Friendly and clean sure beat out mean
Las Vegas hotels getting the message that customer service should be a top priority in this economy
Sunday, May 30, 2010 | 2 a.m.
Chris Morris/Special to the Sun
Customer service in flux
Market Metrix, which develops research and marketing programs that help improve service at hotels and casinos, surveys a regular panel of frequent travelers online and posts the results on its website. The customer service indexes, based on 35,000 traveler surveys every quarter, represent customer satisfaction scores on scales of 1 to 100. A score of 80, for example, indicates that guests' expectations were met, or slightly more than met. Over the past four years, scores for casinos, which mostly include Las Vegas properties, have declined slightly while scores for noncasino hotels have gone up. Scores for upscale casinos also have fallen a little.
Anthony Marnell III
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Ask frequent traveler Tom Slater which U.S. hotel provides him with the best customer service and he praises an Embassy Suites in Ohio over the many Las Vegas resorts he has stayed in.
This, from a guy who comes to the hotel capital of the world at least 10 times a year and is assigned casino hosts who are paid specifically to make his stay in Southern Nevada more pleasant.
At the Ohio hotel, which boasts little more than standard amenities, rank-and-file employees greet him by name and smile as they open doors for him and engage in friendly conversation.
“What these people do, expecting no tips in return, is amazing,” the 41-year-old office supply executive from Cleveland says. “I’m not a rock star. But in Dublin, Ohio, I’m treated like one. They are trained to treat you well, even if you’re a nobody.”
Lately, Las Vegas seems less hospitable to Slater. Too many of its hotel and casino employees are simply going through the motions, he says.
That’s the kind of complaint that has become more common as recession-battered resorts have cut staffing. It’s also the kind of gripe that can be immediately posted on the Internet for the world to see. Some casino managers and service experts say recession-forced cutbacks are fueling a host of complaints posted in online chat rooms, social networking sites and news forums.
“It’s no secret that customer service has slipped in Las Vegas,” says Anthony Marnell III, owner of the M Resort.
The complaints range from the disconcerting — abrupt and unapologetic employees, disappointing food, long waits for hotel service, slow cocktail service — to the egregious — lukewarm water, previous guests’ clothes left in the rooms, stained sheets, soiled toilets, overflowing garbage cans, trash-lined hallways, bedbugs.
In its survey of visitors last year, the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority found that although most visitors were satisfied with their trips, 33 percent of dissatisfied visitors cited complaints about hotels, by far the biggest problem area and an increase from 26 percent in 2008.
Data from Market Metrix, which tracks customer satisfaction at many hotels and Las Vegas casinos on a more regular basis, show slightly declining scores for casinos over the past year relative to noncasino hotels, which have rising scores.
“There’s definitely a trend downward,” said Jonathan Barsky, vice president of research for Market Metrix. “It’s not big, but it’s definitely there.”
Many Las Vegas hotels simply don’t work hard enough at customer service, UNLV hotel management professor Jeff Voyles says.
“Vegas has gotten lost in that ‘build it and people will come’ mentality,” Voyles says. “We’ve never had to have world-class customer service or much of a service culture because people come here for a lot of reasons — like excitement — that may have little to do with customer service.”
Faced with a glut of rooms, Las Vegas properties must improve customer service to better compete for every possible guest, Voyles said.
Emphasis on training
Some hotels are turning to the Culinary Training Academy, a partnership between the Culinary Union and its membership hotels, to try to get the job done.
“There’s more of a premium being placed on customer service,” says Monica Ford, vice president of training and development at the academy. It has long taught the mechanics of hospitality jobs to legions of workers, including how to make beds, cook omelets and serve drinks. But lately, at the behest of local hotels, the academy has been putting a greater emphasis on basic customer service skills, such as addressing guests and being cordial. Spanish-speaking housekeepers, for example, are trained to greet customers in English.
Delivering top-notch service is that much tougher in Las Vegas, where giant casino hotels do more business and employ more people per property than their peers in virtually all other tourism destinations.
Southern Nevada has been hit harder by the recession than most cities, and on top of the drop in business, the customers who return are more frugal yet expect the same service levels they had grown accustomed to during the boom years.
After not filling vacant positions, laying off some workers and reducing hours for others, hotels are faced with the tough task of motivating their remaining staff, including people preoccupied with financial worries at home. Some workers also have been asked to take on more work after their companies downsized.
Doing more with less
Employees who are stretched thinner may not be doing anything more than is necessary if they feel their companies are not invested in their well-being, says Rick Garlick, senior director of strategic consulting for Maritz Research, a company that works with Las Vegas casinos and nongaming hotels.
Garlick waited 20 minutes this month to check into a three-star hotel on the Strip because the property had only two front-desk agents on duty.
It’s not just long waits at some front desks that have a lot of frequent visitors complaining. They also frequently note sparse cocktail service on the Strip, where casinos have cut costs by having fewer servers working the same, if not larger, areas of the casino floors.
Some hotels and casinos, including ones owned by Harrah’s Entertainment, have hired back employees after realizing they cut too deeply.
“The customer is always going to expect great service” even if the recession has made that a more difficult target, says Jan Jones, senior vice president of communications and government relations at Harrah’s. “Just because we are trying to manage costs doesn’t mean they want it done at their expense.”
Jan Jones
With no historical precedent on the Strip for the Great Recession, there was no blueprint for what staffing levels would be appropriate in a prolonged downturn, Jones notes. Falling customer service scores — data collected by random surveys of customers — revealed problem areas to managers who have responded by restoring some positions that had been cut, she says. Strip properties, she says, have become more adept at determining which cuts are appropriate given depressed business levels.
The Culinary Training Academy is seeing a small rebound in hiring this year, too. Although the number of students that academy officials expect to train this year — 2,000 — is still less than the 2,200 it trained in 2007, the number of students placed into hotel jobs has gone up each month so far this year.
Attitude matters
Voyles says some of Las Vegas’ customer service problems are the result of employees who dislike their hotel industry jobs or go to work upset and ill-equipped to hide their emotions. Some of these feelings are recession-related.
But he also says Las Vegas’ customer service shortcomings must be solved from the top down.
Hotels and casinos need to start with hiring the right people. Many hire front-line workers based on learned skills rather than the strength and appeal of their personalities, Voyles says.
Marnell says he hired workers mainly for their friendly personalities and eagerness to please. Positive feedback about service at the M Resort has so far helped save his property from financial ruin in the recession, he says.
Voyles says a happy workplace is another key to great customer service.
“To have good customer service you have to have an organizational culture that ... cares about its employees and wants them to be happy. If your employees are happy they’re going to support you.”
Bill Paulos, a former Strip executive who co-owns Cannery Casino Resorts, is among those using that approach.
“My main function now is to preach and be a cheerleader for employees. To go down and say, ‘You’re doing a great job,’ ” Paulos says. “That’s what’s lacking in this business ... How many managers thank their employees after a shift?”
Instead of bucking up employees who need encouragement, he says, some managers hurt morale by using fear and intimidation as a reaction to stress.
Workers “need to be told their jobs are fine and, ‘Here’s what you need to do to provide better service and earn more tips.’ They need to be told that every single day,” Paulos says.
Don’t forget to smile
At large hotels, basic skills such as smiling and making eye contact can fall by the wayside unless employers make a point of reminding workers to perform necessary gestures, managers say.
As part of a $165 million renovation and rebranding effort at the Tropicana, which recently emerged from bankruptcy, it is retraining its staff on customer service. Employees get one-page alerts about goings-on at the hotel and reminders such as to smile and approach customers who look lost, open the door for customers and stand out of their way if they are passing in a hallway.
Managers randomly “test” employees on these points by dropping in on their areas, watching them work and quizzing them on what they have learned.
“We’re in front of our employees every single day, drilling this into their heads,” says Bernie Vasquez, Tropicana’s new director of service culture.
Teaching five-star standards to a staff accustomed to two-star service has been a challenge, says Vasquez, a former training manager at MGM Grand and among four managers hired by the Tropicana last year to improve service at the budget property at a time when many other hotels have gutted training programs.
John Ely, senior vice president of marketing for hotel training company Signature Worldwide, thinks Tropicana’s work is paying off. Ely made a point to walk through several Las Vegas casinos during a recent trip. His tour included the Tropicana, which became a Signature client last year.
What most impressed him wasn’t the expensive artwork or deluxe surroundings of other resorts, but the Tropicana housekeeper who turned off a vacuum cleaner and walked over to Ely to ask him if he needed directions.
“That was a breakthrough moment,” he says.
Some executives say customer service is not declining at their hotels and casinos in Las Vegas. MGM Mirage CEO Jim Murren is one. He says hotel ratings and customer satisfaction scores are flat or slightly higher than a year ago at MGM Mirage properties.
Jim Murren
At the Bellagio, Michael Downs, vice president of hotel operations, says his managers are meeting more often to discuss how to improve customer service. The property dispatches managers to “go undercover” to check on employees throughout the resort. Managers meet weekly to discuss any breakdowns in service.
“I think we’re more focused on customer service and trying to be more creative to impress our guests,” Downs says. “Guests have a level of anticipation when they walk in here, so we’re focusing on what we can do to wow them.”
Acting on grievances
Unlike many hotels, front-line Bellagio employees are allowed to comp guests with a free room or other perks to quickly quell complaints. The resort also has built an executive lounge for customers staying in its high-end suites and has hired concierge employees who contact these customers before arrival to arrange restaurant reservations, show tickets or other activities.
As is the case at many other Las Vegas resorts, part of Bellagio’s marketing staff is devoted to investigating complaints and other comments cropping up on travel and social media websites, in addition to the comment cards and letters hotels traditionally receive. These sites, companies say, present a golden opportunity to turn neutral or disgruntled customers into loyal patrons by addressing legitimate concerns and extending freebies.
Ignoring comments can have the opposite effect, however.
At the M Resort, Marnell says management is on high alert for customer grievances.
“We look for repeat complaints and we go in and talk to the employees and figure out what the problem is and fix it,” Marnell says. “We don’t fight with customers, we listen to them. Ninety percent of them have valid complaints and issues. It’s hard to be perfect when you service 5,000 to 10,000 people a day.”
“There isn’t anyone in Las Vegas that isn’t focused on providing excellent customer service,” Jones says. “We realize that the future of Las Vegas, or much of it, is going to be based on the fact that we are the hospitality center of the world.”
Slater says it seems relatively simple to him. Las Vegas needs to make sure it has a lot more employees like the longtime bartender who greeted him with a smile and a hug — no tip required.
“The guy was just glad that people were out there, spending money.”
Sun reporter Patrick J. Coolican contributed to this report.
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can't remember last time i saw a shift supervisor come thru casino and interact with customers. everything has become a chore for everyone. while i'm a union supporter i believe it's union boss's job to make sure their membership realizes to be happy to have a job in todays economy. also management of hotels have to get their overpaid butts down on floor and interact. get your hosts if their following their clients players cards while customer is playing, go down to floor, find them, hand them a comp for something.
The Las Vegas Casino Industry is missing the point, one as obvious as the nose on your face.
what amazes me is they are NOW just realizing this. They are in the hospitality business for christ sakes. Customer service IS the reason your are in the hospitality business to begin with. It is the only reason WHY people come back a second time. Sure, they'll come look at the huge hotel, the action, but if you treat them like sh*t, they won't be back, regardless how beautiful your place is. Whats even more amazing and to point out that they all say "because our profits are down, we cut staff etc" is that CUSTOMER SERVICE DOES NOT COST A DIME !!! It's starts before you open the door to your new business, it starts with the right employee and it starts with training..all things you HAVE to do before you even open for business. The cost is there with your managers. Any manager who doesn't see "customer service" as being #1 important - fire their a** !!! Service doesnt cost a dime...it is treating people (customers) with respect and having a great place to work that the workers enjoy going to work each morning - all of this again doesn't cost a dime. And (no offense here when I say this) but the union employee mentality of "sorry, thats not my job" has to end..I have traveled to so many hotels and trade shows in the city and get that quite often when I ask for help or directions or whatever. That even comes from non-union employees as well, so get it together, train your people, motivate your people, work WITH your people, be on the floor - not behind the desk and it will turn around. Remember old Las Vegas - even in the movie Casino - they walked the floor each day, interacted with customers, etc...I train people for a living, and would be glad to help if this will make our city #1 !!!
I'm not saying this is the right attitude to have, but when morale is low, employees aren't as apt to make the experience better for the customers. It's a "what's in it for me?" thing. Instead of positive motivation to keep employees happy, it's fear of losing ones job. Happy staff = happy customers.
Visit the strip on occassion. We assume the casino's and restaurants inside them are doing very well, because it appears the hotel employees and waiters can afford to give bad service still, in this economy. HARD ROCK HOTEL spent millions to remodel and advertise their new rooms. Forked over over $300 for one night. Nice room, but no tissue in the bathroom. Had to wait over an hour once a call was placed to receive one roll. Quit tipping long ago, most of them don't deserve it. Good thing is I only had to drive 15 minutes to receive bad service, versus some people that travel 15 hours or more.
We always get gret service @ the Las Vegas Hilton. Look forward to going mid-June.
We went to see a show on the strip last night and decided to eat dinner beforehand. I called a restaurant on the strip to ask if we could put our name on the waiting list. I was told that we could make a reservation instead and was put on hold. After five minutes a different person picked the call up and told me there were no reservations until late at night, put I could put my name on the waiting list (isn't that what I asked for in the first place?). They then thanked me for calling, without getting my name, and started to hang up. I yelled into the phone to keep them on the line and got on the wait list. Definitely a disconnect on training there!!!!
I go to the Bellagio. I check in. Eat at Prime or Olives. Go to the pool, relax. Gamble. Sight see. Go to bed and repeat the process..
Who the hell needs "customer service"?
These pampered individuals who need someone to know their first name or ask how their day went (like some nobody really cares that you went to see Boulder Dam?)...
Gimme a break. Too many arrogant people out there who constantly need their ego stroked. I've never had an issue at the Bellagio or any other strip hotel. People look for things to complain about.
I sympathize with people who work retail or hospitality...the stories they have.
I have to agree with TomD, years ago I worked "customer service" for a summer and people can be ridiculous and obnoxious with their demands. You have a bunch of wannabe yahoo's who see the way a knucklehead like Paris Hilton is treated and then they want the same "spoil me" treatment and their arrogance and complaining about every little thing can be overhwhelming. I realized very soon that I didn't like being treated like a slave on a plantation and got out of this line of work quickly. This is the reason you see illegals doing this type of work more and more. Americans and their selfish, "it's all about me" arrogant behaviour are to blame for the illegal immigration problem in this country.
I have herd many complaints about the English problem. Some are hired to deliver items to rooms but try to get by with a translation dictionary. To make it harder is some words like Kleenex are brand names and wont be in a book. The story gos like this. The customer paying $300 and up a night calls to order tooth past. Later the porter brings a towel. They try to explain the porter what they want but go's nowhere. So by that point when the customers calls again for the tooh past they can be irate.
The problem is the Mexicans are in positions to hire, train, and manage in food, beverage, and housekeeping. They discriminate against English speaking US citizens and try to hire and help their own that can't speak English and shouldn't be working.
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If my memory is correct Vegas went through this in the 70s, poor customer service was chasing people away. My neighbor works at a strip hotel and management constantly moves him from his assigned work station to help out all over the hotel. He never knows where he will be sent, the only constatnt is the shortage of workers. The attitude of the food and beverage manager is "Shut Up", if you don't like it go home or quit! Managers are so concerned about keeping their jobs that they don't care one wit about the workers. He tells me the suits are alaways running around looking for people to cut and ways to save money. Customer service seems to be the last thing they worry about almost sounds like the DMV.
I live in Vegas and recently did a "staycation" at the Golden Nugget. I had to wait in line for over 45 minutes just to check in. I was appalled. There were only three people working the registration desk at 1:30 on a Saturday, and one of those people was dealing with check-outs. The wait made absolutely no sense and the customer service didn't improve from there - everything was slightly off, from start to finish. And oddly, no one seemed that concerned when I complained. While our room was comfortable and clean, and our time at the pool enjoyable, I wouldn't pay to stay there again.
Jan Jones is the problem not the solution. I visit Paulo's Rampart Casino almost exclusively and I must say I have not seen Bill Paulos at the Rampart Casino in years. When he first took ownership of The Rampart Casino he would visit with his customers and made them feel welcome,that does not happen now. At one time he had a good management staff but the same cannot be said now and the results are glaring with every visit to The Rampart Casino.
TomD & RHG-
Yep, it's true that customers can sometimes be overly demanding... Especially if they're at Paris or Luxor and expecting to be treated like some Wynn Tower Suites VIP, and don't tip a single buck! Sometimes, guests just need more realistic expectations of what they'll be receiving at a standard Vegas hotel for $50 per night.
mar-
That's also a good point. It's the classic case of "GIGO: garbage in, garbage out". If management treats employees like crap, how will the employees be feeling when customers start making demands on them? If corporate HQ are that concerned about customer service, they need to start by ensuring the workers feel like a valuable part of the team.
former & retired-
Double-check the story. It's the Culinary Union that started the training academy and is ensuring workers know good customer service! It's not like the union can be blamed for for company firings and benefit cuts, but it's at least good to see some casinos rehiring now.
And finally, going back to my original point... If guests really want top-notch treatment and extra perks, sometimes they just need to pay for it. And trust me, it's worth it! Early this month, I stayed at THEhotel at Mandalay Bay for Vegas Uncork'd weekend. The employees were nothing but gracious and helpful to me. The bellman even volunteered to fetch me ice and give me a tour of my suite after dropping off my luggage! Especially with room rates still so low here in Vegas, it's really worth it to splurge a little for a 4-5 star hotel with the kind of service that really makes one smile. :-)
I go. I tip 20%. Never had an issue with customer service. I know these people that check in and ask for extra towels. They don't even know what is in their room and they are already making "extra" towel requests.
The sense of entitlement of people is amazing. Go online and find out how much O tickets are!!...you don't need a customer service rep to quote you 15 different prices while you hold up the line..
You don't ask the lifeguard to keep an "extra" eye on junior...
You dont say to the pool attendant..."water"
"Who the hell needs "customer service"?"
Absolutely an asinine statement.
I have worked at 3 hotels in Las Vegas and 1 in Atlantic City. I have also worked in other industries such as banking, insurance and IT. My only comment is that the hotel/casino industry is the worst managed industry I have ever seen. The worst supervisor or manager in any other business would be the best in the casino business. Maybe senior managers just hire friends and relatives with no experience in business and no idea how to treat employees or customers or be an effective manager. I have an MBA...I am not just a casual observer. I worked at Wynn and a customer told me I was the first nice guy he had dealt with, and he had already dealt with about 8 people before he got to me. This was during the boom years. Smarten up people. We work in the hospitality industry. If you don't like it, don't do it.
logic...
I'll second that.
It has amazed me for YEARS;
How the hell can you stay in business when you treat your customers with a dash of disdain, a
hint of arrogance, and a heaping helping of who CARES???
It ain't about being "treated special"!
It's about extending COMMON COURTESY to your GUESTS, you silly goofballs!
I guess when occupancy is at or near 100% continuously despite your efforts to send customers elsewhere, you get complacent.
In answer to one of the above posts - We all need Customer Service.
But please, don't confuse or equate good customer service with Paris Hilton privileges. The service needn't be anything more than a smile and courteous attitude at check-in. It's a simple thing, really, but it can set the tone for the rest of the visit.
I don't honestly expect a hotel/casino employee to especially care about my trip to the desert, any more than I appreciate them being surly or dour-faced because they had to crawl around the living floor cleaning dog crap off the carpet before they could come to work this morning. Niceness and decency run in both directions, simultaneously.
And here's a novel thought: if you receive what you consider really good service, try complimenting the server or even better, pass along the positive comment to that individual's supervisor. It really is a two-way Strip.
A lack of long lines is not an outrageous expectation. We had nearly 100 visitors with us in Vegas last week. The only complaints we heard were from folks staying at Harrah's properties. Long lines for check in, long lines for buffet, long lines for players cards, long lines for casino cashier. It was funny, as they compared hotels it was unanimous that you don't stay at Harrah's properties unless you are a platinum or diamond member. Everybody else waits in long lines. Long lines as they watch other folks move ahead of them. Harrahs could not have made a worse impression on these folks for their next stays. At the upscale properties like the Palazzo folks were all treated the same and with no long lines. Yes, people do compare notes.
The video "nitro" rec'd is pretty entertaining, but most people with a luke warm concept of how to motivate an employee already knew the obvious before the video ended. The problem is the people who are informed aren't the ones in mgmt.
To the traveler who stayed at an Ohio hotel over one in Las Vegas who received better service I respond "DUH!". Of course, you're going to receive better service in a smaller hotel where there are fewer amenities and the price is lower. He is comparing apples to oranges. One has nothing to do with the other. It's like comparing a 16-room B&B to the 5000 room MGM Grand. The more variables you add in to the equation the higher the chance something is not going to add up. It's like comparing a Pinto to a Bentley. Something may go wrong in the Pinto, but that's expected since you didn't pay a lot for it. If it works for any length of time without hassle you're even happier. If something goes wrong in a Bentley it's the end of the world!!!! You forget to realize the Bentley is a lot more complicated than a Pinto, but it's still a car with four wheels none the less.
Tips,smile and a few nice words(thank you) always get me good service.It makes you and me a better person.
The first thing I always do is (tip,smile and thank you) to the person cleaning my room.I have a cleaner room and lots of towels.
When I am gambling and the girl ask if I need a drink,yes,(smile,thank you)I tip well because I want her to come back and check on me(and they do sometimes to much).
It works both way Good service with tips,Bad service no tips.
By logic_should_rule
May 30, 2010
10:32 a.m.
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"Who the hell needs "customer service"?"
Absolutely an asinine statement.
You can't even spell assinine correctly.
Customer service is not someone to be your slave. People like logic probably view customer service as someone who is their "fetching slave"
The word customer service has taken on a new meaning. They used to address problems...now they are expected to back scratch arrogant morons who think it means "take care of anything and everything I ask for"
Tourists will return this summer.
U.S. GDP grew in each of the last 3 quarters. Some declared the stimulus a failure, when they did not see instant results. The fact is jobs are always lagging the numbers recovery in each recession -- cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I work in middle management at a major hotel casino.
Schedules for hourly employees have been cut, and schedules for salaried management (like me) have been increased to try to make up for it. Unfortunately, that doesn't work. When management needs to do the work of hourly employees, they are unable to manage their employees, and ensure they are giving good service.
When management is treated poorly, they treat their employees poorly, who then in turn treat the guests poorly.
It is an endless cycle that results in terrible, apatheic customer service and low morale.
And the worst part is...I don't care. I stopped caring a long time ago.
It's a new world and people better damn well start lowering their expectations on what services they think they are entitled to. More work, less employees and people think their every whim and request will get taken care of. Sit at the pool. Get up to get your drink and relax with a book. Stop expecting hotel employees to be your fetcher
<To make it harder is some words like Kleenex are brand names...>
How much you want to bet Kleenex is sold in Mexico. Under the "Kleenex" name plastered on the box just like in the U.S.
< I visit Paulo's Rampart Casino almost exclusively and I must say I have not seen Bill Paulos at the Rampart Casino in years >
Is he still associated with the Rampart? I worked with the Powers That Be at Rampart several years ago on a deal that the attorney I was working for was doing and his name never came up.
I don't think there is a problem with customer service in most cases. When people travel to places other than Las Vegas or any other Gambling place They are spending money on things and not losing it at at a Blackjack table. There attitude is much different so there judgement is altered in a way that makes it difficult to overcome. A majority feel they should be comped everything because they lost $100 and when they are told they need more play, they complain. It seems the visitors to Las Vegas now have the attitude of spend less get more for free because the casino's are hurting financially. This is why the numbers are down . Las Vegas has the best hospitality of any other resort in the world, Period!!!! It sickens me to read comments that say we don't care anymore. Try being nice to the employees and you will get the same in return.
I meet tons of nice service people in Vegas. Actually, in all my years I have not encountered one rude person that I can recall. Not even in the Harrahs properties where I just complained about service. My issue is with staffing and lines. That is a subset of customer service. No matter how friendly the check-in guy/gal is the service is bad when you have to wait half an hour to check in or cash in your chips. I don't take it out on the person who finally waits on me but I suspect that some people are frustrated by the time they actually get to the ends of those lines and may have lost their smiles waiting in line.
Bad customer service in Las Vegas is prevalent for two reasons: the hotels became overgrown/impersonal and the management/employees have gotten away with it for years now while still making a living.
I'd rather stay at the M Resort. There I'm treated with kindness and respect.. that's all I expect. I've been comped at the best hotels on the strip but would rather pay to stay at the 400 room M Resort than a 4000 room hotel any day.
I've stayed at the M three times since it opened and have had nothing but wonderful experiences. Their security guard (Bob) spent three days with me on the phone last spring trying to return a jacket I had left in the room. Luckily I was still in town to pick it up, but I was tickled to know that they would have sent it to my home address at their expense if I had already returned home.
That's the kind of basic customer service you just don't get on the strip anymore, and why casino/hotels on the strip aren't maximizing their profits. Did I ever get my cell phone and charger back from MGM two years ago for example? No, but I was due for a new one thank goodness.
@atdleft
My comment was pointed at everyone from union to non-union personnel and I have worked both ways..My point is - why are they JUST NOW setting up a training class? Working in both the hospityality industry and the tradeshow industry (as a client) I can tell you they both go hand in hand..can't travel to a trade show without a hotel room and at times you do need help at the tradeshow..it has gotten where the American People (both union and non union, have the attitude of "not my problem or not my job".
As far as the language barrier goes - totally agree there..I fly 100k a year and everytime I need to get in touch with United, I wind up in the Philipines or India and all they can do is answer from a book in front of them from the "FAQ" paragraph and thats if you can get by the language issue..and same at a hotel - who interviews these people?? If they can't speak english, how did they read the ad for the job? OOPPSS, don't go there..But this drifts off to the immigration issue which this blog is not about.
I am just saying again, that it is FREE - doesn't take away from the profits - to train people.
And as for the STUPID comment about "who needs customer service" - remember that the next time you take your car in for service...
I worked for Harrahs in the early 2000's, I wouldn't recommend any of their properties to anyone because of the way the front-of-house employees are so micromanaged.
Whenever an employee is treated like garbage by those in supervisory and/or management, it has a trickle-down effect onto the patrons whether one realizes or not. I remember when Harrahs imposed a customer service training program, which had a cynical approach to it which takes any sort of liability off of management and supervisors, and in the end, Harrahs sucked even worse and I am glad I left when I did.
Re: Michael1:"I don't care. I stopped caring a long time ago"
Of course, I don't where you work or how otherwise idiotic your managers are, but this looks like a great time for you to vacate your job. Move on so someone that appreciates a paycheck and people can replace you.
If you doing subordinate's work, this is an excellent way to empathize with them. Treat them like humans. If you support them, they may try to make your job easier.
Obviously, there is one person on this blog - with the comments he makes - shows he must stay at travel lodge when he travels...either that or he does alot of camping...
Good customer service = Being able to SPEAK ENGLISH !!
Harrahs is the reason service is bad in Vegas- Stop all the other comments and believe until this company is no longer around Vegas will continue to go down!!
Gordon
They don't speak "no englay" in Zimbabwe, Pakistan or India. The jobs are so lousy paid that they don't get English speaking Americans do to it. They need the "no englay" crowd to do the dirty job with bottom feeder conditions. This way the fat cats can collect the fat bonusses by the end of the year. Otherwise it wouldn't be possible.
Americans with good education and "I speak englay" do not get the job as management want the lowest possible payroll. Do you get the message?
I am very well trained and could be one of the top notch roulette dealers Vegas has seen but I don't speak no "englay" myself well enough , but that's not the point. The problem is that I have no Green Card but even if I had I wouldn't want to come and work in Vegas because the casinos don't pay nutting. It's a joke to work there and the people you get have no options and work 2 jobs at the same time to make a living. It's a grind without future, just to make the fat cats rich. I don't see the point. And service quality lacks, which is absolutely correct.
Greetings from Switzerland
Not only is the customer service at the b0tt0m of the barrel - THE PRICES HAVE GONE TO NEAR RIDICULOUS.
Recently, some out of town friends decided to try out City Center.
JUST THIS ONCE.
Tiny Room.
Astronomical prices for poorly cooked and/or blase food.
And the service, uhhhhhhhh, each step was measured and timed, not by managers but by the service-er. Each thing done was at walk ('anti-warp') speed
- just fast enough to keep the worker just-barely out of the 'complaint zone'.
With no manager, NOWHERE, in sight.
Everything was perfunctorily and there was a SEVERE cognizance of WHO PAYS THE BILLS, i.e. The CUSTOMERS.
'Just going through the motions' was an understatement par excellance.
But there was one thing that there was PLENTY of in a few hotels we visited besides City Center... vegas.com sponsored booklets that hawked 'great times' and 'slick' casino-joint ads.
And we all know who owns vegas.com......
I'm not the only one who has notice that customer service is lacking in the hotels in Las Vegas. I do find some employees that go out of their way to ensure that your stay or visit is pleasant, but that is far and few between. It's not about tipping, doing more with less, or the customer itself. Do you enjoy and like what your doing? If not, find a new occupation. As an employee you have to be dedicated to the company and what you are doing, that is lacking in many of the hotels in Las Vegas. Pay should never be a determining factor on how you do your job, if it is get out, your ruining it for all the good workers and giving the company a bad name. I have always found if you do your job and give exception customer service, your pay will go up and you'll probably get a promotion. I like it when employees remember your name and give that extra service, I will usually tip more knowing that maybe other don't, but I will definitely come back, thats big.
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i agree 100% that our customer service is not where it needs to be. I just got back from cancun of all places and people whos first language wasnt even english waited on me hand and foot. Going to get heat for this, but i think our culinary unions have some responsibility here. Bartenders etc sit there and watch sports center on the TV while we wait for $8 coronas. A lot of time management is handcuffed and cannot "coach" these people. My 2 cents.
I wonder why people people chime in from the other side of the world to try and tell us what it's like to live and work here. Hello, unemployment is over 14%. Higher if you count people no longer eligible. Some employers are getting 100's of applications for a single job. Many employers get a few cold calls every day with people looking for work. There is no lack of qualified, legal, and good English speaking workers. If that's not enough I would bet many would travel across the states for a full time job with culinary wages and benefits.
To say the problem is the hotels don't pay enough for legal, experienced, clean English speaking workers is simply untrue. It is a sad stereotype to say that many of the hotel workers are unskilled, minimum wage workers.
Greetings from Vegas.
For all who work here in Las Vegas, who are employed in the Tourism, Hospitality & service industries, listen up. We are NOT servants, but we do serve. In these positions, and with the current economic mess, we should be thankful for the fact we are working, 1st, and 2nd because of that, every day should go to work with a positive attitude. This hopefully will translate to doing the best job possible, for our Guests. After all, the visitors are our bread & butter. If they don't come, our employers have no reason to keep us. To me, good, no great, customer service is job security. Keep them happy & coming back. Anyone who doesn't understand that should find other types of work.
There's an older guy working the taxi stand at the Tropicana who is amazingly helpful and knowledgeable. I suspect he's been doing his job long enough to remember why guests are there, but regardless, everyone in the public service industry could learn something from him. I've only stayed at the Trop once, but I return there every single visit solely because this guy is what Vegas should be about. Hope he survived the layoffs, because he is what Vegas should be from a hospitality standpoint.
@ mrkoolkat06
WELL SAID - END OF STORY !!
This is consistent with a nationwide problem in the United States that has been going on for the last 20-30 years. Corporate America claims that they are all about customer service, but when the economy or the company has a downturn, what's the first thing to go - the employees. Employee cutbacks mean less customer service. It sets up a vicious cycle. In a country whose economy has come to be dominated by a service industry, this is the worst thing they can do.
Since my business pretty much means I am in Vegas twice a month, I do have to agree with this article. Hotels, even in Hawaii where I live, need to understand that customer service can either make or break a property.
@BorisR: Can you enlighten us to how the hotels/casinos are in Switz? For some reason, I think you are in Vegas.
Michael1
"I work in middle management at a major hotel casino.
Schedules for hourly employees have been cut, and schedules for salaried management (like me) have been increased to try to make up for it. Unfortunately, that doesn't work. When management needs to do the work of hourly employees, they are unable to manage their employees, and ensure they are giving good service."
Bull$hit, you make more money than these hourly employees and all you have to do is help in once in a while. It is called TEAMWORK. Now, if you do not want to help out these hourly employees all you have to do is tell your immediate supervisor and he'll just to have replace you.
I used to be a salaried employee and has done exactly what I posted above. It is about loving your work and as far as the employers and big bosses out there, try to show care to all the people who truly are helping your company grow and not treat them like thrash.
By logic_should_rule
May 30, 2010
10:32 a.m.
"Who the hell needs "customer service"?"
Absolutely an asinine statement.
You can't even spell assinine correctly
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TomD1228 ---Actually it's as laughable
as your previous comments because it's spelled correctly.
Btw,Staff: This is NOT flaming.........
ROFL ROFL
Whoever posted above about how customer service is no longer being dished out properly,because the casino owner is no longer walking through and conversing with his guests
You people are the problem,if you think that the owner really gives a rats a#$ about you,and secondly if you only feel status if the owner pays attention too you
This town attracts the BIGGEST bunch of posers I have ever seen.
Do you really think that the guests are sitting there,and when they see the host going around to the tables,and speaking with the guests,that when he/she comes to you,everyone stops in the casino,and thinks " wow,that person must be a bigshot because the owner is speaking with him,ALONG with the other 1,000 people
Get over yourself,and im sure youre the type that hears of a celeb in town,and will seek out that celeb,just to tell youre wannabee friends you saw Jim Nabors at the Trop!1
Bunch of Moronic Status hungry POSERS
peace out
Look, I can't think of a place on the strip where I would say service is great right now. Most people coming to Vegas know that there have been tons of layoffs. They know it will take longer for a drink or for a waiter to come back and check on them. But that doesn't excuse not fully staffing the registration counter when you know most of your weekend guests are arriving or allowing servers to treat customers like bringing them their food or drinks is a complete hassle. Fortunately, I haven't had that issue offstrip or I would have written of Vegas completely as a vacation destination altogether.
Due to airfares rising with no end in sight, I have spent more time doing "nearcations" to casinos in driving distance in the Midwest. The service at these places is amazing compared to the strip. I used to come to Vegas as often as three times a year. If you guys want me back that often, you need to wake up and realize that there are alternatives and Vegas is losing ground to them.
Tony Marnell is a class act; hopefully his son follows in his dads footsteps. If he does the M-Resort will be very successful. If not, he'll become just like the other casino owners who kids are an embarrassment disgrace them on a daily basis.
I just got back from Jamaica where I thought the service was terrible. The people didn't care about anything...any problems I had where answered with "no worries" when I obviously had some or I wouldn't be bringint it up! In the future I will be chosing Mexico over the Carribean as every time I am there, I feel like a valued customer, whose business is truly appreciated.
While individually we do not have a huge voice, we can and should exercise our right to spend where we feel valued.
I went to the Encore last night and had GREAT service from every employee I met. Mandarin Oriental is probably tops now in town, with the Tropicana being at the bottom!
There is a significant difference between being catered to like a celebrity and receiving reasonable service as a paying customer. Because I am paying a cheaper rate than last year or the year before, I am supposed to be satisfied with being treated like an intruder instead of a guest? I do not expect someone to be waiting on me hand and foot, but I do expect a reasonable check-in/out time, clean rooms, and a smile and a thank you when appropriate.
Keep in mind that many of the people visiting also have their own financial strains to deal with. I am lucky in that my husband still has a decent job, but I was recently let go after 25 years at one company. Believe me, that left me no happy camper! But I nevertheless would not go around treating people poorly. In most industries I encounter these days, employees fall all over themselves thanking me for being a customer.
I treat everyone with respect, and I say this with that in mind. Casino employees, you are in fact lucky to have a job when so many people don't. There are probably 100 people or more in line to take your job if you don't want it. Perhaps you should keep that in mind when you work. This does not mean you should be treated with anything but respect, but if you are getting paid to do a job, it is your responsibility to do it right, which includes putting on a good face and treating customers right.
Many years ago I worked in the casino world... The first thing that was taught to me by an oldtimer in the industry was service.. He taught me no matter what you should have,, customer service was first and foremost... I run my biz by that same theory today and believe it or not,, it does work..Biz is biz,, but not if you have no customer service...
Lack of customer service is not just a problem in Las Vegas. It is EVERYWHERE - from your local grocery store to Home Depot, Walmart and many places in between. Two examples: my sister and I went to Walmart's garden center on Saturday to get some relatively heavy items thaqt would be hard for us to handle. There was no one on the floor who could help us or the other customers but the kid behind the register. He was sitting ON the counter, holding his head in his hands not paying one bit of attention to anyone! Finally, we went up to this kid (maybe about 18-19 years old) and asked if he could help us. He gave us a nasty look (as in "hey, I'm hungover") and begrudgingly got off his ass to help us. Then just today at the deli counter at the grocery store, the gal behind the counter had the gall to say to me "I hope you're not getting a lot because my arms are killing me". I just looked at her but decided to keep quiet.
And what pisses me off - these people HAVE JOBS!!!! I want to so badly say to them "If you don't want your job, I'll take it or one of the other 100 more people waiting in line for it".
I understand things happen - you have a bad day, you don't feel well, but you leave it at home. You don't take it to work with you. They ought to be thankful they HAVE jobs and shouldn't take those jobs for granted.
Harrah's is the worst company to work for on the strip! They have cut staff so far it is virtually impossible to give the type of service Caesars Palace customers were use to. The rooms ar not clean, the hotel stinks and they cover it up by pumping a toxic chemical to smell good thru the hotel. The food sucks! The management is arrogant! The corporate heads are egotistical, rich a holes that take all the profit from out state! There one supervisor for 8 or 9 games, how do you service a customer? There is never enought high limit blackjack games open so the customers go to the Wynn or Bellagio. Go ahead and blame it on the staff but the real blame is the GREEDY CORPORATIONS THAT HAS TAKEN OVER VEGAS AND THE REST OF AMERICA. LOOK AT BP OIL! Get a grip America and start standing up for rights! Oh, and why or why is it always the hard working family people that work for minimum wage that belongs to a union at fault instead of the CEO that is taking home millions! You people make me sick!
Jan Jones, you should be ashamed of yourself! You were the mayor, now you are letting the casinos steal the dealers tips! You-that has had a siver spoon in your mouth from the day you born. Shame on you!!!!
I just took a look at Trip Advisor.
In this article, MGM Grand and Harrahs boasts how they are really in tune with customers that provide feedback on sites like Trip Advisor.
NO MGM and Harrahs Hotels have a single comment to any customer comment on this site. They say that they really care, but yet when you look at the rankings of Harrahs hotels against all other Vegas hotels - the Harrahs hotels are ranked only as high as 30. So all of this talk about how they are concerned about customer service really is a bunch of bull.
Harrahs has slashed staff, made middle managers take more shifts, since they are salary and they can lower labor costs. Yet on the most respected website for customer travel rankings -Harrahs is behind 50 other hotels for the bulk of their properties. That is the truth - not what Jan Jones is talking about.
Station Casinos should look in the mirror about why their properties have under performed. It is called customer service. They could care less. They dont wish to provide betting lines that other hotels provide, they dont wish to thank any customer for coming to their business. Sorry - but I have other places to go that are willing to say thank you for doing business with me.
Las Vegas Strip hotels lost that and now are paying the price. From the comments of Jan Jones, they still dont get it and can look forward to more suffering due to their ability to take a real hard look at how they treat customers.
Has Jan Jones ever been to a Harrah's property or is she paid just to talk like she knows what she is talking about???
The company is bankrupt, has more debt than anyone else and is buying more debt while cutting every corner they can including safety and has some of the worst customer service in the country.
Vegas now has to seriously compete with other cities for tourists. People like Jan Jones still believe that there is an endless supply of tourists we can screw over...
Customer service starts at the top. Most managers, including the hotel manager, believe customer service is the employees responsibility. When summoned, the manager often has the cocky attitude, then blames the employee. I could write a book on what these morons do not know about customer service...& it starts at the top.
We got the best service at MGM Grand. No matter what the economy is like, we will always return to the hotel that treated us well. Now if they'd just let us win a little more : )
I'm a server at a lower-end strip property. I'm profoundly grateful that I still have a job with culinary union benefits. Please permit me to address a couple of the many comments above:
At my property, line managers are being worked to death because they're salaried, and they spend entirely too much time doing hourly grunt work so that overall labor cost is reduced. As a result, they've no time or energy left to be managers which leads to lousy morale, and often leaderless, disorganized chaos for everyone.
Senior executives are nowhere to be seen. In fact, I work full-time day shift and I've NEVER met the F&B director, and he's (supposedly) been in the job over a year. How can I be expected to be enthusiastic when the "suits" are wearing big signs on their foreheads that say "Screw you, we don't give a sh*t!" HEY! I'm the one who's providing the (hopefully) good customer service and senior management couldn't care whether I lived or died!
Here's a management school rule that explains the deterioration in service: 20/20/60. (Yes, I've a hotel degree from UNLV). Twent percent of your employees will always be good, twenty percent will always be bad, and sixty percent will "go with the flow". In other words, when line managers haven't the time or energy to be managers, and senior executives couldn't care less, eighty percent of employees will wind up being rotten ones! And the other 20%? They'll leave if there's somewhere else to go to or, at the very least, vent their spleens on the LVSUN website.
Here's another management school rule of thumb: Organizations are like fish; They rot from the head first.
For all of you who've had a bad guest experience here in Vegas, chances are the ones who are truly to blame are sitting in their offices, camping out for hours at lunch, or at the links working on their putting.
To burnmandturnem,
Thank you for your perspective. I am the middle level manager at a major hotel casino. I am the guy you're talking about who is working additional hours in an hourly capacity to save on labor. And I'm also the guy with no time or energy left to be a manager.
Some responses on here are that I should leave and let someone who wants the job have it. However, anyone who is in the situation I am in will react the same way eventually. Meanwhile, I pay the bills while searching for a better job.
By the way, I do not work at the same property as burnemandturnem, but most of the properties are the same.
Las Vegas used to be know for customer service. A few weeks ago 8 friends stayed at a strip hotel. The first morning they went to breakfast and were told that they would be charged 18 per cent for a large party, no problem they usually tipped 20 per cent. But then they were told there were no table for 8. No problem, wasn't that important to be seated together, but they would still be charged 18 per cent as they came in together. Now they thought that was to stupid. They will not be staying at the hotel next time.
I'd say Murren is indicative of the problem: "hotel ratings and customer satisfaction scores are flat or SLIGHTLY higher than a year ago." In a year's time, with a $9 billion nut, he's o.k. with flat or slightly.
Sorry 445 but unless you work for one of the "mega-corporations of todays gaming, then you should not judge. "Do your job and provide exceptional service" and you will be rewarded! What a joke! Harrah's has fired, terminated, requested to resign some of the top gaming management in this industry and replaced them with corporate clones that don't know a damn thing about the business. They have taken the front line staff that was never more loyal to a hotel icon like Caesars Palace and made it to where everyone dreads coming to work. Even at that, we come in and give our customers the best we can be. We have a great, severely under appreciated staff. We have even been told by the VP of Human Resource that they could teach a monkey to deal! Is this what they think of us? Grateful for jobs yes, but we have earned those jobs and worked for much better companies than Harrah's that has owned the property in the past.We make it such a lucrative property, everyone wants to buy us. Maybe our mistake. Things have gotten so much worse. Now, let us address their player reward system. The other night a dice palyer playing over 6k a roll complained about the time they gave him on his last visit. For dice, they may cut an hour to a quarter of an hour play because it takes longer for a roll than say blackjack hands. The player plays on a private game and the dice is constantly moving. So the manager gives him his real time one hour play for one hour on the game but cuts his average bet to 2500 instead of 6k that he was betting. This is how they treat their customers! This all comes from upstairs but the front line takes the heat for all. Go after the CEO's,the Gary Loveman, the Tom Jenkin the Jan Jones, the CFO's and their cronies. The staff is doing the best they can. If you should get a service provider that is not so friendly, how many times do you think they have been called a derogatory name, had cigar smoke blown in their face on purpose, had some jerk of a namager on their a??. Yes, we chose the profession and most of us really like what we do but the times have changed and not only do the guests need to be provided the services they pay for, the staff needs to be treated with respect and enough of us to service our wonderful customers that come to Las Vegas. Come on Las Vegas, how long are you going to let Harrah's bring us down? I personally would never recommend for my family or friends to stay at a Harrah's property! They are not clean and I would be afraid they would get food poisoning . Most of the staff bring their own lunch now instead of eating the crap in the helps hall!It really breaks my heart!!! One more thing, they tried to get the staff to sign a "Social Networking Policy" so they could fire us for posting on these boards - now they want my First Amendment rights. Go to He##-Harrah's! I am sure most of you will get there eventually for your greed here on earth.
How about Las Vegas's inability to ever split a check? If I so much as talk to somebody at the bar they want to put us on the same check...personally I think that really kills their tips so i have no idea why they do this. If I was a server and had two $11.50 bills I would be sure to split them in hopes of getting 15 on each...Instead they would rather put two people on the same bill that aren't even together and then get pissy when they get 4 dollars on a 23 dollar bill!
I have never been anywhere where they hate splitting bills like they do here!