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2 Palin crowds, 2 differing sign-of-the-times moments
Kevin Clifford / Special to the sun
When Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin visited Carson City in September, 5,000 screaming supporters came to get their first glimpse of her.
Saturday, Oct. 25, 2008 | 2 a.m.
Carson City — The mood at September’s rally for Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin was electric, near fervent.
Palin Rallies in Henderson
Sarah Palin visited Henderson Tuesday for some last minute campaigning.
Anger, Fear, and Racism Follow Palin Rally
A group of 10-20 Obama backers gathered in front of Henderson Pavilion's gates during Gov. Sarah Palin's speech. As McCain/Palin supporters exited the rally, many became enraged at the sight of the protest. Photo by Leila Navidi.
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The crowd of 5,000 in Carson City shouted out “Sarah!” They hung on her every word. They offered earsplitting applause, even to a speech nearly identical to the one she had just delivered at the Republican National Convention.
Palin’s rally in Reno this week, just over a month since her first Northern Nevada visit, was different.
The fire department estimated the crowd at 3,000, but it felt smaller in the cavernous Reno-Sparks Convention Center, which holds 10,000. The crowd still clearly loved her — as at Sen. Barack Obama’s rallies, much of the preaching is done to the converted — but it did not pop with the same energy that was so palpable in September.
It’s something that’s happening across the country.
“Whenever someone new hits the political scene, there’s an initial burst of interest and excitement,” said Michael McDonald, an associate professor who specializes in elections and voting at George Mason University.
McDonald argues that when a new person emerges on the national stage, voters project themselves onto him or her.
“We take all our hopes and aspirations and think the politician shares them,” McDonald said. “It’s inevitable we’ll be disappointed when we find out there’s only one person just like you. It’s you.
“As people get to know her, expectations and enthusiasm come down.”
Palin has fired up the conservative base, which had been cool to Sen. John McCain, McDonald said. She has also been a drag on the ticket, turning off moderates and independent voters.
Charlene Bybee, 54, a flight attendant from Sparks, went to the rallies in Carson City and Reno and recognized the shift in the mood.
“People knew in Carson City that was her first appearance by herself,” she said. McCain’s pick of Palin “reinstilled my faith in the campaign. It was new energy, a fresh face.”
But now is not a happy time to be a McCain supporter.
There are depressing poll numbers, stories of political backbiting from McCain advisers, uneven television interviews by Palin. And those began before the news was filled with reports of the Republican National Committee’s $150,000 investment in Palin’s and her family members’ wardrobes.
“Most of us are exhausted,” said Bybee, who volunteers with the McCain campaign. “We’re tired. She’s been beat down by the media. We’ve been beat down by the media. We’re tired of fighting the big money out of Hollywood.”
She said Obama “has no experience. We don’t know who he is. Most of us are nervous. We’re scared to death.”
She said the difference in mood between the two events also lends itself to the seriousness of the time.
Not that the “lipstick on a pig” comment by Obama, which Republicans claimed was an attack on Palin, was completely forgotten. But the economic crisis and plunging stock market have overshadowed other events.
“We can’t be cheerleaders now,” Bybee said. “We’re the team now on the field.”
Still, she was proudly wearing a shirt that read, “I am Sarah Palin.”
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how can she be tired - she's barely been available for questioning and lets face it, neither couric nor gibson were particularly hard on her and the interviews she's given since then all feel very orchestrated. And saying she's been beat down by the press - she's been in the game how long? 6-7 weeks? I can understand the white haired old guy being worn out, he's been on the campaign trail since before the first of the year and he's old enough to be retired and driving a golf cart and taking naps - but a 44yo mother? if this wears her out, how is she supposed to handle the real duties of being VP, her disabled son and being a new grandmother soon? somebody better introduce her to starbucks espresso and fast because at this rate she won't even make it to the big day.
Totally agree washingtonmom. But thats what you get when the VP candidate is chosen purely to incite an emotional response in voters, rather than someone who is chosen based on their merits. Personally, I'm more frightened by that mob in the video. I'm sure those are only the most out there of the crowd, but they are just one step away from lynching Arab-Americans.
I'm not a Palin booster, and for those of you who are, well that's great. I don't pick my candidates based on their charm, wit or speaking abilities. I tend to dig deep to see what is behind all those attributes that make me like the candidate and see if they 'walk the talk', unfortunately Palin falls very short in any creditability behind the statements that many of us may have liked about her. If she's your candidate then vote for her, but I ask that you take a few minutes to review a few videos that may either enforce your choice or maybe change it. Four short videos that can be located at this link: http://www.youtube.com/wasillaproject
The choice of Palin as a VP was simply a politically dumb decision by McCain. McCain has always said that he cares about America-but choosing palin as a veep shows that he cares more about trying to get votes-rather than the welfare of the country. If your 72 years old & running for president-you gotta make sure that your possible successor is supremely qualified to take over if necessary. I think that majority of people think that McCain made a poor choice.
"We don't know who he is."
I am so SICK Of that statement. HOW is it that anyone can compare how much is "known" about Palin vs. Obama? Palin hasn't been thoroughly vetted by her own campaign, much less by the media, which has looked into every nook and cranny of Obama (both the pro-Obama media AND the con-Obama media--which Palin would experience, too, if she didn't use it as an EXCUSE to avoid scrutiny).
That's just it: the public doesn't really know Palin at all because she has indeed avoided thorough scrutiny. We don't know how she would answer questions from the public or the media "on the fly," so we have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER how her mind works. None! And all those investigations--what do we know of her about those issues?
No, the public "knows" Obama a heck of a lot better than it "knows" Palin. It's jsut that some people choose to studiously IGNORE (ando/or misinterpret) what the know.
Why is she still getting any air time?
Philip, the only people who "...don't know who he is." at this point are people who do not want to know or who do know but choose to lie about him instead.
The left attacks right-wingers politics. i.e. "John McCain is just like Bush." The right attacks the left-wingers character and politics. "Obama is a socialist, terrorist, America hater who will allow the country to be attacked and destroyed".
You can see by the comparison that the right willfully plays to the lowest in humanity. It has become their primary tool as of late. Soon it will be "Don't vote for Dina Titus, she eats babies!!!"
"Most of us are exhausted," said Bybee, who volunteers with the McCain campaign. "We're tired. She's been beat down by the media. We've been beat down by the media. We're tired of fighting the big money out of Hollywood."
God these people are whiny! The only beating down has been done by Palin to herself, by accepting a position that she is grossly unqualified for and not knowing such basic Political Science 101 facts like what a VP's duties are and any random Supreme Court decision besides Roe V Wade. Even my uber-Republican aunt said "thanks but no thanks" to her friend's invitation to go see her in Reno.
And like johnevegas said, the people who "don't know Obama" don't care to learn about him except for the ridiculous false e-mails and right-wing nutjob rumours, for fear that they may actually like what they will learn and will realize that they were wrong about him and that he is our best choice for POTUS.
We are witnessing the Republican party committing suicide and it ain't pretty.
What 43 started, McWhacko and this Whatever-it-is is finishing the job.
How ugly can humanity get?
For those of you who are weary of "I don't know who he (Obama)is," I share your weariness.
As Jon Stewart said (in response to Palin's assertion that Obama was a stranger/strange to Americans - who is he?), "we just met you yesterday!!!
In other words, Palin dropped onto the national scene a month and 1/2 ago. Obama has been in the public eye for (at least)2-3 years, under intense (sometimes awful) scrutiny during a grueling, long primary.
I wonder if people who do not "know him" have bothered to go to his website?? Read either of his two books?? Listened carefully to the countless debates/speeches/interviews etc., etc? I know the McCain campaign would like media to repeat its Democratic primary coverage just for the people (Republicans)who have just dialed in this fall, but that's not possible.
Finally, what do people "know" about Palin??? After 6 weeks??
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
P.S.: maybe if those who don't "know Obama" would stop reading the emails about his birth certificate, maybe they could get some good information.
Just a suggestion...
A striking development in recent weeks has been the endorsement of the Obama/Biden ticket by prominent Republicans. The most prominent was Colin Powell (his powerful statement should be visited by Googling "Colin Powell Meet The Press"), but others of prominence have also joined. These including a number of former Republican Governors, as well as Charles Fried, who served as Solicitor General in the Reagan administration.
Many of these Republican supporters of Obama are more closely aligned ideologically with Republican than Democratic policies, but two critical concerns drove their decision. First, they found in Obama someone more knowledgeable, thoughtful, and level-headed, particularly regarding the nation's economic crisis. Second, they have become appalled at the thought that Sarah Palin might become president of the U.S. in a world full of dangerous complexities, as the evidence for her almost total incompetence has grown. Earlier, this hypothetical possibility lay in the background, but as the election approaches, these and many other Republicans have suddenly imagined a Palin presidency as something that might actually occur, and the thought has terrified them.
It has also compelled them to question previous hopes that Senator McCain would be capable of making judgments that were wise and in the nation's best interest.
Fred Moolten
Palin has more trouble for herself with the bidding process for the natural gas pipeline.
Everyone on the right defends the 150K clothing expenditures,not to mention the 220K beautician bill, but McCain said in April93 and June 94 he was against spending campaign funds for clothing, this week his answer was "she needed them ".
I know who has been tested and I know who failed every test.Enough already.
Dear Echo Chamberites: "Dewey Defeats Truman!"
Sarah Palin's public accomplishments are so much greater, by any criteria, than Obama's.
And the incessant attempts by the media to smear her just magnify their own, pathetic, bitter lives.
Sarah Palin is a treasure - a woman who has given herself to public service and shown her ability to rise to the top through accomplishment and working FOR the people, not FOR her career.
Obama is a me-first, narcissistic, empty suit with no accomplishments. Always the easy way. Spent his adulthood wallowing in the victimhood of radical left Chicago politics, NEVER to challenge the narrative that the U.S. is a land of aggrieved souls.
Meanwhile, Sarah Palin actually accomplishes things: City council, City mayor, energy regulatory commissioner, and Governor. Balancing budgets, meeting constituents' needs, cleaning up corruption, and securing a pipeline deal.
All as Obama writes another book about.....himself. This generation deserves an Obama Presidency, sure to be one of self-obsessive, yet passive, I-am-the-One speeches, with no concept of U.S. history, or promise. Add to that a hefty dose of European Socialism and overseas apologies to European elites.
Real American woman, vs. faux-American narcissist. I know who I choose.
I feel so sad for all you Palin wannabes. The lady, and she is a lady, makes you all look like last weeks breakfast. Sit down, look in a mirror and ask yourselves the question(s): "Why am I so pathetic and offer so little to society"?
P.S. All you complaining about Sarah having the RNC buy her clothes(which, by the way, are going to be auctioned on ebay)please remember that dork Al Gore gave Naomi Wolfe $15,000 per month for 8 months to make him into an alpha male. What a spending coup that was.
And think about this for a moment: Why has Obama not been given a fraction of the scrutiny that Sarah Palin, the VP candidate, has?
Democrat or Republican, ALL should be gravely concerned at the willingness of an "independent" press to do the Messiah's bidding, and brazenly propagandize to get him elected.
We've never seen this before in our democracy. It is a frightening thing for those who have any understanding of history.
Obama is a radical, leftist idealogue who, through his temperment, has deflected ANY criticism. He openly longs for the "traditional" structures of 3rd world communities in Africa and Indonesia. Do his supporters have any idea what types of freedom they will be giving up by raising him to power?
This is beyond the Democrat/Republican split...we're talking about European Socialism, redistribution of wealth, and the abridgement of individual freedom. Sing your Obama songs, faint at your Obama rallies, display your Obama logos and presidential seals (Does this not ring any alarm bells??), and watch the power of the State take over your lives.
Sorry, I can only laugh when Sarah Palin's supporters screech about narcissism.
Narcissism is dropping more at Neiman Marcus in a single shopping trip than Joe the Plumber makes in a year.
Narcissism is a RNC speech outfit worth more than a small car.
Narcissism is being called "authentic" when your makeup artist is being paid more than your foreign policy advisor.
You cite her "accomplishments?" How about pushing Wasilla into crippling debt? The day Sarah Palin was inaugurated as mayor of Wasilla, the city had a balanced budget and no debt. When she left office, she had raised taxes and built a city-funded money-pit that, to this day, hasn't made a dime. Wasilla residents got stuck with a publicly subsidized ice skating rink. Thanks Sarah Palin!
What about the utter hypocrisy of a woman who stands on stage branding Obama a socialist when she not only raised taxes on oil companies in Alaska as governor, but then took that money and spread it around to every man, woman and child in Alaska.
Sarah Palin was the CEO of the largest welfare state in the union.
When asked relatively simple questions, she sputters and stutters around, desperately trying to find away to avoid the question at hand, while flirting with the camera with her faux-cutesy winks.
Palin's supporters are Bush's supporters. Cut from the same cloth, proud as ever of their "accomplishments." Willing to excuse ignorance or stupidity as "folksy charm?"
National polls reveal the truth, Palin's more of a drag on McCain's campaign than President Bush. That's stunning, but also revelatory of the intelligence of the American people.
We know weak pandering when we see it.
...lots of smoke, but still all we hear is criticism of Palin's accomplishments, when Obama has none.
Let me repeat: Obama has none.
Obama has none. Obama has none. People like Sarah Palin make our democracy work; people like Obama sit on the sidelines and claim credit.
Obama is a poseur. Never put his country first. Never took on his own party. Never accomplished anything of note for his country. But let's rush to make him president!
In the business world, we call people like Obama "pretenders", and promote the real doers = people like Palin.
...but in Obama's socialist Utopia, accomplishment, initiative, and results are frowned upon.
As long as you have the right victim mentality, sing the right "Ode to Obama", and demonize those who actually produce, you'll be alloted your ever-diminishing spoils.
The venom directed at Palin is part of the same envy and fear that Obama displayed in front of Joe the Plumber: Obama shook the hands of a man who actually USED his hands, did REAL things, and took no B.S. from Columbia-educated grievance merchant.
What you saw in Obama's eyes is fear of confronting REAL people who know what B.S. he's selling. And the Obamamaniacs swoon, but will, over time, realize that maybe a little due diligence was in order.
Proud of Palin's accomplishments?
Like when she violated Alaska's ethics law?
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/11/a...
"Sarah Palin, the Republican U.S. vice-presidential candidate, abused her powers as governor of Alaska by pressuring subordinates to try to get her former brother-in-law, a state trooper, fired, according to an investigation by the Alaska Legislature released Friday."
"The report concludes that the action was a violation of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. It was not immediately clear what actions the State Legislature would take in light of the findings. "
You seem awfully proud of Palin and her unethical behavior.
Or are you going to excuse her lapse in ethics?
"Why did the greatest furor against Palin originate with women, both liberals like a Gail Collins, Maureen Dowd, or Sally Quinn, or conservatives such as a Peggy Noonan or Kathleen Parker?
So far, none of them has adduced the necessary arguments that would justify their venom against Palin: they have not demonstrated that Vice Presidential nominee Palin has less government or executive experience than does Presidential nominee Obama; they have not shown that she has said anything in two months as disturbing as what Joe Biden says almost any day, and, in that vein, they have written few columns about Biden's lunatic assertions, such as FDR addressing the nation on television as President in 1929, or that our nation's enemies will test Barack Obama, and his reaction will so disappoint the American people that his polls will immediately sink; they have not shown that Palin's ideas about shrinking government and keeping taxes low are less sound than Obama's in time of economic downturn to raise aggregate taxes and expand government. So whence the vitriol, especially the frequent invective about Palin's family, education, accent, or mannerisms, or the rather sexist suggestions that her looks bewitched either McCain or others?" - Victor Davis Hanson
Two reasons:
1) Her career has shown Obama for the unaccomplished poseur that he is, even in the VP slot vs his Presidential slot on the ticket, and that is forbidden by the media.
2) She didn't have an abortion.
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Obama's qualifications for the Presidency?
Two memoirs about his own life.
Palin's qualifications for the Vice Presidency?
The most popular governor in America, who took on corruption in her own party, took on Big Oil to negotiate the best deal for the people of Alaska, and served as Mayor and Councilwoman of her city.
She also RESIGNED in protest as commissioner when she saw the corruption in the oil and gas deals over which she was supposed to administer.
Obama's displays of courage? He complimented Bill Ayers' book, and voted to deny medical coverage to babies born alive after a botched abortion.
God Damn America! says his spiritual mentor. What does Obama think?
Are we willing to elect to the Presidency a man who himself could not get a Federal security clearance because of his past associations with anti-Americans?
A man who has vowed to gut missile defense, cut back dramatically on defense spending, and meet unconditionally with our enemies?
A man who sees Israel as the root of all turmoil in the Middle East, and colonial and racist America as the source of the world's ills.
But he's the One. The One who may weaken this great nation irreparably, and plunge the world into darkness.
"Are we willing to elect to the Presidency a man who himself could not get a Federal security clearance because of his past associations with anti-Americans?"
He has a federal security clearance, he's a Senator. That's a lie and easily debunked.
"A man who has vowed to gut missile defense, cut back dramatically on defense spending, and meet unconditionally with our enemies?"
More lies: Obama's plans call to add 65,000 troops to the Army and recruit 27,000 more Marines. Defense spending would increase under Obama's plan. He also said he would cut UNPROVEN missile defense. That's kinda common sense, there, DeVere. Why spend billions on a system that hasn't worked?
"A man who sees Israel as the root of all turmoil in the Middle East, and colonial and racist America as the source of the world's ills."
I'd love to see a quote or source on this. I mean, it's kinda beneath responding to. No facts, no quotes, no proof. Empty rhetoric.
"But he's the One. The One who may weaken this great nation irreparably, and plunge the world into darkness."
Wait, I thought he was "That one." Isn't that how John McCain referred to him on national television?
Uh, you're batting 0 for 3 there, DeVere.
Latest Palin blunder: it appears she steered contracts for her famous gas pipeline toward bidders with ties to her administration.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory......
"Gov. Sarah Palin's signature accomplishment -- a contract to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48 -- emerged from a flawed bidding process that narrowed the field to a company with ties to her administration, an Associated Press investigation shows."
"Despite Palin's boast of a smart and fair bidding process, the AP found that her team crafted terms that favored only a few independent pipeline companies and ultimately benefited the winner, TransCanada Corp."
"Despite promises and legal guidance not to talk directly with potential bidders, Palin had meetings or phone calls with nearly every major candidate, including TransCanada."
"The leader of Palin's pipeline team had been a partner at a lobbying firm where she worked on behalf of a TransCanada subsidiary. Also, that woman's former business partner at the lobbying firm was TransCanada's lead private lobbyist on the pipeline deal, interacting with legislators in the weeks before the vote to grant TransCanada the contract. Plus, a former TransCanada executive served as an outside consultant to Palin's pipeline team."
Looks like more croneyism and sweetheart deals for the pals of Sarah Palin.
Palin is just a smokescreen with lipstick. The plan is to scare people into voting for McCain by throwing around terms like terrorist and socialist, my friends. Yes, Obama's experience isn't what McCain's is...but McCain voted many times with the president who has managed to sink this country deep into debt while alienating the rest of the world. The only people who can be happy about the past eight years own oil stock or work for Halliburton.
"When she left office, she had raised taxes and built a city-funded money-pit that, to this day, hasn't made a dime. Wasilla residents got stuck with a publicly subsidized ice skating rink."
A few points:
1) The *citizens* of Wasilla voted on, and approved (through ballot measure) the sports complex. Its not like Palin just decided to force the project on the citizens of Wasilla. They wanted it and voted for it.
2) On that same ballot measure the voters of Wasilla approved funding the project through a bond measure (the debt you speak of) and agreed to a .5% increase in the city sales tax to pay off the debt over time. That sales tax went from 2% to a whopping 2.5%. Again, to say that it was Palin who saddled the citizens of Wasilla with the cost is intellectually dishonest to say the least.
3) Palin eliminated property taxes on homes while mayor of Wasilla.
4) The elimination of property taxes actually offset the .5% increase in the sales tax for most citizens so they ended up with a net reduction in their taxes. Not an increase.
5) When talking about Alaskan taxes, its important to recognize that the state has a unique tax system. Its basically a consumption-based "Fair Tax." There are no property taxes (Palin finally got rid of them statewide as governor) & there are no income taxes. The only taxes Alaskan residents pay are a state sales tax which when I was last there was I believe 7%, and depending on the city you live in, a very small city sales tax that usually runs between 1% and 3%. So a total of around 10% sales tax. Not bad when you think about it. For contrast, here in MI we have a 6% sales tax along with property and income taxes.
"...when she not only raised taxes on oil companies in Alaska as governor, but then took that money and spread it around to every man, woman and child in Alaska."
Alaska has had an oil revenue sharing program for decades. Long, long, long before Palin even dreamed of running for the PTA let alone governor. It is one of the benefits of being an oil producing state. The difference is, that unlike any of the other oil producing states (many of which believe it or not also have oil revenue sharing agreements with the oil companies) Alaska doesn't pump that money directly into government coffers for politicians to spend as they please. Instead Alaska cuts out the middle man and gives each citizen an equal share of the revenue for THEM to spend as they please. Makes perfect sense since it is the citizens who are the real owners of the natural resources of that state.
Did she raise the "taxes" (really the amount of the revenue sharing) on the oil companies? Yes. But when she took office the revenue sharing agreement hadn't been adjusted in well over a decade, and with the rising price of oil she felt it was time for a readjustment so that the residents of the state could benefit from the rising oil prices just as the oil companies were. She basically just renegotiated the contract. Makes perfect sense since as I said in the last paragraph, the residents of the state are the real owners of that oil in the first place.
And finally, yes, Obama is a socialist. There is no doubt about it. Throughout his life he has surrounded himself with communists (Frank Marshall Davis member of the Communist Party USA ), socialists (his birth father, adoptive father Lolo Soetoro, the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America, The New Party, ACORN, etc), Marxist terrorists like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn, his "personal friend and spiritual advisor", the radical racist Rev. Wright whose black liberation thrology church Obama attended for over 20 years, the list could go on and on...
But what really cinches the solialist deal is his own words and policies. He wants to "spread the wealth" and "grow the economy from the bottom up." That is another way of saying: redistribute the wealth from those who earn and have wealth, to those who don't. The very definition of socialism. And his middle class "tax cut"? Ask yourself this: is a "tax cut" really a tax cut when not a single tax rate is being lowered? No, he wants to roll back the Bush tax cuts, which means that all tax rates will return to their higher percentages as they existed before the Bush tax cut, not just the top rate. On top of that he then wants to raise capital gains taxes (have any stock, mutual funds, retirement accounts?), raise corporate taxes (which will just be passed along to consumers in the form of higher prices and fewer jobs), raise the income taxes on those making 250k+ per year (which includes millions of small businesses that file as sole proprietorships or chapter s corporations), raise payroll taxes and add a new payroll tax (that bill was authored by Obama and is currently pending in congress right now), and then what do those making less than 250k get? A $500 refundable tax credit. A check that even those 38% of people who have no federal income tax liability are entitled to receive.
And his "Universal health care"? That is the new term. It used to be referred to as "socialized medicine", but selling socialism to the American people usually provides to be too tough since we have fought against socialism and communism since this country was founded. Then you have Obama's "Global Poverty Act(S.2433)" which is also sitting in congress right now waiting to be approved which will commit hundreds of BILLIONS of our tax dollars to foreign countries with the intent to "lift them out of poverty". HUNDREDS of BILLIONS which sould stay in our (US taxpayers') own pockets for us to spend on things WE need like food, utilities, gas to get to and from work. Nope, screw the US citizens, lets send hundreds of billions of dollars MORE to other countries. Unbelievable. Don't believe me, just look it up for yourself.
Obama's ad in the primaries stated, with him looking directly into the camera:
"First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it. (gives up on Iraq despite the surge's obvious success, and the defeat of Al Qaeda in Iraq)...
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. (hear that Iran, North Korea, and Russia?)...
I will not weaponize space. (ceding the future to the Chinese..)
I will slow our development of future combat systems. (Good God.)"
THAT is your Messiah. We will all be vulnerable. Your kids. My kids.
We must stop this man. This is madness.
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Who is the real McCain?
His treatment of Veterans is unbelievable and inhuman. One soldier this month was on The Rachael Maddow Show explained how he treats soldiers, they gave him a "D" rating.
His very close friend is also a friend of Bill Ayers and it appears he is also a member of Palin's radical groups.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/feb08/mccain_tru...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761/
http://www.usvetdsp.com/oct08/mccain_kie...
http://www.usvetdsp.com/nov07/mccain_dec...
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan08/mccain_mil...
Who are these American haters Palin has close ties with? She said "keep up the good work". She uses her same phase when she is told to fire someone ("budget cut"). Here is some interesting information that may explain Michelle Bachmanns' question and promised political climb behind the scene.
All of the following information was found on salon.com.
Great reading!!!
This will answer the question regarding American haters and more:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/1...
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/200...
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/0...
McCain/Palin's new campaign slogan:
"Fashion First"
How does a man who has no record of public accomplishment at the executive or national level even be considered as President?
If Obama's resume was in a stack, he wouldn't even make it to the second interview.
The answer: Because he is African-American, and there is a clamor to elect the first black president.
But he hates America, sees Western values as the cause of conflict, and wants to socialize our economy.
But we cannot question the One. The cult of Obama, has overtaken the media and the Left.
It is madness and will lead to a weaker U.S.
But that is what his supporters want: their own suicide.
The cult of Obama has overtaken the media (Fox News) and the Right (Karl Rove).
Karl Rove's electoral map-watch:
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politi......
Electoral college (as of 10/22/2008)
306 Obama
171 McCain
61 Toss-up
Wait a minute...here is a newer Rove map (as of 10/25/2008 - courtesy of FOX News):
317 Obama
151 McCain
64 Toss-up
"Because he is African-American, and there is a clamor to elect the first black president."
We can't make him sheriff! Can't you see he's a Ni...?
"...he hates America"
Anti Em! Anti Em! There's a twister!
"The cult of Obama"
Hey! I like the sound of that. The cult of Obama? Ya, that's the name of my next band! But I might add The Blue Oyster Cult of Obama. Is that okay?
gotta love the double standards!
http://amerpundit.com/2008/10/22/obama-s...
These people belong to a cult of victimization. The women who whines about being "...tired of fighting the big money out of Hollywood..." WHAT??? Hey, lady, meet Joe The Obama Supporter: 3 $25 donations. But there are millions like me. Big money? Look at the list of $2,300 McCain supporters. As for the media picking on poor Sarah Palin--she brought it on herself! She wants all the benefits of earned media ("Thanks but no thanks on the Bridge to Nowhere") but you don't want to hold her accountable for her statements?
Give me a break.