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How we’ll live post-sprawl
End of construction boom will reshape valley in ways good and bad
Monday, March 2, 2009 | 2 a.m.
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No more brokers driving Mercedes, no more crane skyline, no more developments popping up around the desert like toast from a toaster.
Construction and real estate, Southern Nevada’s second most important industry, have crashed, and there likely will be little building here for several years.
Now economists and urban planning experts are beginning to consider how the crash will reshape in innumerable ways Southern Nevada’s physical landscape and the way we live — some frightening, but also some hopeful.
Start with the bad: All those half-empty neighborhoods on the edge of town become exurban ghettoes. These neighborhoods share the worst aspects of suburban life, specifically long commutes, big gasoline bills and the absence of urban amenities, while not offering some of the traditional benefits of suburbs such as big yards — the houses in many of the neighborhoods are packed closer together.
“This is the stuff that’s going to be in real trouble down the road,” said Alan Mallach, a nonresident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and an urban planning expert.
Although these houses and town homes have become affordable compared with their astronomic highs of a few years ago, the type of people who might buy them fear unemployment and might not be able to get a mortgage.
These structures, which were built cheaply and quickly, will become inexpensive rental housing, a process that seems to have already begun.
Next up, landlords begin accepting low-income Section 8 vouchers, Mallach said.
He said he sees merit in the prediction of Christopher Leinberger, an urban planning professor at the University of Michigan and a developer who wrote a piece for The Atlantic last year called “The Next Slum.”
Leinberger describes the emergence of America’s newest ghettoes on the outer rings of the suburbs, where crime is suddenly spiking.
“I think the prospects are grim,” Mallach said.
Clark County Commissioner Chris Giunchigliani, who has long been passionate about the valley’s unmanaged growth, said she hadn’t considered this possibility, but upon reflection, found it alarming.
Giunchigliani said it is time for an inventory.
Mallach endorsed that idea: “They need to inventory these developments, see how they relate to each other and somehow integrate them into larger services and build a viable land-use pattern.”
One way to integrate these residents and drive up value would be to provide quality mass transit, though the prospects aren’t good for new spending with the state and local governments facing severe fiscal problems.
It’s not all hopeless, however.
There’s the aforementioned affordability, which was once the city’s great draw, second only to the plentiful jobs.
First-time homebuyers in particular are well-positioned in the current market, as median home prices have declined 48 percent and continue to fall. The reality, however, is that with 10 percent of Las Vegas area homes in foreclosure, we are quickly becoming a city of renters.
But that’s not such a bad thing, according to the social theorist Richard Florida, who notes in a recent Atlantic piece that in the 1950s and 1960s Americans were twice as likely to move as they were last year. The obsession with homeownership, spurred on by government policy, has made us too rooted, Florida argues.
Nimble renters — that’s us, Las Vegas — can avoid long periods of unemployment because they can pick up and move.
There is a downside, of course: Renters tend to be less invested in their neighborhoods.
Giunchigliani said governments at all levels will have to focus on building community in these neighborhoods now filled with renters.
This relates to another opportunity presented by this downturn: Rethinking our physical layout and how it can draw us together as a community.
Urban planners say suburbanism is dying, evidenced by the shift during the past 15 years or so of real estate value from suburbs to urban cores. Younger people especially have been drawn to urbanism, be it in big cities or mixed-use villages.
Jonathan David Miller, who writes Emerging Trends in Real Estate for PricewaterhouseCoopers, argues that suburbanization is on the decline not just because younger Americans want a different lifestyle, but also because once energy costs rise again, as economists predict, suburban development will reveal itself to be inefficient.
As urban areas continue to grow, exurban developments offer untenable commutes and gasoline bills. These new developments soon won’t be new and will have to undergo expensive maintenance of sewers, roads and other utilities and infrastructure.
In other words, Las Vegas got lucky. The crash has ended the sprawl, and just in time.
Rory Reid, chairman of the Clark County Commission, said policymakers realized the sprawl pattern was foolhardy some time ago and had begun to encourage mixed-use, urban development, only to see the recession kill a number of promising projects.
“I think if there’s a silver lining in the economic travail it’s that we can be thoughtful about how to plan for the future,” Reid said.
In fact, planning for a future that is more dense, more vertical, more urban and connected by mass transit could solve several problems at once.
Here’s how:
Less car traffic would mean better air quality, while denser development leaves a smaller carbon footprint than suburbanization.
But also, Peter Calthorpe, principal of Calthorpe Associates in California, notes that just 25 percent of households are of the two parents and children model that fits best with suburbia.
“The one-size-fits-all American dream isn’t a dream for most Americans anymore,” he said.
Mallach, of the Brookings Institution, agreed, saying Las Vegas could draw skilled professionals it needs with a more varied development pattern that includes urbanism.
“If you want to attract really sharp engineers and scientists and creative people, having a city will make it much easier to do that,” he said.
Miller points to renewable energy research and development as an area where Nevada should thrive, but will need to attract those young achievers to do so.
Why should this matter to Las Vegas?
Well, as is now abundantly clear, our one-dimensional economy leaves us vulnerable to tourism recessions.
The city had come to rely on construction and development as its second most important industry.
But that’s finished, at least for some time.
“We need to replace that economy,” said Keith Schwer, a UNLV economist who has examined the real estate market here in detail.
The apartment vacancy rate is 16 percent, while for homes it is 4.7 percent, according to a recent Forbes report. Schwer thinks the Forbes’ apartment data is overstated, but still, with population flat or declining, it’s clear the construction industry will lie dormant for years.
But there’s a hopeful upside, as noted by Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford, the Las Vegas Democrat: Without the constant banging of hammer on nail, Southern Nevada can use the silence to think about what it wants to be. “Because of the downturn, the foreclosures, yes it’s a crisis, but it’s created an opportunity for us to rethink what our city is and what it can be for everyone.”
Sun reporter Joe Schoenmann contributed to this story.
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I disagree. with little building going on and as the economy recovers there will probably be a housing shortage in less than 3 years. Then the developers will be going 110 MPH to catch up again. This is the nature of Las Vegas
I disagree with capt.America. In the past, Vegas fit your theory, but at some point adding another 3,000 rooms does not fit the same model for the number of jobs created per room. Additionally, MGM reps have stated that a lot of City Center employees are coming from other MGM properties, so the hiring for backfill jobs might occur at MGM, Monte Carlo, etc.
The resulting new jobs are not going to pay enough to afford home-ownership.
Capt. you and Mr. Aguero are wrong, but time will tell.
There is a massive surplus in the number of residential dwellings in Las Vegas. This city is not going to need any new homes or apartments for a very long time. Because of this, home prices also cannot go up to any significant extent. Supply will overwhelm demand for housing for years here, which means pricing cannot increase much. Don't believe the delusional realtors that think the next boom is around the corner. Wishful thinking alone does not create demand.
Not only do we have enough homes today, but as the number of jobs in this city continues to decline, so will the population. This is a very transient city. Many people don't have "roots" in the valley, so when times are bad, its easy to up and go.
In order to stabilize, Las Vegas desperately needs an influx of sustainable businesses that are not dependent on tourism.
It is going to be hard to stop out of control development as long as the public payroll patriots, such as the loafers in the city of Henderson, who continue to allow pie in the sky developments to proceed. Have you seen Horizon Ridge lately? Torn apart, dumps filled with solid waste, Vantage Lofts abandoned. Looks like a bomb site. What about Lake Las Vegas? Going down faster than your loose cousin. Henderson spent 33 Bil of your money developing it-now people are leaving in droves-who will remain to pay the bonds? Until we stop the "redevelopment" slugs, we will remain in deep trouble. Have you seen the work going on in "Gibson Estates", the toxic wasteland off Boulder Hwy being "redeveloped" on top of perchlorate and hexavalent chromium waste? Hang your head low, expediter Jim Gibson, you are condemning our children to an early death. Shame....
My guess is the next boom is many many years away....perhaps even a decade.
The DOW is heading toward 6,000 and might even break 5,000 by fall 2010.
That is saying that earnings will be lower for the next couple of years.
This cycle of layoffs probably will not be finished until fall 2010.
2011 should bring a tiny amount of growth. That probably will continue to 2012 and 2013.
After that the effect of trillions upon trillions upon trillons of Federal bonds flooding the market will produce higher interest rates and inflation.
After 2013, we will have many years of stagflation.....high inflation with very little growth.
Welcome back Carter.
Right now there is a large surplus of homes, which is mostly due to the slowdown and then decline in new habitants of Las Vegas. Even before the slowdown the real surplus was over a year worth of homes, but it was masked by investors buying and vacation renting or flipping the house to other investors like a commodity future.
When the slowdown happened the mask came off, then they didn't stop construction right away then we had an exodus of migrant US workers and immigrants from other countries which caused the mess we are in now.
We are sitting on at least 5 years of home inventory. If we started today and had the same migration we did in the 90's; which is reasonable to assume once the "great horde of cash of 2008 and 2009" (commonly referred to as the recession) is over we would still be looking at 5 years before the excess inventory was filled.
Once the Great Cash Horde of 2008 and 2009 is over, you will see an uptick in construction, merely for the fact that people like NEW homes, and once they start feeling comfortable again that their future is sound there will be new developments again. This time though we shouldn't see many 2000sq/ft homes on under 3000sq/ft lots. The main homestyle built in the 90's was a 1,800-2,000-ish sq/ft home on a 5,000-12,000 lot. That's what I am predicting the next 5 years of development to be.
It's most likely 10 years at best before we could see any chance of a return of 2004-2007 where they built "detached condos" and called them homes and priced them at $300K. Most likely though we are never going to return to that period, most people just don't like having a zero lot.
I always thought the first sign of the Las Vegas Valley being over built was when the "Condos" along the "Strip" and downtown didn't sell. But the local governments kept approving them anyway -- even after it became apparent that developers were just trying to "Flip" the newly approved projects.
Then, SFR's "Flippers" were getting 100% Loan-To_value mortgages, and trying to "Flip" the house before having to make a house payment.
Also, Urban "Mixed-Use" centers may work in heavily populated areas near financial centers, such as along the east coast cities of Boston New York, Miami, as well as California's Los Angeles, San Fransico and San Diego. They usually have an ocean view out their windows. But in the middle of the desert? I had a hard time believing these would be successful. Yes, Soho Lofts and Panarama sold quickly, but the rest?
It is unfortunate that the need for greed along with the de-regulating of Wall Street that led to 100% Loan to Value Mortgage Backed Securities, but this is the result of people being too greedy.
P.S.: As a Real Estate Broker, I didn't purchase/lease a Mercedes. I had put a lot of money I earned through Commercial Real Estate into Mutual Funds and they are 66% down. Yeah! Go Wall Street!
Nightmare has it right.I believe the Valley has seen the light with this downturn and shouldn't rely on gambling only in the future. It's called
"putting all our eggs in one basket".This downturn will be in the area for years to come.Things have no choice but to change especially in the way LV deals with housing and the like....this is a new time and a new era for Las Vegas...embrace it.
I think you guys are crazy if you think that non-gaming will have any significant portion of the economy in the valley.
There is very little industry quality land in the valley.
We are surrounded by federal lands. Your arugment might make sense in the northern part of the state.
There are tons of tons of tons of other cities that are fighting for new industry by offering large tax giveaways to get companies to move their.
Are you reccomending large tax giveaways to attract new industry? I think your Democratic friends want to radically increase taxes on businesses not reduce them.
The only industries that the Valley could attract are industries that nobody else wants like the nuclear industry. Everybody hates that. We are currently trying to kill a multi-billion industry that is offering 1,000's in good paying jobs.
I'm glad to see a Las Vegas newspaper actually put out an honest article.
Yes, Las Vegas is a very transient town, so the majority of people who live here at some point in their lives are not going to lay down "roots" of any kind. This would include retirees as well, who are simply coming here to live out their remaining days rather than actually contribute back anything to the community.
Along these same lines, you have to consider that many people who would have been able and willing to set down roots and help build up their communities have been priced out of Las Vegas because of the real estate bubble. I myself and my family are included in this group, and I have known many, many coworkers who are in the same situation. First we wanted to buy houses, but the prices were too high and none of us fell for the Adjustable Rate Mortgages that they tried to throw onto us. Now prices are coming down, sure. But the neighborhoods are falling apart. If it's not abandoned homes that can't sell because they've been stripped and/or vandalized, it's the massive amounts of Section-8 families moving in that are bringing things down with late-night disturbances and graffitti.
So we're doing what lots of other people we know are: Working jobs in Las Vegas to accumulate enough savings to buy a home elsewhere. Sure if I move out of state my income level *may* go down depending upon what career field I work in, but I'll have a home with a decent mortgage because of the down payment I've saved up. I don't know what anyone considers to be "the American Dream", but I like others need a house with a garage. I perform my own vehicle maintenance and repairs. It saves me thousands of dollars per year, per vehicle I own. And you can't even do an oil change in an apartment complex. More and more people will become this way too, as we all become a less disposable society and more self-reliant due to dwindling cash and credit.
I find it hard to believe that Clark County Commissioner Chris Giunchigliani, nor anyone else for that matter could ever have seen the possibility of exurban ghettoes. Aside from it being an obvious situation, it's already been a proven one that happened almost 15 years ago: Lancaster, CA. Huge real estate development in the 1980's, and a large migration out to the desert. RE Bubble collapsed, and lots of people moved back into the SF Valley. All that was left behind were poorer people who couldn't afford the fuel and proper cars to get back to those better jobs so they had to make do with the low-paying ones there that were mostly Service Industry. As a result property values dropped, and crime and gang activity flourished. So yes, this has happened before, but no one ever wanted to believe that it could happen in their own cities.
Mixed use development in a pipe-dream in Las Vegas. We don't have professionals such as scientists, or bankers, computer engineers, or any other industry here because there is nothing that attracts any of them. We're too far away from their resources, don't have that sea-side views as was mentioned before, all of these industries require massive amounts of refridgeration to run there Server Farms, and most importantly we don't have the resources to sustain them. There is not enough water to go around.
I know that like a junkie that's been cut off from his or her supply of drugs, Government agencies are going through those same withdrawals with the loss of tax revenue. But what about the most obvious solution that has helped to keep Las Vegas afloat so many years before this: Keep the city small, have a few small industries help to sustain our economy (rather than always trying to become a hub for said industries), and severely limit development and construction. Would the tax base be smaller, yes. But in turn it would be more stable, and we wouldn't have as many resources in the city to maintain.
If the city wants to avert a crisis, wait another year, and buy out all those massive neighborhoods like the FAA mandated had to happen with the ones around McCarran, and demolish them all. Eliminate the exurban ghettoes before they form.
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This is a good thing as the illegals will search for work somewhere else.
Where did they get the data that says the "carbon footprint" would be smaller in a denser populated area? Are you kidding me? I live in Jersey. Evidently these people haven't driven from the burbs into NYC on a summer day. yeah, that thing that looks like a big brown bowl over the city? That's the "little carbon footprint" that cities make. Yeah, it is about density, you can breathe in the burbs, everything is spread out. Urban dwellers deal with the trucks, buses and trains idylling away as they walk by, chocking, trapped by skyscrapers. I sell outdoor lighting and I know more than these guys do!
I am a Realtor though not in Las Vegas and my opinion is that it will take years for the housing market to recover there. You were one of the very hardest hit so therefore you will be among the last markets to recover.
I'm not a realtor and I go along with the experts in that recovery is at least 3-5 years from now. Las Vegas will never attract skilled professionals that the article speaks of. It's not that kind of draw. This burg attracts lower middle class service industry type of people and transient-construction types also. Sure, you get a few bosses in here now and then, but that's about it. The rest come here with fortunes or nest eggs made elsewhere. And, they don't work, or need to.
Looky, a profound observation - the population of the country continues to grow and people will go someplace. All the gloom and doom might be right - but it could be very very wrong as well. As my German forebears would say - if you are so smart how come you aren't rich? But then again maybe a bunch of you are! Ok, carry on and someday we will be able to look into the mirror and see this as way behind us!
tHE NEXT BIG "THING" FOR VEGAS will be getting back to the RAT PACK Days when people that went to the casino dressed up. Look for the Sex 2 go behind closed doors again. Vegas needs to tap the renewable energy market. Develope Lake Mead, Mt Charleston and the state parks and market those as well. But also put world class facilities at those out door sites. And the people in Las Vegas need to work a little harder at doing things other than sitting in a casino all the time.
Frankm507-
You are absolutely incorrect. Per-capita emissions go down as density increases. Of course the TOTAL emissions will be more from a cluster of 1 million people than a town of 5,000. Urban dwellers don't make 7-10 separate car trips per day to get a coffee, a gallon of milk, taxi the kids, etc. Everything is close by and many things can be reached on foot, by bike and by transit. And you know what? People are into these things. Unfortunately, for the last 50 years, most cities (like LV) have either promoted or allowed development that virtually prohibits this kind of lifestyle. The cat is out of the bag - "conventional" suburban development is not sustainable, and in a matter of less than two years has gone from bright to blight.
A lot of those people sitting at a casino all the time are retired folks who HAVE worked hard - all their lives - they're entitled to sit back and have fun in their golden years so leave them alone.
I would like to see a lot of the old houses and strip malls demolished to help the inventory problem. I'm sure the idea of forcing people out of their condemned house and into a new one in the suburbs won't fly, but the most exciting prospect to me is to "clean" the slummy areas near the strip and downtown. While that is being done, we can plan and engineer the future on a clean canvas. The strip can move eastward. Build the world's biggest shopping mall, etc. I like The District and Town Center projects, more of those would be nice. Town Center should have rentals above the stores and get rid of the roads where people need to walk, what's the point of that?
This is the first article that makes sense that I've seen. Everything else is housing "market" statistics. I think the big housing companies are over for a while, but other developers could make this the most liveable and fun city ever.
I think UNLV should be relocated to a small town atmosphere also, better for learning, and room to expand. I'd put a bumper boat park there, or a racquet club. Lots of fountains too, very relaxing.