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Justin M. Bowen
Nevada gubernatorial candidates Rory Reid (left) and Brian Sandoval meet after finishing their debate at the PBS building in Las Vegas Thursday, October 7, 2010.
Published Thursday, Oct. 7, 2010 | 6:15 p.m.
Updated Thursday, Oct. 7, 2010 | 10:11 p.m.
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- Governor’s race tightens as budget debate avoided (10-5-2010)
- Rory Reid’s attack ad twists truth, Brian Sandoval’s words (9-29-2010)
- Rory Reid goes after Brian Sandoval over ties to lobbyists (9-18-2010)
- Bill Clinton stumps for Rory Reid, weighs in on economy (9-15-2010)
- Cutting through rhetoric: Did Brian Sandoval or Rory Reid win on the accuracy front? (8-31-2010)
- Beyond the debate, both gubernatorial candidates would cut education (8-30-2010)
- Rory Reid, Brian Sandoval debate on education reforms (8-29-2010)
- Rory Reid’s budget plan for Nevada: All ax, no new tax (8-27-2010)
- Rory Reid’s budget plan: Cut and consolidate but don’t raise taxes (8-26-2010)
- What will voters hear when Rory Reid, Brian Sandoval debate? (8-25-2010)
- What schedules can say about the candidates for governor (8-15-2010)
- No more Mr. Meek: Reid forces Sandoval’s hand with challenge (8-12-2010)
- Rory Reid draws Brian Sandoval into short debate (8-11-2010)
- Sun puts Brian Sandoval, Rory Reid in the hot seat (8-1-2010)
- Candidates for governor answer questions carefully and with few specifics (8-1-2010)
- A comparison of the gubernatorial candidates’ education plans (7-7-2010)
- Brian Sandoval, Rory Reid spar over budget solutions (1-27-2010)
7:09 p.m.
The debate ended with observers concluding there was "no knock-out blow."
Eric Herzik, professor of political science at University of Nevada, Reno, said, "that's bad for Rory Reid. He needed one."
The candidates stuck close to the positions they've been reiterating during the campaign -- no new taxes, conservative education reforms, Reid emphasizing education, Sandoval criticizing Reid's budget plan.
6:52 p.m.
On health care, Sandoval reiterated his support for repealing the federal health care law and states' lawsuits -- including Nevada's -- opposing it.
Reid called the lawsuit "politically motivated."
6:44 p.m.
On Arizona's high-profile immigration law, Sandoval said he supports the law, but after talking to law enforcement officials in Nevada, he said they said the state doesn't need the law.Sandoval said he would consider a bill though if presented to him as governor.
Reid, who has come out against the law in the past, said Nevada needs "comprehensive immigration reform."
6:42 p.m.
On teaching, Fox said both Reid and Sandoval want to make it easier for teachers to be fired. Fox asked the candidates what they would say to a teacher who is considering moving here.
Reid said he has a plan to reform Nevada's schools, giving teachers, principals and parents more autonomy to change schools.
Sandoval said teachers would be rewarded if their students show improvement.
Sandoval said "Vouchers are for everybody, not just the elite." Reid said, "We'll never have a first-rate economy if we have second-rate schools."
Reid accused Sandoval of wanting to cut school funding by $500 million.
6:29 p.m.
Twenty-five minutes in, we have daylight in the race.
Fox went through a list of possible tax increases, asking the candidates if they would consider them. Sales tax on services? Mining? Cigarette and alcohol? Room tax? No, and no. Both said they wouldn't consider them in their four years in office.
When Fox asked about a lottery, Sandoval said no. Reid said, "I'd consider it."
6:24 p.m.
PBS host Mitch Fox seems a bit frustrated with the candor of the candidates.
After asking if either candidate had a budget that would lay off teachers, he followed up, asking for a yes or no.
Sandoval said, "My plan does not include any teacher layoffs." He said Reid would cut $200 million in K-12 education through furloughs. "So what is it, do you hold education harmless, or remove $200 million from the education budget?"
Fox said, "I'll take that as a maybe."
Rory Reid said, "My plan would not spend any less money than we spent in the last fiscal year on education." That would indeed include spending reductions through furloughs.
6:15 p.m.
Gubernatorial candidates Brian Sandoval and Rory Reid are debating tonight in Las Vegas.
Reid opened the debate tonight emphasizing his theme of being a "strong and experienced leader to get it done." He said he's balanced budgets, stood up to special interests and offered a detailed budget plan.
"Brian seems like a nice person, I'm concerned whether he's his own person," Reid said. "If he does not have the strength to stand up for them, how would he stand up for you."
Sandoval responded, saying Reid "has spent $3 million lying about my record, not a single dollar talking about his own."
He said Reid is telling higher education and K-12 officials he won't cut their budgets and telling the public he won't raise its taxes.
"If you're telling everybody what they want to hear, you're lying to somebody," he said.
I'd like to know what special interests Reid has stood up to. Is he talking about CCFD or Metro? Or maybe he means the other public employee unions?
How can he stand up to those when he courted their endorsements?
Comment removed by moderator. name-calling.
Chunky says:
He heard nothing new or different that any other politician on any side ever says.
The candidates all have canned non-committal answers or practiced answers aimed to politically satisfy their supporters and potential voters.
Why are most elections these days so close? Because they're all lukewarm populist candidates with the same PR firms as the last set of candidates. Everything has to be watered down, PC and palatable for the masses.
Chunky would much rather have someone in office even with somewhat opposing views to Chunky if they'd just quit pandering, grow a pair and get things fired up!
Sorry ladies but Chunky doesn't know that the female equivalent of "grow a pair" is but if you've got it, get it out there and give us a candidate that kicks butt and makes things happen.
Chunky is tired of mild / medium spiced politics and is ready for something hot / spicy and completely against the tried and true boring junk that gets us no place at all! It's like our political system is constipated and needs a good cleansing! We're all stuck in a political traffic jam that makes I-15 look like a picnic!
Whoever it is that can fire us all up and kick out the old-school protectionists is a leader and we need LEADERS not a bunch of career politicians who only know how to give good answers to the media and at election time!
That's what Chunky thinks!
Rory sounds like Harry when he talks about "comprehensive immigration reform" and supporting Obamacare. Rory can disown his last name til the cows come home but those views are tied to his old man.
That's more than enough to give the election to Sandoval.
Rory had a much better grasp on every issue discussed. Brian never answered when he would release his budget plan. Seems we sent Gibbons with no plans. How'd that work out. Rory clear choice
I was watching the Ralston analysis of this debate (Channel 3), and found it interesting to note the northern bias (only individuals from Reno interviewed). How many folks from Reno "weighed in" on the clearly northern outcome of "too close to call"? It's time for southern Nevada to wake up and realize that the northern folks are controlling the government. I think Reid had specifics while Sandoval floundered. How can BS be considered a serious candidate without a single idea? I'm an independent looking for substance, not appearance. Reid is not as polished (obviously), but I'm listening for solutions not "I talked to this guy or that gal about..." What a joke!.
KAR...
I'm not sold on Rory AT ALL, but at least he came out with some analysis of how to address the budgetary issues; even if, as I, don't agree with what he offers, Brian Sandoval has told us ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
"I will not raise taxes."
"Vouchers are the cat's meow."
"No lottery."
There's your Sandoval platform...
I think we are totally screwed.
Rory won in a landside! Sandoval lost bigtime. When asked about NV roads, Sandoval said as an AD he was on some committee talking about roads. Rory had a plan to get federal dollars. When asked about renewable energy, Sandoval said he liked the idea. Rory said by law CA must import 33% of its renewable energy, something we can supply as a state to help balance our budget. Rory had specific plans and responses. Sandoval visits people.
Rory Reid won the debate hands down.
Better plan and better answers.
Sandoval is another greedy republican who wants
to cut teachers pay.
Greedy Sandoval wants to repeal health care for
low wage Americans who need it the most.
Sandoval and Angle should lose on the health
care issue alone.
These greedy republicans have done enough
damage to our country and now they want to
steal health care from low wage Americans.
THESE GREEDY REPUBLICANS ARE HEARTLESS.
LETS GIVE THEM THE BOOT IN NOVEMBER.
VOTE RORY REID.
I'm not a very political person, but Rory got smoked. I started to feel bad for him.
Chunky says:
"We The People" are the losers regardless of the outcome of this election!
Chunky always casts his vote but no matter who is elected not a lot will change, just the rhetoric will sound sweeter to some peoples ears.
That's what Chunky thinks!
I have problems with both. One came out with a budget that does not work. The other attacks for that flaud budget, but has no plans of his own.
So my thought is if we want another Gibbons who just does the same then Sandavol is your vote.
Right now I know I don't want that.
I do want one to be honest and say it will take new taxes, most likely mining to do it. Alaska charges huge royalties to the oil industry and they still drill and pump oil. We have the gold, and at record highs new taxes are not going to scare them away.
Rory has one good point. We need to diversify the Nevada economy beyond gaming and tourism.
The choice is pretty clear. You either vote for someone with a real plan, Rory Reid, or you vote for someone, Sandoval, who has failed to divulge anything about his plan, if he has one, which I doubt. Is it really possible to win an election without a plan? I hope the Nevada voters are smarter than to fall for Sandoval's empty rhetoric.
We already know what republicans stand for-
GREED.
Why would any average worker vote for another
rich, greedy republican?
SAVE OUR STATE AND COUNTRY,
VOTE RORY AND HARRY REID.
I would vote for anyone with half of a brain before ever voteing for either Reid. Like father, like son. Remember the nut dosen't fall far from the tree. Fool me once, crazy you, fool me twice, crazy me. Nevadans, have been fooled time and time again with the Reid boys.
It's really a shame that the other candidates for governor were not invited to participate. I would have liked to have heard Art Lampitt (Libertarian) take them on. Yes, here is the obligatory pitch for his website. :) http://www.artforgov.com
Aaronboy.......
You already got fooled.
Greedy republicans suckered you.
teamster...
the problem is, the greedy republicans suckered them AND CONVINCED THEM THEY LIKED IT!!!
"There now...isn't that nice? We've ruined the economy, sent your job to China, repo'd your house & car, wiped out your savings AND retirement! Doesn't that feel GOOD!?! You've PURGED yourself! No more BAGGAGE to haul around with you like so much JUNK! Your load has been lightened, my friend!
YOU are a 'Great American'!!!"
gmag39......
And they're still voting for these idiots.
These stupid republicans never learn.
Lucky for us, they're the minority in Nevada.
We'll send them packing in November.
This debate confirmed by choice, Rory Reid is the clear winner here! Both were articulate but he had ideas, he had experience and he had a PLAN!
BS never had a plan, so I am assuming that's because he doesn't want anyone to know what he's going to do because we WON'T LIKE IT!
BS supports the lawsuit against health care without offering any solutions to this massive problem and just today the court struck down this lawsuit so again NO SOLUTION.
BS jumped on the hate mexicans bandwagon without any solutions. Never offered any solutions for JOBS so I'm just not impressed with him at all.
RORY REID WAS THE WINNER.
Sandoval is enjoying his victory lap and it is well deserved.
Grasp Rory Grasp.
Did you say you were ashamed of the Reid moniker? How did Pops react to that?
Is it just me or does Rory come off as a 'funny boy' ?
You could see the relief on Rorys face knowing he would not have to debate again. Poor child. Like father like son.
I thought Sandoval did great last night. He has very little to gain from these debates, but he appears to generally want to earn my vote. I liked that he got aggressive with Rory. Rory probably thought Sandoval was just going to sit back and stay mum. When Sandoval hit him early, it took Rory a while to recover.
To all of you Rory supporters, I still need an answer to some questions. First, how can you support Rory's "plans" when they are fanciful? For example, Rory cannot reform education without taking on the teachers' union, yet the spokesman for the teachers' union is an advisor to and major supporter of Rory. How can you promise not to cut spending, but also promise not to raise taxes? Second, how can Rory's supporters get behind Rory's outright lies about Sandoval? Do the ends really justify the means?
How can you vote for a man to run a state when he can't even run the county and even UMC properly. UMC bleeds millions of dollars annually and the county's budget is in the hole for millions of dollars. Now Rory is saying he can balance the state budget. What a lie!!! Just look at his track record.
'Water, water everywhere, nor any drop to drink.'
Th Ancient Mariner can be applied analogously to sound bytes and coherent thinking.
Mindless chatter from the left and the right...nor any real solutions to the problems in sight.
Woe to us, following all of this political banter after the Nov elections.
The hammer is coming down...and it's picking up speed.