dont like democrat expansion of government control. You can believe this is good policy if you like and defend it. Calling others names doesnt help advance a policy that will make this country better.
And that makes it less relevant because it's not a figment of Hannity, Beck or Limbaugh's imaginations?
Come On Journey, your not a LIAR are you. A Tea Bagger who LIES !!!!
I see the usual from both sides are posting, I sure would like the issue of Journeys facts. The reason I am so adamant, I subscribe and do not recall the statistics that he said were in there.Frankly I think he made them up.
but..but..Rush told me that Obama is taking money from the poor rich people and giving to the lazy people that don't want to be rich.
Tea Party = Whites Only
They receive government health care and welfare, but they are OPPOSED to government health care and welfare!? They worry about the future, but they got their future behind them!? Obviously this is some form of age-related dysfunction, an inability to deal with change, to accept an America that's no longer all-white. They're in insult to seniors, to white people! But they'll all get very tired soon...
A lot of these tea-baggers are unemployed victims of Bush economic policies. Of course, they have been brainwashed into believin' that it's Obama's fault, LOL:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/pol...
"A lot of these tea-baggers are unemployed victims of Bush economic policies. Of course, they have been brainwashed into believin' that it's Obama's fault, LOL:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/pol...
If the source isn't Hannity, Rush, Glenn Beck, or Fox news, then it isn't true.
I cannot beleive how fast the Tea Party is growing. People from all walks of life have been signing on by the thousands and thousands all across the country.
I can see how the San Francisco type left that has taken over the Dems would be scared. With the Tea Party able to help pick off Ted Kennedys old seat that was held by a Dem for most of the Decade. The Tea Party has become a big threat. The cool part is the more the left trys and put out mis information on the Party the more members are signing up.
The new members which include Dems by the bunch have told me they are tired. Each time there is a story calling the Party nuts and so on, it drives people to the Party in bunches.
Obama lied and conned many trusting people in order to get elected. He never would have made it off what we like to call the Obama Zombies alone. Obama and the Dems have lost many of the smarter people that voted for him because they see the words vs his actions.
They will always have the Obama Zombies which are not very bright and are more like groupies. These people are not enough to stop the clean out that will start in Nov. The great part is we are not waiting until Nov, we will be working from now until Nov.
If the Tea Party could replace Ted Kennedy, clearing out Reid and others in Nevada will be like taking candy from a baby.
When you have Castro & Chavez coming out and cheering the moves your leader is making you are in trouble as a Free People. And to all the Zombies out there, the same people that made a Star out of Paris Hilton, wake up man, wake up.
Sidney is another racist who believes that minorities can't think for themselves that none will show up at tea party events.
You just joined our racist nugjob...gmag.
>>Tea Party = Whites Only
Really? Did you know that several of the organizers and speakers at Tea Parties are black?
>>They receive government health care and welfare, but they are OPPOSED to government health care and welfare!?
I don't. What are you basing this on?
>>They worry about the future, but they got their future behind them!?
You base this on what? Are you saying that you agree with them, that with these policies(Bailouts and Obamacare) the Country will see a decline in economic opportunity, health care, and a loss of personal freedom? If so, welcome to the Tea Party!
>>Obviously this is some form of age-related dysfunction, an inability to deal with change, to accept an America that's no longer all-white. They're in insult to seniors, to white people! But they'll all get very tired soon...
I would agree that the Tea party people oppose changes that they see as hurtful to the country. Thats called political dissent. Are you against free speech and political dissent? Since Most of the organizers of the original tea parties were women, and many of them were minority, I would have to strongly disagree with your conclusion. I would suggest you educate yourself on the topic, before you speak. Otherwise you look like a fool.
SHHHH!
Sarah is SPEAKING!!!
I hope she talks, and talks, and talks....
The more she says, the worse she SOUNDS!
Too bad she can't remember half the stuff she's trying to say. She should have written it down... on her hand, or something...
Holy Mother of God...
Are they PAYING HER for this???
>> A lot of these tea-baggers are unemployed victims of Bush economic policies
What Bush economic policies exactly? I don't necessarily disagree with you, but since you don't say what they are, I'm not sure. Some of them Obama has continued and some he has made worse. Which ones do you mean?
BTW using the term tea-baggers is offensive to a lot of people. Many of the tea partiers could be your grandmother. Would you say that to your grandmother? It makes you sound like a homophobe. Do you really want to be that judgemental? Isn't there enough hate in the world without you contributing more?
As the left started taking over California you could see the destruction of the State come bit by bit. They have had the State now for awhile and it has become a punch line across America.
Many that helped destroy California have moved to the Las Vegas Area. I have just finished reading an article that claimed that up to 40% of the people that live here would like to move.
Most have to be the California Lefties, lets take up donations and help these type before the spread of the slime they drop behind destroys the Great State of Nevada.
I am wondering what the median age of the tea-baggers is? Would anyone spot me 75?
It' s like my father-in-law sending me an email rant about how Obamacare is the beginning of the socialist takeover of America, and then the next email is a rant about how he isn't getting a cost of living adjustment in his SS and by God that donut hole thing has kicked in with his drug plan.
If all the people out there hollering about SOCIALISM would voluntarily drop their SS, Medicare, and drug program, I might listen to them.
Right now I just think they are hypocrites and selfish.
Dems are living in fantasy land. Reality starts now.....
Now that health care has been enacted, it didn't take long for reality to kick in. From the NYTimes........"AT&T said that it was also looking into changing the health care benefits it offered because of the law. Analysts say retirees could lose the prescription drug coverage provided by their former employers as a result of the overhaul.".....and those old people vote. So did the roughly 8 million people on medicare advantage. Mock them now but this November they will be lined up to vote.
What a great retirement celebration for BackDoor Reid!
Go ahead and mock them, but a sleeping giant has been awakened and their wrath will be felt in November.
There will be half a million here before nightfall!!!
These idiots are more destructive on America than a plague of locusts or infestation of weevils.
CAN'T THEY FIND SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO DO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TEAR THIS COUNTRY APART?
Haven't they done enough to prevent meaninful and much needed reform in this country in the past couple years?
Didn't they (under Cheney and Bush) almost bring this country to total moral and ecconomic collapse?
These religious and political extremists should be treated like the TRAITORS they are and ROUNDED UP!
Let's start by putting a big rope around this metastisizing NATIONAL CANCER in Searchlight and NIP IT IN THE BUD.
JAIL VIOLENT TEA-PARTY TRAITORS PERIOD.
I hope Americans take a look at the town where Harry Reid grew up. It's rare for someone in power to have been poor, and to know what poor means.
Sarah Palin is glad to take advantage of the poor, the uneducated, and the afraid. Harry Reid has spent his life trying to change these same people's options.
For someone who is supposed to be so inconsequential, the Leftie Loonies sure get their panties all in a twist over Sarah Palin!
Amazing....all these people getting together who do not want government run health care, big government, etc. I wonder just how many of these people are on Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, etc. - and whether or not they have given them up....
It would be irony of major proportions if the IRS showed up at this rally, heard people rail against government run health care....and then promptly removed these people from Medicare, etc. I wonder what the reaction would be then?
if i'm not mistaken theres far more dem's then the tea party or the redumbs party.We have all diffrent colers of people so when it's time to vote I think the only republican left will be down south..
>>These idiots are more destructive on America than a plague of locusts or infestation of weevils.
How so? Are you against political dissent?
>>CAN'T THEY FIND SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO DO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TEAR THIS COUNTRY APART?
It looks to me as though they are getting involved in the political process. How does that tear the country apart?
>>Haven't they done enough to prevent meaninful and much needed reform in this country in the past couple years?
I think the disagreement is on the type of reform. They oppose massive governmental control of the economy and their healthcare. Are you for government control? If so, why? when it hasn't worked for much of anything else.
>>Didn't they (under Cheney and Bush) almost bring this country to total moral and ecconomic collapse?
Why exactly do you think Cheney and Bush led to moral or economic collapse? What is it you think Bailouts and Obamacare do to correct economic collapse. I have to tell you, given that we cant seem to sell T-bills, and that our bond rating appears to be in jeaopardy, that the current governments policies seem to be heading us there faster. Do you agree? If not why?
>>These religious and political extremists should be treated like the TRAITORS they are and ROUNDED UP!
You seem angry. What is it about exercising political dissent in a democracy that you find so threatening?
>>Let's start by putting a big rope around this metastisizing NATIONAL CANCER in Searchlight and NIP IT IN THE BUD.
>>JAIL VIOLENT TEA-PARTY TRAITORS PERIOD.
You are suggesting violence towards and suppression of your fellow countrymen for exercising free speech? That sounds extremly undemocratic, and frankly scary. I hope you're not in a position of authority. I don't really like authoritarian societies. The thought that the country might be going that way is exactly what drives a lot of people to join the tea party. To that end, thank you for helping support the tea party message that we must move towards more freedom.
When tea-party protesters stop bombing federal office buildings and killing innocent men, women and children.. I'll stopping calling for them to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. As far as I'm concerned all you anti-government types are traitors.
>>Amazing....all these people getting together who do not want government run health care, big government, etc. I wonder just how many of these people are on Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, etc. - and whether or not they have given them up....
Actually I doubt many are. But that begs the question are you against the unemployed? Are you for more jobs? Are you for big government?
Do you support policies that lead to fewer jobs and more unemployed? Be careful how you answer or you might just find yourself agreeing with the Tea party.
>>It would be irony of major proportions if the IRS showed up at this rally, heard people rail against government run health care....and then promptly removed these people from Medicare, etc. I wonder what the reaction would be then?
Since one of the provisions of the bill is to hire over 16,000 more IRS agents that is certainly a greater possibility. Why do you think more government agents is a good thing?
Happily, we have a First Amendment that gives the Tea Partiers the right to be as hateful, racist, sexist, and homophobic as they want. Unhappily, they also think this gives them the right to incite violence against those who disagree with them--and that the Constitution does not protect. They don't know that, I suspect, since they don't seem to know that health care reform was perfectly constitutional.
Tea what? This aint Boston and that aint no tea party. Anything else that can be slandered?
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By mrtmtrvlr
March 27, 2010
1:14 p.m.
Suggest removal When tea-party protesters stop bombing federal office buildings and killing innocent men, women and children.. I'll stopping calling for them to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. As far as I'm concerned all you anti-government types are traitors.
Are you talking about the building in Austin? That in fact was an anti-bush guy, as shown by his printed manifesto. I agree with you that he should be punished, nobody should resort to violence with a working political system. The tea party is taking part in the political process so I don't see how that applies here.
Were you against the war in Iraq, and did you support those who protested against the war as anti-government traitors who should be jailed? If so, I'd have to disagree with you, as you clearly don't understand the origins of our country are in support of individual freedom of speech and against undo influence and control by the government.
Why are republicans speaking at Tea Party gatherings and inciting mobs of people to be angered with democrats? Do they think this does not reflect on the republican party? Are they trying to dismantle our political system? And what are these inflamatory attacks on our nations leader about, is this to incite a civil war or revolution? Republicans or Tea party seeds of dissent who's aim is what exactly? I can not believe it has anything to do with actually trying help shape our government? More like trying tear it down!
Someone should ask Palin why her family thought it necessary to go into Canada to receive medical care or why Alaskans get government subsidy checks for having a pipeline or why Alaska takes in more Federal dollars than it gives out or why her daughter receives help from the state. I am sick of these freakin' hypocrites. I wonder how she would like it if thousands of angry, hateful protesters swooped down on tiny Wasilla?
I think its halarious that the DEM's on here are bitching about the tea party gathering. Isn't it usually the libarals that are ranting and gathering to denounce govenment when REP's are in control?
"Change we can believe in" Just don't see it. From a man that said under his watch unemployment would not rise above 8%. Its currently creeping up towards the teens. And now he is blaming Bush for this!
All the Earmarks within the "Obama Care" system makes me want to puke!!! I can't believe that our govenment would condone actions such as bribery to get a bill passed! Yes I said Bribery!!! "If you vote for it, we will give you x" that's bribery!!!
And for those of you bitching about the "Hotels on wheels" get off your lazy butts and make something of yourselves. I don't think any of these people sat around bitching about someone elses wealth, they went out and created their own. Maybe if we taxed these individuals higher, they wouldn't be able to afford these Luxury items, and you all could get a few more bucks in your welfare checks!!!
stevebosse
You have already proven yourself to be a total right wing nut job, who doesn't even know what the meaning of socialist. Hey I say post whatever you want, but when you start naming groups something, posting so called facts, and can't back them up with legitimate sources, that makes you nothing but a LIAR.
the population of america is roughly 365,000,000...
these nut jobs total 10,000...
if you give them every possible benefit of the doubt...
and this is a national movement...
so...
that means 1 out of every 36,5000...
got that...
1 out of every 36,500 americans is a tea bagger...
that is meaningless...
these nuts jobs are just loud...
and dumb...
that's it...
nothing more...
time to hit the ole ignore button...
Why are the liberals so scared of this group of civilized friendly good old folks who just want to see less government involved in their lives. They are willing to give their lives for their country when the government calls them to. They are hard working, and are the backbone of the shrinking middle and lower classes who are made to pay for EVERYTHING in the country. Without this group, America would be just another 3rd world country with haves and have nots. Liberal haters, don't fear and insult these folks, but celebrate that they are true Americans who just want to live the American dream and be left alone.
>Happily, we have a First Amendment that gives the Tea Partiers the right to be as hateful, racist, sexist, and homophobic as they want.
How exactly are they being racist? Since most of the tea party is women, are you saying they are anti-male?
>Unhappily, they also think this gives them the right to incite violence against those who disagree with them--and that the Constitution does not protect.
really? How exactly do they incite violence? Or are you jumping to conclusions. If there are violent acts being committed by people, then absolutly they should be brought to justice. I haven't seen anyone in the tea party promoting violent acts.
>They don't know that, I suspect, since they don't seem to know that health care reform was perfectly constitutional
Well we shall see about that. Nobody has ever forced an individual to buy a product through force by the federal government, hence the lawsuits. This still doesnt answer whether its a good idea for the government to do it. Health care reform is a good thing, and there were several less devisive, and less expensive solutions possible, that would probably be supported by a larger percent of the population. Unfortunately that's not what was passed. One of the best ideas I've seen is a combination of larger health care accounts, and a high deductible health insurance policy. That would have allowed most people that have insurance to keep it, would get individuals more involved in their health spending, while protecting for catastrophic illness. Instead we have a Massive government intrusiong In every citizens life. I'm not sure how that is progress. Do you know?
reid took $500 billion from medicare. Almost all senior citizens vote.
November = Independance Day
By Birdiedreamin
"the population of america is roughly 365,000,000...
these nut jobs total 10,000...
if you give them every possible benefit of the doubt...
and this is a national movement...
so...
that means 1 out of every 36,5000...
got that...
1 out of every 36,500 americans is a tea bagger...
that is meaningless...
these nuts jobs are just loud...
and dumb...
that's it...
nothing more...
time to hit the ole ignore button..."
You know, you are absolutly right. You should tell all your friends too. Nothing to see here.
See you at the polls.
i love how nervous you liberals get when people with more money than you organize to keep that money.
hey, if you gave out birkenstocks and 40 ounce bottles of malt liquor, i'm sure you could get some obama supporters together.
stevem
Your another one, a person who has to resort to out right distortions and lies to try and make your point. Only someone with a pea brain such as yourself, would believe that there are plenty of jobs out there. Here is a novel thought, go back to school and get some knowledge before you start posting.
Go Tea Party!! Vote those dummy Dems out in Nov. You Libs sure like to call people names that want a better America. Figures though as you are thinking of yourselves only and not the people of this great America!!!!!!!!
NOV. is Independence Day, Yahooo!!!
By rich44 "Republicans or Tea party seeds of dissent who's aim is what exactly? I can not believe it has anything to do with actually trying help shape our government? More like trying tear it down!"
Are you against all dissent, or just that which you don't agree with? I think the general message of the tea party is more freedom, and less government control. They are against bailouts and against government control of the economy, and their health. Those are actually pretty much in line with the founders. Please explain why you think stifling dissent and government control are a good thing.
lookie here lookie here...
the numbers are coming down already...
only 8,000 now...
hee hee hee...
hoo hoo hoo...
haa haa haa...
hey bgart...
see you there skippy...
By ghostcommander "Every license plate and every person at the Brownshirt Tea Party event will be photographed. There are numerous undercover officers there and numerous press personnel. Thanks for making it so easy to identify future terrorists!
"
Wow! You are calling them brownshirts, while at the same time threatening them with brownshirt tactics, you know, terror. So conformist, so 1930s. Why so anti-freespeech? I don't think this is going to turn out the way you think. When they quit laughing at you, they will ignore you. But thanks for contributing to the intelligent debate.
Tea Party-
A) Why are you entitled to socialized medicine (medicare, that is bankrupting us without major changes) and entitled to drug benefit (passed in 2003)?
B)Where was the rage against "socialism" then?
C) Why do all of their supporters refuse to directly answer this question?
It really does boil down to "we have ours" and they are terrified they will be effected negatively, it has nothing to do with them "fighting socialist" (other wise they would reject the socialized medicine they enjoy)
Got to love the pictures of all the old anti-socialism warriors, whom are receiving socialized medicine and if you listen to them speak, after the ols socialist ramblings it always comes back to hurting them and their socialist medical care, medicare.
The ironic thing is, they are the ones who brought this on. Rapidly aging populations, excessive benefit to tax ratio and more treatments available have render medicare not only unsustainable but bankrupting the country. That is the reason this bill was pushed through demographics.
After they lost, the Republicans became "the conservatives" when that didn't work they became the "the tea party". Same tune different name. Can't you see that you are being duped? You people are one serious illness or job loss from being labeled (by the talking heads that you worship) as the despised freeloader, that's unwilling to work, and looking for a Government handout.
"C) Why do all of their supporters refuse to directly answer this question?"
Yes, why is that?
In November when the Republican take back the house, then we can get back to work and follow our dreams of smaller govenment and get the country back on track! BLACK PRESIDENT, BLACK PRESIDENT, it wouldn't matter if he was pink. He just stinks!!! Powell is black and would stand behind him. Obama is a very smart man, book smart. But has no idea what he is doing, or how to fix this country!!!
"Why are the liberals so scared of this group of civilized friendly good old folks who just want to see less government involved in their lives."
+++++
They don't want to see less government in their lives. They are quite happy with Medicare, Social Security and many have the time to devote to tea partying because they have lost their jobs, so they are also quite happy with exteneded unemployment benefits. But boy, it's fun to dress up in colonial garb and carry hateful signs and be full of inchoate anger.
Fortunately, most of the Tea Party attendees are from other states, so no matter how much they yell, they can't vote in our election.
coffee- I've ask this a million times and yet one has answered. They dont really believe in keeping "socialized medicine" out of the us, they simply afraid their ox is getting gored. And it is because it has to. If they really believed what they claim to (which they dont , if you let them talk long enough it always comes back to medicare cuts)
they would have raised hell about prescription drugs benefits being added.
Only 8000 attended? From the photos, that estimate looks about right or even a little generous. That is a poor showing considering the intense national buildup.
So Sunfish does smaller government mean getting rid of the "socialized" medicine programs like medicare prescription drugs or just ending it all together.
I think it a disgrace that these proud self sufficient retires are subject to such socialist humiliations as having their medical needs meet by a socialist program, let them live in dignity and by a private policy or go back to work and get an employee sponsored policy. End this travesty of forcing "socialism" down their throats.
Nightengale, Fox will count the number of fingers and toes on each person to come up with a number.
So, Palin says Reid is gambling with our future and this isn't a crapshoot. I wonder if she knows that Mormons don't gamble. I wonder if she knows who Mormons are.
In her case, I prefer to quote Bill Maher: "A few months ago, Sarah Palin mockingly asked them, 'How's that hopey-changey thing working out for ya?' Great, actually. Thanks for asking. And how's that whole Hooked on Phonics thing working out for you?"
bgart,
Hey dud, "sexual," in the context it was used meant gender, not homophobic.
I spoke of the socio-political "ilk" of the era, like racial bigots, war mongers, war profiteers, domestic abusers and all round aholes. I didn't speak to a political party whatsoever. But maybe that's why you took it so personally.
On the historical basis of the original Tea Party... you have no idea what you are talking about. But thanks for not "lecturing."
By martin123
Tea Party-
A) Why are you entitled to socialized medicine (medicare, that is bankrupting us without major changes) and entitled to drug benefit (passed in 2003)?
You are assumuing the tea party is for all of those things, you are in fact assuming Tea Party=Republican, it doesnt. Those passed with bi-partisan support, I don't agree with them, but that's just me. I don't speak for them, but how is it you think bailouts and obamacare fix that problem?
B)Where was the rage against "socialism" then?
Actually there has been a LOT of rage thrown at Republicans Google, porkbusters. Republicans were not allowed to speak at the early tea party demonstrations for just this reason. the GOP has come under repeated attack for just this reason.
One of the differences is in the magnitude of the spending, there is simply no precendent to the levels of government control and spending we're seeing.
"coffee- I've ask this a million times and yet one has answered."
I guess the truth hurts and it's just easier to live in a fantasy world, where Obama is the boogeyman and out to get them.
C) Why do all of their supporters refuse to directly answer this question?
See above. Look at some of the tea party sites and you'll see some of the same answers.
>"It really does boil down to "we have ours" and they are terrified they will be effected negatively, it has nothing to do with them "fighting socialist" (other wise they would reject the socialized medicine they enjoy)
Got to love the pictures of all the old anti-socialism warriors, whom are receiving socialized medicine and if you listen to them speak, after the ols socialist ramblings it always comes back to hurting them and their socialist medical care, medicare.
The ironic thing is, they are the ones who brought this on. Rapidly aging populations, excessive benefit to tax ratio and more treatments available have render medicare not only unsustainable but bankrupting the country. That is the reason this bill was pushed through demographics."
Actually many of us do not enjoy any of those benefits and don't expect to given the levels of spending we're seeing. You are making some HUGE assumptions here. I can't speak for everybody in what I consider a healthy movement, but for me it boils down to I have mine, I would like for others to ALSO get a chance to have theirs, and I might not have mine for much longer if the system fails. I think that these policies reduce the likelihood rather than improve it that ANYONE will see the benefits of SS, etc. SS just crossed into the red. The Debt to GDP is going to hit 90% in ten years, the T-bills are having trouble selling, the US gov bond rating of AAA is threatened, increasing government control and spending only adds on to a very very bleak situation.
"The ironic thing is, they are the ones who brought this on. Rapidly aging populations, excessive benefit to tax ratio and more treatments available have render medicare not only unsustainable but bankrupting the country. That is the reason this bill was pushed through demographics."
I absolutly agree that is bankrupting the country, my disagreement is that I don't believe that obamacare fixes it, in fact it accelerates the problem. You can only possibly believe this is a fix, if you believe the government accurately estimated the cost of the programs, history is VERY much a problem there. AND that the policies wont affect behavior in the economy. IF both of these are not true, not only will this not a fix it increases the rate of bankruptcy drastically. The average rate of underestimation of public health program cost is between 2X and 10X.
None of that touches the argument of government control and intrusion where its never been before. I have problems with that on principle as well.
Crystal Naught...coming to America soon....shalom
bgart,
Hey dud, "sexual," in the context it was used meant gender, not homophobic.
I was referring the the teabagger term.
>I spoke of the socio-political "ilk" of the era, like racial bigots, war mongers, war profiteers, domestic abusers and all round aholes. I didn't speak to a political party whatsoever. But maybe that's why you took it so personally.
No I didnt take it personally. Probably because I'm not a member of either of the dominant parties.
On the historical basis of the original Tea Party... you have no idea what you are talking about. But thanks for not "lecturing."
Really? Enlighten me. What do you think the original tea party was about?
Bgart
Actually since most of the 5000 are passing through Boulder City, all there license plates will be ran. Boulder has a automatic reader camera and runs every plate that passes through the City limits.
I went to the Tea Party event and there weren't 8,000 people present. Far less. I saw almost all white faces and one lone Black man. At least 90% of the cars were from out of state. Loads of people in huge $100K motor homes with 2 people in them. They were confined to a relatively small area and their cars were strung out along the highway. There was between 3500 and 5,000 people there and maybe about 1,500 vehicles. Hardly any impact on Reid's reelection.Let's see how many Democrats show up to a paid event tonight. Far more Nevadans than those who showed up at the Tea Party.
sarapainful in Searchlight:
"Thats odd, I can see Moscow better from here than from Wasilla."
cpo: "Actually since most of the 5000 are passing through Boulder City, all there license plates will be ran. Boulder has a automatic reader camera and runs every plate that passes through the City limits."
cool. Technology is a wonderful thing. Its allowed me to enjoy this conversation for way too long today. later all.
Fat White People = Tea Party
Tea Party = Anger
Anger = Stress
Stress = High Blood Pressure
High Blood Pressure = Heart Attack
Heart Attack = High Medical Bills
Btw, I'm in that tax bracket
that has to pay the extra 3.8%
for health care reform. Sadly,
I'm paying for the Tea Party too.
Woodstock for White HATE!
And where did they get the money for all of those expensive trucks and RVs there? And all those rich white girls with plastic surgery. America must not be too bad.
bgart- First thank you for a thoughtful response. I do not think I am marking any huge assumptions. They and almost all of their followers are silent on the subject and revert to "stop the socialists", neglecting to even acknowledge they benefit most form these "socialist"programs.
The very logical question for them would be where do you stand on this issue and what do we do about it? Most people who associate themselves with this movement will not even acknowledge it.
how would YOU know how many people were there.
between 3500 and 5000.
wow...pretty accurate, there.
if you can't tell the difference between 3500 and 5000...how could you tell the difference between 5000 and 8000?
for a group of people that is so "minor" and "dumb" and "pointless"...you liberals sure do spend a lot of time worrying about them.
uh....i have a pea brain for thinking there are jobs out there?
well, i tell you what...
go to www.indeed.com and type in "las vegas"...
18,000+ jobs are there.
who's the dumb one now?
stop living off the government, put on your big boy pants, and go get a job.
For the others trying to take back our country from the socialist here are some inspirational quotes from true conservatives.
Many conservatives strongly opposed the enactment of Medicare, warning that a government-run program would lead to socialism in America:
* Ronald Reagan, as part of Operation Coffee Cup in 1961, stated that: "[I]f you don't [stop Medicare] and I don't do it, one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it once was like in America when men were free."[65]
* George H. W. Bush, while a candidate for the US Senate in 1964, described Medicare as "socialized medicine."[66]
* Barry Goldwater in 1964: "Having given our pensioners their medical care in kind, why not food baskets, why not public housing accommodations, why not vacation resorts, why not a ration of cigarettes for those who smoke and of beer for those who drink."[67]
* In 1995 Bob Dole stated that he was one of 12 House members who voted against creating Medicare in 1965. "I was there, fighting the fight, voting against Medicare ... because we knew it wouldn't work in 1965." [68]
O'God Stevem is here. And look he found www.indeed.com he is soooooo proud of himself he keeps re-posting it because he thinks he found some gem.
8,000 is quite alot of people if you ask me. If it were the Dems roundup it would be said what a huge showing. LOL
"What can we do about this? Well, you and I can do a great deal. We can write to our congressmen and to our senators. We can say right now that we want no further encroachment on these individual liberties and freedoms. And at the moment, the key issue is, we do not want socialized medicine."
-Ronald Reagan on the Medicare
The Army Corps of Engineers is Socialism -- why do we need the Army to dig canals when it can be done by private companies?
The Police and Fire Depts are socialism --
Public Schools are socialism --
The US Military is Socialism, remember? Blackwater is the private Army -- Does anyone want Blackwater flying bombers around with nuclear weapons? Should our Nuclear arsenal be managed for profit? H.S.!!!!
Unions are socialism -- unions are why we don't have child labor, 15 hour days for 12 year olds, and jobs for those over 40 who aren't as fast as the 20 year old bumpkins. Unions created protection from self serving management and paid health care.
So we don't want socialism? Pass the Borscht please, and read Charles P. Pierce's "Idiot America: Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free".
At least half of the Palin supporters probably think that Adam and Eve walked around with dinosaurs. How is it possible to have a rational conversation with these liver pounders?
8,000...
let's see...
let's revise the math...
that's 1 for every 45,625 americans...
hee hee hee...
8,000...
that's a bad turn out for a unlv game...
hee hee hee...
8,000...
obama could literally do that tomorrow at the unlv...
all by his lonesome...
tomorrow...
no big build up...
no tour...
no need for those super high flying celebrities...
no need for blowhard talk show hosts talking it up day after day...
hee hee hee...
be proud tea baggers...
be very very proud...
Yep, a Tea Party rally is whiter than a midwest snowstorm.
look at that obama poster in the background...
there is racist element to the tea bagger movement...
did you hear that...
there is racist element to the tea bagger movement...
hello...
there is racist element to the tea bagger movement...
and yet no one denounces it...
there is racist element to the tea bagger movement...
and these blowhard tea baggers seem to enjoy it...
there is racist element to the tea bagger movement...
be proud tea baggers...
be very very proud...
Whitestock
This woman is terrific and a real patriot. She is a thorn in the side of the left-wing for sure. We will vote them all out however Reid,Pelosi,obama the whole bunch of big spenders and incompetents that are destroying our country. Tea Party is a great event let's take back our great country and make it great again vote these dumbocrats out!!
More people go to a minor casino on an off day. You'd think with the 10-12 millions people within a 4 1/2 hour drive there would be a bigger crowd. But then, an anti-Iraq war rally of 250,000 is considered too unimportant to report on TV but a 4,000 person rally gets wall-to-wall coverage. Yawn. 15X time this number of peole went to NASCAR a few weeks ago. Yawn.
The libs here can bitch, moan and belittle all they want to here...But come November, it will be us old fart Tea Party supporters that will get out to the polls and dump the Dems...So to all you libs here, go ahead and make your nonsensical and idiotic rants here...but when it comes November, just remember the dumb ass statements you made in March...and then see who has the last laugh...
I think this is hilarous.
The libs are saying that the tea party people are racists and full of hate.
The only hate I see on this thread are the libs' comments.
The only racist comments are from the libs.
If the shoe fits..........
I like this picture of Sarah wearing her extra ornate crucifix and the placard of Obama in the background made into The Joker. How pathetic these ignorant un-American terrorists.
Isn't it quite hypocritical that those who are calling tea party goers angry and violent, themselves being angry and threatening violence?
The fact is most tea party folks defected from the Republican and Democratic parties or weren't even affiliated with a party at all, they aren't Republican homers. Most of them don't want to see the incumbent win re-election if they support bigger government or are pro-amnesty for immigration. Last time I checked this was just about every politician in office today on both sides of the fence. Just as Obama was responsible for this so was Bush; the only difference is Obama is in power today and is still writing his history.
John McCain has hired Palin to campaign for him because he needs to combat the tea party support from his competitor, he's a 5 term Republican by the way and he knows that he needs to get the backing of the tea party. Doesn't that kind of contradict the theory that tea party folks are blind homers for the Republicans?
The people on here complaining about the right tea party people have to gather and the demographics they have should look themselves in the mirror. When the 2008 campaign was going on, many of the Republicans called the very people on here today names as well; how did it feel?
I am not advocating either side but it's hypocritical to look at a group of people and make large assumptions about them. If you are one of those on here calling a tea party a "tea bagger", "criminal", "racist", or other empathy then you are no better than the other side who were saying the same about you in 2008.
The reality is this is a group of people exercising their right to gather and share their common bonds. I've met a lot of these folks and they're mostly very nice people from humble backgrounds who have worked hard and saved their entire adult lives and are being American.
I was equally impressed in 2008 by the organization of young people and people who had never cared about politics enough to come together to express themselves finally.
Please don't become frustrated now that there is dissent to your opinion, this is a true melting pot country and as long as we can share ideas and have our opinions represented we have a chance to continue democracy and influence our own stances as nobody is right on every opinion 100% of the time. We may agree to disagree but having this option is the most important thing...
How is it that the writers of this story quote the same people as this AP writer?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100327/ap_o...
Plagerism
STOP BUYING CHINESE OR IMPORTED STUFF AND ONLY BUY MADE IN AMERICA!!!!
ALSO ONLY BUY AT INDEPENDANT PLACES NOT WALMART!!!
"This woman is terrific and a real patriot."
Yeah, that's why she quit her job as governor to go on a book tour and to be a Fox TV analyst.
LMAO
You all realize that Democrats & Republicans (oh, & I can't forget the Liberals) do not care one iota about us. All they want is to divide the US..what is the phrase, "United we stand, Divided we fall".
Just what our enemies want...remember people we are US CITIZENS!!! We need to stop insulting each other and throwing out threats to one another.
It is a wonder our country is a mess right now...
Interesting that this article does NOT say how many pro-Reid demonstrators there were. Can we surmise that there were 2 since those were quoted? Would that not be an important fact to put in the article? Guess there weren't that many.
Also, why would those pro Reid demonstrators and rat Reid himself assume that most of the tea partiers are from out of state. There is a huge tour that starts in Vegas but doesn't stay in Vegas. Isn't it more likely that most of the anti Reid bunch are Nevadans who can't wait to expel Reid and his family freak show from office permanently.
At least 8,000 anti-Obama, anti-Reid, anti-Titus people drove hours to a small town in the middle of desert.
25 people showed up at the pro-Reid rally.
Please....please....please...Democrats....keep drinking the kool-aid.
A woman (secretly homophobic & xenophobic) was dying of cancer. A Filipino man (who never advertised his homosexuality) was the only one of her co-workers who ever came to visit her in the hospital, offering flowers, compassion & consolation. The woman was disgusted that of all people, someone like him was being kind to her. Were the flowers poisoned? Did he want to steal her money? Angry and bitter about her condition, she lashed out him, telling him to leave and never come back.
The Republican party is a lot like this woman -- a party dying of a cancer caused by its own hatred & bitterness. They lash out at the one man who does something nice and good for the country just because he is a Democrat and they are frightened by the sound of his name.
Let us not talk falsely. This isn't about Harry Reid, the hard-working moderate. And this isn't about the passage of Health Care Reform, which benefits everybody. It's about Obama -- a smart, fearless, progressive liberal.
The subversive Bush-Cheney administration recklessly sabotaged, misled, and mismanaged this country for eight years. Let's give Obama and the Democrats more than two years to fix the damage. Let's make sure the Party of No remains a vocal minority.
Hey, Martin123,
Did you look @ INDEED.COM'S JOB POSTINGS???
What a JOKE!
If you want to work for BOA, the Military, or sign up for a BACK TO SCHOOL PROGRAM, yep, there are THOUSANDS of opportunities.
stevem, he's a beauty.
Two things strike me about this gathering:
1. Conservative leadership really is good at getting people that they offer no benefits to become cannon fodder on behalf of their selfish causes.
2. People's willingness to enrich those like Sarah Palin who play them for complete fools is something to behold. I sure wish I could emulate her and package half-baked demagoguery for profit!
There's a story on AOL that Dina Titus and Shelly Berkley were there, wonder why.
Check this Video out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilG7PCV4...
Tell me what you think of the video
Especially you right wingers come check this out..
YOU WILL LOVE THIS VIDEO
do you think we could use this on some GOP races....
Good point Sunjon,
Here are some more points that people who throw around the talking points of Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh etc, do not understand.
Private "for profit" companies making profits from prisons, and mercenaries (Blackwater), and if W had his way, Social Security is FACSISM
Here is a question for everyone, name 1 other country that has "for profit" insurance companies handling primary health care?
Should be easy, there is only ONE other country that does it.
Interesting... reminds me of the book written in 1841 by Charles Mckay: Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds. Great book on human behavior and those who need to join a group ( ie: parot talk radio such as "libs" etc.)
The opposite of the independant thinker or the lone wolf or American cowboy. The "herd mentality" as it was called by Einstein. In Mckays' book he details tulip mania and crowd frenzy. This Tea Party group citing "socialism" to explain the logical act of a country providing health care to its sick is exactly like Mckays account of "Witch Mania" where frenzied mobs burned those they were confused by at the stake. This work is heading for its second century but clearly there are many who still easily succumb to the joy of the hateful mob mentality despite many historic lessons such as Germany in 1938.
Palin is for amnesty for illegals, like McCain, so if 8,000 people show up like this, I guess Reid should introduce immigration reform after the two week recess.
Guess there is a lot of support for amnesty.
These teabag people could have done better than their cheap Sears Robuck Public Address system.
It is very amusing reading all the hate filled diatribe the left has for the tea party movement. A great number of the citizens fought during WWII and the ungrateful libs can only trash them....... sad, so sad.
EmperorJoe.... exactly
see...again...
you liberals whine and complain saying there are no jobs...
but when someone shows you that there ARE jobs...
all of them are "beneath" you.
Sarah Palin is the strongest leader of failure since George Bush!
Boy do alot of libs read this LV paper? What a bunch of complaining ole fools you are. You can't see the forest for the trees. Obama care is the worst ever and you all still think you'll be saving money instead of the opposite.
Wake up!!!!! Stop drinking the kool aid as one said.
This is one of my favorites from this love-filled group here:
"These religious and political extremists should be treated like the TRAITORS they are and ROUNDED UP!
Let's start by putting a big rope around this metastisizing NATIONAL CANCER in Searchlight and NIP IT IN THE BUD.
JAIL VIOLENT TEA-PARTY TRAITORS PERIOD."
Is that typical of the compassion and open-mindedness of the liberals? Is that the kind of change Obama was promising?
The posts here reminded me of this quote I read a few days ago:
"The danger to America is NOT Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency.
It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary Common Sense and Good Judgment to an Electorate willing to have such a man for their President.
The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere Symptom of what ails us.
Blaming the Prince of the Fools should not blind anyone to the vast Confederacy of Fools that made him their Prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama.
It is less likely to survive 'a Multitude of Fools' such as those who made him their President."
ladyat62--"Obama care is the worst ever and you all still think you'll be saving money instead of the opposite."
Thats a bit of an overstatement.
Besides you never answered my question to, know how strongly you oppose this bill and its movement towards socialism, do you support ending the prescription drug benefit portion of medicare? (Its socialized medicine pure and simple) And would you support ending medicare, I mean why keep that socialized medicine program around, you dont like socialists do you?
Are you aware Ronald Reagan campaigned and even made a record to fight medicare? He called it the door to socialism and said it was just the first step.
So are you advocating getting rid of medicare and the drug benefit to stop socialism or is it just "socialized medicine" for others you have a problem with.
Anyone one medicare is already an advocate for "socialized medicine" because they are using it.
JOE THE PLUMBER!!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS????
What are they thinking, there are some many good points to be made about the government bailing out the too big to fails and wasted money and you bring out JOE THE PLUMBER, excuse me Joe the plumbers assistant who thought just may be he might buy a business. Now he's getting stage time!! (he would fit better in the crowd i am sure there were a lot more accomplished people in the crowd and this guy is speaking)
Thats the kind of stupid stunts that lost the republicans the election. Stupid little Joe the Plumbers distractions and a governor who cant stop looking like an ass for a running mate.
coffeenottea--- great video, scary but thats the way most of the hysterical people are, afraid of this that or the other but cat justify their positions with facts. Emotional response. And how is this a government take over???? They actually run healthcare for over 35% of the population (by 2012 it will be over 50%)
Fidel Castro praises Obama Care.....THAT alone should wake people up....Fidel Castro.....lol
Hey guess what libtards...us white trash vote in mid-term elections...unlike your voters...we go to the polls and vote and you will hear us in November...so, blah, blah, blah....you ain't seen nothin' yet!
Thank you mddletoright. When people resort to name calling, it just serves to make them look ignorant. I too am moderate-to-right in my view, and while the tea party is not for me, I believe that they, like all Americans, have a right to their views.
Calling people "stupid", "racist", etc because they do not share the President's views is no better than calling people "unpatriotic" when Bush was in office when they did not hsare his views.
By the way, for those people who call Sarah Palin "stupid", I ask this. Have you ever been Governor of a state? Have you ever even been Mayor of a City? How about City Council? I did not think so. I would probably use words like "accomplished", "saavy", and "intelligent" to describe her.
But that is alright, you are entitled to your opinions. Your message is getting lost in your name calling and you are ensuring a major Republican victory this fall.
RobRBarron well so do they as was witness in Nov of 2008, unfortunately most the people you are talking bout going to the polls vote for socialist programs that they benefit from like medicare, the largest socialized medicine program on earth. Even though it is going to bankrupt us they will vote for anyone who promises them more.
And you people calling the tea party people racist just shows a weak mind and is sooo ineffective. Stop being stupid.
Sarah Palin's best example of a "common sense" solution to assassinations in America is Lock-n-load, see my cross-hairs. She is completely out of her mind. Are you irresponsible and insane too, tea baggers? Are you going to allow this nutjob that is Sarah Palin to turn loose one of your freaks to murder in your name?
After reading these comments... so much for the myth that progressives are tolerant 'intellectuals'.
Demo's say dumb things all the time, and the media turns a blind eye...People are getting tired of the media's double standard....
Ex.---Reid was impressed by Obama's candidacy during the primary campaign, and privately said the country was ready for a black president -- particularly a "light-skinned" one "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."
Now if a rebulbican said that....Well---you know what would have happened....
And...From Anita Dunn.....
Anita Dunn, the former White House communications director. Ms. Dunn's own words, the words she spoke where she praised Mao Tse-Tung as being one of the biggest influences in her life. That is NOT exactly what you want to hear from anyone in a leadership position in the White House.
Mao's policies and political purges from 1949 to 1975 are widely believed to have caused the deaths of between 50 to 70 million people
C'mon teabaggers, it's a legitimate question. Are you going to support Sarah Palin's call for some nutjob to assassinate a political figure?
I don't know about progressives, IOpian. I can tell you that liberals are neither tolerant or passive.
you are disgusting IOpian.
The "Tea Bagger" term is referring to the Boston Tea Party. A term coined prior to the gay men using it.......
Celeritas----Sara did not say anything about assassinating a politcal figure...This is the problem with the liberals making up things....
If anything violent occurs, it will be a plant by the democratic party to put blame on the tea partiers...
Hitler did it by burning downing one of Germany's government buildings putting blame on his opponents..
The Mormons did it with THE MORMON MASSACURE where they dressed up as Indians and killed many pioneers that they felt were a threat to their religion.
The Teabaggers are a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican Party. Their policies and ideas failed so miserably under Bush that they are ashamed to show their faces to the American voter, so they hide behind this new "movement" which is not grassroots at all but organized by the same GOP party hacks, and promoted by the same FAUX News lackeys. They hope independent swing voters (who decide elections) are as ignorant as the people at these rallies. Well, we are not, and can see right through this pathetic sham.
Harry is a man of the people - a real American hero - he is THE man!
Al Gore dumb saying....
"A zebra can't change his spots." -- Al Gore
Yes, she did steve10.
Today's tea baggers have absolutely nothing to do with the historical Boston Tea Party.
I have no idea what your reference to gay men is about. Maybe you should ask IOpian, the two of you seem to be dialed in.
Spot on, TheTruthis, thanks. But I'm worried about the permission Sarah gave to the nuttiest ones...
The real problem is...the liberals must be very terrified of the tea party movement. If they didn't find them a threat, they wouldn't be commenting on them as much as they have been.
Celerita---Please post her quote here for us to read.....
Watch out, there's a red under the bed.This attempt to give what should be a natural human right is going to so open up the doors to the commies. Getting my gun ready, getting supplies in, I'm ready for them. Meanwhile maybe Joe Blow next door will be able to find affordable Medical insurance even though he has diabetes and help stop them damn reds. Really when did Americans get so dumbed down by the words of politicians that they disregard their fellow Americans who through no fault of his own can not afford coverage but cheer so called figure heads who couldn't give a damn if you lived or died what ever your political persuasion. You are being sold the Brooklyn bridge people. Think for your selves.Not what the carpet baggers wants you to think. Think if you were unemployed with no affordable coverage for your family. Think for one minute about others in that situation. It's not politics people, it's human decency.
Steve10,
Sense you didn't notice, the Las Vegas Sun is commonly considered a "liberal" publication. (I don't think so, but compared to the LVRJ it's liberal). Liberals, therefore, naturally gravitate to it. But I've noticed more tea-baggers and GOP nutjobs than liberals. Why do you think that is? And why are you here and not commenting on the LVRJ site?
Celeritas----Facts threaten you, I see.....
This is America. I may read and comment on any site I feel fit. Now that is not very liberal of you is it?
Now if Sara Palin told you to go away, you would call the AFL-CIO and demand they remove her....
And also Cleritas, since you are noticing that there are more Tea Partiers here than liberals, then it appears that your opinions on how many liberals come to this site have been....um....over represented...
It's not my job to educate you, Steve10.
"It's not a time to retreat. It's a time to reload."
Sarah Palin should know better. There are nutjobs everywhere. It only take one to bring unspeakable horror to our door.
Why do you tolerate this from Sarah Palin? Why are you not mad as hell?
You can listen to/read et al at:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washingt...
Steve10,
I simply asked you why you were here, I didn't suggest in any way you were not entitled to post wherever you want.
You said, "The real problem is...the liberals must be very terrified of the tea party movement. If they didn't find them a threat, they wouldn't be commenting on them as much as they have been."
So, my question stands, why are you here? Because you like reading liberal's comments, or because you like deriding them.
Her name is spelled "Sarah."
What does the AFL-CIO have to do with the cost of tea bags in China?
Well, RELOAD is used as a figure of speech, Celeritas....or a metaphor.
Let me educate you on what a metaphor is..... (((Clearing throat here....))) A figure of speech in which a word or phrase that ordinarily designates one thing is used to designate another, thus making an implicit comparison, as in "a sea of troubles" or "All the world's a stage" (Shakespeare).l, reload is used as a metaphore here as it
Have a good night! I apprecitate that you could debate your difference of opinion in professional manner.
Maybe your right, Stevie10, maybe I over estimated the number of tea baggers who comment here. But I'm sorry, I'm not going to do a count.
In the meantime, have a nice evening. Thanks for playing.
Interesting to read the comments from people that were obviously not in Searchlight. The Metro spokesman is obviously a supporter and benefactor of Mr. Reids giving. Or it may simply be that he was counting cars, not the numbers of people in the cars. I have seen counted groups of 40+ thousand, and no, this group was not that big, but very close to 20,000 in number. It is regrettable that ALL people do not love this country and the freedoms that it is supposed to stand for. It is also regrettable that all those that by into the socialist "redistribution" of wealth do not see it as it truly is --- Stealing from one to give to another. I guess that is Okay as long as you are receiving and not being stolen from.
Sara, Sarah, potato, potatoe.....Oh my
Palin speaking to that crowd of Kool Aid drinkers is like the Dumb leading the Dumber.
If she is their idea of a leader then that speaks volumes of those that attended.
Thank G-d those people are in the minority in this country, they seem to be more than they are because the media likes to play them up just like they like to play up all the freak show news in the last many years.
I think it's amusing that the likes of Palin,Glen Beck. Slush Limburger, Vannity and the rest of thegarbage gasbags are these people's idols and leaders.
What's also amusing is that let one of them get in financial trouble, lose a job, lose their health care and they'll be the first to start whining to the government for help. yet, now they'll bad mouth all the people who because of Bush's economy have lost their jobs, lost their homes, lost their healthcare, even though they've worked hard all their lives.
And they call themselves "Good Americans" and their favorite,"Good Christians". "Good Christians" as long as they're allowed to practice hypocrisy whenever they want to.
And what's really,really amusing is that Palin and the others are laughing at everyone of them all the way to the bank but they're too gullible and small minded stupid to realize it.
Balin' Palin........she's a comedy tour all on her own.
Reid has my vote!!!
Unbelieveable, I cannot believe Americans actually follow this idiots PALIN and COULTER. This makes these Americans stupid. With the Dollar collapsing, Thanks to BUSH with all the Medicare and prescriptions entitlements, and the 2 wars. individuals all over the world will be buying items in the states for pennies on the dollar!
Silly soccer moms and "true Americans with Values", who between watching Dancing with the Stars and "Maury Povich" shows are actually believing these 2 women are actually capable of leading this country! I wonder how Palin would have handle the Nuclear Arms deal with Russia, there country "she can See". PUTIN would have eaten up alive!
I was up in Vancouver for the Olympics and there were free financial workshops telling Canadians that can easily buy Real esate in the US for pennies. This has to do with the falling value if the American dollar. The top econimists figure it will cost us$2.50 for 1 C$1.00 in the next 5 years. The Canadian dollar will be the most valued currency in the world in the next 5-10 years! And that on top of the falling real estate values due to the foreclosures! And these workshops are being held all over the country, millions of Canadians will be buying US real estate for close to 80% off!
Everything will be suddenly become 50% more expensive, simply due to the falling value of the US DOLLAR! And it will be silly SUV driving, Walmart buying idiots who are more concerned about American values and Palin/Coulter than the economy that will be losing their houses first and will be unable to retire, TRUE AMERICAN VALUES!
THOMAS SAN DIEGO
I'm glad their little party went well. Good attendence, nobody got hurt. Probably not a lot of new ideas there though. Sarah Palin seems to be getting a lot of publicity out of this Tea Bagger thing. Sad to see honest, sincere people getting used by such a shallow rabble-rouser.
"Anita Dunn, the former White House communications director. Ms. Dunn's own words, the words she spoke where she praised Mao Tse-Tung as being one of the biggest influences in her life. That is NOT exactly what you want to hear from anyone in a leadership position in the White House."
Except she said her other biggest influence was Mother Teresa. That's what most of us normal people would call a joke, you know... juxtaposing two opposite things? You seem to lack a sense of humor or knowledge of the basic facts of the speech. Go look it up and turn off Limbaugh and Beck, or at least begin to VERIFY what you hear.
"Sara did not say anything about assassinating a political figure...This is the problem with the liberals making up things...."
No, she made up lies about death panels, instead. Then she used the word "RELOAD" when trying to rally her troops, and said she was "targeting" elected members of Congress with SARAHPAC's rifle-scope imagery. You may want to excuse that kind of barbaric and disgusting rhetoric, but I won't.
Her rhetoric has gotten more and more heated and nonsensical as time goes on, and we've seen the consequences of Palin and those on the right instilling FEAR into people, rather than rallying them with FACTS.
It's the same thing that happened during the campaign, when Sarah would give speeches and people in the crowd would shriek out violent threats against Obama. She's well aware that she's not arguing the facts, just the fear.
Serve them tea and donuts holes. Thank you Harry!
Let's see......
TeaParty stumping for freedoms and liberties, allegely not aligned with a particular party.....
Sarah Palin stumping for John McCain's political seat and the TP movement, JM more moderate than JD Hayworth who actually aligns himself with the TP movement.....
TeaPartiers ballyhooing about "less government" but yet taking government subsidies ie MC, UEI....
Conservatives stumping for JD Hayworth but showing up to McCains stump party because of the "diva".
WOW!....
Total schizophrenia.....and real Americans are to take these folks seriously???!!!!
Harry Reid should take comfort, he has nothing to worry about come November....really.
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.
"I'm happy so many people came to see my hometown of Searchlight and spend their out-of-state money, especially in these tough economic times," Reid said. "This election will be decided by Nevadans, not people from other states who parachuted in for one day to have a tea party."
LMBO....I didn't know you had it in you....it's all about the "Benjamins". LOL!
"Sarah says those protesting the health care overhaul aren't inciting violence, but says they shouldn't sit down and shut up."
Let's let Rep. John Lewis and Rep. Emanuel Cleaver gives us their take.
blister8 says....."and no, this group was not that big, but very close to 20,000 in number."
Anything under 50,000 is a "crapshoot." A Lakers game does better than that. Get outta the spin zone while you can.
"Except she said her other biggest influence was Mother Teresa. That's what most of us normal people would call a joke, you know... juxtaposing two opposite things?"
First, even in her later defense of her original Mao statement she did not state that is was a joke.
This joke thing is just something that ksand99 is making out of the thin air in his head.
Here is a video of her making that statement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYOfNB2ig...
She does not just make a burb about Mao. She goes into detail on why we should follow Mao's example of hanging in there when times get tough. Perhaps, he struggled with coming up with ways to kill millions of his own citizens.
If she just wanted to make a joke then why present in detail Mao's struggles and his victory in over coming those problems.
If it was a "juxtaposing" joke then it would have been a simple Mao burb.
So now....all can see that ksand99 is just a person that is trying to fool you about the truth.
Go watch the video.
Use your own brain, ears and eyes and come to your own conclusion.
Tea Party - at least 20,000
The pro-Reid rally around the corner from the rally - at least 25
Anything under 50,000 is a "crapshoot." A Lakers game does better than that. Get outta the spin zone while you can.
Of course no one in the media report the only assault that occurred all day at Tea Party events in Searchlight and Henderson; that of Sen. Reid supporters in Searchlight hitting the Tea Party Express buses with eggs. Class act on their part.
Then on channel 13 news at 11PM, Rep. Titus is asked about the Tea Party rally and she refers to the Tea Party participants as "Tea Baggers." For a woman who has a doctorate in Political Science, I expect much more professionalism from my congressional representative. Rep. Titus has absolutely no class and should issue an apology post haste!
Titus is a worthless wind bag.
She never had any class so it is OK for her to show no class.
Way to go DIna. I love it.
the only wmd ever found was sarah and her worshipers yesterday.
hey middletoright, like how you left out about 99.9999999 of the bible's teaching on rich folks.
drive those rv's due south to mexico, cause rich people just love their illegal maids, gardeners, construction workers, on and on.
Give 'em hell, Harry Reid! I hope your wife recovers well. Good luck in November! We need you in Washington.
Those who follow Sarah's Circus are simply the low information dumb as a post extreme right wing wing nuts who like the Republican party are determined to finish destroying the parts of this country Bush and Cheney didn't get to.
Drink her Kool Aid,...but don't forget to get your new purple tennis shoes,...look nice as your cult leader takes you over the cliff.
Damn,...people are stupid!
Let's go over some of the Democrat themes in these comments.
Freedom to assemble is ok, as long as you're a member of a union and it's in support of Democrats.
Freedom of expression is ok, as long as you're a member of a union and it's in support of Democrats.
Freedom of religion is ok, as long as it's a Demomcrat religion.
Get the picture? Seems like under Democrats the only freedom you have is what they allow you.
Except she said her other biggest influence was Mother Teresa. That's what most of us normal people would call a joke, you know... juxtaposing
Well, Ksand99---I guess she resigned for another reason then...Hmmmm what could it have been? Maybe for constantly sticking her tongue out when she is talking...giving a new meaning to a lap dog.
Besides, she never said she was comparing opposites. If she had explained that she was just "juxtposing", then she still might have her cushy position in the White House..
And again she used Reload as a metaphor.....Now if you want to talk about violence, look at Bill Ayers....
I think Bill Ayers blew up government buildings and got away with his terrorist attacks and went on to become a professor, a distinguished profesor....But that's ok....because he is a liberal...Right?...and when they blow up buildings, it's for a good reason.
HAHAHAHA ... Palin hosted a Retirement Party.. HAHAHA ... nothing but a bunch of old people who get government Medicare, Government Social Security sitting around in their dirty Depends ...
HAHAHA - It was a RETIREMENT PARTY - nothing but OLD PEOPLE living off the government.
Teabaggers are the present day Weather Underground group ... nothing but a group of domestic terrorists who are committing terrorist acts against elected leaders - and Sarah Palin is the leader to those terrorists.
Ya know, her husband belongs to an organization that hates the United States, AIP.
Palin hosted a Retirement Party for a bunch of OLD people who live off the GOVERNMENT because they are too lazy to work.
How can anyone stop someone, for what they believe in? Why would I want you to not believe in what you want to? Not that I believe in the tea party click, but the idea that you can meet with people and discuss what's on your mind is invaluable. Every ones opinion is important.
Typical loonie strategy posting comments here ... when you cannot defend the issues being criticized, resort to personal character assasination. It worked so well for Obama. It doesn't work anymore because it has become too obvious. The lies and false accusations are simply countered with the truth ... FACTS, try it some time.
Facts like how the healthcare bill was written by lobbyist and lawyers behind closed doors, negating any interventions on behalf of the people. Facts like how it was shoved down our throats in the wee hours of the morning and on Christmas Eve. Ask yourself why. Why did the votes get rushed through before the Easter recess? Was it to silence YOUR voice?
Facts that now prove that the majority, yes the majority in the Senate and House, had never even read the bill, including your presidential puppet. Where are the things they claim? Are the bribes still there? Do children get insurance for pre-existing conditions? Are the CBO numbers believable? Are abortions paid for with federal funds? Will forcing cost prohibitive conditions on business refresh the economy and mean new jobs? By cutting Medicaid for seniors and adding millions who have never paid a dime in taxes in their lives result in more good doctors who choose to work for a pittance with one hand tied behind their backs. If this bill is so good, why did the politicians and current government exclude their own participation in it?
Reform should have been limited to the issues that would really have corrected actual problems. Corrective issues like the insurance industry could have been addressed in a single bill that didn't cost taxpayers a dime. Open up the free market by allowing insurance to be sold across state lines. Tort reform to limit legal abuse of the medical practitioners works well in states. Let the government pay for healthcare provided to welfare recipients. The SCHIP program already provides healthcare insurance to children (up to the age of 31) in income eligibility up to $120,000 in some states.
The radical left, Harry Reid etc, do not want you to know the facts. Turn off their lies and start dealing with facts. Do the research yourself. Don't believe them. Don't believe me. The truth is readily available for those who look. Replace the current majority with legislators who know who they are working for. Repeal this bill and replace it with some that target actual problems.
Join those in the know and become part of the movement to save our country.
"Teabaggers are the present day Weather Underground group ... nothing but a group of domestic terrorists who are committing terrorist acts against elected leaders - and Sarah Palin is the leader to those terrorists."
Some good points......
One point you correct state that the Weather Underground group was a terrorist group. One of the members of this group was the person who helped started Obama's political career and who has never apologized for his actions.
Second point comparing an terroist group that bomb buildings and kill people to random acts of upset people who call or email or fax in mean stuff is comparing a rocket ship to a water pistol.
Third point, the people who spew hateful words like "TeaBaggers" which would qualify yourself as a terrorist if we used your weak logic to define a terrorist.
So now are you going to whine about Obama association with a terrorist from the group you mention?
Are you going to call yourself a terrorist?
Nope....hypocrite...............
Fact:All bills for 235 years have been written in rooms with doors on them by staffers, lawyers and lobbyists.
Fact: Congressmen and Senators for 235 years have voted on bills read by and written by staffers who inform the people they work for what they are voting on.
Fact: Policies solve problems and anger does not
On a side note .... for the young people questioning grandparents' hypocrisy, if they collect Social Security and Medicare ... your grandparents and the whole generation since, have PAID for their benefits with taxes and Social Security withholdings all of their lives. Those federal funds earmarked for their old age were raided over the years and placed with IOUs. They are not hypocrites expecting handouts ... they earned every penny and have provided toward the care of others previously with their contributions. So before anyone tries to change horse mid-stream, know that there will be a little blue haired old lady ready to teach you a lesson in life.
Actually real time benefits of social security and medicare are paid by todays workers and employers with payroll taxes. People are not paid back what they paid in they get back much more than they paid in. It's all based on more workers the benefit recipients.
From WIKI;
The first reported Social Security payment was to Ernest Ackerman, who retired only one day after Social Security began. Five cents were withheld from his pay during that period, and he received a lump-sum payout of seventeen cents from Social Security.
The first monthly payment was issued on January 31, 1940 to Ida May Fuller of Ludlow, Vermont. In 1937, 1938 and 1939 she paid a total of $24.75 into the Social Security System. Her first check was for $22.54. After her second check, Fuller already had received more than she contributed over the three-year period. She lived to be 100 and collected a total of $22,888.92.
Some companies are recognizing that the provisions in the new healthcare bill will cost them millions of dollars that they don't have. Their choices are simple, dump the retiree health/drug benefits and let the government take care of it or lay off existing workers.
Speaking out, so far they include AT&T, Verizon, Caterpillar, Deere, Valero Energy, AK Steel and 3M, some of the nation's biggest companies, are saying it will mean higher costs and fewer benefits -- all agree that a tax provision in the new health care law will make it far more expensive to provide prescription drug coverage to their retired employees. Now, both retirees and current employees of those companies are wondering whether the new law could mean reduced or canceled benefits for them in the future.
The news is an embarrassment for Democrats. As President Obama and congressional leaders tout the purported benefits of the new health care law, some of the nation's biggest companies are saying it will mean higher costs and fewer benefits -- not exactly what Democrats want to hear in the days after their historic victory. These statements from large private companies resulted in more intrusive government control into private industry.
Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, has summoned some of the nation's top executives to Capitol Hill to defend their assessment that the new national health care reform law will cost their companies hundreds of millions of dollars in health insurance expenses. Waxman is also demanding that the executives give lawmakers internal company documents related to health care finances. Waxman's demands came Friday in letters to several executives. "After the president signed the health care reform bill into law, your company announced that provisions in the law could adversely affect your ability to provide health insurance," ... Waxman's letter suggests he does not accept the company's decision. "The new law is designed to expand coverage and bring down costs, so your assertions are a matter of concern,"
Waxman's demands for documents are far-reaching. The executives will undoubtedly view such documents as confidential, but if they fail to give Waxman everything he wants, they run the risk of subpoenas and threats from the chairman. And all as punishment for making a business decision in light of a new tax situation.
HEIL OBAMANATION!
Slightly smaller profits for corporate america better health for all americans.
I'll take that trade off.
If I had to chose personally between the health of my children and money in the bank it's a pretty easy choice.
The left also wants everyone to believe that the Tea Party people are old, toothless, and white...That is sooo not true. There are people of color out there. I haven't seen one toothless one yet, and I have seen many people of all ages out there. I think we call them TAX PAYERS. The silent majority, the sleeping giant, has awoken.
The proof of the sleeping giant awakening is Ted Kennedy's seat being taken by a Republican, an unheard of act. Ted Kennedy held his seat as a very liberal politician for 46 years. He was a senator in the most liberal of states. The people of MA spoke up, and apparently nobody listened. Why would MA elect a Republican to replace good ole boy Ted if everyone was so happy with the current administration? That is and out and out slap in the face to Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.
Now here comes Scott Brown, a Rebublican, and shocks the nation with his win of a traditionally held democratic seat. The news media is in a tizzy with that one, trying to down play this amazing feat. The media is also trying to down play the tea party movement, aka average tax paying citizens, because they are terrified that all the democratic seats up for the election this Nov. will turn to Rebulbican or other. If that happens, the dominoe effect will continue in two more years with a clean sweep, removing the majority of the remaining democratic seats up for election in 2012.
So what is the left to do? They are trying to make the tea party people look like crazy, toothless, racist, terrorists. Their plan is failing....They are just adding more fuel to the fire. (I meant that as a figure of speech.)
I was at the showdown in the desert tea party yesterday ... I saw 2 black people.
I saw millions of dollars in $100k motor homes, mercedes, corvettes and Harleys and $30,000 pick up trucks...... these people have some money left over after they paid their taxes.............
I see that just the mention of "Sarah Palin" brings out all the "nut jobs" on the left...
The weather yesterday was cold and windy, people were bundled in blankets waiting for the half-term governor from Alaska. Sara takes to the podium and says " it's such a warm and sunny day today"
WTF ????
Since minorities, and specifically African Americans, have been co-opted and exploited by the Democrats and the left, they are extremely unlikely participants in an essentially anti big government, liberty based movement except where economic diversity and success has given way to individualism and enlightened self interest within various ethnic communities. In other words, the minority of minorities will tend to be small in number at such gatherings as simple logic would dictate.
They, African Americans, unfortunately represent one of the largest recipients of governmental redistributive largess, such that to become participants in a movement that would seem to rock the boat of state, would be against the interests of the majority who receive such government redistributive largess. Indeed, since the majority of the minority are not full and successful participants in the prosperity of the unassisted private sector, they have little or no stake in the defense of the private sector from the withering assaults of a redistributionist government
Compared to Alaska, it probably was a warm and sunny day for her.
"People are not paid back what they paid in they get back much more than they paid in."
Not a good arguement, RSN. Bread used to cost 25 a loaf, too. Although, the disgruntled progressive resents paying for the elderly hypocrisy.
More examples would be this scenario ...
My mother worked her whole life. She contributed to Social Security through payroll taxes, and her federal and state taxes contributed to the care of those who needed assistant on ever growing welfare and unemployment enrollments. When she retired at 68, she was making six figures, kept her own private health insurance ... and died before collecting one single social security retirement benefit.
For every example there are others to demonstrate a fact.
Remember that.
Or maybe she has become part of that "elite" that drop into a place in a million dollar helicopter read a script then jump back into a million dollar ride and never even feel the cold her followers are braving to see her and touch her.
Then off to count her money...............
God bless your mother that never collected her social security or medicare she is truly a great american. Her story does not change fact. Fact is that todays benefits are paid by todays workers and employers that is the way the system works. That is the way the system has always worked.
"Slightly smaller profits for corporate america better health for all americans. I'll take that trade off."
Very shortsighted of you.
These are the companies who EMPLOY people.
Cost prohibitive healthcare has a negative effect on JOBS. Without jobs there are more collecting UNEMPLOYMENT benefits, and if the precedent continues WELFARE benefits, and recently you get to pay down the mortgages that they never could afford and are defaulting on.
Yours in a prime example of the indoctrination of the left.
The evidence shows that delays in the public health care system are widespread and patients die as a result of waiting lists for public health care" - Supreme Court of Canada, June, 2005
"Fact is that todays benefits are paid by todays workers and employers that is the way the system works. That is the way the system has always worked."
Exactly. And THAT is the way it worked when my mother paid into it, as it was for every single person collecting Social Security today. They paid in their youth for their old age assistance.
The argument that you and others try to make is that the elderly are "hypocrites" for collecting benefits that they are entitled to now, when in fact they are simply receiving what they are entitled to and have contributed to in youth.
MUCH UNLIKE the following scenario:
Food stamp customers, you can get health insurance!
Ask about Medicaid and the Alliance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgmgOQ0qq...
This is what your country has been destroyed for ... her job is spitting out 7 kids without any income to support them.
>COFFEE PARTY MISSION STATEMENT: The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation in government. We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will, and that we must participate in the democratic process in order to address the challenges that we face as Americans. As voters and grassroots volunteers, we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them.<
For every TeaParty that stands on FEAR and obstructs, there's a Coffee Party that engages Americans in offering and EXECUTING solutions.
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Excuse me sir the word hypocrite is not in any post I have made.
We are entitled to our own set of opinions but we are not entitled to our own set of facts.
Now I must leave the debate for I must go to sunday services and listen to the teachings of the greatest community organizer the world has ever known, Jesus Christ.
Perhaps I will hear his teachings on social justice today. (smile)
Coffee Party, Aliante, Nature's Discovery Park, March 28, 2010, 2:00-4:00pm.
Bring ideas, not your yellowbellies. We need warriors, not obstructionists hell bent on "do nothing policy".
Gee, listen to all the tough talk from Reid supporters, despite the fact that his poll numbers are doing an excellent impression of a submarine.
I haven't heard this much whistling past the graveyard since Jon Corzine's last election.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out of D.C., Harry. And don't forget -- you can get free cardboard boxes at Walmart if you show up when they're doing inventory.
I wonder how many would have turned up if it was raining?
yeahmaybeyoureright wrote: "COFFEE PARTY MISSION STATEMENT: The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation in government."
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Oh, please ... what you meant to say was, "The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation WITH the Obama government."
Give it up, already. We all know the Coffee Party was founded by Obama operative Annabel Park, whose Twitter Tweets (/annabelpark) reveal her secret disdain for the Tea Party (or as she calls them, "tea baggers"). Don't ya just love that kind of civility in politics!
On top of that, the Coffee Party claims to be independent of political parties, yet its Web site is registered to Real Virginians for Webb (as in Democrat Sen. Jim Webb).
In other words, the Coffee Party is what you get when you try to grow beans on Astroturf.
StillSmiling says, "Oh, please ... what you meant to say was, "The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation WITH the Obama government."
The proof is in the pudding....lol....ya'll are so easy.
Like I said before, "Bring ideas, not your yellowbellies. We need warriors, not obstructionists hell bent on "do nothing policy"
Off to church to worship the Most High who provides ALL my needs, therefore I need not be fearful of anything, including mankind.
TTFN!
RSN, I would bet you asked every one of those people what kind of job they had to afford them their nice stuff,and if they owned them or are they paying payments, lots of questions to at least justify such a shallow comment.Because, someone has nice stuff, must mean they have lots of money and by god, if thats the case, the dems need to impose higher taxes because we can't have that here. I will venture a bet that none of their "nice stuff" was from a govt handout.Your comment should be saved when the illegals all get together for their share of the entitlement, THEN, you can say, look at all those nice cars and motorhomes and KNOW where theirs came from.
I may not agree with all of the tea party, I don't know how I feel about Palin, I do know Obama and his followers are the racist, funny how they have done more to divide this country than the Right.
I am just happy people are finally standing up for what they believe.
Good-Bye to Harry and his thugs, he gets a pass from the left on his racist comments, light skinned no dialect, if Palin had made the statement we would have roasted and skewered her.
I haven't made up my mind who I will vote for, it want be Harry and BO, one and the same. I will not be voting for Dina Titus either.
Independence is a good thing, that is what this AA is now.
"LOVING AMERICA IN LAS VEGAS"
Sarah Palin was energetic and absolutely had us all electricfied. She is an excellent motivational speaker and welcomed. Thank You Sarah! Can't wait for the next rally! A very, very remarkable event I witnessed yesterday. Harry Reid has a national approval rating of a whopping 8% and was reflected in yesterday's crowd. To officially put Nevada's worst politician ever to serve public office on notice of his looming last days in office was invigorating!
We also must rid Nevada of the awful Shelly Berkley in CD-1 and Dina Titus in CD-3. You have great people ready to fight and properly represent you, the people. Remember, these people will work for YOU. Berkley and Titus feel we work for them. Folks, it's the arrogance in Washington today that Berkley and Titus feel who cares what the people think! You don't have to take it. JUST VOTE THEM OUT!
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RSN, you are wrong. The social security package, when created was set up in much the same fashion as your B-Ho's healthcare package. You pay into it for several years to build a trust fund. The problem with SS is, the dems forgot to calc the number of baby boomers all retiring, and of course govt can't stand any funds just laying around so they constantly pilphered that trust fund,until its broke, adding in the lying, cheating and abuse of the funds, but, we don't expect any of that type of thing to happen with this govt run program like it did with SS and Medicare, right? Maybe you don't know but, once govt sets a standard, it NEVER goes away, good money after bad, and then the people wonder why more money being dumped into these programs don't work. Read your history, it tells volumes,but your party just doesn't get it.Bigger govt doesn't make it better, it just takes away more of your freedoms, entitles people to handouts that we all pay for, and removes the american dream of success, because the more successful you are, the more the govt takes, so who wants to work hard for the govt to take more, with you having less choices of how your money is spent.Tell me what pride is there, in never striving for success, because the govt will hand it to you via someone elses money? Medicaid, welfare and Obamacare, all handouts, paid by someone elses employment required contributions.
ILoveCoffee, but it makes me pee a lot...
Real Americans drink beer and eat pickled eggs...
There is still time to co-sign this historic legislation for Health Care Reform, and contribute to the Democratic cause to help re-elect good Senators and Congresspeople like Reid and Pelosi who worked hard to make health care a right for all Americans:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/h...
Your right about one thing , Healthcare reform is now the law of the land and it's never going away just light social security and medicare.
The GOP is already rising money on "repeal the bill" all the while knowing they will never repeal the bill. Just more nonsense from the right.
Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and the other entitlements will one day be significantly reduced or eleminted.
Right now Social Security and Medicare carry over a $100 trillion unfunded liability.
In the 1970s, CBO gave an estimated of the cost of Medicare for the 1990's. There underestimated the cost 10 fold.
When Social Security started the employee paid a 1% tax and the employer a 1% cut.
Now both employer and employee pay a 7.5% and it is still not enough money.
Just like communism, all ponzi scams come to an end.
These programs are burying the USA under an ever growing mountain of debt.
That debt will come crashing down on our children's heads one day.
"a wise and frugal government which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned-this is the sum of good government." thomas jefferson.
yes, this is another great part about this bill!!!! In Harrys infinite wisdom, he put a clause in the bill, that states it can NEVER, EVER be amended, unheard of in the history of this country, therefore, over time, as economics change, population changes, cost of living changes, this stupid bill, will be out of date, obsolete, worthless,BUT, we will be rquired to continue to drop money into it, and NEVER EVER amend it. What idiot would ever put that kind of restriction on a law? Oh wait, Harry, B-Ho and Pelosi.
and where in our constitution does it say that socialized healthcare is a right of passage? The right we have is the free agency to choose, not this, forced to have it or be fined crap.
Social Security Wage Base Remains is $106,800 if we up that to $250,000 that will extend solvency beyond 2050.
Where was all this worry about debt when our former Vice President , the great white hunter, stated and I quote " deficients don't matter" ?
Here we go with the facts again.
Socialized healthcare would be a great thing, it would be single payer where the government pays all the bills. Or maybe better yet the government owns all the hospitals and all the doctors and nurses are government employees.
The USA did not have socialized before healthcare reform and the USA doesn't have socialized healthcare after reform.
Private insurance companies still in business with 32 million more customers soon to be added. Hospitals still for profit. Doctors still can make millions if they want. Still billions of profit to be had in the healthcare industry.
Lipton, where does it say in the Constitution that I am required to carry mandatory auto insurance coverage, or I get a fine of $250 from the state?
It doesn't. So, does this make it ok to further take away our rights? You all say, we already have this or that socialized program,why do you want more socialized programs that take us steps closer to total socialism? and further reduce your free agency to choose?
RSN, I have a question for you? I have watched and listened very closely to our states economic downturn as well as our countries. I go on these newspaper comments sections and read all the comments and of course, add my 2 cents!!! In all of my findings, the concensus has been, govt is bloated, govt wastes money, govt spends too much money, fire all the state workers, firemen abuse the system, schools are lowest in nation and we continue to throw money down this black hole, why in the He88 would you even suggest, govt owns hospitals,doctors and nurses and govt pays all the bills? haven't you learned anything at all with what is happening within our own state and the hatred people have for govt employees and "they" are paying their wages,blah, blah, blah.
I beg to differ with you RSN, it will be subsidized, monitored and controlled by the govt.Private insurance will be run out of business. what competition will there be with govt subsidized healthcare? none. they would have to raise their fees to the point on one can afford private healthcare, and all of america will be forced into govt subsidized care, not just when they retire with medicare, but for their whole lives. you are correct in that, hospitals doctors nurses all in the medical field will be paid for, monitored and run by the govt. That is very scarey to me and thousands of others, if you haven't noticed, to have the govt dictate to me my need and necessary healthcare.
To the tea party express,
What are you people in support of? All I hear is WE ARE AGAINST THIS AND WE ARE AGAINST THAT. Whatever happened to intelligent debate or solutions to problems? You remember the kids that used to bully and make fun of kids in school? Thats what you people are becoming. Im sorry to say it but its hard to beleive that you people even have a plan other than defeat democrats. I hear people saying how some of Americas biggest corporations might lose a little money because of health reform. BFD. They have made billions off the back of the working man. Then I hear OBAMA is a SOCIALIST.
How many tea party express supporters shop at Wal Mart? Im willing to say all of you. How much does COMMUNIST CHINA depend on Wal Mart for their GDP? About 80-90 percent, but the prices are so low. When will you people get a clue? Normally I wouldnt even get involved in political debate with misinformed people, and usually Im the one with the anti government rhetoric, but from what my educated eyes see, people like Sarah Palin have forced big government on us, not Obama. How so?
When you work hand and hand with Corporations(EXXON, BP...) and work for their best intrests, what happens is you undermine the average Americans best intrests. Every large corporation in this country puts money before people, so obviously they have no moral fiber, so if I have to explain that in this situation these corporations will do anything the law allows them to so that they get the upperhand. Therefore if we dont have govt regulation then what? screw all the little people? To all the real people that want to get involved with solutions instead of name calling, check out THE COFFEE PARTY.
they tried the debate thing,they tried the working together, democrats made excuses for not including the republicans in the decision making. you haven't been paying attention to what the party is about? I thought dems were all over it. or maybe tea party doesn't ring any bells, which is only a portion of it. whats up with this coffee party? never heard of anything so dumb. gotta copy the republicans only opposite?I think Obamas words were, either get on board or sit down and shut up, and I think Harrys words were, this is the democrats plan and the democrats will pass it, with or without the republican support. Not sure why Wal Mart was brought up, you also didn't mention if you had boycotted them because of the slave labor.
corporations will do anything the law allows them to so that they get the upperhand. Therefore if we dont have govt regulation then what? screw all the little people? Lets see, how often have we seen the big corporation called govt screw the little people? and if you read these threads, I do believe the democrats here, own the racist name calling category, so maybe your eyes aren't as educated as you thought.
It's a shame Sarah forgot to take her medication once again...her mouth is just flapping once again
Earlier in the day, Palin cheered on the beating of two libertarians at a rally for McCain in Mesa AZ.
Lowden is cut from the same cloth. She excluded many from the Republican Party, She won't say where the mysterious loan came from for her to buy a casino.
RSN---see quote below...
The evidence shows that delays in the public health care system are widespread and patients die as a result of waiting lists for public health care" - Supreme Court of Canada, June, 2005
Seems you did too, Baby.
its working great!!!! Listen to them squeeling!!! Maybe when Sarah gets done taking medication that you think she needs, she could share with Biden the gaffer.
lectrocuda, thanks for that Coffee plug, it really is refreshing to be involved in serious debate with others who are seriously ti-red of partisan politics and hacks like Sarah Painful and Ann Couture.....let's roll back our sleeves and put some ideas on the table.
"Biden the gaffer" singlehandedly brought 3 senate votes no to yes for health care.
Why did the tea-bagger forget the rally? They forgot to write the directions on their hand.
did he now? and what was the payoff? Not exactly something to be proud of.Corruption in the white House runs rampid.Speaking of white house, with all this racist slander being thrown around by the democrats, I wonder if the big B-Ho will rally for the name to be changed, maybe the green house, beige house or even the out house.
mrt, notes on the hand are much better than not knowing anything without your teleprompter and your writer. Not a thing wrong with notes, is that it? maybe you could make fun of the nail polish color she used, something valuable for debate. amazing.
The United States spends much more money on health care than Canada, on both a per-capita basis and as a percentage of GDP.In 2006, per-capita spending for health care in Canada was US$3,678; in the U.S., US$6,714. The U.S. spent 15.3% of GDP on health care in that year; Canada spent 10.0%. In 2006, 70% of health care spending in Canada was financed by government, versus 46% in the United States. Total government spending per capita in the U.S. on health care was 23% higher than Canadian government spending, and U.S. government expenditure on health care was just under 83% of total Canadian spending.
Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found.
I have read these same statistics you post. Then if you go to another site, they will tell you in opposition of socialized medicine, that more people die from violent crimes in the US and in Canada more people die because they have a longer waiting period for medical attention. So, depending on where you look, you can always find an answer that you want to hear.So, go to the sites that give you the answer you want to hear, then go to the opposing views, and form your own opinion.
As far as hatred for government employees, WTF ???. I don't even hate teabaggers or even hate haters.
Government employees are people I went to high school with, people I went to college with, people I attend church with, people that my kids go to school with their kids. They love and laugh and cry just like all the rest of us. Heck they even pay taxes. Government employees are people I love and people I argue with. They are well, people.
Anger and hate can not solve problems, but sound government policies can.
RSN, if you go back to any article pertaining to the shorfall of this state, and read the comments people post about state workers, whether NDOT, police, firemen, DMV, whoever,the majority of the posters call them names,say fire them all, they are lazy, they don't deserve a paycheck,cut their pay in half, thats all they deserve, on and on, so yeah,wtf.and these are the same people that want bigger govt.So when these govt employees start making high 6 figure salaries,abusing the system, and we are in a recession, who will you want to cut or fire, hospitals, their services, doctors, nurses, who?
What I've learned is that instead of wearing white sheets and pointy hats, today's racists wear revolutionary costumes.
I for one think it was great seeing all of those gray haired medicare SOCIALIST at the tea party protesting SOCIALISM the irony (and hypocritical aspect) where priceless.
Socialism, Socialism, Socialism bla bla, all the while we benefit from pure unadulterated SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. Socialized Medicine to a greater extent than most of Europe in fact. Of course they never bothered protesting that "socialism" and I would bet 99% have no idea Ronald Reagan campaigned against medicare because it was "SOCIALIZED MEDICINE" far more socialized than this bill. Where were the bozos in the colonial uniforms when prescription drug benefits were added in 2003???????????????????????????????
Didnt mind us borrowing future generations earning then did "ya".
coffee, those people are part of a colonial drum band. trying to divert the disgust of racism from the history of the democrat party as a trait of the republican party is futile. It seems the only people making remarks about racism are the democrats here.
coffee party!!! dumb name. what is the significance of the name other than a democrat telling their little sheep we'll start a party with a name just opposite of the tea party. Whats its value? why coffee? does it have a history value? wait, it does!!! columbian coffee bean. In support of Columbia, and all their people being welcomed here for handouts. Great idea!!Maybe Hugo Chavez from Venezuela can chime in as well.Maybe you could have another club called the pot party too!!!!
Lipton-- while you bring up valid points, the whole democrat- racist policy thing is just as dumb as the rep racist policy argument. (maybe you do it on purpose to show others how weak and irrelevant the argument is.)
Tea Party !!!! wait is the significance derived from the old saying "All the tea in China" to signify the generation of most of the tea party,that began out sourcing and sending all of our manufacturing base to china so they can have cheaper ( or thats the argument) stuff and the Chinese will have the money to lend us to pay for their "SOCIALIZED MEDICINE"? (not to mention make all those affordable flags and nifty colonial outfits at affordable prices for people on "fixed incomes") Maybe they can get some silk robes and Chairman Mao posters next time to show there gratitude for the "socialized medicine" we are paying for with the money they lend us.
Yes, in "Hannity's America", the Democrats are the racists and the TP just wants "its" America to return to its pre-Civil War utopia.
sorry to disappoint your arguement but, those people are all part of a colonial drum band!!!!so lets also make fun of them, pretty pitiful, don't you think?
Boston Tea Party there martin. Still no one has given us the significance of the "coffee club" No martin, the only people on these threads crying racist is the democrat posters.
cheaters always think somebody is cheating them liers always think everybody is lying, racists think everybody else is racist. keep that to yourselves,maybe start another club called, we are no longer a racist party, trying to convince everyone they are no longer that party, they try to convince everyone repubs are. democrats are always bringing it up. why don't they just knock it off? to quote the big B-Ho, sit down, shut up and deal with it. freedom of speech, unless you all are trying to make that go away as well. chinese will be the second language,only cause spanish is first, and our money will be yen.
I'm also surprised no one has brought up, SS contributions from your paychecks will be going up as well!!your other govt run, govt funded program thats broke.
"No martin, the only people on these threads crying racist is the democrat posters. " Apparently , really weak accusation.
"cheaters always think somebody is cheating them liers always think everybody is lying, racists think everybody else is racist." And closet socialist, who loooooove socialist programs that benefit them always calls people socialist when they think their gravy train may be losing speed.
And youre right the whole "racist" accusations are silly. Make a point dont reach into the big bag of "isms" and start slinging to compensate for a lack of being able to build an argument.
"to quote the big B-Ho, sit down, shut up and deal with it." Who would the Big-Ho be?
"chinese will be the second language,only cause spanish is first, and our money will be yen." that makes no sense, the chinese currency is the Renminbi, (artificially pegged, something neither party has really done anything about) the yen is in almost as bad shape as the dollar.
"SS contributions from your paychecks will be going up as well!!your other govt run, govt funded program thats broke." you got that right except on this one they cant blame horrible cost estimates. This was just good old fashion taking it to spend else where.
chinese will be the second language,only cause spanish is first, and our money will be yen." that makes no sense, the chinese currency is the Renminbi, (artificially pegged, something neither party has really done anything about) the yen is in almost as bad shape as the dollar.
Its called sarcasm martin!!!!
And closet socialist, who loooooove socialist programs that benefit them always calls people socialist when they think their gravy train may be losing speed.Now you are lying.that comes natural to you doesn't it?
HARRY LETS GO FULL ON SINGLE PAYER - how can you can you call Medicare and Social Security a Ponzi scheme when its obvious that the whole economy is one !!!!!!
Just wait until Obama starts pushing a VAT tax to help pay for his Health Case fiasco. Maybe then you dems who still support Reid and Obama will start to wake up to what they have done to this country.
Did any of you Reid and Obama supporters write the latest articles about the lack of docs coming up; did you read the latest article about another Medicare bill to further cut Medicare that is going through congress? They couldn't include it in the original HC bill because they the number wouldn't have added up like they wanted.
All of you who think Reid and Obama are so great are the ones who think you are going to put a quarter in a slot machine and win a million dollars some day. Wake Up!
Lipton--- No it called you not knowing the difference between Japanese currency and Chinese currency and trying to play it off. The big word is the chinese currency.
"And closet socialist, who loooooove socialist programs that benefit them always calls people socialist when they think their gravy train may be losing speed.Now you are lying.that comes natural to you doesn't it?"
Nope I havent lied once. But thats ok, you probably are so lost in your confusing , twisted logic or lack therefor of, that you are not able properly process words any more. That would explain you "anti/pro socialist" stance or your making up stories about people wanting to eliminate medicare that keeps you from following a simple point (medicare = socialized medicine) and converting that to taking it away because they were made dependent on it ( not the prescription drug benefit that didnt exist till 2006. You love socialized medicine no wait you dont, nope you do again.
Coffee stains one's teeth and is hard on the bladder. I Love Coffee...
show me my post where I said I loooooove socialized medicine. I do believe you are a whack job. have a good day.
You do love socialized medicine, as evident in how emotional you get about defending medicare fro many cuts or cost reductions and how your grandmother having to buy her own prescriptions was a big point to you (even though she didnt pay for the benefit) . A social solution to her personal problem.
I believe you are a confused, kool aid drinking, political party fan who is not intellectually honest enough to admit you believe in some socialized medicine. You just hear people cry "socialized medicine" and jump on board rather than attacking merits or lack of merits in this "bill". Have a nice day.
A radio commentator who was in attendance at this
Tea Party just announced that there were over 30,000 people at the rally. Why isn't this rag reporting that?
I dont know Hannity said 7000.
show me my post where I said I loooooove socialized medicine.
You do love socialized medicine, as evident in how emotional you get about defending medicare fro many cuts or cost reductions.
you can't because it doesn't exist. you made it up and I do believe I said i defend the people who become dependent on that program, not the program, big differnce. can't defend your arguement of hypocracy so you have to make it up as you go and attack a persons credibility with degrading assumptions to make you look like you know what you're talking about, took me a minute, sucked me in, but I get it now.
30,000...
HA ha ha ha ha!!!!
NO WAIT... MUST HAVE BEEN FIFTY THOUSAND!!!!
HA ha ha ha ha!!!!
HO ho ho ho ho!!!!
Stop!!! Please??? STOP!!!
I'm sure it was only the "dozens" that the feces for brains at CNN reported .....
Yes birdie there were confederate flags flying in Searchlight. And no, there was nobody there with the balls to take them down !!
Democrats love Medicare so much that they are going to cut $500 billion from it.
The majority of seniors might not return that love this Nov.
Sgt Rock- Its nice to see you are so concerned with funding for socialized medicine programs. Maybe they wont but their "socialized medicine" in its current form at its current growth rate will bankrupt this country, so maybe they wont.
Thanks for pointing out that Medicare is bankrupting this country.
The solution should not be that we a ton of new people to another health care entitlement program.
the new arguement the democrats think they have won is repubs "enjoy" and "love" medicare" but rally against this new bill.:)
they accuse the ralliers of racism, violence and hate. If you go to any liberal web page, any liberal media station, any comment thread, you can see the hypocracy of that statement.
so long as the tea party continues, and the liberal party complains and criticizes, right down to costumes of a drum band, tea parties are doing just fine!.
What the tea party needs is access to a dictionary.
Lipton--
"and where in our constitution does it say that socialized healthcare is a right of passage? "
Yea LIPTON, where does it say that??? You bring up a great point. (by the way right of passage is defined as a right reach at a certain age ie; like medicare at 65)
"I beg to differ with you RSN, it will be subsidized, monitored and controlled by the govt.Private insurance will be run out of business."
No it wont, thats why the value of PRIVATE insurers and medical groups has gone up. If your going to be against something at least have your reasons make sense.
"what competition will there be with govt subsidized healthcare? none. they would have to raise their fees to the point on one can afford private healthcare, and all of america will be forced into govt subsidized care, not just when they retire with medicare, but for their whole lives."Wrong again, many European countries have ahd gov subsidies and private insurance for decades, in fact many only subsidize private insurance because they run it better than a gov.
"further reduce your free agency to choose? " who says, again why have private insurers value gone up? Because they are getting free customers, think about it.
LIPTON-
"you are correct in that, hospitals doctors nurses all in the medical field will be paid for, monitored and run by the govt." They already are for over 35% of the US population and over 50%by 2012 so whats the solutions? And you never answered why thats ok for seniors but not you?
"it can NEVER, EVER be amended," Where does it say this on what page can I find this? If its there your right that is just stupid.
"The social security package, when created was set up in much the same fashion as your B-Ho's healthcare package. You pay into it for several years to build a trust fund. The problem with SS is, the dems forgot to calc the number of baby boomers all retiring, and of course govt can't stand any funds just laying around so they constantly pilphered that trust fund,until its broke, adding in the lying, cheating and abuse of the funds, but, we don't expect any of that type of thing to happen with this govt run program like it did with SS and Medicare,"
How can one person be so wrong. SS and Medicare are two TOTALLY different program, SS is broke because they kept taking funds for other purposes. Under Reagan the large number of future baby boomer was taken into account the contribution rate was raised. The money was taken for general fund uses. Medicare is broke and going broker because no one paid enough for it and cost were way under estimated and benefits and freebies were continually added to buy votes is: part d by Bush
by the way here is your quote regarding your grandmothers medication.
"My grandmother, is losing medicare benifits and with the "D" program she has been able to recieve her meds for less than $100 a month(competition). with that gone, she has to purchase additional coverage to afford her meds, which all comes out of her very meager fixed income.paalease"
Competition???No its called government paying it down.
Operative phrase is "she has to purchase additional coverage" whats wrong with that, you like non government solutions, so there you solved her problem.
Besides she did not pay for part "d" we do, it was enacted in 2006. So hence you like "socialized medicine" when it benefits your family. Part D was a Bush trillion dollar vote buying program. Dont give me the force to be dependent crap. It was enact in 2006 and you your self said there "purchase additional coverage" so it was not forced it was a choice and who wouldnt take it. Its "free"
Aren't they cute???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6xkUcvh...
Gmag, pictures speak a thousand words. LOL!
Brits drink tea, real Americans drink coffee.
yeahmaybe...
You betcha!
Strong, black coffee. mmm mmm. Love it!
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/...
Can't you just hear Jackie Gleason proclaiming?....."Ohhhhh, how sweet it is!"
... SOOO "Yesterday's News" Caribou Barbie!!! LOL!!!
Wheres our buddy stevem? He must be out throwing rocks at homeless people or pimping bag ladies to make sure their employed.
Bill O Reilly went on the air saying a "far leftist" was ejected from Palin's Mesa rally for McCain. Phoenix TV stations interviewed the guy and he said he was a libertarian and thought that McCain was a "Neocon."
Shows what king of information goes out on fox.
I hope the investigation of Hannity's Freedom Concerts and Ensign's C Street cheap rent deal go forth. I think the reason Palin quit was because the Alaska scandals and financial mismanagement is coming out now.
Sarah is jealous of Mr. Reid as she has no where to go back to that wants her. So she has zero accountability for what she says....Nice job Sarah resign so people won't hold you accountable...Hmmmmmmmmmm.....
Now then let's set straight the lies about the "Canadian Medicare System" ....it overwhelmingly works...Over 90% of all Canadians polled in 2009 gave their approval to the system...Does it need improvements here or there? ...Yes but overwhelmingly it has saved Canadians huge amounts of money....while offering top of the line Medical Care for "all" the people....Canadians flat out reject "privitization" of the health care system to the point that the mere mention of such costs Governments elections....
I'll take an honest Palin any day over lying Pelosi - Palin tells it like it is. Remember that statement from Pelosi about the Obama care bill a couple of weeks ago, "We would know what's in it once the bill passed?"
Sarah, you go girl, we need you!
Still amazes me - How ANY MEDIA reporter or WOMAN that may not like her politics yet demands supporting woman's rights, will accept demeaning Gov. Palin. This just shows me what Anti-American NON-Woman's rights loser those media reports and 'fair' rights groups are.
For the folks that just hate Gov. Palin, because they believe a Canadian Anti-American skit-ster (Tina Fay) who couldn't make enough money in Canada to buy a cup of coffee, but will take U.S.A. MONEY while espousing her hate - Well that just shows me how dimwitted, and close minded you are..
GOD LOVE AMERICA and honest Americans, because folks like you aren't aware enough too...
martin, you talk a good game, but if anyone researched even a portion of the crap your writing they would see you are totaly up-in-the -night.
the "D" program has been in effect since 2004, not 2006.
you don't pay for the "D" program, it is a suppliment to the regular medicare.
For beneficiaries, the plan covers 75% of prescription costs above $250 per year. The recipient has to pay an initial deductible of $250, then one quarter of the costs from $250 to $2250. From $2250 to $5100 per year, the beneficiary pays for all of those costs out of pocket, and any costs above $5100 are completely covered by Part D insurance. This ensures beneficiaries who use expensive treatments will be covered for any extreme costs.
The insurance works to reduce the amount of out of pocket costs in concert with the other medical care provided by Medicare's other parts. The Part D plans are not provided directly by the government; as a result, the types of drugs covered can vary. Consequently, someone looking into Part D plans should shop around and find the plan that covers the drugs in their regimen.
Medicare Part D is the prescription drug program available to Medicare recipients that gives them several options to help pay for their medications. Each company that's part of it is privately-run and will vary from the next, but each meets the standards required by the government. It's an optional benefit and it will cost you a monthly fee if you take part.
Since each company's plan is different, there's a wide variety of drugs covered in Part D health insurance that can be good (or bad) depending what you require, so it's important to research before you pick one. Get a clear understanding
I find it fascinating that bgart seems to hate when someone else takes a quote out of context, but is more than willing to do it himself/herself.
"It always been about the money. They have it, they want to keep it"
The rest of what I said was...
"It's never been about Socialism or Government interference or "Death Panels". It always been about the money. They have it, they want to keep it all and they don't care what happens to anyone else... that is until something happens and they loose money. Then they come whining with their hands out wanting their "Fair Share" like all the "dead beats" got."
Yes, I work and I work hard, but I pay my taxes. I don't like paying taxes and anyone that says "Liberals Love High Taxes" is a moron. But I pay my fair share and I support my country when I do. I would rather see my tax dollars put to good use rather than being wasted.
People may have differing opinions over what waste is, but I don't think helping sick children, the elderly, and the poor is a waste.
and what makes you think there will be no waste or abuse or corruption in this plan? Do you really,honestly, believe that your taxes are being well spent? If liberals don't like taxes, why are they the ones that keep wanting to raise taxes? Are you really trying to imply republicans have their hands out wanting their "fair share"? you are kidding right? They are the ones screaming small govt, let me choose where my money goes, who I want to contribute to, they are not the ones telling us, give me more of your paycheck and spread the wealth.I think your backwards.