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Published Friday, June 18, 2010 | 1:21 p.m.
Updated Friday, June 18, 2010 | 3:33 p.m.
Chad Christensen speaks during a debate among the Republican U.S. Senate candidates on "Face to Face with Jon Ralston" at the KVBC studios in Las Vegas Tuesday, May 18, 2010.
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CARSON CITY – A business group, a Las Vegas gun activist, the NAACP and the ACLU of Nevada have filed suits to block a state assemblyman's initiative petition that mimics the controversial anti-immigration law in Arizona.
They are asking Carson City District Judge James Wilson to declare the Nevada Immigration Verification petition invalid and to prevent it from being presented to the 2011 Legislature.
A group called “The Nevada Open for Business Coalition” brought the first suit asking for declaratory and injunctive relief.
It was followed by legal action from the ACLU of Nevada and on behalf of the NAACP of Nevada and Robert Johnson, president of Gun Owners of Nevada. That group is called “What Happens in Arizona Stops in Arizona.”
The suit by the business coalition says the petition is an “election year mashup of an Arizona anti-immigration measure that has cost that state $100 million in lost revenue." It will cost that state even more in boycotts, canceled meetings and conventions, the suit says, adding that it could happen to Nevada if the petition were to become law.
Assemblyman Chad Christensen, who was unsuccessful in his run for the Republican U.S. Senate nomination, is leading the petition drive and couldn't be reached for comment.
Both suits say the anti-immigration petition is invalid because it contains several subjects, ranging from voting laws to illegal immigration arrests to setting up task forces. The business coalition says Christiansen and his backers “rolled up everything they could think of into an anti-immigration fantasy they could muster and stuffed it into this measure.”
The suit says the petition violates the single subject rule and the subjects in the petition are not directly tied to the enforcement of immigration laws.
Johnson, the gun activist, wrote in a statement, "We don’t want to ruin Nevada’s reputation as a welcoming tourist destination by passing an extreme law that would essentially turn Nevada into a police state and mandate racial profiling. And worse still, the proposed initiative is so long, complicated and confusing, it fails to inform signers and voters of what it really involves – the erosion of our freedoms from many fronts."
Maggie McLetchie, a lawyer for the ACLU, said adoption of the initiative “would result in state-sanctioned discrimination and racial profiling.” And the petition is confusing, she said in filing the suit.
The business coalition suit was filed by Las Vegas attorney Edward Garcia.
Members of the business coalition include Democratic Assemblymen Moises Denis and Ruben Kihuen, both of Las Vegas, and Latin Chamber of Commerce president and CEO Otto Merida, as well as Larry Mason.
Christensen has until Nov. 9 to gather 97,002 signatures of registered voters. If he is successful, the issue would go before the 2011 Legislature, which would have 40 days to act. If it rejects the 32-page petition or doesn’t act on it, the issue would go on the 2012 ballot for voters to decide.
The Legislature could also present an alternative measure to go on the ballot.
Christensen must gather 24,944 signatures in congressional District 1 in Clark County; 34,479 in District 2 in Northern Nevada and 37,561 signatures in District 3 in Clark County.
Frank Hawkins Jr., president of the NAACP in Las Vegas, said “African-Americans know all too well the insidious effects of racial profiling and voter disfranchisement. Laws that encourage discrimination have no place on the ballot, in Arizona, Nevada or anywhere.”
The ACLU suit says the initiative petition is flawed because it requires increased spending by local law enforcement without providing the revenue to cover these expenses. It says the petition “is deceptive and would intentionally confuse voters and therefore should not be circulated for signatures.”
The proposed law would allow a peace officer or officer of the Drug Enforcement Administration designated by the U.S. Attorney General to make an arrest without a warrant when a person is believed to be in the country illegally.
The petition says a state or local law enforcement official may determine the immigration status if he or she has “reasonable suspicion” the person is in the country illegally.
An individual who is arrested is not eligible for suspension of a sentence, probation, pardon or commutation of the sentence and is required to pay his or her jail costs, the petition states.
Anyone who hires an illegal immigrant now can be charged with a misdemeanor, with a fine of at least $1,000 for illegally moving, concealing or harboring illegal immigrants. The person's vehicle can also be impounded. The petition would make it a felony to conceal or move 10 or more illegal immigrants.
We have too much too lose by not enforcing immigration law, We cannot become the United States of anyone who can sneak into America!
I thought the several subject issue would be brought up. Look at my past posts, when this was first proposed. You would think you would have people know what their doing.
The "personhood" thing was just thrown out for the same reason. They should have just made it a misdemeanor to be in the country illegally in the state of Nevada.
This law MUST and WILL be passed. We cannot afford not to do it. It is high time each and every state pass similiar laws. The Fed govt will not do anything so each state must come on board. ILLEGAL means just that ILLEGAL!!!
First let me know where I can sign this petition - I support LEGAL immigration NOT illegal immigration. Secondly I would like a list of business in this coalition for maybe we should ALL stop giving them any business.
Who are the members of this business group? If they want illegals instead of American workers, they need to be boycotted and fined.
It is no secret that the person behind this racist initiative is no other than Kris Kobach, who is pushing for similar proposal across the U.S. He has failed as a politician and attorney, and now he is trying to establish himself as the leading voice of America's hate community (e.g., minuteman, FAIR, KKK). Mr. Christensen is just carrying the bucket for Kobach.
www.chad2010.com has info about the petition.
AZ looses 100 million from boycotts but gains 5x that in social expenses it does not have to pay for. Win Win situation. The Nevada Open for Business Coalition should be thrilled with the prospects of less taxes to pay for the illegals, more American workers on the job and less crime.
Sun,
Please research and list all businesses in support of this lawsuit that promotes and encourages criminal activity. A boycott is needed.
They are not illegal immigrants they are illegal invaders.
Business before are nations sovereignty' NOTHING BUT BULLS#IT.
"It was filed by Las Vegas attorney Edward Garcia."
The immigration attorney as seen on every buss stop. He wants a constant supply of illegals to become future clients.
Sign me up to stop the illegal invaders.
Don't blame the illegals, blame the businesses that want that cheap labor!
LasVegas2009,
I'm in total agreement with shipping out the illegal spawn with their criminal parents. Why should Americans continue to see their country suffer because mamasita wants to crap out a kid every 9 months.
"Anchor Chains For Anchor Babies"
I am a American Vet and I feel like a slave to my country.
I pay taxes, insurance (health,home and car) and most illegals do not,Why they know how to play the system.I am so mad Washington does nothing about illegals,or closing our boarder.All Washington cares about is votes not the people.
America is bankrupt and illegals are a burden on
our economy(taxes).
We the people must take back our country before
it is to late.
I am a Nevada resident visiting Oslo Norway. yesterday, I jay walked across a street with train tracks and was stopped by an on foot police officer. He spoke to me in Norweigan, when I said I only spoke English, the first thing out of his mouth was, can I see your passport? This is how the world works. Its just the left liberals tear down the border idiots that is making this an issue. Stand up or they will tear this country down...and BTW...is Obama turning into a dictator or what. You should hear the English media over here...they are becoming very much anti Obama
hey, naacp...how's the crime in chicago?
NoVaseline wrote:
"You should hear the English media over here...they are becoming very much anti Obama"
They're a step or two behind thinking Americans.
Now there are two groups that I really respect. haahahahahahahah
I think most Nevadans would support a law similar to Arizona. Too bad we don't live in a democracy.
LVSun; Would you please find out the makeup of "The Nevada Open for Business Coalition"? Inquiring minds need to know, and nothing comes up when I Google.
I would rather see a law that denied illegals the use of the majority of these services that everyone complains they pay for, instead of one that will hurt our tourism industry and encourage racial profiling. There are better solutions out there.
not that the illegals pay for, but that we pay for
jerryWayne wrote:
"not that the illegals pay for, but that we pay for"
Illegals shouldn't be paying for anything...THEY SHOULD'NT BE HERE!
Please look up the word "illegal" before trying to make a mole hill out of a mountain.
NAACP is shooting itself in the foot.
Who do you think suffers most in unemployment due to illegals. Thats right the African Americans...
Morons........
We are living behind enemy lines. We are infected with jackbooted Mexicans that push us around.
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I have no idea why the NAACP is for illegal immigration.
With black underemployment nearing 25% why would they want more illegals to take jobs away?
Illegals make it harder for young black males entering the job market, especially in construction trades.
Illegals suppress the hourly wage rates for blacks too.
I just don't get it.
Missouri has a stricter law than Arizona and no one has said a word about them! I know the Arizona law is great and needs to be enforced! Think of all the money it would save. Bottom line is that it is almost word for word of the fed law and no one has the brass set to enforce it,
I am one American tired of paying for these freeloaders lets face it they get free education, medical etc just to name a few.
I dare anyone to try and cross illegally into Mexico or Canada and see if the welcome mat is out. No you would be arrested, jailed and deported!!
Our elected officials are stupid and we are stupider for electing these do nothing bums! Time we DEMANDED change and stop letting this illegal trash rule our country!!!
There are plenty of National Guard Military Police units in the U.S. Let's use protecting the border as their 1 weekend a month, 2 weeks a year training. They can rotate so they cover the full 24/7 52 weeks. They learn / practice hands on how to pursue, arrest, and assist local and federal law enforcement during their deployments on the north and south borders of the U.S. Get the National Guard out of Iraq and Afghanistan and send them home to protect our "NATIONAL" borders. If they protected New Orleans they sure as hell can protect the borders.
Why does the staff remove comments? That's censorship.It seems most posters are adults,so who are you to decide what offends?
Billykydd, to see the guidelines for posting, go to the top of the thread and click on the link that says "Full comments policy." That should answer most of your questions.
Since when does the American Civil Liberties Union speak for non-Americans??
When is it legal to provide medical care, housing, and everything else to illegals?
If they are legal, then hire them.
Take away the Bird-feeder and they will go home.
What is the biggest problem of illegals? Them using taxpayer money? If so, then why not look at the government system that supplies that money. If illegals are able to obtain SS or some other tax money, why not strip such things away from the government?
I would say the problem is not the illegals, but the government which takes from your wallet and hands out it to others, including illegals. Close up your wallet to the government and you have no problem with the illegals.
Remember: the biggest cost to business is it's workforce. If you, via taxes etc. cost more than an illegal it should be quite clear what causes businesses to choose illegals over you.
I feel the same way, if the parents are not American Citizens then the children that are born here to them should not be American citizens either. Being in this country illegally is a crime, so why do we reward them with free health care, schooling etc.? my daughter pays 500. dollars a month for health care, and a non American gets it for free?. She went to the emergency room , they sent her a bill for 7000. dollars, thank god she has health insurance. I'm sure they would have put her on a payment plan being she's American.
All illegals need to leave. They are nothing but a blight on our society. I don't care if they came from Mexico or Canada or even Europe. They shouldn't be allowed to stay here when it is so obvious who most of them are. The INS needs to get off their lazy butts and start deporting illegals!
This Nevada law needs to be passed and quickly. There are always a group of them near my home in the morning and most either don't speak English or they speak completely broken English. I called the cops on them for loitering.
I hope we get an anti-illegal immigration bill. It would be nice to walk down the strip without getting bombarded by hooker cards
Are you sure that it's not the Mexican Civil Liberties Union they care more about Mexicans then they do Americans.
Thank Harry Reid, he's the one using illegal aliens as a political ploy, amnesty to the federal law breakers. He has made it possible for illegals to obtain unemployment checks and at this moment Nevadas 2nd stage of unemployment money is dry and a bill is being voted on to get more money in that account. If we can rid our state of 200,000 of the illegal aliens we could possibly put 200,000 Nevadan citizens back to work.
They take american jobs in the construction industry and the hotel/casino resort industry, thousands of them. They take jobs away from our teen agers at fast food restaurants, you name it they take it.
The 14th amendmend had to do with slaves who gave birth to children in our country they would be made citizens after being born here. In the last 30 years politicians somehow included illegal aliens to this group. the amendment wasn't written that way, so please all undocumented aliens and their children, go back to your country of origin and march on your capitols for your rights, and take Harry Reid and all of the political sympathisers with you.
Why you think the government not enforce their immigration policies?
Maybe the answer is here:
http://www.cpa.state.tx.us/specialrpt/un...
Is a investigation made for the former Texas comptroller Susan Combs (rep) or there are more options:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/busine...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_im...
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets...
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...
Please read and be informed before spread hate.
I would support the immigration law here in Nevada. Unlike most people who have not read the law, I have and there has been a lot of safeguards put in to the law to prevent racial profiling.
The feds have completely dropped the ball in enforcing the immigration laws and securing our borders. The states have to do something to pick up where the feds have failed.
I have been in construction for 20+ years in las vegas and in the union. I know illegal immagration will tear down the unions in time, if employers can get cheap labor they will. Now Obama and reid want to do away with the law that hurts companies that hire illlegal aliens, WHAT, lets let companies hire cheap labor. If I were african-american I would be upset as heck and protesting the ACLU and the dems, the illegal immagration and open boarder hurts them more then anybody. Unemployment high in their neiborhoods and drug problems stems from the open boarder. I am a Dem and liberial, I will sign up to stop Illegal immagration and close the boarder.
A few weeks ago, I read in the Sun that Nevada already has a law similar to AZs and that Metro checks the immigration status of EVERYONE"not racial profiling if it's done to everyone"brought in. As I recall, they run into problems when they call ICE to report/deport the illegals because they're often instructed to release the people because ICE is too busy or the person isn't troublesome enough for ICE to come get them.
Seems like your outrage should be redirected towards DHS Secretary Napolitano and her assistant secretary of homeland security for U.S. Immigration and Customs, John Morton on their citizen comment line at: 202-282-8495.
Reblfan"when Bush stepped up ICE raids at meat packing plants guess what they found"5 out of 6 plants were unionized. Seems the unions were more concerned with collecting dues rather than looking too closely at who was paying them.
And before the "them vs us" political banter starts, keep in mind this is the same Bush that pushed the temporary worker visa program.
In America aliens working for cash possess more freedoms than allowed to those imprisoned by their own laws.
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Get rid of the income tax and put in a National Sales tax, that way everybody including the illegals pay!
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SgtRock: "I have no idea why the NAACP is for illegal immigration."
I BELIEVE dhvincent1 HAS POSTED THE ANSWER!
By dhvincent1: All of you are not seeing the obvious. These pathetic POS groups are only doing this for publicity.
I BELIEVE that the NAACP is, once again, RUNNING SCARED - as it has in years gone by when "Black people" have lost some visibility and political power in the arena of Washington DC.
VISIBILITY, and INFLUENCE by the numbers (of people), is the very reason why Jessie Jackson, and others, "recruited" WOMEN into a MINORITY STATUS - along with Black people and other miniorities. And they had the power to get Congress to pay attention.
But as a side point, WOMEN are a MAJORITY of the population in this country; NOT an minority. The issues that affect women may not be given the attention that some of them deserve, but that has nothing to do with whether they are a minority or not. But it gets the attention of CONGRESS.
Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, and many others have worked for years to continue their political influence and supreme minority status in Washington, DC - and it has gained them many benefits, government programs, and a visible seat in high places. (Just like other groups who lobby Congress.)
However warranted much of the "civil rights" legislation, and "upward mobility" programs of the past have been - over the past 10-15 years, the NAACP and others HAVE BECOME CONCERNED that the POLITICAL FOCUS on MEXICANS, and illegal Aliens (i.e., "Latins" / "Hispanics"), will PUSH BACK the "Black political agenda" in Washington, DC.
This pushback, will occur via IMMIGRATION REFORM as it moves forward as a "humanitarian" effort, to give Illegal Aliens THEIR "CIVIL RIGHTS" - as was done for Black people years ago.
So it appears that the NAACP is trying to either:
(1) get on the BAND-WAGON of noisy protesters so they can maintain their VISIBILITY - and therfore maintain their seat, position, and voice at the table of government programs - and/or,
(2) ensure that they can maintain their "POLITICAL POWER" in Washington, DC, - by showing concern for the plight of Illegal Aliens, AND being able to have some input as to how such reforms take place - (which will supposedly help Black people in some way.)
Actually, I think the NAACP's participation in such actions, and their partnership with the ALCU, is stupid. I think the NAACP is stretching - and will disenchant the very people it is supposed to be working for - Black people.
I say this because I know many Black people who are opposed to many things the NAACP does, and I also am know many Black people who are proud Americans - and DO NOT SUPPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS, and want the border secured. THAT would protect the interests of Black people - all Americans - too.
Further, I believe this misguided action will cost the NAACP credibility, and support - on "both sides of the asile" in Nevada and Congress.
Perhaps the Native Americans can share some insight upon immigration issues?
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Liberals are strictly behind this obnoxious push to obtain quasi--legitimate path to citizenship, which must be stopped at any cost. Learn about the corruption in Washington and in State Capitols in both ruling parties. Your vote is powerful, so its up to you and only--YOU! Obama's administration Czars are debunking our US Constitution and not following the voice of the people? Support the State of Arizona. Stop any immigration Amnesty as it will bankrupt many states. Don't follow the fate that the Sanctuary--illegal alien--state of California is suffering from? De Mint is right--investigate for yourself, the money extracted by the IRS to pay for the invasion. Hundreds of thousands of "Anchor babies" get free everything for parents, including low income housing. Discover the abhorrent facts on NumbersUSA and Judicial Watch. Call your Representative at 202-224-3121 and demand their support of the state of Arizona or see the door in coming November elections.
This piece of news will make most patriotic Americans blood boil. About 3500 acres of southern Arizona along the nation border with Mexico is off limits to US citizens due to increased violence in this region. So, as our government has surrendered and ceded part of Arizona to the smugglers and cartels of Mexico? Are we not still a world power that we cannot send in troops, with weapons and wipe this stain off the map. I say go into this area and clean it up. Wipe out every last one of them. This is--OUR--America, not the morons of legislators. Have the Democratic Liberal Obama administration a soft touch for President Calderon and the corrupt officials that have infiltrated his government? I am fed up with our own pathetic government being dictated to, by the open border coalition.
Sen. Reid cut funding to the real two parallel fences, now we have only one and uncompleted. Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-TX, and co-sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn, (R-TX) are utterly disregarded the people's voice. They are entirely to carry the can for severing funding and killing the second fence. YES! There were supposed to be two fences, under the 2006 Secure Fence Act as drafted by Rep. Duncan Hunter. Democratic majority Reid is the ruthless leader in tabling any law that would protect the American people. We as the majority of Americans must speak up or we will finally be overrun with people who have no allegiance to our country, diluting our national language, desperate criminals who are spilling US citizen-legal resident blood and draining quite successfully our welfare entitlement system.
There will be a confrontation soon between Americans who want a halt to illegal immigration occupancy and the zealots who want open borders? NumbersUSA has all the answers to these question of those pandering to specific ethnic organizations, and wants you to keep subsidizing illegal aliens lives. Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada has the followers who see nothing wrong, for you to keep unceasingly pay-out for illegal alien families who need urgent care in hospitals, education for their children and other welfare programs. Our country is 13 Trillion dollars in debt, which is mostly owed to Communist China. We have about 15 million people slogging the streets for jobs, but their is estimated to be 8.5 million foreigners working on bogus ID and Social Security numbers employed. If you haven't checked your Credit report lately, I suggest you do? My own Social Security number was compromised of all things by a person working for a Security Firm in Dallas, TX.
Apart from Sen. Reid who has to go, Pelosi in charge of our Homeland Security, Clinton, Holder, Morton, Boxer, Schumer and Graham are all set on--FORCING--through another financially crippling--AMNESTY. Now that this fury battle has been ignited by the Arizona SB 1070 police law, we must not let this controversial issue sink quietly beneath the oil situation in the Gulf. Governor Brewer is an upstanding patriotic American and doesn't crawl to powerful influences of businesses who hire illegal aliens, ethnic caucuses and reams of other soft-brained idiots, who want massive avalanches of people from South-North of the border or intentionally overstayed their visa.
As a Independent, a Tea Partier I want politicians working for every American and legal entrant. Years of neglect have come back to haunt each political parties and now they are going to serve you a hundred billion dollar bailout. By legalizing criminal aliens who violated our sovereign law of defending our borders from drug criminals and others with criminal records escaping from foreign law enforcements. The criminal element is prevalent in the border state of Arizona, but if we don't throw out of office the corrupt lawmakers, the spreading violence and criminal activity will get worse. IN EVERY STATE!. It's outrageous when an American public servant such as Madame Clinton reveals to a foreign Diplomat about our internal affairs before the US taxpayers who pay her salary. Clinton might is against the "ATTRITION OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, but Governor Brewer has already received $48.000 from the Average Citizen-legal resident to support this the SB 1070 policing law.
Listen Left Wingers? My ancestors were from the Inuit tribes of Russian Alaska. My great, Grandfather was a Dutch Whaling Captain. So I have American Indian blood in my veins. Therefore--I have something to say. I agree wholeheartedly with the Arizona law and hope is enacted by every state. In addition, we must throw out of office all pro-amnesty incumbents, arrest an imprison employers who illegal hire. Our great US constitution that Americans have lived by, has been spat upon by and ignored by the Liberal extremists who are Czars in President Obama's administration. They are a rancid part of the open border coalition who wants to overrun America, with paupers from third world countries.
Checked on a couple of links listed by franco. According to the Texas study link the state collected $1.58 billion in taxes paid by illegals while paying out only $1.16 billion in expenses. It also mentioned that local governments and businesses spent $1.44 billion in unrembursed expenses for illegals. A net loss to the citizens of Texas of $1.02 billion dollars. The article on the Fox news link provided by franco the author didn't bother to mention the expenses spent by the locals. So instead of the actual $1.02 billion loss he spun it into a $424 million gain for the state. Fair and balanced Fox indeed. How many of the other numbers presented by this idiot were just pulled out of the air.
We can account for the expenses for illegals but how do we account for the so called revenues. Do illegals declare their status when buying goods and services? Nope. Do illegals declare their status if they actually file a tax return? No. So the numbers as far as revenue, gdp, or any other measure of the "benefits" illegals bring to any state or the nation are just fiction.
One number that is not fiction is the amount of money sent accross the border. If those billions of dollars were spent here it would be a huge boost to jobs and revenue collection. Less unemployment paid out too. Instead that money is used to prop up corrupt governments south of the border.
In 2006 family remittances to Mexico from the US were $23.1 billion. In 2007 they were $24 billion. The first half of 2008 they were $11.6 billion. These numbers do not include remittances going to other countries south of the border. Just taking a number of $20 billion that works out to $400 million per state. Can you imagine the state of our economy and government finances if that money was spent here. Instead it's welfare money for corrupt welfare countries.
Until recently 40% of the Las Vegas school district was latino. A recent study claimed half of all latino girls have their first child by age 20. From personal observation that first kid is the first of many that come along one every year until the kids are 5 or 6 deep in each family. Or more. I live 2000 miles from the border and we had to build a new elementary school because of the latino population. Our city of 9000 is officially 20% latino. Reality says 25 to 30% and growing fast. Just south of here we have a city about our size that is offically 40% latino. Many of our politicians and economists want an open border to clean up the housing crisis and save Social Security. How can we save SS or anything else when the school and social services budgets for those immigrants with no concept of birth control will break us. Another example of the totally ignorant educated elite of government, education, and business kicking the can down the road and hope the problems solve themselves.
The latino girl next door to me already has 2 kids and she is not even twenty. I've watched her grow up and go to school here for over 10 years. She speaks to her kids in Spanish. In stores where the whole family is shopping very few of the kids are speaking English. Most are not old enough to be bilingual so that means the parents are raising disfunctional kids in need of ESL programs when they enter school. Whether illegal or not these people are getting plenty of benefits from this country and not learning or teaching their kids English is just one in a long line of things they do to disrespect us and our country.
With most latinos in low paying jobs and having big families, they pay no income taxes after deductions. So whether they are paid under the table or not most are not paying any income taxes. More money to send back home. Big deal if the ones who do pay only pay Social Security. The government has to steal that money from SS to pay for the considerable benefits they, or their fellow illegals, collect. Good deal for them, not for us
None of this would be necessary if the federal government enforced the law. Period.
NEVADA, LAS VEGAS, we are all counting on you to rid our country of Reed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We lived in LV & are wanting to move back..but..you HAVE to do 2 things,,dump Reed..and get rid of the Illegals.(the illegal situation was one of the reasons we left)..bring that wonderful city back to the wonderful, exciting place it used to be!!! Do you really want to end up like LA??? Do your stuff, we are counting on you..and we want to come back...!!!GO NEVADA, LOVE AND MISS YOU....
I will continue to speak my peace on this subject. My daughter was born in Turkey and I had to prove 5 yrs of my life ( school transcripts, income tax papers, etc ) to the U.S. Embassy. My daughter would not be given dual citizenship unless I could prove those 5 yrs of my life. Thank God I was able to prove it, my daughter is a dual citizen. The illegals of this country come here to pop out their anchor babies for one thing and one thing only. To stay in the country. They think if their children are legal citizens of the U.S. no one can throw their sorry a** out this country. Things are about to change, and I can't wait. First Arizona, and then others will follow suit. It's just a matter of time before we take back our country, but it will happen. Let's fight this fight and win!
This situtation is very dangerous. Now a group(s) opposed to a law is trying to stop it BEFORE it becomes law or is put to a vote of the people? Does this group believe it has more power than elected officials? This is racketeering.
Radical pro-illegal organizations and the cheap-labor cheap-votes crowd are desperate. They FINALLY see someone standing up and saying enough! They FINALLY see the majority of a woke-up America saying we agree. There is no going back, the party is over.
If we continue to allow illegal aliens to cross our borders at-will, and people - legal or not - do not obey our laws, and learn to speak English - these people will perpetuate the SEPERATIST STATE that currently exists for some 12-20 million Mexicans currently living in the United States.
A SEPERATE NATION will rise WITHIN the borders of the United States. In effect, a DIVIDED NATION; a state in which America is no longer be able to exist as a Representative Republic. Canada is one example of where similar problems exist due to its two national (French and English) languages, and cultures. Such two-language nations also have many people with seperate interests. They also lack a friendly UNITY as a nation. And unity is necesary for any country to function.
The history of many nations show examples of how wars were started by seperatists conflicts. The losers in such an American conflict will be ALL the people, because language ISOLATION can only further disenfranchise non-English speaking people - from Americans who speak English.
I do not support Amnesty. But soneone said recently, to resolve this illegal alien problem we should offer "woking VISA's" to illegal aliens, curently in the United States, with DEADLINES for renewing them, or dates-certain for their departure from U.S. soil - - and enforce these actions.
This would ALLOW illegal aliens to work, and encourage them to get in line for citizenship (starting at the back of the line), if they wish to do so. But they must ALSO learn English while they are living in this country.
But this idea will NOT work unless the BORDER IS SECURED FIRST, to prevent a continuing "exodus from Mexico into America. Further, those illegal aliens who will NOT come forward will be deported (when caught)- with NO CHANCE of becoming a citizen within say, five or ten years.
Such a work visa program may be the only realistic way to address this massive illegal alien problem. We are, indeed, a nation of immigrants - but we are LEGAL, English-speaking IMMIGRANTS, who also follow the laws of the U.S.
So the sooner that the La Raza crowd and others stop their support of illegal aliens - the sooner we can avoid becoming a DIVIDED NATION nation of special interests.
Well, does all of the chit-chat posted herein, and occurring around the country, smell like a potential "Civil War" could be brewing? A war that OUTSIDERS - like some Mexican leaders, Mexican media commentators, and proponents of "Reconqista" - and even American Citizens - are advocating?
If we allow the emergence of any type of SEPARATISM or CULTURAL conflicts to dominate our society, this will not resolve the problems we have. Many radical ideas are being floated by MEXICAN and AMERICAN EXTREMISTS who are only looking to serve their political or personal interests. We need to find solutions, now, that are legal, acceptable, and workable.
the naacp is a joke of an organization. how about dismantling them somehow instead of immigration. naacp causes more headaches for us than illegals do
LV Sun, where can I sign this petition?
I doubt that these state laws will be found constitutional, but they send a strong message to the Feds from the people and from the states to be responsibe and enforce federal law.
Simply by stopping any new hiring, the situation would be humanely resolved through slow attrition back to countries of origin, at no expense to the US, and avoiding social upheaval both here and abroad from massive deportations.
Chad Christensen must collect 97,002 signatures by Nov. 9 to have the "Nevada Immigration Verification" initiative considered during the 2011 legislative session.
http://www.chad2010.com/
Sorry forgot to add this link http://www.lvrj.com/news/groups-file-cha...