Utility’s plan clashes with vision for national monument
Power poles would line the area, home to massive fossil beds
Jill DeStefano, founder of the Protectors of Tule Springs, tours the Upper Las Vegas Wash with Col. Dave Belote in 2008. The group wants to preserve the fossil beds in the northwest valley that may be designated a national monument. But NV Energy has its own plans for the site.
Friday, Aug. 6, 2010 | 2:01 a.m.
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Power lines connecting Northern and Southern Nevada are needed as dozens of green energy plants are being planned or built from the Amargosa Valley to Carson City.
But there’s a problem. NV Energy says it must carve out a 260-foot swath for transmission lines that would outline an area so full of ice age fossils that it is likely to be designated a national monument.
That status would put the nearly 30,000 acres of desert in the north Las Vegas Valley, near Aliante Station, in the pantheon of national parks, giving it access to federal park funding. Supporters expect national monument legislation to be introduced in Congress soon and with the full support of Southern Nevada’s representatives.
Monument supporters say NV Energy’s transmission corridor would be “devastating” to the monument, where they envision a visitors center and designated areas where tourists and schoolchildren can do their own “digs” for still-buried fossils.
With new power poles outlining the northern border, and existing poles near the area’s southern edge, “you’d be surrounded by power poles, and the Park Service does not want to build parks whose viewscapes are surrounded by power poles,” said Jill DeStefano, a schoolteacher who founded Protectors of Tule Springs and began the push to preserve the massive fossil beds.
She added that a section of the new corridor farther east near Decatur Road intersects an area considered one of the richest in ice age fossils, “and you’d be tearing that up.”
For more than 40 years, archeologists have known about the Upper Las Vegas Wash’s treasure trove of fossils. In humidity and temperature-controlled cabinets in the San Bernardino County museum, scientists have preserved 9,876 fossils unearthed when 36 power poles were erected there.
As drawn on some maps, the 500-kilovolt power lines would follow an existing transmission corridor that juts east at Moccasin Road across U.S. 95. That corridor, which already features massive power poles, angles southeast around Decatur Road before heading directly east again on Grand Teton Drive.
The new lines would not angle southeast at Decatur, however. Instead they would keep going east on Moccasin along the northern edge of the monument. At Lamb Road, they would shoot south to Grand Teton Drive, join the existing transmission corridor, then go east.
Last week, DeStefano and North Las Vegas Mayor Shari Buck visited Washington, D.C., to meet with their congressional leaders, urging them not to include the power-line corridor, as is, in any legislation.
“We have a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and for it to be ruined by transmission lines is really unthinkable,” Buck said. “If it wouldn’t be done at Red Rock (Canyon National Conservation Area), why would it be done here?”
Jennifer Schuricht, NV Energy spokeswoman, said the transmission lines are “critical” for delivering solar energy, some of which will be generated in the Amargosa Valley to the northwest.
“The proposed lines also address future requirements for reliability and expansion of the electrical system in the northern part of the valley as well as the Apex industrial area,” she said.
Buck and DeStefano accuse NV Energy of trying to add wording to a national monument bill that would provide a utility right of way.
For more than a year, DeStefano and her Protectors of Tule Springs group lobbied for support from neighboring constituencies, including Clark County, North Las Vegas, Las Vegas, the U.S. Air Force and the Paiute Indian tribe. Armed with that support, which came in large part because local leaders recognize the potential economic and educational boon of a national monument, they lobbied for federal backing.
“This is devastating,” DeStefano said. “A year ago, we put together a whole coalition of people and invited NV Energy to the table. Now suddenly, just before legislation is going to be filed, they say they need this line and they want a right of way to do it.”
Schuricht said NV Energy learned about the national monument idea in “late 2009” and “shortly thereafter, NV Energy proactively contacted local municipalities and set up initial meetings with supporters of the monument.”
DeStefano had a one-word response to that statement: “Garbage.”
Commissioner Tom Collins, who previously worked for the power company as a journeyman lineman, said NV Energy has “not been forthright,” adding that company representatives visited him only last week to talk about it.
“We’ve known about this for more than a year and only now are they coming forward,” Collins said of NV Energy.
The County Commission last year unanimously approved Collins’ resolution supporting federal legislation to create a “fossil beds” national monument.
Commissioner Chris Giunchigliani said, “NV Energy should be putting out alternatives that are feasible besides this line, not just about what they want.”
U.S. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., has expressed interest in the national monument. At the same time, he supports Nevada’s efforts to become a green-energy producer and exporter. He told the Sun Thursday he “is hopeful the parties will work together to find a solution that maximizes Nevada’s renewable energy potential, while also allowing for protection of fossil resources in the (Las Vegas) wash.”
Commissioner Larry Brown echoed that idea.
But Buck said North Las Vegas representatives had met with NV Energy, and their “conversations went nowhere.”
A July 19 letter to Reid, co-signed by Buck and Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman, said that North Las Vegas and Las Vegas council members had several recent meetings with NV Energy, but the company “has not yet provided specific information that would support their proposal, and company representatives have not presented or discussed alternatives.”
Buck and DeStefano want NV Energy to consider a transmission corridor that takes the power lines south through Nye County. Collins said the company should consider pushing the lines farther south, then running them west to east along Interstate 215.
The North Las Vegas mayor added that she would participate in another meeting that included all parties.
One unusual fact — Clark County’s D.C. lobbyist, Marcus Faust, is also NV Energy’s — might actually help in working out a compromise.
Clark County Manager Virginia Valentine said Thursday she will talk to Faust about the potential for conflict because he works for both entities. However, she added, “the arrangement is acceptable if it appears that (he) can facilitate a compromise.”
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NV Energy's last minute end run attempt is a travesty. I support the needs for green energy and understand that transmission lines will certainly be needed. There are alternative paths for this corridor. Why now -- why here, NV Energy?
The Ice Age National Monument in the northwest valley would be a huge step toward attracting a different type of tourism to the valley, would be a boon to our local economy, AND will protect a scientific treasure trove.
To put this project at risk to protect NV Energy's pocketbook is shortsighted and counter-productive to Nevada's efforts to turn its economy around. Everyone should contact NV Energy and Senator Reid's office and encourage a compromise that doesn't pit the effort toward renewable energy against the very real need to preserve this area.
I signed a petition to see this National Monument become a reality a couple of years ago. As I have been watching the progress and anticipating this happening, I am enraged that my kids and grandkids could be robbed of this opportunity. NV Energy will only be uping the rates to all of us for some pie in the sky plan!
Come on Harry Reid, we need this new tourism and pride for Nevada!
NV energy must realize that the Las Vegas market will grow if we add attraction that draw people.
Market grow will help NV grow.
However, destroying this playground for both professional and amateur archeologists is just plain stupid and not forward looking.
Run the power lines where the city wants them.
We need a new way to attract people to visit here. Outdoor adventures, ecotourism, and a world renowned fossil site will bring in different businesses, scientists, educational opportunities. Maybe all those foreign tourists who land in Las Vegas and then take off for other National Parks will stay here in town.
This National Monument project has been talked about and in the press for years. Why is NV Energy suddenly coming in to spoil it?
I read they just got a big line coming down from Eastern Nevada. The West side from Amargosa is someone elses. All that solar will get here somehow. Stay away from this land. A national park would be amazing tourist wise for our economy
I love our national parks. I certainly can't envision one in northern Las Vegas valley. Kids digging for bones in 100F +? Lamest day trip or worst vacation ever!
That NV Energy is coming to the table SO LATE is simply irresponsible. This is something that a broad coalition of environmental, military and municipal leaders. This is not some tree-hugging project that no one cares about. This will help diversify our economy and provide a tourist destination in the northern portion of the Valley.
There are other ways of getting the line to connect into the grid. I would ask that NV Energy work other options and Sen. Reid to move this ahead.
NVEnergy where have you been? There have been at least twelve public meetings, 10,000 support signatures gathered and at least three public BLM meetings and not once have you talked publicly about these solar transmission lines. The effort to protect Tule Springs began in 2007 in a very transparent and open public process. The three local municipalities; North Las Vegas, City of Las Vegas, and Clark County have come together united in an effort to protect and preserve this natural resource by way of a National Monument. US Air Force and the Paiute Tribe have also been strong advocates and supporters. And now we have come to the critical stage of working with our Washington delegation and you waltz in without an ounce of sweat equity and ask to be included in this legislation for a right-of-way that you have not publicly vetted. Really? Where are your signatures of support, where is your cost-benefit analysis of this route alternative compared to the other alternatives, what do your rate payers think of your plan to impede the National Monument. This monument is the final jewel in a string of rich resources in Southern Nevada. It will give North Las Vegas and the Northwest portion of our valley a unique discovery of massive fossil finds that will create tourism, educational opportunties, and economic diversity. All this, and the economic and cultural value should be weighed against the documented alternatives NVEnergy has for this transmission line. It appears to me that you don't want to vet this transmission line in the public forum, but rather you want to benefit from three-years of hard work by POTS and many others and negotiate behind closed doors for a right-of-way that you know should have involved much more work on your part. You should be meeting with neighbors, environmentalists, and other concerned citizens, but instead you're looking for the easy way to your transmission line; the political path. Well, NVEnergy the cat is out of the bag and you need to step up and do the right thing; select the alternative that does not impede in any way the intent of the National Monument and allows for the full protection of this natural wonder.
@bape702: Exactly what is your definition of "nice things"? How does encouraging NV Energy to compromise and find alternative locations for its power lines, so that we can have something other than gaming to attract tourism to our valley, make me an "enviro-whako"? Lastly - why would "nobody care" about an important resource for scientific evaluation of the impact of global climactic changes over 200,000 years?
It's apparent that you're commenting without being aware of what was planned or what the area has to offer.
She added that a section of the new corridor farther east near Decatur Road intersects an area considered one of the richest in ice age fossils, "and you'd be tearing that up."
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE WORST ARGUMENT EVER FOR NOT ALLOWING THE POWERLINE TO GO THROUGH!!! Projects like this are the absolute BEST thing that could ever happen to these fossil beds. During construction, the BLM would require an archaeologist on site to ensure the preservation and curation of the fossils. They would be removed, studied and used for education purposes and then housed in a museum somewhere. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO LET A TREASURE TROVE OF FOSSILS SIT AND WEATHER IN THE DESERT WHERE ANYONE CAN JUST DIG THEM UP OR DUMP THEIR GARBAGE ON THEM.
You NIMBY's just need to come out and tell everyone the real reason you don't want development behind your houses. If you had done your research before you bought your homes, you would have noticed that the Northern area of the valley was Master Planned for development. This National Park movement is a big joke and a waste of time and resources for an area that no one will visit.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME SHARI BUCK!!! How in the world can you compare the beauty of Red Rock canyon with this urban dumping ground???? Does anyone honestly thing this is going to attract tourism?
Your absolutely right Shari...you wouldn't put powerlines through Red Rock...because it's PRISTINE and CARED FOR. This supposed Ice Age Park is just used for a dumping ground. Who would want to sit in the desert in a 110+ degrees and look at some garbage. HONESTLY! I don't want another dime of my taxes wasted on this ignorant park.
NV Energy has a long history of just doing dumb things, this is another.
The natonal park proposal is something we need - it is important for this and future generations.
HANDS OFF NV ENEGRY!
I'm in favor of running the transmission lines along the I95 and the 215 to meet up with the existing grid.
You can have both the park and the transmission lines and to say otherwise is silly.
The park is a great idea and the only reason to run the lines through the proposed park is for the NV Energy monopoly to save a buck.
I would be willing to bet that everyone in favor of this dumb idea lives in Aliante.
A new monument would easily help the sagging economy of Vegas. It would have staying power. People from all over the world would visit.
Green energy is a scam. It will carve up the landscape, ruin the scenery, cost tourisim dollars, make your rates go way up, and new power lines will be a source of SF6 gases, sulfur hexiflouride, 24,000 times more potent than C02: http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/mar2010/...
You are losing your back yard so NV Energy can meet renewable goals and charge you an arm and a leg. Renewables can go on the roof and disturbed lands, but good ole Harry Reid just hates our wide open space...
What scenery are you talking about Sunlizard? The rusted out washing machine or the stack of burned mattresses?
Las Vegas is surrounded by many truly wonderful natural attractions, including Tule Springs. Arguing against the NV proposal is not a NIMBY thing at all. It is a proposal for further working out what Las Vegas is and will be for years to come. It is an attempt to add another, brighter facet to this city.
If it is not abundantly clear that this city needs a broader base, economic and cultural, than gaming and construction contributes, then the agony of the last two years has truly been for naught.
The proposed national monument brings further depth to a wonderful city and a move toward a broader and deeper economy.
Isn't it ironic that it now "solar" electricity that justifies damaging a priceless resource? Solar is everywhere we're told, but the lines just have to go through a reservoir of natural history 10,000 old. Please.
Watch out for the NIMBY's...
Nimby, it is beautiful out there if you go and amazing to see mammoth bones 180,000 years old laying on the ground. Also, a national park unit won't affect the local taxes. But, trust me your rates will go sky high with NV Energy's build even if we don't need it mentality.
Heh there's already garbage and powerlines there, How about preserving species that still exist rather than the bones of the extinct ? Lets insure we get as much renewable energy as possible that would be in the interest of the surviving life forms.
I am a strong supporter of clean energy AND the proposed National Monument. There has to be a solution that allows the Monument to go forward without power lines through it. Funds from the National Park Agency would benefit the area long term. NV Energy needs to work honestly and seriously to find alternative solutions acceptable to both interests.
@No_to_Nimbys: Are you seriously suggesting that cleaning up the "rusted out washing machine or the stack of burned mattresses" wouldn't be another benefit of gaining the National Monument? Are you suggesting they stay?
Nimby is my cat's name...
I think National Monuments should be powerlineless pristine lands. I'm not so sure land developers don't have anything to do with this dilemma. The land there is already greatly disturbed.
Bowman, I've been out there SEVERAL times working on various projects. The only thing worth saving MAYBE are some of the land formations. I would never ever want to see the fossils just lay out there and weather and suffer further abuse from the environment or man.
To SDG: I'm not suggesting that cleaning the area up would not be a good idea...the problem is that it is so remote that it has become an easy place to dump whatever you want whenever. Even still, with the area cleaned up, what are you left with? Just a remote area in one of the hottest parts of town. Really? I certainly would rather hike Red Rock or Mount Charleston...there's a lot more to see, more wildlife, more flora and fauna,etc.
This park is just a thinly veiled argument for the people who live out there that don't want anything built behind them. BTW, how do you propose getting people to this park? Your certainly going to need some sort of road system out there...right? Or do just expect everyone to "hike".
The other thing no one has noticed is that this area is already disturbed. There's already two powerlines through the wash as well as drainage and detention basins and the Clark County Shooting Park nearby.
And NO, I do not work for NV Energy or any of their contractors.
@No_to_NIMBYS - The fact of the matter is that NV Energy was invited to the process early on, and declined to participate. Then, when their request was denied by the PUC they tried to do an end-run around the process to get what they want. If they had simply been involved in the process from the beginning, this would not be an issue today.
Nimby is right! I have no problem with National Parks being built, however, build them in areas that have something to offer. I just can't see anyone coming to our valley that would pass up Red Rock to go out to this supposed Ice Age Park to look at fossils that look like broken pieces of wood some scattered on the ground.
How can any of you honestly say that this area compares to Yosemite, Grand Canyon, Grand Teton or even Arches. It just doesn't measure up to the status of a National Park and we should not be wasting resources that could go to preserve what we already have.
Don't be fooled by this. Approval of the power poles are just to open the gateway for more urban sprawl and un-needed development up there.
If you research NLV zoning and city plans, you will see the proposed layout of new streets to be built up there.
@SaveLasVegas - you are absolutely right! Do a little more research and you will see how long those plans have been on the books.
So all of you people who live out in Aliante have absolutely no excuse to think that you were never told of the development plans for that area. If you had done your due diligence and researched what was planned for the area, maybe you would have chosen a different place to live.
"This park is just a thinly veiled argument for the people who live out there that don't want anything built behind them. BTW, how do you propose getting people to this park? Your certainly going to need some sort of road system out there...right? Or do just expect everyone to "hike"
We Duh! You build a view point or two and a visitor center. Doesn't have to be as ugly as a transmission line. Called planning.
No, we don't want that in our back yard. No kidding!
"@SaveLasVegas - you are absolutely right! Do a little more research and you will see how long those plans have been on the books"
That can be changed overnight. There is no demand for all the BLM land targeted for disposal in the area anymore. The housing boom went bust. Matter of public demand and preference for land use. Housing sprawl is no longer a big deal. We just need a politician to grow a pair!
So Sunlizard, the two transmission lines that are out there now are OK? Adding this new line is what's going to ruin the view. OK, I get it...I think.
Keep adding them and you got a real ugly place. Guess you don't see that...
Talk about stupid common ground solutions too big to see, lines? Why OVERHEAD LINES??
Bury 'em. No icy windstorms for the linemen on Christmas.
No uglee signs of me and thee.
No trace, just a beeline through time, a right-now solution to grab the rays for some kicks and grins.
What? Fossil Who?
I am all for an ice age national park to bring in more tourism activities to the Las Vegas area. Those proposed power lines can be re-routed so as not to ruin the surrounding aesthetics.
Harry Reid is the key culprit in this poorly conceived power line issue. We have seen Harry be the puppet master for special interests before. Most recently with the CCSP (aka CCMP-Clark County Money Pit), where Senator Reid came to the NRA's alter cash in hand with $61 million in SNPLMA funds and was the key driving force in giving the NRA their money losing trophy gift.
When he was called on by his constituents surrounding the park to help with their environmental impact concerns, he told them to speak with the local county officials, denying he could be of any help to them from a national level with a County project.
Harry now comes with stimulus money in hand to deliver an expensive gift to the alter of Nevada Energy for the poorly conceived idea of placing power lines over a historic paleontological site. Next step for Harry will be to shift the blame solely to Nevada Energy and to deny his ability to intercede.
That is why a good puppet master like Harry needs a curtain so no one knows who's pulling the strings for the special interests. Unfortunately for Harry, with good investigative journalism people can see behind the curtain and Harry will be held accountable in this upcoming election for his actions.
I have been fortunate to participate in a tour of this area and found it to have significant potential for attracting a different type of tourism. Diversification is what this valley needs. This park represents a great opportunity to capitalize on this need. NV energy is trying to cut corners in order to make a buck. They are unwilling to pay the Pauites, so they are trying to find a way to skirt around them. Why don't they find another route that is not so disruptive? How about going through Pahrump? They need transmission. Seems like NV Energy hasn't done their homework and is trying to pull a fast one. It would be sad if the interests of one private company was granted while denying the collective intersts of the City of NLV, City of LV, Clark County, organized groups like POTS and according to the article, the United States AIR FORCE!
The location of this new national monument to a large population base makes good economic sense. The potential of this site to educate our children is exciting. (I know it's hard to remember, given this very hot summer, but it's not 100+ degrees year-round!) We need to focus on preserving this unique area for the future. My family has participated in two clean-up days in the area and we look forward to the Ice Age Park being protected and preserved. Power lines can be rerouted, but history cannot!
Let's see what Senator Reid's true colors are...early on we proponents were told by his staff to back away from NV energy, and they'd take care of that aspect of the monument discussions. In all too many things "Reid", discussions are NOT transparent. For too long too many "environmental groups" have groveled at his feet
Too many people who can see the benefits of a potential national monument are speaking out against the last minute NV Energy move to disrupt this project.
Let's ask a simple question. Would building another powerline bring visitors or jobs to our economy once it's completed? Or would developing a national monument bring visitors and tourists to our area once completed?
Yes, we do need powerlines - but they can be realigned. Can we move or realign the fossils to protect them for future research? I don't believe that's an option.
This should NOT be a political debate. It's simply a question of what's best for the majority of people. And their children.
NV Energy's late arrival at the table to address transmission corridors through land proposed for national park status is difficult to reconcile. But why must NV Energy (and nearly all US utility providers) cling to a centralized power model that calls for so many transmission corridors in the first place? Why doesn't NV Energy and partners construct solar, wind, geothermal projects to service specific communities obviating the need for extensive transmission corridors to connect Southern and Northern Nevada and Nevada with California, etc.? And why is green power used as the sole guise for constructing said corridors when we all know that a greater amount electricity traveling through such corridors will have been generated by other means? Green energy is not green if we must carve up and trample all matter of habitat between here and there to move energy through a grid so we can call ourselves a green energy state. Energy conservation, an often forgotten cornerstone of a green energy system, is poorly cultivated through a centralized power model. Furthermore, such a model may aid in NV Energy (or other utilities) in placing shareholder interests over stakeholder interests. Localized power models have the potential to reduce the need for extensive transmission corridors, safeguard stakeholder interests, and foster energy conservation. Perhaps, we can make greater inroads in becoming a green energy state if we abandon the goal of managing our energy system at the level of the entire state, opting instead for several smaller energy systems that can better integrate local green energy sources where most appropriate.
Nice job, Las Vegas Sun, in reporting on the creation of a new national monument - and now reporting on NVEnergy's 11th-hour attempt to locate MASSIVE transmission lines in the monument.
The points that must be repeated are:
1) NVEnergy needs to show need for the transmission lines and needs to be forthright about alternatives. (They have done neither.)
2) NVEnergy needs to be questioned why they NOW petition Nevada's Congressional delegation to give them a carte blanche right of way. (Calculated disregard for the stated interests of the cities, the county, the air force, Paiute tribe and conservation groups? Of course!)
I have faith that Nevada's Congressional delegation will NOT pander to the private shareholder interests of the utility company but, instead, honor the open process of all stakeholders in creating a national park.
Solarman. Great points. Please call or email Reid's staff with your information.
Solar transmission can run down the western side of the state through Nye County anyway,
NV Energy has had ample opportunity to be involved with the citizens' groups working to preserve and protect this priceless area as a national monument, but unlike other important stakeholders such as the cities and Nellis AFB, has chosen not to do so. To create a roadblock at this late date is selfishness on their part. The prestige and socioeconomic benefits to southern Nevada of a national monument far outweigh the need for yet another utility corridor, especially when there are other alternatives available. Shame on NV Energy!