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State Sen. Ruben Kihuen hugs Astrid Silva while they gather to listen to President Obama’s announcement of new immigration reforms Friday, June 15, 2012, at the offices of the Progressive Leadership Alliance of Nevada.
By Karoun Demirjian (contact) 
Saturday, June 16, 2012 | 2 a.m.
For Astrid Silva, the news came just in time for her 20th anniversary of coming to this country.
President Barack Obama announced Friday that his administration would stop deporting and give work permits to undocumented immigrants who had entered the country as children. It was a gesture of good faith to fire up the Democrats’ Latino base.
It also surprised his political opponents, as well as those in Las Vegas who will soon benefit from the order.
“I had always pictured that I knew how I was going to react when it happened,” Silva said. “You wait so long for something, and then it finally came ... and I felt like I was in a daze. I kept asking, ‘Are you serious? Is this for real?’”
Silva is one of many undocumented immigrants in the Las Vegas area who have come to be known as “the Dreamers.” The name is coined from long-simmering congressional legislation meant to put young, undocumented college students and military enlistees on a path to U.S. citizenship.
Silva’s parents brought her to the United States illegally from Mexico when she was 4 — a start that has prevented Silva from having a driver’s license, Social Security number, passport and an existence free from the fear that at any time, she might be deported.
It’s been a particularly intense waiting game the past several years as Congress has repeatedly fallen short of passing the Dream Act, most recently in 2010, when the measure failed by just five votes.
The Obama administration’s new policy, which offers two-year work visas to would-be Dream Act recipients, doesn’t go as far as that bill.
“This is not amnesty. This is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship. It’s not a permanent fix,” Obama said in a speech at the White House that Silva and about two dozen others scrambled to watch on television in Las Vegas on Friday. “This is a temporary stopgap measure ... giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven young people.”
The Dreamers in Las Vegas didn’t seem disappointed.
“I know that it is a work visa, but that’s something in the right direction; that’s a foot in the door. And that’s what I needed,” said Blanca, a 22-year-old student at UNLV who went to the office of the Progressive Leadership Action Network in Nevada to hear the president’s speech.
Even though Blanca is now guaranteed not to be deported and is likely just 60 days away from a work visa, she still shied away from giving her last name — an old habit to protect herself and her undocumented family, who came to the United States from Mexico when she was just 7 months old.
But as she and her mother Amelia absorbed the news, Blanca couldn’t refrain from slowly planning what the changes would mean.
“It’ll give me the opportunity to finally pay for my own schooling. It will lessen the burden on my parents to pay for my education. I will be the one paying my own tuition ... and it will be perfect because I can save up money for law school,” she said.
Obama’s announcement comes as Congress gears up for another battle over the Dream Act in which Republicans have promised a counterproposal.
Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, whose pull with the Hispanic community has put him on every Republican vice-presidential shortlist, had promised to produce an alternative Dream Act. His proposal would give undocumented youths conditional permanent resident status but not a green card — enough to stay in the country but not enough to become a citizen.
But Rubio hasn’t filed or released any legislative language. At this point, the difference between his heralded bill and the president’s policy announcement would at most be one of scope. Under Obama’s order, undocumented youths can apply for renewable two-year work visas. Rubio’s proposal would give them the same status without the requirement to renew.
Republicans awaiting Rubio’s legislation, who have voted against the original Dream Act, say that still poses a problem.
“The president has had three years to work with Congress to reform the immigration system and help undocumented children,” said Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev. “Unilateral action by the administration will not provide a long-term solution to this very serious issue.”
Rubio suggested that Obama’s actions had, in fact, complicated matters for Dreamers.
“By once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short-term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long-term one,” he said.
Democrats in Congress — conscious of how the Dream Act’s destiny depends on the election — adopted a somewhat more optimistic outlook.
“The president can only do so much administratively, and this measure is temporary and limited by current law,” Sen. Harry Reid said. “The onus is now on Congress to permanently fix our broken immigration system, and I call on my Republican colleagues to help us pass the Dream Act along with comprehensive immigration reform that is tough, fair and practical.”
“Congress must pass the full Dream Act for the young people brought to this country through no fault of their own, who have served this nation and contribute to our society,” said Rep. Shelley Berkley, who is challenging Heller for his Senate seat. “Unfortunately, this will never happen with those in Congress like my opponent, Dean Heller, who opposes the Dream Act.”
But the president’s announcement is not expected to sway the entrenched opinions of politicians in Congress as much as the votes of his Latino constituents — a key constituency for Democrats that has exerted make-or-break electoral weight in Nevada.
Many leaders in that community, such as Fernando Romero, who runs the nonpartisan Hispanics in Politics, had been visibly frustrated with Obama’s immigration policy over the past several months. They criticized him for expending more effort racking up deportations of undocumented immigrants than making good on his 2008 election promise to push for comprehensive immigration reform.
In response, Obama argued in several speeches and interviews that it was outside the scope of his power to change the status quo.
“This notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true,” Obama said last fall. “We are doing everything we can administratively.”
Congress sets the rules for enforcement and establishes the categories and allotment of visas, but it’s the executive branch’s job to determine how they are distributed and applied. That’s what Obama ultimately decided to do Friday — just days before the Supreme Court is set to deliver a ruling on immigration enforcement.
“I’m sad it did take this long, and I’m sad to know that in the interim, so many young men and women were deported while this came about,” Romero said. “But the major point is that it happened. That gives the rest of us a path not necessarily to just continue fighting for the Dream Act, which is something that should have been passed so many years ago, but now it allows us to concentrate on true immigration reform.”
Once again Obama is pandering for voteS instead of creating jobs.
Obama a year ago said that giving amnesty to illegal immigrants could not be done legally.
So 5 months before the election Obama is giving a faux amnesty rule which will not stand up in court but it which will stand through the election. A rule without a law will be overturned.
What if you are 31 and you are going to be deported
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Why now for Obama to get ahead of Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, whose promised to produce an alternative Dream Act. His proposal would give undocumented youths conditional permanent resident status but not a green card -- enough to stay in the country but not enough to become a citizen.
Mr. Obama is asking/ordering a law enforcement agency to break the law and not do the job they are sworn to do under the constitution.
Congress would need to change the law for Mr. Obama to not be exceeding his authority.
This move is just politcal hype.
This is the most divisive president I've ever seen.
Dear Ms. Demirjian,
Our Country is governed by the well-defined and very understandable "rule of law." It was set up that way to protect "we the people" from both an aristocracy, and from a majority rules society.
Call them Dreamers, Hopers, call them whatever you wish. We are on a path that many of our forefathers predicted. This quote is attributed to Benjamin Franklin, and others:
"When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
Effectively, Ms. Demirjian, your articles, including this one, always ignore this obvious self-evident truth.
Purgatory
Enjoyed the article, Karoun.
It should be pointed out that every single Tea/Republican Party politician on the entire planet is blaming President Obama and his entire administration as an excuse why the Congress is blocking, fillibustering, obstructing and voting down the DREAM Act. Stuff that they have voted for in the past.
The very idea of Rubio always saying he is coming out with legislation on immigration is laughable. He just talks. He has nothing. Never had nothing. Senator Reid already called him out for it and what was Rubio's response? Nothing. STILL nothing down on paper. The chances of Rubio coming out with a DREAM Act for consideration are the same as getting hit with lightning here in Las Vegas.
I know deep down in my very soul that President Obama is doing the right thing. Gauging from the very, very cautious response by the Tea/Republicans on this, who of course, don't have any ideas, just veiled criticism. And it's funny their reaction. They are acting affronted, but they aren't pushing it. Because they already know they lost any and all Latino vote now now, but FOREVER.
Heller is a lightweight on this issue. And he knows he is going to get absolutely crushed by the Latino American vote here in Nevada in November. That's why he ain't saying much. He knows if he talks too much about this issue, it would not be politically advantageous. Therefore, you're going to hear pretty much nothing from him about it.
In short, President Obama just embarassed the 112th Congress. They are now certified to be the most useless, incompetent and ineffective Congress America has ever seen. And it's because of the Tea/Republicans and their constant need to fight anything and everything when they aren't in power. This 112th Congress actually congratulates themselves on their "my way or the highway" approach. It's going to backfire on them. The only ones going to be hitting the highway will be them. One by one, all voted out.
Obama/Biden 2012! AND a Democratic Party majority in both the House and the Senate. It can be no other way. Because this divided Government crap is surely not working. Time to dump all Tea/Republicans and relegate them to the scrap heap.
What are the parameters? Where are the responsibilities that go with this?
Anyone allowed to stay should be required to serve in the military and have character testimony required and study in a field that is in demand. If this leads to citizenship, it should take years of working at it and proving oneself. It should be SELECTIVE.
Those young people who were brought here by parents and who have been poor, disruptive students in our children's classrooms should go.
Why can't the Democrats stop giving things away? I'm no Republican, but I won't be voting for either this time around.
The American system of governance is very broken. When you have years of political gridlock, and LAWMAKERS cannot come to a reasonable and final decision about much of anything, NONE of them deserve our support or reelection.
This move by President Obama exemplifies the very serious and grave situation ALL in the Executive Branch of government are in. It seems that politicians are prompted and moved only by making decisions that will favorably affect their upcoming campaigns for reelection for office. Being diligent and expedient are NOT in their vocabulary any longer.
No one wants to deal with the issue of innocent children brought into the USA by their criminal parents. These parents should and need to be punished, as they broke the laws of the land. Their children did not, from are left without any legal standing. These children need a path towards citizenship, and LAWMAKERS have failed to pass anything. So President Obama made the carefully timed and crafted move. Will it help him? Yes. Will it stand in court, probably not, as it is a temporary attempt, a statement.
Perhaps this action by President Obama will put a fire under LAWMAKERS to finally pass some immigration legislation. As Senator Harry Reid declared, "The onus is now on Congress to permanently fix our broken immigration system, and I call on my Republican colleagues to help us pass the Dream Act along with comprehensive immigration reform that is tough, fair and practical." Time to make a decision or get voted out. Americans need our LAWMAKERS to actively WORK, not keep kicking the political can down the road, year after year!!!
Blessings and Peace,
Star
Oh this is just fabulous. Las Vegas has one of the highest unemployment rates and now we allow illegals to compete for the few jobs that are available in this disasterous Obama economy. Obama doesn't care about Americans needing work since he now allows illegals to work when they should not be hear in the first place. How about Obama do something to improve the job situation for Americans. He needs to go in November. He is the worst person ever to be President.
Don't unpack. Expulsions and deportations will ramp up in January. ICE will know where to find you and your parents, so you'll be the first on the list.
It's even a dumb political move. 3/4 of Americans insist YOU MUST LEAVE. Those who emigrated legally get priority for relatives to come here legally. So those happy by this illegal action are not able to vote legally. And the voters are not happy that a candidate puts illegals first in line for jobs, along with their 7 million parents in non-agricultural jobs here, when more than 14 million Americans are out of work and face long-term unemployment, destitution, homelessness. Obama really doesn't want another term. He could man up and resign now, rather than January. He's done enough damage.
A poll in FL shows 69% disapprove of this, 26% approve and 5% undecided. This shows just how out of touch Obama is. Get the kids and the parents will follow them out of the country, then they can apply to enter like everyone else. Now there are 2 problems, one these kids will end up getting the parents in thru visa and second all the illegal that come will now be even more because they know this will happen again. It may not be the childs' fault they were brought here but we have fed, clothe, school and medically treat them for years, they got their fair share of the system already. The ones who have done very well in school can get work visas from companies looking to hire young talent just like every other immigrant has to go thru.
Obama's appeal to the middle class is failing so he is resorting to edicts like this. This is something that only Congress should be dealing with. Obama is running scared and the polls bear this out. This does not solve the unemployment problem and the declining economy. Obama is going to lose big time and the Republicans will win the Presidency, Senate and House. People are not stupid.
THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA.
YOU ARE THE MAN.
Please ignore these heartless, ignorant
republicans.
These are the same people WHO DESTROYED OUR
ECONOMY.
Why would anybody listen to these heartless
fools?
Heartless, greedy republicans will ALWAYS be the
minority party in this country.
Heartless republicans WILL NEVER speak for the
majority of Americans, PERIOD.
NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!
ALWAYS VOTE DEMOCRATIC!!!
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"Gauging from the very, very cautious response by the Tea/Republicans on this, it's funny their reaction. They are acting affronted, but they aren't pushing it. Because they already know they lost any and all Latino votes now and FOREVER."
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There it is..
I'd be smiling too if I were an illegal, they break our laws, get free money for education, free healthcare, free everything and all they need to do use the infamous liberal hype, I'm not illegal, I'm undocumented, you're racist, you owe me, I'm entitled to all that American taxpayers owe me, your laws don't apply.
Essentially what Obama has done is broke the law he was hired to enforce. I am so glad this year is election time; America can't survive 4 more years of that idiot and his staff. I know it will take a couple of years to undo most of what that dumbass has done and I also understand it will take generations for the debt to be lowered and to get rid of the trolls he's created since he took office.
The best part about his term, a liberal won't be elected to that office for a couple generations now that the majority of the people realize that a liberal holding that office is too stupid to know what is best for Americans.
Hey Obama just decided to drop off the bill of rights from the Constitution.
No bigee.....he is a dictator. He can do stuff like that now.
We are no longer a nation of laws.
We got the dictator to take care of us now.
I hope this gets a lot of people off their butts and into action.
We gotta fire our new little dictator.
President Obama's "executive order" on children of illegals having authorization to remain in the United States is an unlawful order. Even as our commander-in-chief, President Obama does not have the right to either violate or circumvent the laws of the land. In contrast, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer and her chief immigration enforcer, Sheriff Joe Arpaio is also in violation of their authorities and jurisdictions. They too, as well, are public servants who are in violation of the laws of the land.
Reagans Amnesty:
Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA)
Public Law 99-603 (Act of 11/6/86), which was passed in order to control and deter illegal immigration to the United States. Its major provisions stipulate legalization of undocumented aliens who had been continuously unlawfully present since 1982, legalization of certain agricultural workers, sanctions for employers who knowingly hire undocumented workers, and increased enforcement at U.S. borders.
Obama's Dream Act:
Under the administration plan, illegal immigrants will be immune from deportation if they were brought to the United States before they turned 16 and are younger than 30, have been in the country for at least five continuous years, have no criminal history, graduated from a U.S. high school or earned a GED, or served in the military. They also can apply for a work permit that will be good for two years with no limits on how many times it can be renewed.
Both are a start. The sociopath right has there knickers all in a knot over this. Pretty funny reading this crud.
Did anyone figure out where these jobs are coming from? Oh that's right, they're coming from the poor black kids that don't have them now.
Children who were brought here by their parents while minors had no control over those actions.
Obama is suspending a law under debate, a law which is denying these people 'equal protection', a Constitutional guarantee. Therefore, that deportation law should be suspended until their rights have been upheld.
The Dream Act would have upheld those rights but those like Dean Heller oppose the Act. You'll notice that the overwhelming majority of Congressmen who oppose the Dream Act are Christians. They claim their thoughts and actions in life are directed by their religious value systems, their personal beliefs and reverence to God.
Would Jesus vote for deportation? Jesus also broke Roman laws and paid the price when his disciples took off running and left him the prisoner of the Romans. Breaking the law is not the issue when morals and rights that are in the balance. Any law that suspends a person's rights should be broken.
It seems the Christians in Congress are vilifying Obama for doing what Jesus would have done. That verifies the fact that mainstream religion in America is nothing more than a social, financial and political action committee that is wrapped up in a robe and carries a cross. Their real reverence is to guns and money.
Those of you who think this is a good thing--allowing a president, or any branch of government, to just decide, based on what they do or do not like, which laws they will obey is the road to dictatorship. You can roll your eyes all you want, but we have the Constitution and the branches of government for a reason. Obama doesn't like the Constitution because it keeps him and his party from doing what they think is "best for the people", which is just whatever it takes to keep them in power--permanently. This has nothing to do with what's good for Hispanics, it's about getting votes by whatever means are necessary. Every time he says "Well, we'll just ignore that" about a law, about the Supreme Court, about Congress, I shudder. Because you guys can laugh it up all you want because he's circumventing laws you disagree with, but in the end we will all lose if we continue to allow end runs around the Constitution and they just toss it aside--they're already trying to do that, and succeeding.
SunJon asked:
"Would Jesus vote for deportation?"
I say:
He might, if the person to be deported was a non repentant criminal. If the persons being deported were looking to support their family, and Caesar had no food in his Kingdom the deportee's were from, nah, we would all have a feast.
Hallelujah!!!
SunJoe, people who are not citizens do NOT have rights under the Constitution! Are you ignorant? Read it!
And as far as Jesus not being for deportation--you atheists always want to throw that at people who are religious. But Jesus always told people to "go and sin no more." He expected everyone to FOLLOW the laws. He followed the laws himself.
Most conservatives believe that changing immigration law is a good idea--to make it easier for those who FOLLOW THE LAW and try to come. We keep those people out for years. Yes, this needs to be reformed. But a country without enforced borders is a country asking for trouble. What other western countries allow indiscriminate illegal or, for that matter, legal immigration?? None!! Not even Mexico. Once again, this is just about getting votes and staying in power, whatever the cost to us, because do you think they are the ones who will suffer? Not at all. We will be like much of the world with a 1-2% powerful, wealthy elite (politicians and the George Soros types who hold the strings)and the rest of us enduring equally in poverty. But hey, at least we'll all be equal, right?
This action is:
Pandering to special interest groups and his base;
An effort to shore up falling polls;
An effort to buy votes;
A pre-emptive action designed to undermine and co-opt the very similar plan proposed by Florida Senator Marco Rubio;
An attempt to side step the US Constitution which gives the authority for establishment of laws via the legislative process.
A likely illegal act in that the president was not given the right to rule by fiat in our constitution.
In short, the president once again used means destined to cause enmity between the legislative and the administration branch and a vehicle that may have to be tested in the courts to determine its constitutionality; and, to buy votes and find favor for purely political reasons and timed to benefit him in the upcoming presidential election. If the president really cared about this issue and these folks he would have:
Worked hand in hand with Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi when he had a clear majority in both houses of congress in his first two years; and,
Worked with the opposition party who has indicated numerous times their willingness to cooperate and compromise on this issue providing a) permanent legislative action was taken to insure constitutional integrity; and,
Included measures to secure the border against future illegal entry by non-citizens and measures to protect and respect the legal sovereignty of the US.
Unfortunately the president has chosen to obfuscate, ignore, refuse to cooperate and instead has acted to falsely blame, accuse and malign for political purposes those stepping forward with their hand extended. He knows that regardless of the outcome he has made himself look good with those groups whom he seeks to influence. After all, he can continue to blame the opposition even if the allegations are false, why change now?
You can't make this stuff up and no one can embarrass this president beyond what is caused by his own actions.
let's be realistic here people.
There is no way to stop the illegals from entering USA.
USA was founded on illegals.
This is a move in the right direction.
People need to grow up.
First off I would like to say I am a american born
and raised. This is suppost to be the land of the free no matter race no mater gender no mater the age why is it everyone bags on immergrants they do jobs that whites or anyone else would not do just to suport there family they are the real ppl not you money hungery ppl i think what obama did was great becuase no one knows how undocomanted immergrants live to live in fear each and every you have no clue and your downing them for coming here most of them it wasnt there fault it was there familys so why blame them that is like if someone robed a bank and u was just there not doing anything but they put u in jail for the rest of ur life just because u was there that is what these ppl go threw every day. i know what they are going threw each and every day try being married to a immegrate and having a daughter with him and in love with him but we live in the shadows becuase ppl like you i am a american i should be alowed to be free like everyone else but i cant be becuase ppl like you judgeing us putting us down and i am white and a american i cant say that enough becuase i went to alabama to see my family and not knowing there laws there my husband could have been deported to a country he dont know or a lauguage he dont speak and never see his 3 yr old daughter again you ppl would feel happy about taking her father away if u would then i hope u can sleep at night. I have noticed the ppl that is upset about this is the ppl that aint actually working just collecting goverment money not a immergrent they work hurting they work sick they work in pain why becuase they do it to take care of there family not to save up for that mid life crises car. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR DOING AND WHO YOUR DOING IT DO WHEN U SAY THE THINGS YOU DO ABOUT PPL. YOU WANT TO BREAK UP A FAMILY LIKE THEY DID BACK IN OLDER TIMES IN HISTORY. SO THE SINGLE PARENT RATES GO UP AND SO DOES GOVERMENT MONEY THAT COMES OUT OF UR CHECKS EACH MONTH. OH YA I BET YOU WOULD LOVE WORKING TO HELP RAISE A IIMMERGRANTS CHILD EVEN BETTER RIGHT I THINK NOT. GIVE IMMERGRANTS WHAT THEY DISERVE TO LIVE FREE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE NOT IN THE SHADOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
crystal says "...no one knows how undocomanted immergrants live to live in fear..."
Yes, it's sad that illegal immigrants have to live in fear that any day they could be deported.
But by the same rights isn't it sad that bank robbers and other criminals have live in fear that any day they could be arrested and sent to prison?
Sorry, but no sympathy whatsoever for criminals who live in fear of getting caught and punished for their crimes.
As for children who were brought into the country illegally....again sorry, but the US Government isn't the bad guy for deporting them...their parents are the bad guys for dragging the kids into it when they decided to break the law.
And children born in the US to illegal parents...seems pretty simple. If a kids parents rob a bank and then get caught, no one shouts "Wait, we can't send the parents to jail...what about the children!". In that case the kids go to relatives if it's an option and if not go into foster care. How is it any different when the crime is "illegal immigration"? Either way the parents need to accept the consequences of their choice to break the law. If the criminal parents choose to have kids, knowing darn well that they could be ripped away from their kids at any time...then once again it's the parents who are the bad guys. They chose to put their children at that risk.
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I get what your trying to say but to punish the kids for what there parents choices are is wrong. The kids that got brough here by there parents think this is there home because it is the only home they know. your telling me that if you go out tomarrow and break the law i need to punish your kids as well i think not. that law was passed for those kids that had no choice in matter. they still have guide lines they have to do.some has been here since he was 3 bearly could talk couldnt read your telling me its ok to send a person that has been here all there life bk to a place they never realy been or known. But going by what your saying if u had a daughter married a illegal and they had a kid it would be ok to seperte that family becaue it aint fair to americans come on please. what are we realy say and what are we teaching our kids that we live in the land of the free but other ppl cant to me it dont sound to free to me lots of laws lots of racieset ppl that care about them selfs and there opion not thinking of how it will affect other ppl and there lives only thinking oh hey it might affect my money realy ppl need to think before they speak......... lets put every kid in jail that there parents broke the law that is pretty much wat your saying.
I went to alabama to visit family and u know what i found out there because of there immagration law they have they are losing alot of money bussiness are shuting down becuase the ppl there dont want to have to work because all the places lost all the immergratins they were kicked out by the law now alambama is in the trash losing more jobs now becuase they are gone so it shows its self that we need this law because more places wouldnt go out of bussiness. illigals cant get works mens comp cant get welfare cant get alot of things that we can so what is wronge with giving them a visa to work that just means more taxes for american that is more moeny in your pocket that just give the immergrants the chance to live here.... so just let it be
Quit crying, heartless republicans.
All presidents have the right to use an
Executive Order, PERIOD!
It's done, eat crow, republicans.
You heartless republicans destroyed our economy,
not President Obama or Hispanics.
The majority of Americans BACK PRESIDENT OBAMA,
not the greedy, heartless republicans.
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS EASILY THE BEST PRESIDENT IN
OUR LIFETIME.
AND WE WILL RE-ELECT HIM.
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"This is the most divisive president I've ever seen."
By implementing Marco Rubio's plan for immigration?
That doesn't make sense. Try again.
The GOP moves the goal posts again. Three years ago, the GOP CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT co-sponsored the DREAM Act.
A few decades ago, the GOP President granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.
They worship at the altar of Reagan but always forget that Reagan was the citizenship fairy.
Now Rubio's abandoned his own plan for immigration reform, a piece of which Obama just implemented. Even he sees the rabid hysteria on the right is too much to contend with these days.
GOP leadership: abandon the plan!
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I have to laugh at these useless Tbaggers because they know the President just Checkmated them. LOL
Illegal executive order will cost us and has been costing us at least $10 BILLION A YEAR. We can't afford to be more concerned about them than us. Let's do the math: 800,000 illegal kids that graduate or.... so let's round up to a million and that's not counting all the illegal kids that don't graduate or do the military. K-12 costs us AT LEAST $10,000 per kid per year. So let's use the underestimated $10K per year: 1,000,000 kids x $10,000 is 10,000,000,000 or $10 Billion a year and that's just the class rooms--double, triple or more for ALL illegal kids. What about school buses, free lunches, free immunizations, free UMC, free housing, free social welfare benefits, free non-profit clothing/shelter/food, cost of law enforcement..... Do you really think that 15-20 million illegals, average adult age about 35 years old, have only a million kids? They have all those anchor babies they are claiming are citizens and they get free everything courtesy of the American taxpayers.
Ya wonder why we're broke?
I believe that these comments are both rude and insipid. Answer me this: do ALL illegal immigrants break the laws?-NO. Do illegal immigrants take our jobs?-NO. If they do get jobs it is for a reason, some of them are more capable than us. Americans also break laws and do you have something to say about that? What if an American criminal killed your family would you blame it on an illegal immigrant? Don't post comments if you hate Obama for what he's doing.We are not broke because of these illegal immigrants, we are broke because of people who are unemployed like some Americans who claim with their insipid excuse that they take our jobs. Most of you are posting because you are scared that they may pose a problem on the long run. What have you done for your country, have you shed tears because your family couldnt be there in your life, have you had to live a life of fear because someone was always on your back? Of course most of you did not. You claim that they take our jobs? Well, why don't you come here and work for me in the hot sun for 12 hours picking vegetables for minimum wage?
The Republicans just lost the election! LOL
Tea..
Think what Obama could do
Cancel all studen loan repayment
Order the IRS to stop taking money from our checks
Order the Treasury Department to increase social security payments by $XXX..and maybe another X.
Order the military out of all foriegn countries
Order the EPA and other agencies to "monitor" without warrant or probable cause..using drones and other high tech technology..for any violation of "green goddess laws"
Order..anything the "president" believes is fair and right.or necessary to secure his continued "presidency" and/or what anyone wants who cries loud enough and will vote democrat
What power the President has to do us all good for our own good according to his whims and philisophical bent!
Who cares how they came to America, they're here illegally and sucking of our resources that are for Americans, not them. They take up classroom seat and many other seats that we pay for and I don't want my money being wasted on them.
People fail to realize or understand that America can't afford to pay for them and we can't afford to let our kids continue have their education taken away from them to accommodate the illegals. It's wrong and I am sick and tired of the excuses or blaming American's for what they've done to us.
Some questions for you:
How many of your public agencies spend our money on printing documents in different languages?
How many job advertisements require bilingual?
How many recordings say press one for English or it automatically speaks Spanish?
How many school districts complain about overcrowding?
How many public agencies have budget problems?
How many billboards do you see daily that are not English?
How many people do you give money to that doesn't speak English?
How many people do you know that are simply American?
Liberals have designed a system that suits their needs and goals and we've been letting them get away with it, it's all in the name of being politically correct, not in my life. My way of being correct, pack their bags or round them up and put them on a way trip to Mexico and let them come here legally. They're not wanted here and I don't care how they feel, they're part of the problem and I am not going to succumb to any part of a liberal agenda.
This is how other countries deal with immigration aka "work infiltrators":
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu told the cabinet at its weekly meeting that an additional plane will leave next week. The operation to repatriate illegal work infiltrators to their countries of origin will be carried out "in an orderly and dignified manner," he explained
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/N...
Xrtra: look up Mexico's constitution, we'd never be allowed to do what they do here there. We'd be imprisoned and our kids wouldn't be citizen if born there and they wouldn't get the free ride. We'd get nothing and we best like it. We can't even drive there without having Mexican insurance or we'd be arrested. The liberals here have conditioned the people to think that by not allowing them or giving them our freebies, we're racists. They've infested into our culture and every aspect of America where our culture and our rights no longer exists. All they need to do gather in crowds and scream racisms loud enough and the politicians are to freaking scared to tell them no in fear of losing a vote where they kowtow to ethnic backgrounds, not Americans or for America.
xtra: Refreshing post. Also note that there are no lengthy and expensive deportation processes. SCOTUS has not ruled that deportation procedures are necessary when the person cannot show s/he entered the country illegally. Let's save a few billion more and forget deportation and GO WITH EXPULSION--immediate and inexpensive--by buses and trains, convoy.
Are we going to work hard to get rid of our little dictator?????????
Hopefully that is a loud yes!!!!!
Volunteer, donate and promote!!!!!
We need to get off our butts.
We can't let that little dictator serve another four years.
Put folks/ business owners who hire illegals in jail and illegals would go home because they wouldn't be able to get work. Case closed!
(Of course that'll never happen, there's too much cheap labor to exploit and too much money to be made!)
this video of Obama say's it all.
http://news.yahoo.com/shock-video-obama-...
BushDepression: Do ya think Arizona will reap the rewards--State laws upheld by SCOTUS--already was--that employers of illegals can be cited / disciplined. So maybe those illegals don't go home, they go to Nevada. Then what? We gonna pay for all of them too?
its2hot: WOW. Even President O. says IT IS A VIOLATION of law.
No more border jumpers! This president is awful! He allows illegal invaders to stay. What a loser! I don't feel the least bit sorry for mexicans. I can't stand them! They are here illegally, and act so arrogant and ridiculous. I work with 100's of them, and don't even say a word to them. They are worthless! So is this president! This loser, an illegal alien from Kenya, is just allowing his fellow illegal aliens to have amnesty. That's his wish, and he'll get it someday. Why? Because the American government, and the American people who love illegal aliens, are the worst in the world.
For those who wanna see this president falter for what he's done, let's go to numbersusa.com where you can fax the president, fax reid, fax whoever. You can also call them! Sign up for numbersusa, and maybe we can do something about this ridiculous executive order. I hate this president. He's so arrogant. He needs to LOSE in november, because what else can he do to stick it to the American workforce? It's scary to even think about it!! He needs to GO!!!!! NOBAMA 2012!!!
sevenhills sucks. America wasn't founded on illegal aliens. It surely wasn't founded on frickin mexicans! Those cockroaches, those border jumpers are worthless!
If one really thinks about it, Obama relatives are here illegally and haven't left even though ordered too do so.
The questions I ask myself, how many illegal immigrant relatives does Obama have in the US?
With his law breaking ways, it's no wonder he hasn't fallen far from the apple tree, he is following is the footsteps of the gene pool.
Sorry but I don't care HOW they got here if they did so illegally then they need to be DEPORTED. This Country really needs to STOP REWARDING CRIMINALS. Sorry about the kids but the law is the law.
@ Connor.
You asked if all ILLEGALS break the law? Do you need a Webster dictionary to read the definition of illegal?
The national dialogue continues. Let's see some leadership from the incumbent and retrace our steps? Anyhow, the national debate needs to consider that western states are more inundated and paying for all the illegals. Second, would allowing illegal teens to stay for 2 years on a work permit mean their parents who broke the law go home? What about their anchor baby siblings who claim to be citizens? What about all the costs for social welfare, K-12 and such for all of the above? We cannot afford to keep them. Not if we want to work, eat, sleep indoors, raise our own kids....