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Published Friday, Oct. 29, 2010 | 1:44 p.m.
Updated Friday, Oct. 29, 2010 | 4:25 p.m.
Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle sidestepped questions Friday from TV reporters who tracked her to the airport, the latest evidence of a strategy to mostly stay away from the media in her dead-heat race with Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Reporters from the CBS and NBC affiliates surprised the tea party favorite at McCarran International Airport, where they asked her questions about national security and unemployment.
Angle responded, "I will answer those questions when I am the senator."
Pressed further, she added, "The two wars that we are in right now are exactly what we are in."
Upset at the interview tactics, Angle's campaign later told the two news stations they are no longer invited to the candidate's election night party next week.
KSNV-TV News Director Bob Stoldal says Angle spokeswoman Ciara Matthews told his staff they had treated Angle as if she were Paris Hilton.
The brief encounter came on a day when a new poll found the candidates neck-and-neck in a contest that will be crucial in the fight for control of the Senate.
Arizona Sen. John McCain, Republican 2008 presidential nominee, was expected to headline a Las Vegas rally for Angle, while Reid planned to fire up supporters with Filipino boxing champion and politician Manny Pacquiao at his side.
Angle has long fashioned herself as an outsider in the GOP, but McCain's appearance will signal she has prominent support in the Washington GOP establishment.
Since a debate two weeks ago, Angle has made only a handful of public appearances and her interaction with the media has become virtually nonexistent. Her campaign says she spends much of her time going door to door in rural Nevada or attending private fundraisers.
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The GOP is not going to be happy with Ms. Angle over this one. How many more millions are they going to have to spend to overcome her mouth.
I can understand why they don't want her speaking to the press, it costs to much when she opens her mouth.
Nut. Job. How she's gotten this far, on so little, is mind boggling.
Exactly. She's not going to answer any questions pre-election because if she does she will never get elected. Even Las Vegas is smart enough to see that shes useless.
it,s my party ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsYJyVEUaC4
I don't blame Sharron Angle one bit. The media has been less than friendly to Angle's campaign and are just looking for a gotcha moment right before the election.
Does this surprise anybody. She is running scared and does not realize just how crazy she continues to look.
Banning two LV TV stations from election night party because they didn't get permission to ask questions, hmmmmmm is this a sign of things to come, if elected, how she will treat constituents that have legitimate, tough questions about her vote or position - be evasive, retaliatory or unapproachable? Not attributes I would want in my senator.
richard...
HA!
"Crazy" Angle is re- writing the book on how to Win Friends & Influence People, one dumb gaffe at a time.... She'll be a real HIT in D.C.!!!
We'll have the "Nevada Running Senators"... her & John-John, skedaddling away from the media... hollering out "No Comment!" & "It'll all come out in the investigations!"
yep, we'll be famous for our "Running Senators"; NEATO!
Some of the people, and groups of people, that Sharrron has offended during her "Campaign Of Terror" are so naive they haven't even figured out yet they've been insulted.
Don't worry; it'll become VERY CLEAR if you elect her on Tuesday.
6 years of Hell for Nevada.
NO representation in Washington.
Ensign; MOOT.
Angle; toothless & hopelessly clueless.
It's called Reaping what you sow, voters.
Please, God. Rescind your call to Crazy Sharrron to be our next U.S. Senator from Nevada. Maybe there could be an emergency RECALL on her spaceship; faulty wiring or somesuch... we KNOW she's got faulty wiring, for crying out loud, it's not a stretch or anything...
Good for her? why could they not ask the question formally. Sounds like a setup.
The Sun can run all the negative stories they want but she is still going to win.
Why not Obama has done it he has banned Fox he won't go on that channel remember less than a year ago he went on every channel in a week except Fox because they hurt his little feelings I bet the dems forgot about that and you all will be saying she scared she's this she's that.
Who cares what the GOP thinks she is not there for them if she wins she was chosen by the majority of the voters not the good ole boys club.
I don't see what the big deal is, what happens if she doesn't win. The news media has been unfair to Angle. It amazes me that Reid will get any votes. His campaign is pack with lies. Angle didn't pass $800 billion bailouts, Reid did, Angle didn't pass $750 billion stimulus, Reid did, Angle didn't cut Medicare $500 billion for Obamacare, Reid did. Angle didn't cause Social Security to come up short for the first time in 75 years, Reid did, Angle didn't give business tax break and sat and watch jobs go overseas, Reid did for 24 yrs. Angle didn't get rich by passing renewable energy legislaton, Reid and his staff did. Angle did not cause the problems of the state or the nation, Reid did. Obama and Reid set the agenda for the country, Angle does not. Obama and Reid will pass the biggest tax increase in U.S. history if reelected, how do you stop it, VOTE FOR ANGLE. Angle cannot do any of what Reid is saying, it Reid that has and will destroy the country, continue to ruin the economy, force more Nevadans into foreclosure, and cause more jobs to be lost due to his tax increase. Remember it takes consumer spending to stimulate the economy, not a tax increase, a tax increase will only stall any kind of recovery.
I really don't blame her either. Just look at the surroundings of this article. I am an independent and I am appalled at the biased reporting and coverage in this. These wanna be reporters are looking for a sound bite to take out of context. I'll guarantee you they wouldn't show the entire interview if she answered it. They would have taken two seconds of it and distorted it. This election changed, and the polls prove it, after the debate when Angle actually looked and sounded somewhat rationale and articulate and NOT the nutjob that Dirty Harry and the liberal media portrayed her to be. I mean seriously, I'm looking at the background as I type this and its bashing her on a newspaper site. This is the first time EVER that a politician has been attacked like this, and of course its from the Sun. I really am surprised at the way that liberals attack conservative women. What kind of a person calls another a bitch on tv like the Joy Behar did? And she's a "journalist"! But she's allowed to get away with it. Seriously, how did she get away with calling her that? If for no other reason than that, I am probably going to vote for Angle. The left has gotten away with too much in attacking the conservative women candidates in America.
Yesterday, our NBC affiliate played a recording of an Angle speech at a church. Though fuzzy it ended with her saying she did not believe in divorce and prayed to Ronald Reagan (divorced) every night.
NEWS FLASH :
Obama cherry picks those who hear him spew his lies... no difference...
Nevada's ultra liberal extremist media is making news instead of reporting news...
The liberal media is afraid she will make a better Senator than, over - the - hill - Harry.
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Isn't it amazing that the so called OBJECTIVE SUN which is pro Reid never reports any negatives about him. How about his voting record ? 97% voting with the Democratic party, I also don't want to hear that losing Reid will be bad for Nevada. What did he get for Nevada by being Majority leader? Not to much.Let's not be hasty and ignore anything Reid has done in the weeks prior to the election. What about his record of 23 + years. It' s time for Harry to go!!!
How dare they ask the candidate questions that were not pre-approved by her campaign!
This is good, now we are losing freedom of the press in the land of the free!
Angle is crazy, and it pained more than anything in my political life to vote for her, but the DNC simply is not listening to Americans.
The DNC has done nothing to defend its actions to the point radio talk show hosts like Savage, Beck and Doyle can, and do, say anything with ZERO evidence backing up their accusations, and not a peep from the Democrats refuting lies and misconceptions that are rapidly becoming truths in the eyes and ears of enough voters to cause a catastrophe for America.
So perhaps the only way to get Democrats to grow a pair, man up and stop being girlie men is to hand them a resounding mandate in the form of one of the most resounding and embarrassing defeats in US political history.
Angle, who is dumber than a bag of hammers, has the perfect audience to talk to here in NV. Facts don't matter to her supporters, which is awfully handy since she got no facts to work with.
funny --- the bank bailout happened when? how much did we lose on it? don't be shy -- step up with those ignorant answers, folks.
taxes ---- there's no one here who has had their taxes raised since 2008. don't matter -- the mouth breathers think differently --- and lie and lie and lie and lie until they think they've lived through a horrific tax increase. I'm talking about what's actually happened --- not what might happen, according to Bleck and the drug addict, Limbaugh.
Socialism? Point to something --- anything --- ANYTHING that's changed that makes us now socialists.
but the valley is full of idiots --- racist, I got mine, idiots.
ugh --- and they don't want to hear from their first darling of ignorance? how very friggin' convenient.
@jke1717 I am right there with you. I am non-part. and voted a mixed ticket. The LV Sun and News 3 bias was off the chart. Their unfair/one sided reporting was sickening. The way she was treated, I would not invite anyone either. LV Sun and News 3 should be ashamed.
Going door to door in rural Nevada is so much more effective than speaking to the press.
Sounds like she has some sort of secret plan, since she won't speak until after she is Senator. My guess is that we'll find out her secret plan via Faux News rather than C-Span.
She does not want people to know the truth... A cow pie is smarter than her and her supporters!
This is an excellent example as to the character of that woman running from the press. I feel we should make this test of access for the press not necessary.
No Victory party , No Victory and NO absolutely NO to S, Angle.
"Socialism? Point to something --- anything --- ANYTHING that's changed that makes us now socialists." - vegas_tom
The hallmark of socialism is government ownership of the means of production. What do you call a majority position in the ownership of GM by the federal government?
I agree with Angle. The media has excoriated her all year. She is deliberately punishing them for their lack of tact and good sense.
I am completely mystified how anyone of even average intelligence could even consider voting for this person. If elected will citizens of Nevada who ask questions or request assistance of this elected official be ostracized or interned for not asking permission to speak? What ever you may think of Harry Reid, his office was always open to all citizens of Nevada and I can attest from personal experience it was always open to veterans. Please! Please! Consider the consequences of a vote for Sharon Angle. This banning of news sources is just another example of bizarre, uncompromising and fanatic behavior that assumes she is able channel the "Founding Fathers."
This is unbelievable a senate candidate that doesn't want to explain her position to the public until after she elected to office. But the worst part is she is in a dead heat to be elected. I am sorry to say this really doesn't say much about Nevada voters. I guess after the election we find out what she stands for when it's to late.
"What do you call a majority position in the ownership of GM by the federal government?"
That's called temporary... unlike ACTUAL socialism, when that ownership is permanent.
More proof the radical right needs a dictionary.
"Well, I have obviously made a decision to make sure the economy doesn't collapse. I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." - Avowed Socialist George W. Bush
"President George W. Bush stepped in Friday to keep America's auto industry afloat, announcing a $17.4 billion bailout for GM and Chrysler, with the terms of the loans requiring that the firms radically restructure and show they can become profitable soon."
Let's also point out that the temporary intervention with loans to GM and Chrysler was proposed by George W. Bush, the leader of the republican party, and supported by fiscal hawks like Paul Ryan.
Boftx, are you calling Paul Ryan a socialist?
Dumb, dumber, dumbest..... the nutcase strikes again and the whole world is laughing AT the Nevada Repukeblicans!!!
At least the old hag doesn't have to worry about getting a costume for Halloween.
Figures that Reid has to bring in an alien to rally his losers.
A warning for all of the voters getting ready to vote for Sharron Angle or if you are getting ready to vote for any other senator other than Reid. Recall that Ensign is under investigation and may probably have to resign and he is quite a junior senator so does not carry much weight. Similarly, Sharron Angle can't even face the press or the public here in NV without saying something stupid, so I am wondering what a wonderful speaker and team maker she will be in the Senate? The bottom line is that Yucca Mountain will reopen and for those of you who live in Las Vegas, it is not far from your homes, so if an adverse event occurs, Las Vegas real estate will go to zero value and the gambling/tourist business will die out immediately. So forget about what else Sharron Angle stands for; that is against social security, health care for every one, no abortion for even rape and incest victims, no more extensions of unemployment benefits, against medicare, against veterans by making the VA private and against education as she wants to eliminate the Dept. of Education. Go ahead and vote for Sharron Angle and you will find out yourselves how sorry this state of NV will become.
ksand,
I haven't gone back to check for sure, and I might be wrong, but as I recall it was Obama who set the final terms that not only gave the government a majority stake, but also gave a substantial holding to the unions after taking away holdings from the original bond holders.
"Do you recall a speaker of the House, before passing a bill, saying "we won't know what's in it until we pass it!" Where was your outrage then?"
There was no outrage because that's not what she said.
Her actual quote: "But WE have to pass the bill so that YOU can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.
Maybe that's because of people who spread false quotes, misinformation, slander and lies about politicians and bills... like you.
Actually, the original terms of the loan were set by the Bush administration, and the greatest majority of the funds were dispersed prior to Obama's inauguration, boftx. Bush announced the auto bailouts in December of 2008.
Need I remind you: the auto companies begged for the intervention in the first place. Government didn't seize GM or Chrysler. Furthermore, the intervention was temporary.
It doesn't fit any rational definition of socialism.
Try again.
ksand,
Yes, the original terms were set by Bush ( http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/20/busine... ), but the final terms were set by Obama ( http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/3322... ) and included the government and union ownership positions.
I'm not going to post the Politifact fact check, I'll leave it to you, and others, to look it up.
And it's only temporary if the government sells its stock, when will that happen? And even that doesn't justify Obama's handing a substantial stake to the unions at the bond holders' expense.
On a tangent, how do you explain Reid claiming that Ford only survived because it took part in the bailout? (Hint: Ford was the only one of the Big Three *not* to take a bailout. Do a Google on it for a YouTube video showing Reid say that on the Senate floor.)
How can you vote for a couple with an attitude on this video.
This woman is so arrogant. How can any citizen want her as their senator.............
I band the station she would allow, hows that you nut case.
And you want to vote for someone that hides.
if you vote for this nut, will come back to hurt you.
When Nathan Baca got Reid to say: "there weren't any illegals working in the Nevada construction industry"....the Angle camp didn't complain. Seems to me he tries to ask tough questions of both sides, unlike talk radio sycophants Heidi Harris and Alan Stock.
Ciara Terns Mathews (I believe married to someone out at NPRI) worked for station KXNT. Look at the way KXNT whitewash the John Ensign "affair."
Ciara Terns won the KXNT "radio star contest." Another winner? Heather Kydd, the former "youth coordinator for John Ensign and Secretary of the Clark County Republican Party. Do we see a "pattern" here?
The Ensign cover up? and whitewash?
Alan Stock has lunch with Ensign a week before the radio "interview." (aka softball game)
Then the Station, KXNT, has an unscientific Internet poll concerning what question they want asked. Questions on the affair or questions on policy. Surprise! The listeners want questions on policy. (Guess they ended up with a number of calloused fingers out at Ensign headquarters.)
Then Ensign dodges real media by using a decoy car at the radio station's studio.
The BIG interview??? Alan Stock just threw a few softball questions at poor Ensign with no follow-up.
This is the kind of press access Angle, Ciara Mathews, Alan Stock an Heidi Harris want?
The ditto-heads manta is "don't think, let the Rush Limbaugh's of this world think for you."
The Afghanistan War has about a 25% approval rating with the American people. It should be an issue for Senate Candidates. If Angle thinks government can't work in America, why does she think it can work in Iraq and Afghanistan?
The latest
The republicans thugs are going to take you out!
their doing it all through the country.
They stomp on you and want you to apologize.
Sue, baby, sue
I was unaware that Saddam Hussein's media spokesperson survived the downfall of Saddam's regime and went to work for the Angle campaign.
This is how the media is treated in North Korea, China, Iran when they don't fall in lock-step with what the party wants.
This type of blatant attempt to suppress/intimidate the media should, in itself, disqualify this dangerous individual from holding any public office.
Our Liberal Democrat commenters are all worked up and in a feeding frenzy this evening.
I don't blame Sharron Angle one bit. The media has been less than friendly to Angle's campaign and are just looking for a gotcha moment right before the election.
"The media has been less than friendly to Angle's campaign ..." - LarryVegas
Larry,
How can you even think such a thing?!? Haven't you read this story? http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/elsewhe...
Reid himself has proclaimed it so it must be true!
Banned the TV stations because they asked her questions? And Nevadans are gonna vote for this nitwit?
She and the other Tea Party candidates in the country don't want to do interviews or answer questions because they don't want to expose the fact that they are totally unqualified to sit in Congress.
Can you idiots that say you're gonna vote for her not realize this and what a disaster she'd be representing you in Congress? You think Harry Reid is bad? Wait until this ignorant nitwit gets in there and see how she runs this State and this country further into the dumper.
Stock up on your crying towels you're gonna need about six years worth if she wins.
She's NUTS,...this kind of activity should be expected. You think Harry was bad,...elect this loon!
Why does Liberals Democrats hate so much?
Or maybe they know that Harry Reid is finished and they are expressing themselves in the only way they know how...
the fact that any number of people are actually seriously considering voting for Angle is a testament to how bad a job Harry Reid has done. I am a registered republican and I just can't bring myself to vote for Angle she is so far off the wagon it's really scary. Normally an election is the lesser of two evils but this one is absolutely pathetic either chose a scumbag lifetime politician in Reid or elect a yahoo like Angle. Ugh. Either way Nevada is losing
She is a nut job, plain and simple. You can lean left or you can lean right, but you can't change the fact that Angle is out there.
Now that said, I'll agree with some posters that the Sun has gone too far. They should not have accepted ads in every corner bashing Angle. One would have been enough. Its tasteless and uncalled for, regardless of the revenue.
Frau Angle believes, like other fascists, that the press exists as a propaganda tool. Hitler and Mussolini controlled the press in their regimes and Frau Angle follows suit. Frau Angle uses Fox News and hate radio to disseminate lies and pleas for money. Frau Angle has no need for serious journalism that might question her views and her ignorance.
boftx- The final terms of the GM bailout were absolutely managed by Obama. GM was taking money, but not making the major changes needed to turn the company around. Obama fired the CEO, and his administration managed their restructuring. They have now had two censecutive profitable quarters, and when they issue stock, the taxpayers will likely see all of their money back. Pretty impressive considering the govt bailed them out for several times their market capitalization.
Bailing out the auto industry was not an investment any private sector investment group would have made, but if the govt would not have stepped in the alternative would have been the loss of approximately 1M jobs.
Personally I think the results have been outstanding and I am glad a million people aren't suffering because of the decisions made by a few dozen executives. I am also happy we aren't paying 1M more people's unemployment.
VegasEngineer,
The biggest problem I have with the bailout was not that the government took a majority position, but how the bond holders were hung out to dry so to speak and the unions given a stake in their place when they (the unions) appear to be a factor in causing the problems in the first place.
Violent commenter "Libslapper" claims "And I basically said the same thing! POTATO... POTAH-TOE! They forced fed us a law against the will of the american people."
Wrong. Stop lying. You claimed she said she needed to pass it before SHE knew what was in it. That's a lie. It's not what she said, and in context, it makes you look like you're just passing propaganda that you're not smart enough to discern.
As for "against the will of the american [sic] people, a recent poll showed that 2 out of 3 thought the bill DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH, as opposed to the 1 in 3 who wants it repealed. Facts are a difficult thing for you to understand, apparently.
Her actual quote: "But WE have to pass the bill so that YOU can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.
Maybe that's because of people who spread false quotes, misinformation, slander and lies about politicians and bills... like you.
"On a tangent, how do you explain Reid claiming that Ford only survived because it took part in the bailout?"
Oh boftx, again you're being disingenuous about what Reid said. First you did so with Reid's comments about undocumented workers. Then about Pelosi's comments about health care reform. Now with Reid's supposed comments about Ford?
For those who aren't inclined to fact-check, let's go back to what he ACTUALLY said,
Reid: "Well, isn't it a good thing we did? Isn't it a good thing today in America we have an automobile manufacturing sector? If it had been up to them (Republicans), General Motors would be gone. If it were up to them, Ford Motor Company would probably be gone. Chrysler would definitely be gone."
He specifically used the word "probably." He never said they "only survived because [Ford] took part in the bailout."
"He specifically was speaking about jobs and more broadly about the entire auto sector. Had Chrysler and General Motors folded, many industry suppliers would have followed suit, leaving Ford with substantially less than a full deck. And even though automaker did not accept federal assistance, it told the Senate Banking Committee in 2008 that it was "critically important that loans are available to us and the domestic auto industry" should the downturn prove longer and deeper than anticipated."
Boftx, every time you seem to illicit praise for being a voice of reason, you bring up some patently-false revisionist history, a severely mangled, out-of-context quote or an outright lie. Funny, you seem to be a resourceful guy. Why can't you do a simple google search before posting this nonsense?
Or are you doing it intentionally?
"And it's only temporary if the government sells its stock, when will that happen?"
GM's IPO is set to be offered in weeks. Again, another easily-Googled fact.
Mrs. Angle could use the services of a good plastic surgeon...Someone to take the alcoholic look out of her sagging eye sockets.
I thought everyone was complaining there wasn't enough transparency in government. Isn't asking questions of people running for government office part of transparency. I would like to know more of what Angles thoughts and ideas are on different subjects. Why she feels so strongly about her ideas. What she plains to do. The job of sentor isn't a fluff job. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. It goes with the territory. As her employer we have a right to ask questions and get answers. Have you ever been interviewed for a job? They do back round checks, drug testing, etc.
What is she hiding ?????
What I thought was funny was the reporter that asked these questions explained how he found out Sharron Angle (and her husband) was going to the airport was via a Tweet someone sent that said they were sitting right next to her and that she was going to the airport. So, the news crew hustled together and hauled tail to the airport to intercept her.
Sharron Angle runs, but she can't hide.
Her ability to only find news sources that ask her softball questions she likes is transparent. It means she is devoid of any intelligence coupled with she has something to hide. Probably MANY things to hide. It is guaranteed we won't find out much about her at all. Because she just wants votes and money, but she don't want to work for either of them. Charismatic behavior only works for a little while. Then people ignore you. But the problem is...she contains not one iota of charismatic behavior to make her electable. Nor worth talking to. From everything I see, she's the type of person you talk to one-on-one and then you suddenly lock up, get this vacant look on your face, smile politely just to be nice, inwardly asking yourself, oh my gosh, why exactly am I talking with her, and how the hell do I get away from her?
She don't seem to understand that the media are empowered to ask questions and inform people. The media speaks for the people and are synonymous with them. When she shuts them all out, then she is shunning people and remaining incommunicado, clearly refusing to speak to them. She don't give a damn about them other than to say stupid vague generalities focused towards getting her easy votes and money. But when pressed for further details, THAT'S when she shuts up. Because she has no idea nor a clue.
Stupid way to run a campaign to try to get people to vote for you.
But, after this exchange at the airport, we can totally understand why she ducks the press (quoted from above article):
"Pressed further, she added, 'The two wars that we are in right now are exactly what we are in.'"
Huh? I can just see right now the raised eyebrow and questioning look from Keith Olbermann from MSNBC at that incredible literary insight exuded from the lips of the esteemed Sharron Angle.
And people want to elect her to represent Nevada in important foreign policy decisions?
And we want her in charge of directing tip-of-the-spear military operations?
Sending our life blood to foreign lands in harm's way?
As a retired Navy veteran, I would safely say....No. Hell no. Keep her out. Anyways, from all indications shown, she would love to send military somewhere in some stupid war, but when they come back broken, there would be nothing for them anyways. Because she already dismantled Veterans Affairs and made money off of that.
My vote still stays with Senator Reid. I prefer sanity over tea.
One only has to look at this website to see why Angle is avoiding much of the media. The News Media in Cuba is more impartial.
shes the laughing stock of the nation. chavez of venezuela and castro from cuba are giving her advice regarding public relations. what a class act!
This is not what we want from a Senator. Imperious and petulant now, and given her "God" complex, we would be in for a rough four years. Good thing she is going to lose.
Nevada is not as loony as Angle.
National security and unemployment? These are complex issues that require thoughtful comments and it is surprising that team Angle has not prepped her thoroughly. On the other hand, maybe Angle is just not teachable.
If she cannot be taught, then her 6 year term would be a throw-away. Ineffective and inept, she would be an anchor that will keep Nevada in the back-waters of the country. She would not have to worry about answering those complex questions, because no one would care enough to ask.
Sharron Angle can't answer any questions simply because she's stupid. End of story.
The media groups banished from Sharron's victory party, won't have a live feed on the historic night. These intrusive and over zealous "in your face" interviews on the run are subject to consequences.
These deprived media groups will have full access to Harry Reid's melancholy gathering across town.
Here is just one of many links to the video where Reid lumps Ford with GM and Chrysler, as well as New York for that matter. The full context gives no indication that he wasn't including them in the bailout.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...
Sharon Angle is not a leader, she is a COWARD! Sharon, what do you have to hide? Not in your job description? Quit hiding the truth!
"Here is just one of many links to the video where Reid lumps Ford with GM and Chrysler, as well as New York for that matter. The full context gives no indication that he wasn't including them in the bailout."
Reading comprehension, boftx. That's the exact quote I wrote in my post above. So I'll copy and repost the analysis to which you could not argue:
He specifically used the word "probably." He never said they "only survived because [Ford] took part in the bailout."
"He specifically was speaking about jobs and more broadly about the entire auto sector. Had Chrysler and General Motors folded, many industry suppliers would have followed suit, leaving Ford with substantially less than a full deck. And even though automaker did not accept federal assistance, it told the Senate Banking Committee in 2008 that it was "critically important that loans are available to us and the domestic auto industry" should the downturn prove longer and deeper than anticipated."
Boftx, every time you seem to ellicit praise for being a voice of reason, you bring up some patently-false revisionist history, a severely mangled, out-of-context quote or an outright lie. Funny, you seem to be a resourceful guy. Why can't you do a simple google search before posting this nonsense?
Or are you doing it intentionally?
ksand, will you please post a link to a recognized, respected site that takes your position on this? I haven't checked the thousands of sites that come back when Googling this, but the first few pages appear to all take my view on it.
The clip speaks for itself.
Ford survived on its own.
Why don't Ms. Angle make Mr. McCain fry her some real fresh and hot French fries, so that she can either eat those or just stick them where the sun never shines, before she starts yelling the microphone...:)
I bet she places her microphone in a filled whiskey jar, when she does not use it, so that the mic is always to drunk to get sick and out-of-order when being used to transmit all the political campaign-related lies of Ms. Angle... LOL :)
Ahhh... The bitterness from the Liberal Democrat commenters has reached a new height. But their bitterness has not changed that Sharron Angle is still ahead of Harry Reid in the polls.
Sharron Angle camp bans the teamster and Harry Reid from her election party.
Oh, look. LOOK!
A "crazy" lady has an 18-year professional pol on THE ROPES!
Time for some ROPE-A-DOPE, Harry.
Quick, Harry, go out and find some Latino boxer to mug with. OOps! Did I say "mug"? My bad. Most Nevada voters think that they are being 'mugged' financially by the border-jumping illegals so, that's like a FATAL political photo with Pac-Man.
Have fun in RETIREMENT, Harry.
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Good for her! the way the news media have treated Sharron Angle, I don't blame her one bit.( There is NO reason for Sharron Angle to Talk to the news. Her supporters know what she stands for.
Angle and Sandoval both are wise to avoid the government media. The main stream media are in bed with the liberals and, therefore, the enemies of conservatives. They take statements out of context, twist the words, distort phrases and meanings and even just plain lie about conservative candidates. Reid does, too. But, in the fair and balanced live debate between Reid and Angle, she mopped the floor with old "where's my papers" Reid.
Some people are wondering just what Washington has done to push socialism upon The People. Huh? There isn't enough room on this page to list it all. How about listing something in our lives that the govt. is NOT in someway controlling or taxing? That would take up less than a sentence to print, but a helluva lot of time to search for. If the term "socialism" offends you, use "tyranny".
TIME FOR A TONYCRAZO CHECK:
"So the right wing racists..."
"Too bad these cowards don't have the courage..."
"They are all racist cowards of course..."
"...they support a racist coward..."
All Democrats should be proud of their TonyCrazo...
TonyCrago: What do you mean by pacman? I'm not much for threats, don't know where you came from, and don't really care,I do know where you can go. Tony- Don't have so much confidence in the flesh, you know the things that you think that you can do, life; it's always full of Men who know how to take a stand, and win. So why would you call someone racist for wanting to protect there country? I asked you the same question previously, no answer. Some people want to push others around, disrespect their laws, I; like so many other American Citizens will take our Country back one way or the other(PERIOD)!
Where is BobbyG? Bobby is smart, he know's it's a waste of time, Senarot Reid lost the race for Senate.
Michigan paper agrees that Ford probably would not have survived without GM/Chrysler bailout and guaranteed funds for Ford because of the effect on the suppliers:
http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2010...
The Michigan paper gives proper context to a sentence you took out of context and mangled to claim Reid said something he did not. In fact, that article is a direct rebuttal to those (like you) who mangled the intent of Reid's speech.
"Ford survived on its own."
And Reid didn't claim they accepted bailout cash in the speech you quoted.
Let me copy and paste it again, since you don't even seem to understand your own video and quote:
Reid: "Well, isn't it a good thing we did? Isn't it a good thing today in America we have an automobile manufacturing sector? If it had been up to them (Republicans), General Motors would be gone. If it were up to them, Ford Motor Company would probably be gone. Chrysler would definitely be gone."
Here's Ford's CEO Alan Mullaly on Greta Van Sustern:
"Well, it is a very interesting dilemma, because the industry is so interdependent that nearly 70 percent of the dollar value of any one of our cars is with our supply base, and our supply base produces about 70 percent of their volume go to all three of the manufactures, plus the Japanese."
"So the concern is, of course, that if a major automobile company would go into bankruptcy, that it could take the suppliers into bankruptcy, and then ultimately take us into bankruptcy."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,4692...
Even Ford's CEO, the guy whose stewardship meant Ford didn't need bailout cash, recognizes the importance of keeping GM/Chrysler afloat, and agrees with Reid's assessment.
So I've provided you with a link, plus the words of the CEO who has a far greater knowledge of the innerworking of the automobile industry.
So you took a single sentence out of context and mangled its intent, claiming Reid said something he didn't say... and what he did say is supported by Michigan press and Ford's own CEO. Good job, boftx.
Any candidate who denies Freedom of the Press does not deserve my vote, her majesty Sharron is unfit to serve, unfit to govern and has no clue as to what "we the people" is all about, Freedom, which includes freedom of the press.
"Sharon Angle is not a leader, she is a COWARD! Sharon, what do you have to hide? Not in your job description? Quit hiding the truth!"
A politician isn't a leader, but a media image created by the "free" press.
I m looking for a Sharron Angle mask for Halloween tonight, anyone here can hook me up?
:-)
Angle's "victory" party is planned to be held at the Venetian? That should tell folks all they need to know! LOL
To the people of Nevada,
I'm sorry that things are so bad there that many of you are considering a vote for Ms. Angle.
If you truly want things to get better, you do not want to send this disturbingly unqualified person to Washington.
Honestly, I'm not thrilled with Sen. Reid, either. He is a poor voice for Democrats as a majority leader. Just the fact that this race is competitive reflects that.
But take a deep breath before you enter that voting booth, and think about what you are about to unleash on the American people. Our most emotional decisions are our worst ones. While you relax and consider your vote, ask yourself these questions:
--If she's such a great American, why does she hate democracy? (see: her refusal to answer valid questions and her unprecedented attempt to ban major TV stations from covering her Tuesday night concession speech.)
--Why does she hate minorities? Most of the Republican Party, despite the fact that it sends white male after white male to Washington, has come around to the fact that minorities are equal, and must be treated as such for this nation to function.
--Will her presence in Washington, and her near certain isolation from mainstream Republicans, further destroy Nevada's image and ability to draw federal funding, which is critical to turning things around, as shown by the SUCCESSFUL stimulus program, which saved this entire country from turning into a Depression-era Dust Bowl. (President Bush's bank bailout, TARP, was also a tremendous success.)
If all of above fails to bring you around, and if you really hate the president for whatever reason, you might consider this: a vote for Ms. Angle to spin like the Tasmanian Devil through DC will prove to be so damaging to the country, it will virtually guarantee a second term for... President Obama.
TonyCrago- There are Voters who are from all races, who supports Sharron Angle, we're call Americans; one people. The race card is not working. I don't have to compare myself with you or anyone. I will not make threats like a little child. I will protect, and defend this country from it's enemies foreign,or domestic. That is a promise.
I you want more secretcy in government, if you want the good old boys running this country, if you want suppression of civil liberties, if you want no freedom of speech, if you want the CIA running rampant, if you want the police investigating YOU, if you want a scary country, vote for Angle. Problem is- once you get people like this in, they multiple and you can't get them out.
thinkbeforeyouvote: think before you suggest anyone voting for opened borders Harry Reid, he cares nothing about this country, this fool voted against English being the National Language for the United States, Stood up and appaulded the President of Mexico when he denounces the Gov. Of Arizona for protecting her Citizens, Senator Reid Stood up with a Foreign President, against the Governor of AZ. Senator Reid voted to give illegal aliens social security, and to have no limit on illegal aliens receiving social services benefits such as food stamps, medical,or dental, housing, public schooling, Reid voted with Obama and sholved this obama care down the throats of the American people. Did Sinister Reid put you up to this. I'm voting for Sharron Angle come tuesday Nov.2
This is a really odd new trend That Sharron Angle has perfected.
Totally avoid any hard questions whatsoever, go on stump tours and shout out slogans.
Begs the question, what lack of brains are they trying to hide.
Fellow TeaHeads Christine O'Donnell and Rand Paul have likewise refused to answer any questions, just running on slogans.
But most telling - and that NV residents, even Angle fans should be concerned about:
How does one determine if she is worthy of being the Senator without knowing her real stand on the issues?
I guess slogans are all you need to run for office.
Good, TV is for the uneducated & uninformed. Mainstream media is an utter joke thats owned & operated by the hands of few. Seriously, people defending TV? People have no lives.
Sharron Angle is running to supposedly protect Our Rights, but what she really wants to do is to Take Away Our Rights.....No Medicare, No Social Security, No Students Loans, No Pell Grants, No Unemployment Benefits, No Maternity Leave, No Womens' Rights to Chose, and No Regulations On Big Business. What she does want is to SHIP JOBS OVERSEAS,AND EXTEND TAX CUTS TO THE WEALTHY... SHE WANTS TO CONFUSE PEOPLE BY HER LIES ABOUT HARRY REID, SHE WANTS TO DENY GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE TO OTHERS WHILE SHE IS ON IT HERSELF....SHE IS NOT A CANDIDATE FOR THE PEOPLE....She runs away from reporters because she doesn't know how to answer any questions unless they are from Fox News. DON'T BE TRICKED INTO VOTING FOR HER!!!! DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS AND VOTE FOR HARRY REID....
" Our Rights.....No Medicare, No Social Security, No Students Loans, No Pell Grants, No Unemployment Benefits, No Maternity Leave, No Womens' Rights to Chose, and No Regulations On Big Business"
I know you really really REALLY believe in entitlements and government spending but none of the above is enumerate as a right in the Constitution (I guess you can say that the "right to kill your unborn" because of the corrupt court system is in the Constitution").
Perhaps you should one day actually read the US Constitution.
Do I hear a little doom and gloom coming from the far left?
"SHE WANTS TO CONFUSE PEOPLE BY HER LIES ABOUT HARRY REID,"
Oh, it's crying time again, Harry's gonna leave me...
luvnmaggie - Sharron Angle have not lied on Senator Reid, we all know by now who the real liar is; you got it. Sinister Reid. I sometimes call him open borders Harry.
A vote for Senator Reid, is a vote for illegal aliens
One work for Ms. Angle.
Loser!