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Sandoval pushes for budget with reduced cuts

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Gov. Brian Sandoval, right, talks with advisors Dale Erquiaga and Heidi Gansert outside an education budget hearing Tuesday, May 3, 2011, at the Legislature in Carson City. Sandoval delivered a televised address Tuesday evening about his budget proposal and his stance to not raise taxes.

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Gov. Brian Sandoval's speech on the budget via KSNV, May 3, 2011.

Gov. Brian Sandoval called on the Legislature to pass his budget with additional revenue to soften cuts, saying government needs to sacrifice to protect the “fragile economic recovery.”

Sandoval gave a televised speech from the governor’s mansion Tuesday, a day after the state projected more money to add to the budget. He repeated familiar themes from his State of the State Address about the Nevada family coming together and making tough choices.

But now he could frame it with benevolence — the state’s economy has recovered slightly, demand for state services in some areas are down and now he has $440 million to add back to the budget.

But Democrats argue that the money, which will be added to the state’s estimated $6 billion budget, will not adequately blunt cuts to K-12, higher education and health and human services.

They added about $700 million in spending on Tuesday in party-line committee votes. (Democrats voted for the increased spending; Republicans stuck with Sandoval.)

Sandoval said he struggles every day with the cuts he has proposed.

“We can’t tax our way out; we can’t cut our way out. We can grow our way out,” he said.

Democratic lawmakers, meanwhile, went mostly silent Tuesday night. Democratic leadership released a brief statement thanking Sandoval for his remarks.

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  1. Gov. Sandogibbons: "The times demand we work together. Serve together. Sacrifice together."

    Not the rich foreign mining corporations. Sandogibbons would rather tax Nevada's working families through salary reductions, pulling their benefits and ending their retirement, and give that money to European and Canadian mining corporations than tax those businesses, who have made millions off of their misery. Sacrifice, in his view, is for working people, not the rich. Call your legislator at 1-800-978-2878 and demand that Sandogibbon's family-hating budget be dumped.

  2. The additional revenue is a pittance compared to what will be required to save education in our state. His announcement is like tossing a handful of crumbs to a victim of starvation: not nearly enough to fill the tremendous need.

    Even Nevada business leaders, including the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce agree that a much more stable, reliable revenue base will be necessary to ensure vital educational infrastructure. A first step is not "sunsetting" the 2009 tax fix proposals. And this is only logical: the governor used the analogy to a family on a budget; and a family on a budget doesn't voluntarily give back a percentage of its income. The GOP can keep their no new taxes pledge and still maintain the 2009 tax fix revenue in place. That will go a long way toward funding education even as our public schools and university system make rational cuts and reforms that can be sustained.

  3. The man is happy as long as his kids are taken care of. Your kids, too bad. Sandogibbons is a shameless ideologue!

  4. Why would Dems add 700 million dollars that does not exist? Learned from the great 'O" no doubt!

  5. Democrats aren't being realistic. They are trying to spend more money for 2011-2013 than we're currently spending. Worse, they want to spend more money in 2011-13 than during our bubble budget of 2007-09.

    Education can't be saved by spending. Spending is not correlated with student achievement. How many letters you have in your state's name, however, is correlated with student achievement.

    In other words, you have more empirical evidence to argue Nevada should change its name to "Ne" in order to improve student achievement than if you claim spending more money will improve student achievement.

    http://www.thewesternwrangler.com/2011/0...

  6. It is refreshing to hear the Governor stand firm on no new taxes. I don't understand why teachers, parents, and administrators don't get the fact that the more money that has been given to education, federally and through the states, the worse the quality of our education system has become. Teachers need to teach the basics and parents need to see to it that their kids understand that they are in school to learn and that it is unacceptable if they goof off, are disrespectful of anyone, and waste teachers time.
    I find it interesting that even the Governor talked about unemployment being down but nobody is saying anything about the number of the jobs that have been filled are temporary summer jobs. Granted, every dollar earned and spent is a great boost for the economy of the state, but I don't see temporary as a way to make valid budget decisions.

  7. Yes, you are right Mr. Gibbons. Why don't we do like college. Just throw a couple of hundred kids in a room and let them listen to a lecture?

    We don't need no stinkin' small classroom, we don't need all those stinkin' teachers with their fancy clothes from JC Penny and their 1990's economy cars.

    How about televised courses? The kids could just stay home and watch TV and get "edjugated."

    I am tired of Mississsippi getting all the accolades for being #50 in just about everything. It's time we stepped up and went for that honor.

  8. Gibbons exaggerates as usual: no one is asking the state to spend more. The education budget will be cut no matter how this budget pie is sliced or how big the pie will be by June 6. Remember: this right-wing ideologue wants an end to public education, to be replaced by a voucher system in which the rich get state subsidies to send their kids to posh private schools (with most teachers holding PhDs or MAs) while every other parent wanders the streets looking for at best Third World-level educations for their kids.

    What Nevada citizens are asking for is a level of spending that won't destroy educational infrastructure so that there's at least a chance at reforming the system in a positive way so as to achieve better results for our state's young people.

    Write your legislators. Ask them at least not to "sunset" the 2009 tax fix. Preserving this much state revenue will still result in cuts to education budgets, but cuts with rational, positive reforms to the system.

  9. We have the lowest tax rate rate on casinos than any other state with casinos.

    We are still ruled by mining laws from the 1800's that allow mining companies to reap huge profits while the states and federal government get little in tax revenue.

    But we would not want Steve Wynn and other zillionaires to suffer, so let's have college students pay higher tuition, and let's eliminate 1000's of teachers in our public schools.

  10. The state needs new revenue?

    UNIONS PAY NO TAX !!

    They should be paying a tax similar to the employee tax businesses pay. Lets start with This new revenue enhancement.

  11. Mr Unger, you're incorrect. Cutting imaginary spending is not a budget cut. What we've done in the past, and what Democrats are hoping to do again, is cut promised increases in spending, but not actually cut how much we spend. In other words, they've exaggerated the budget cuts.

    That said, can you provide us a figure of what you consider adequate spending? More is not a figure we can use.

  12. Tom,

    Class size reduction doesn't help students...there are dozens of papers on this subject spanning 20-30 years maybe more. According to Eric Hanushek of Stanford University, about 85 percent of the studies show students are either harmed by class size reduction programs or they do nothing at all for the students. Class size reduction programs also end up reducing teacher pay a few points.

  13. Tom,

    In regards to casino taxes, we also have 250+ casino operators in the state. Its a highly competitive industry. In states where the tax is higher their are just a handful of competitors. They are granted monopoly status by the state giving them massive profits which the state takes a large chunk as payment to keep extra competition out.

    In other words, we can't raise the gaming taxes here, or at least not raise them anywhere as high as in other states.

  14. PS,

    Mr. Unger, do you consider France a third world country?

  15. If the Democrats want to increase taxes on business why don't we spread the love around. Tax union dues like they were business or service incomes. If unions want to have equal standing with businesses its time they do their part to help the community in the same way.

  16. Sticks and stones will break my bones but most of the words on here are worthless. The people of Nevada need to be responsible for good services and an educational system which would create good workers and a good environment for business. The Sandogibbons budget does neither. Oh, union dues are paid from pre-tax income so some would double tax it? How nuts is that. You must be sniffing glue or perhaps receiving direction from the Koch brothers. By the way, there was an election for the Wisconsin house in which a Democrat handily carried a frequently Republican district. Let that be a less to Sandogibbons and all of those who only have a right wing.

  17. The Governor was a lobbyist for big business - Casinos and Mining. He's still a lobbyist for them. He can be bought for a price too - he doesn't mind giving more tax money to rural Republicans who will vote for him. He will sale his soul for votes and money.

    He does not care, nor will he ever care about the people in Clark County or the kids in public schools. That is a matter of fact, because if he did he would fund programs for the people in Las Vegas. He has told 300,000 kids, 18,000 teachers, and 18,000 staff for K-12 schools in Vegas - row your own canoe and SACRIFICE. . . and please don't notice the big parties thrown for me by the miners and casinos and big money businesses while you are rowing.

    Rather than ask mining billionaires to give a fair share to the state for the gold they take - that will never be returned - he would rather tax people he doesn't like - KIDS. I have a problem with this. I think the GOLD belongs to Nevada. We should not be giving it for free to another country to sale and become billionaires. Let's keep it in America and in Nevada - for the things we need. Before another person from Canada, China, or England takes another billion in gold from our state . . . we better be sure we have the best education system gold can buy.

    Mining needs to be taxed at 5% and pay is fair share instead of taking $4.3 BILLION in deductions.

  18. The truth about proposed cuts to Higher Education in Nevada: the level of 17% cannot legally be achieved without the Board of Regents formally declaring exigency (bankruptcy). This is the reality the NSHE faces. And this would be a first for a unviersity system of the size and scope of the one in our state, and would lead to: the loss of younger faculty who will never return; the possible loss of NCAA division I rankings for both the Runnin' Rebels and the Wolfpack; the elmination of vital programs that serve at least 4,000 students, who would now be forced out of state to finish their degrees; national opprobrium for higher education in Nevada that would make our state like the Nevada Test Site: radioactive for 50 years, hence, only the back benchers or the scrub faculty would ever consider applying to teach on our state.

    This would be one of the worst outcomes possible for economic growth, and for the future prosperity of Nevada. Business leaders agree, knowing that the NSHE yields billions of dollars in economic benefits for our economy. But worse, this level of cuts means severely limited choices and lost opportunities for our state's young people for at least a generation.

    State Senators pay attention: what do you wish your legacy to be? As the destroyer of higher education? Or as a responsible politician who voted to preserve educational infrastructure and human resources so we can build our state for the future.