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Southern Nevada woman is arrested on suspicion of trying to vote twice

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The FBI arrests Roxanne Rubin, who is charged with attempting to vote more than once in the same election, at the Riviera in Las Vegas on Friday, Nov. 2, 2012.

Voter Fraud Arrest in Vegas

The FBI arrests Roxanne Rubin, who is charged with attempting to vote more than once in the same election, at the Riviera in Las Vegas on Friday, Nov. 2, 2012. Launch slideshow »

Investigators today arrested a Southern Nevada woman suspected of trying to vote twice this week at two different polling locations.

Roxanne Rubin was taken into custody as she arrived for work at the Riviera hotel-casino, investigators said. Rubin, 56, is a registered Republican who lives in Henderson, according to the Clark County Registrar.

Rubin allegedly cast a vote Monday at the Anthem Community Center in Henderson. Later that day, she tried to vote a second time at an early voting location on Eastern Avenue, investigators said.

When Rubin arrived at the second location, a poll worker conducted a routine database check and found Rubin had already voted. When confronted by the poll worker, Rubin denied having voted and claimed the database used by the poll worker was wrong.

Poll workers at the Eastern Avenue location blocked Rubin from voting and notified the county registrar's office, who forwarded the complaint to the Nevada secretary of state.

"There are two important points worth noting in this case," Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller said. "First, is that as we've said and demonstrated in the past, we take all elections complaints very seriously and investigate them thoroughly. Second, this demonstrates the integrity of the system. Someone thought that by going to two different locations they'd be able to cast two ballots. The system immediately caught that, the Task Force responded, and an arrest was made."

"It's also worth noting that the Task Force has at least one other case of voting or attempting to vote twice in an election presently under investigation," Miller said. "We will pursue all such cases and complaints aggressively."

Rubin was booked into the Clark County Detention Center on one felony count of voting twice in the same election.

The Elections Integrity Task Force is a multi-jurisdictional task force made up of state and federal investigators.

While allegations of voter fraud or faulty voting machines are common during a busy election, Clark County Registrar Larry Lomax said this is the first time in his 15 years on the job that a voter has been arrested for trying to cast two ballots.

During early voting, poll workers use a database to look up a voter's registration when the voter checks in at the poll. A card used to activate the voting machine is then programmed with the voter's information and the voter is logged as having cast a ballot. If the voter tries to check in a second time, an alert will flash on a poll worker's screen, Lomax said.

"When we pull you up, if you already voted, it says so right on the screen," Lomax said. "It says this person voted at this site, where and when they voted."

Daily audits are done at each early voting site to make sure the number of activated cards match the number of ballots cast. In Rubin's case, the card numbers matched the number of ballots submitted exactly, dispelling any concerns that Rubin may have received an activated card but never cast a ballot, Lomax said.

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  1. This article should read "Republican woman engages in voter fraud."

    The irony is flabbergasting.

    Republicans have done nothing but obstruct our progress in moving forward. They have been holding up the line and it is time we call out this lazy mentality.

    We need to move forward with or without them.

    GOTV! Get out to vote! Obama 2012!

    Don't hold back!

  2. "Rubin was booked into the Clark County Detention Center on one felony count of voting twice in the same election."

    As if databases are always right. And why are the feds involved, this is obviously a local matter. And why is this a felony? Who was at all harmed??

    "Where once the criminal law might have stood as a well-understood and indisputable statement of shared norms in American society, now there is only a bloated compendium that looks very much like the dreaded federal tax code. The end results can be downright ugly: a soccer mom thrown in jail in a small Texas town for failing to wear a seatbelt; a 12-year-old girl arrested and handcuffed for eating french fries in a Metro station in Washington, DC; and defendants serving 25-year to life sentences in California prisons for, among other things, pilfering a slice of pizza." -- "Overextending the Criminal Law" @ http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v...

  3. First off, was it really her who cast the first vote? Assuming it was, why wasn't the political affiliation of the *other* case being reviewed given?

  4. "First off, was it really her who cast the first vote? Assuming it was, why wasn't the political affiliation of the *other* case being reviewed given?"

    boftx -- good point.

    I would add "let she among you who is without sin cast the first vote."

    "Show me the [voter] and I'll find you the crime." -- Lavrentiy Beria, chief of the Soviet security and secret police under Stalin

  5. Glad they caught her, assuming she's guilty. Our right to vote is one most precious and must be kept free of influence and illegality.

    One good point and two bad:

    Bad that she's a Republican as the left will try to spin an entire fairy tale from a few threads of web.

    Good that folks have noticed the left has been biasing the voters for decades, IE. SEIU, etc., and bad that she chose such a foolish way to do it. I'd say she needs help.

  6. What an amazing irony. The Republicans have been trying to supress the vote nationally a la Jim Crow style laws making it super difficult for minorities and young people to vote....and THEY have one of their own get caught with her hands allegedly in the cookie jar!! WHAT FRIGGIN CHUTZPAH!

  7. I really am amazed that someone would be so stupid as to try to vote twice in this fashion given that Nevada does check identity for just this reason.

    In California, however, it is trivial to vote multiple times. All that is needed is for someone go to a polling place, give the name of a valid voter in that precinct, and then sign the roll. No ID is required, and if asked for the request can be refused. The poll worker MUST let you vote.

    Given that there is usually about 40% of the population who do not show up, there are good odds you can pick a name from the rolls and get away with this.

    Note that the issue of citizenship or being registered doesn't even come into play.

  8. "It was not her fault, she was probably forced to vote twice by dittohead Republicans or paid to do so."

    Bwahaha. Maybe some tea party goons took her on a bus tour of precincts, forcing her to vote over and over again?

    If this were a Democrat charged, we'd essentially hear that precise story, with "union goon" substituted for "tea party goon."

    Also if this were a Democrat, Jim wouldn't be so quick to assume innocence, either.

    Assuming Future will blame this all on ACORNZ!

  9. fnielsen,

    My wife and I lived and voted in California for many years, up until 2005. My wife refused to show ID (she is firmly opposed to voter ID laws) in every election and was ALWAYS allowed to vote. California will NOT prevent anyone from casting a ballot who can give the name and address of a registered voter.

  10. Kevin,

    Our legal system presumes innocence until proven guilt. Given the level of stupidity this act implies I have to wonder. Besides, one should never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by human stupidity.

  11. Perhaps Roxanne Rubingrew up in Chicago where they learn to vote early and vote often...

  12. Even Nevada doesn't require you to show ID when you go vote though, which is something I think people are missing. We don't have a Voter ID law here.

    When I went to vote yesterday, I said my name, I gave my address and I signed in. That was it and then I voted. I was never asked for ID because it isn't required.

    The point I'm making is this. Someone could have easily impersonated her (reasonable doubt for a jury) given that no ID is required to be shown.

    Furthermore, if that did happen to any of you, what would you do? Would you argue with the poll worker?

    Why would she argue with them? Is she somehow unstable? Did she really forget? Or was she really trying to vote twice?

    It probably won't matter because any half good lawyer could get her off by showing that anyone can really vote for anyone if they know what they are doing. What would be the recourse to catch the imposter? Not a lot since there are no security cameras necessarily, they never showed ID to identify themselves, there are so many voters no poll worker would remember them specifically.

    See the point? Voter ID would stop this from happening, and it would also ensure that if Roxanne Rubin really did try to vote twice there would be no doubt. Because they require ID then it's verified and she's definitely going to jail because she would have had to show ID the first time she voted, which means she definitely tried a second time.

  13. @fnielson this is what is so tricky about these requirements. The link you sent only applies to those who are trying to register to vote by mail and those who haven't previously voted.

    Also this section was on the page you linked to:

    Is there any way a voter can avoid having to show ID when he or she votes?

    Yes.

    First, the requirement only applies to voters who have never voted in the county in a federal election. Persons who were already registered as of January 1, 2003, or who change address within the county and re-register, are not required to show ID to vote.

    Second, voters who do not register to vote "by mail" are not required to show ID to vote.

    Third, Section 303(b)(3) states that if the voter provides his or her driver's license number, or the last 4 digits of his or her social security number, on the form to register to vote, and the elections official can verify the number is correct, then the ID requirement does not apply.

    What this means is that if someone wants to vote for someone else. All they have to do is pick a name from the registered voter information and use that information to go vote. Good chance you won't be asked to show ID because the person you picked falls under the criteria of not having to show ID. If they do fall under the criteria (they have never voted in the county, they registered by mail etc.) then you can just say you forgot your ID and walk out and try with a different name a different place.

    However, as botfx said odds are you're probably not going to have a problem. It's an interesting concept and one that is easily possible. Does it happen often? Well there aren't any stats to prove that now are there?

  14. Republicans are not accustomed to voting fraudulantly and get caught. Only the Democrats are good at it and have systems in place that allow them to flourish at it.Afterall ACORN was a Democratic voter fraud machine.

  15. <<Perhaps Roxanne Rubingrew up in Chicago where they learn to vote early and vote often...>>

    In Chicago, I had to show photo ID AND a voter's registration card. If no photo ID, they check the registration card and verify if you are eligible to vote. Because of my last name, I was ALWAYS in the last column near the bottom of the names in that particular precinct.

  16. Looks like an ACORN trained BHO voter...

  17. "Responsible people with legal authority are monitoring for illegal activity at the polls"

  18. @tallison46..
    Highly unlikely that she was a BHO voter since she is Republican !

  19. @BOFT - before I moved from California, I was, for many years, a Judge at the polls. I was required to know, understand, and apply election laws at a polling place. While it is true that no one will be refused a chance to vote, if a signature of a voter does not match the one on file, that person must cast a provisional ballot. The provisional ballot is not processed along with the automated votes. Checking and validation is done after the election, and it will be caught if a person tries to vote more than once. If I am not mistaken, the exact same process is used in Nevada. I always present my ID at my polling place. I think it would go a ways on cutting out confusion. Just because I can legally do something (not show my ID) doesn't mean it is not wise to do so. Have a good one, my friend.

  20. "But yer honor, I was exercising my right as a citizen of the United States of America. I wasn't in my right mind when I mistakenly tried to vote twice. The answer is simple. A clearcut case of Romnesia, yer honor...."

  21. She just passed her audition to become a pundit for Fox News. Move over Sarah Palin. You got competition for Nutball Newswoman of the Night.

  22. O.K. it works like this if you are thought to have voted else where you are still allowed to vote but that ballot is put in the PROVISIONAL box.

    Also Voter fruad and voter registration fruad are two animals, If you were engaged in voter registration fruad then you have not cast a bllot if you cast a ballot then it is voter fruad.

    And they also don't know how she voted the reports are she is a registered Republican.
    It also seems that most of the comments here are an attempt to muddy the water.

    Bottom line there should only be one day to vote. This early voting thing just opens the door for things like this, You have three years and 364 days before the next time to vote make arrangments to be there.

  23. Comment removed by moderator. Inappropriate

  24. Lucky for us we have a Dem watching for fraudulent activity

  25. Right wing media has been telling their faithful for years that voting fraud is easy and rampant. Problem is that it is neither rampant nor easy; it is rare and difficult. While there will always be a few bad apples on both sides, the right has shown this election cycle a pattern of election fraud. The Republican voter registration company, Strategic Allied Consulting, has criminal investigations and charges against them in multiple states. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/25...

  26. While we all have a laugh and assume Roxanne Rubin is guilty as charged... Roxanne Rubin is innocent until proven guilty. Time will tell who is responsible for this alleged voter fraud...

  27. I love the conspiracy theories. You have to know someone's name and address AND be able to sign their name. Most of the general population is bad at forgery. So yes, you probably could get away here and there with taking someone's ballot and going to vote 'for' them. If 40% of the population doesn't vote you might have a 40% chance of picking who won't vote. In a Presidential election 80% to 90% of the registered voters go to the polls. Your odds just got worse. Good chance you'd be caught. Do you all have lists of all the voters lying around your house? Do you know how to download one? Do you even know what it takes to get permissions to download one? Studies have shown there is very, very little real voter fraud. The fraud is when groups of people try to prevent other groups of people from voting. With scare tactics and closing down early voting. Or sending out ballots with the wrong date. Etc. Etc.

  28. PURGATORY, you might have missed this paragraph the reporter so cleverly tried to hide from you in the article. Here it is again:
    "Poll workers at the Eastern Avenue location blocked Rubin from voting and notified the county registrar's office, who forwarded the complaint to the Nevada secretary of state."
    Doesn't mention the dastardly Harry Reid anywhere in the article, and the FBI is the appropriate agency to whom one would report a federal crime.

  29. I am in wonder if there is video to show it was her at both polling places. Someone else I know, was placed in provisional ballot cause someone else had voted in his name.

  30. Larry Bee,

    I read the whole story - kinda my point. How do you suppose all those media were made aware? How do you suppose that such a lengthy story -- with people on the record -- was immediately available? With pictures? Good reporting? The Secretary of State?

    ...pahleeeezzz...

    Thanks for the attempt at schooling me. They are always appreciated.

    Purgatory

  31. @Carolyn Singer There is no permission to get one. Do You know where to download it? http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/Depts/elect... It's easy. It wasn't a conspiracy theory it was an analysis of how the system could be circumvented quite easily.

    And lets be real. I went to vote, God bless the 80 something veteran for volunteering, but if he was going to judge the signature I'd be worried.

  32. Comment removed by moderator. Personal Attack