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Cory Joseph picks Texas, Dwayne Polee up in the air, Mike Moser visits UNLV

Recruiting carousel at full speed this weekend for Lon Kruger and staff

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Los Angeles Westchester High forward Dwayne Polee Jr. joins the UNLV student section during a Nov. 28, 2009 game against Louisville at the Thomas & Mack Center. The Rebels upset the 16th-ranked Cardinals, 76-71.

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Mike Moser

If ever there was a wild roller coaster of a 48-hour period in the world of recruiting for the UNLV men's basketball program in the Lon Kruger era, Thursday and Friday would be it.

Findlay Prep guard Cory Joseph is now out of the picture, Westchester (Calif.) High swingman Dwayne Polee may or may not be out, and onto the scene now could be 6-foot-8 UCLA transfer Mike Moser.

Joseph, who Rivals.com ranks as the No. 7 prospect in the 2010 class, told ESPN.com Friday afternoon that he has committed to Texas, where he'll join Findlay teammate and close friend Tristan Thompson. The duo combined to lead the Pilots earlier this month to their second consecutive title at the ESPN Rise National High School Invitational.

The Findlay coaching staff confirmed the commitment, while attempts made by the Sun to reach Joseph were unsuccessful. He's at home in Toronto through the weekend.

"I had a great relationship with coach (Rick) Barnes and all the staff and players," Joseph told ESPN. "I feel that it's the best fit for me overall."

Joseph had long mulled over his final list of five schools, which also included — in no particular order — UNLV, Villanova, Minnesota and Connecticut.

It was long rumored that Texas' chances would improve greatly if another former Findlay teammate — Avery Bradley — left early for the 2010 NBA Draft, meaning more immediate playing time could be available.

Bradley did declare for the draft after averaging 11.6 points per game as a freshman this season for the Longhorns, but has not yet signed with an agent, leaving the door open for him to return to Austin for his sophomore campaign.

As for UNLV's other target in the 2010 senior class — the 6-foot-7, high-flying Polee — it's nothing but mixed signals right now, which won't be set straight until he makes his intentions known Saturday night.

Polee will announce his choice Saturday at halftime of the Collision All-Star game at El Camino College in Los Angeles. The game is at 6:30 p.m..

Thursday night, Polee sent a text message to Adam Zagoria of zagsblog.com saying that it was between Georgia and St. John's for his services, thus essentially dropping UNLV from his radar.

Then, in a subsequent phone interview with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Polee would not confirm that it was in fact down to a two-horse race.

Several attempts made by the Sun via phone calls and text messages to get in touch with Polee this week have gone unreturned.

UNLV has been on Polee for quite some time.

The Los Angeles City Section Player of the Year who led the Comets to a second consecutive Division I state title earlier this month, took an official visit to UNLV late in November, watching the Rebels knock off then-No. 16 Louisville, 76-71.

Rumors began swirling that he was close to committing to UNLV not too long after winning the state title, but his recruitment has dragged on a bit with the introduction of some new contenders in the race, such as New Mexico, UTEP and St. John's.

St. John's has emerged as a late favorite behind the efforts of new coach — and former UCLA boss — Steve Lavin.

However, the UNLV staff hasn't been sitting by the phone waiting on decisions from Joseph and Polee.

Visiting campus this weekend is Moser, who earlier this month announced his intention to transfer from UCLA following a freshman campaign in which he saw limited action.

Moser only played 4.7 minutes per game in 15 appearances for the 14-18 Bruins this season, averaging 0.6 points, 0.5 rebounds and 0.3 assists.

Originally from Portland, Ore., Moser was ranked by Rivals.com as the No. 92 prospect in the 2009 senior class. At 6-8 and 195 pounds, he projects out to be a player at the collegiate level similar to another Bruin-turned-Rebel — Chace Stanback.

For more updates on the UNLV basketball recruiting front throughout the weekend, stay tuned to lasvegassun.com/rebels.

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  1. Disappointed, but not really surprised.

    You'd think Cliff Findlay could find a better way to spend his $$$ than on a feeder school for Texas.

  2. I'll say it again, I'll take a transfer over a noobie out of high school any day. You have seen your product work and know what you are getting.

    To all the haters, stick around and watch the fireworks. I'm happy with the choices, and long term commits.

    It seems to take kids a year somewhere else to realize what UNLV has to offer then end up transferring here afterwards. Fine by me!

  3. And I really don't like the idea of becoming Transfer U.

    Enough, sufferin, with the nit talk. You said it all last year and you were wrong. Be a man and admit that.

    We've made the ncaa 3 of 4 years.

    I agree that we need to start landing players like CJ to make that next leap to E8 or F4 status, but the nit talk is silly.

  4. SufferinSuccotash, you lost the bet when you said UNLV will be in the N.I.T. this year. You are wrong. Hahahahaha!!! You tell Lon Kruger that UNLV will be N.I.T. in 2011 or 2012 he will just laugh at you. Hahahaha!!!

  5. Glad you're not on the selection committee, troll.

  6. Not sure why you would prefer a transfer who barely played on a 14-18 team than a freshman like Polee.

  7. I think Moser would be a solid pick up.

    It's not his fauld UCLA fell apart.

    Would much rather have Polee, though. Although my guess is he goes to SJU. Hope I'm wrong.

  8. No problem with transfers as long as reliable players!! I like the transfers who comes from big times schools.

  9. Moser couldn't get playing time on the worst Bruin team in years. That's why he left. UNLV should pass on him.

  10. Suff, enough. You talk out of your ass way too much.

  11. I think Polee is history, if he wont return calls from the Sun, but answers calls from the AJC, he is obviously giving Las Vegas the cold shoulder.
    We need above the rim players, hopefully Buckley is better then Hamba and Mitchell. I think more for shot blocking then for scoring. Still cant believe Mitchell had a hard time dribbling a basketball and getting into a defensive position. Crazy.

  12. Espn had Moser the #13 SF and #55 overall last year.

    December, 2008: Moser is one of the most underrated prospects in the country. He can impact a game at both ends with equal aplomb. Defensively, he has the athleticism, length, and moxy to defend all three perimeter positions at the next level. He's a tough rebounder despite his wiry frame and he's able to lead the break and deliver a solid pass. His jump shot needs work, but he makes his fair share of 3's. Overall, Moser plays every possession with a purpose in mind. Despite his lack of strength, his defensive prowess and savvy should garner early playing time at UCLA next season.

    Like our chances with him because of Chace and the other schools he looked at were all Pac-10 and he would have to sit out longer to transfer within the conference.

  13. Keep talking SufferinSuccotash go tell the whole UNLV Basketball team that they're N.I.T. team you are just embarassing yourself. But you still lost the bet. Hahahahahaha!!!!! You lost SufferinSuccotash in the bet. Wheeeewwww.

  14. LV-Born, doesn't matter what ESPN said in 2008. This is 2010 and he's a bust. Logic has it right

  15. If Polee goes to SJU its because he hasn't done his due diligence on Lavin. Baron Davis straight up said that when he played for UCLA they were the only team to make it to the sweet 16 without a coach (http://larrybrownsports.com/college-bask...). Lavin is a garbage coach and a garbage TV analyst. Whoever is advising Polee is doing a terrible job. He's passing up an opportunity to play for a coach that cares about developing him and that is capable of doing so for Steve Lavin or Mark Fox (Kirk Snyder, Javale McGee, and co. are lighting up the NBA--Nope).

  16. So, patticcus, would you have thrown that same 'bust' label on Stanback or Willis when they averaged similar numbers as freshmen at UCLA or Memphis, respectively? That logic makes no sense whatsoever. None of us know the exact situation at UCLA, so calling him a bust is beyond premature.

  17. I agree with all of you it would of be nice to land CJ, who wouldn't want a kid with his talent. I think Polee would be a nice pick up as well, but doubt he is coming UNLV.

    I don't know why everyone it getting so upset. Do you guys forget who the team has coming back? We return everyone of importance and will field a very solid team. Next year will be crucial in recruiting solid players. Kruger has already landed one in Glanz. We could be a lot worse shape.

    It is funny how we are experts on the outside and in the stands. There is a reason we are all not coaching a D-1 program.

  18. Let's set the record straight on Texas. They were loaded this year...and they were AWFUL.

  19. Willis (Class of 2006) and Stanback (Class of 2007) played well on expectations for 2009-2010. Calling them "bust" makes no sense at all. Both players are now 1-2 punch scoring machine for UNLV.

  20. I have no idea if Moser is a "bust" or not but the point you make about Chace and Tre is not a good one Ryan. Chace played on a team that went to the final four and had future NBA players like Collison, Love, Westbrook, and Mbah a Moute. Willis played on a team that went to the elite eight and featured players like Douglas-Roberts(NBA), Dozier, Dorsey and Anderson that would be the foundation of their runner up team in 2008. Moser did not play on what could have been one of the worst teams in UCLA history(14-18). Now Moser may turn out to be a decent player but simply saying that Chace and Tre were in similar positions is not accurate. Tre and/or Chace would have started as freshman for that UCLA team and most likely averaged double figures.

  21. I'll try this post again...spent plenty of time watching Moser in the off season @ the gym I go to here in Portland. He played along and at times above other quality OR talents (K. Love/P. McCoy). A bit of a tweener, soft inside but won't tear it up from the perimeter. I think he'll thrive at junk buckets and a second team energy guy. Concerns me a bit that he left UCLA and changed his mind on Arizona (sounds like it's all about him at times?). Locals in PDX thought he didn't give 100% all the time. I know he has talent and Kruger might be able to push him but he might be dusty by the time he can even get on the court. I know he has more of an upside than Crittle and Humphrey (other notable transfers), who I believe might land some where closer to Chicago. Polee would have been nice and I don't think UNLV was really a contender for Joseph. Don't lose faith, I think this is a sweet sixteen team with the returning guys and new additions.

  22. sufferinsuccotash

    Haaaaaaa! You bet UNLV was NIT bound this year. You claim UNLV is NIT quality and we barely lost to N. Iowa who upset Kansas who most favored to win the tourney. Now you claim we are headed to NIT for next couple of years cuz we didnt land CJ and possibly now Polee. Your analysis on basketball is piss poor.

  23. SufferinSuccotash,
    You can work for ESPN college basketball as a analyst with your UNLV Basketball predictions. Work with Dick Vitale, Digger Phelps, Jay Bilas and Hubert Davis. I'm pretty sure you will say on television UNLV N.I.T. bound for the next ten years. Go analyze with the NCAA selection committee every March and tell them UNLV should not be in the NCAA Tournament. Go ahead and tell Bill Self that Kansas is N.I.T. team when they lost to Northern Iowa.

  24. @ Pratticus

    The kid would be a Soph and have 3 years left if he came to UNLV after sitting out 1 year and practicing with the team and working on his strength and conditioning. How can you call a Fr. a bust? He is a 4 year player and has the tools to be really good? VERY premature to call him a bust!

    He de-committed from Arizona when Lute left and it seems that not many player are happy with Ben at UCLA lately so lets not pass judgment!

  25. Ryan, Chace played for a final four Ucla team stacked with NBA talent. Jasper started for Kentucky with a bad knee injury. Moser couldn't get off the bench of a real bad Ucla team. This isn't rocket science. He's got Lamar Roberson written all over him. I bet Louisiana Lafayette was all excited when Roberson transfered to their school from UNLV. How they were disappointed when he averaged about 4 points per game in whatever 2 bit league they play in.

    I've been watching college ball for nearly 25 years, and i've seen alot of players come and go. Mark my words, Polee will be a bust at St. Johns. Moser will be a bust wherever he goes. If I'm wrong, I won't have a problem admitting it.

  26. Cliff Findlay needs to shut Findlay Prep down. It was started so UNLV could land players like Joseph....it has failed miserably and Cliff should be smart enough to see that he should not be paying hundreds of thousands to load up Texas with McDonald's All Americans every year.

    This program has hit its ceiling under Kruger....if he couldn't land Polee and Joseph he never will...its not Krugers fault though....UNLV as a school is an absolute disgrace....the budget cuts have permanently stunted any inkling of UNLV becoming a serious school.

    Hey at least UNR had a nice recruiting class...they are the flagship university after all!

  27. Cory...I want my $50 bucks back for my "key to the city banner" punk! Naw, just playin'. Good luck in Texas homeboy. You're gonna make a grip of cash in the league.

    Dwayne. Pick UTEP...so we can beat the crap out of you and your new team next year. Or, just sign with UNLV like you were GOING TO DO all along.

    It's cool though, young buck. Like CJ, I wish you all the luck, too. Our coaching staff should do a better job making VEGAS a more attractive destination for you kids.

    Much love, CJ and DP. I want you to do great, even if it is not in LV!

  28. Bam, Findlay is shutting down. It has proven too costly, and the school they have they players go to Henderson International, is cutting the high school level courses. So long Texas Prep.

  29. This is a joke... Mike Moser another retread for Kruger.

    Kruger can't get top shelf recruites..face it!

  30. So glad this Finlday Prep thing is working out for UNLV. I thought the idea of this school was to help funnel 5 star high school talent towards the program. Way to go Cliff Finlday, start up a fake school basketball program that helps other colleges get 5 star talent. What an idiot! So far in Findlay's 4 year existence UNLV has only managed to get the scrub talent from the school, Brice Masamba anyone. Masamba is about as worthless as the housing market in Vegas right now. Calos Lopez is another overrated 3 star talent that will be taking up a spot on UNLV's bench next year. Can't wait to see what a bust he becomes. Cliff Findlay, go take your BS program to another state because it sure isn't helping UNLV much.

  31. Findlay needs to shut the school down. None of THE SCHOOLS BEST PLAYERS wanna come here anyway.

    This is the beginning of the end for Kruger and staff. We should have had Polee.

    All we get are retreads...where are the top shelf players??

    KRUGER, stay off the golf course a bit less and hit the pavement. Knock on some more doors, work the phones. THE BETTER RECRUITES DON'T FALL IN YOUR LAP. But, have no fear the retreads are always are around.

    Third, place in the Mtn West again next season. Maybe, make the big dance or not. Win one or two game and we are done.

    I DON'T CALL THIS A PROGRAM THAT'S ON THE RISE FOLKS. IT'S BEEN AT A STAND STILL BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THE BEST PLAYERS OUT THERE TO WIN A NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP.

    Get some stones and quite feeling like you have to brown nose your team to be a fan. Start being critical of your team. IT'S WHAT REAL FANS DO CAUSE THEY WANT THE BEST FOR THE TEAM.

    ARE THE FANS IN THIS TOWN SO BLIND AND STUPID THAT THEY CAN'T SEE OR UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING?

  32. Joseph's a difference maker for sure but - let's face it findlay's a prep school who's stars go to top ten programs ... were not there yet ... plus were good at PG (B+ level talent)... it was nice to be in the mix with nova, uconn, and texas ... im more disappointed about polee ... all rebel fans should be at church with a rosary praying this kid comes ... cuz if jasper doesn't come back 100% we have no chance to win the conf regular season... we need polee-types to guard the likes of leonard and hobson

  33. Mike Moser? Who gives a crap. He is another scrub transfer like Derek Jasper. Not good enough to play for one program so he comes to UNLV. Kruger is picking up all the sloppy seconds from the top notch programs. Mike Moser only played in 15 games last year and averaged 0.6 ppg (yes 0.6 ppg) last year. He couldn't get playing time on a BAD UCLA team that went 14-18. What does that say about him? GARBAGE. If Kruger doesn't land Polee than this recruiting class is going to be the biggest bust in years. I like Kruger but a great recruiter he is NOT. I don't understand how New Mexico landed their recruiting class and UNLV can't land crap. NM has 3 players rated 90 or better and they have a ESPN top 100 player. BYU, Utah and SDSU all have some talent coming in next season meanwhile UNLV has Henry Buckley who is only rated as an 83 by ESPN. How is it that we have only one recruit so far this year while the teams mentioned above all have 4-5 players coming in already? Isn't Vegas as attractive or better than any of those other schools? We are the only one of those schools who has a national championship in recent years (I think Utah had one back in the 40s or 50s). Kruger needs to get off his ass and start recruiting better. He may be a decent coach but he is a HORRIBLE recruiter. Better hope he lands Polee.

  34. Ohhhhhhh and lets not forget "wait till next year" well today is last years "wait till next year" folks. How many times are you gonna keep your head where the sun don't shine? Wake-up already.

    Get real.. Krugers recruiting is keeping us at a stand still. We will never get to the next level with retread recruites and lossing out on the best players comig out of HS.

    It's ok "wait till next year" folks and the more retreads the better.

  35. Don't blame Cliff Findlay for Kruger's inabilty to recruit superior talent. You have the best high school in the country 10 miles away and all you can get from it are: 1) a complete scrub and sorry excuse of a basketball player with the leaping ability of a statue (Massamba) and 2) a 190 pound center who can't bench press his own weight (Lopez). Lon Kruger is a lazy recruiter and is happy collecting his 7 figures annually while he has some fans brainwashed under the whole "remember how bad we were from 1992 until I got here" motto. Kruger supporters are settlers and don't believe UNLV can become a powerhouse again. You guys are the ones that aren't fans. You like to settle and Ryan Greene helps breed this mediocre culture by kissing Kruger's behind on every possible article, yet failing to mention his inability to take the team to another level.

    This is complete bs. UNLV will never be more than a top 50 program under this guy. All he wants to do is take leftover transfers that are basically castoffs from other school.

  36. Polee better be a Rebel by tonight.

    If not smart people are not going to be going to games to support a team that at best will be 3rd in the Mtn West next year and has no chance of getting passed the first or second round if they EVEN make the big dance.

    We are at a stand still folks. We will be good but not great. Kruger is a good coach, a good X's and O's guy. He just can't recruit. He can't get the best kids coming out of HS so he gets retreads.

    Krugers coahing skills will make us a good team but his recruting will keep us right where we are a "good team"

    UNLV NEEDS TO BE GREAT AND WIN NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT WITH RETREADS NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE COACHING IS.

    WE NEED A MIX OF RETREADS AND STOP SHELF PLAYERS COMING OUTTA HS! NOT JUST RETREADS. WE ARE GETTING MOSTLY RETREADS BECAUSE KRUGER CAN'T RECRUIT!

  37. "wait till next year" well today is last years "wait till next year" folks.

  38. Hoops = Sufferin' (formerly, RebNSoccer fan, but I think everyone knows that by now)

    I love this program and wear rose colored glasses, but it was a long shot to get CJ. That said, it was nice to be in the hunt and good to swing for the fences.

    Hope Polee decides to come here. Seems like the best place for him. However, would not be surprised if he went somewhere else with recent actions. But that decision does not make or break anything.

    Already have Glaze committed for the big 2011 class. Program was in a position to take some gambles this year.

    I'm OK with checking my ego at the door and bringing on more transfers. It has worked well and expect Quintrell Thomas will continue that trend this season. Would like to see Moser in a UNLV uniform. This is a great year for it too with so much depth returning.

    Like I heard someone say yesterday being upset that we might not get CJ or Polee - "So I guess we are just a Top 25 team that will only make an Elite 8 or Sweet 16 run every once in a while?"

    My how success changes perception. That was a LONG 15 years. U-N-L-V!!!

  39. Question: Will Butler also have a terrible future because they didn't land Corey Joseph? Should the Butler AD fire their coach because he, like Kruger, cannot land a Corey Joseph? Lets get real Rebel fans....it is tough to convince these players to refrain from going to the Big 12, Big East, and Pac 10 so that they can be highligted on "The Mtn" playing against the likes of Wyoming, Air Force, and Colorado State.

    Kruger is "building" on a foundation that does not include prime-time ESPN HD coverage, nor Bill Raftery on Saturdays in January....Kruger has taken us to the NCAA tourney 3 of last 4 years...and will take us the deepest we have gone in tournament since Tark next season....calm down

  40. Kruger will never get the superstars becasue he likes to play too many guys. Kruger lets his best players watch from the bench while walk on's with no talent gobble their mintues.

    The ceiling with Kruger is a top 25-35 team ...an 8 or 9 seed and a sweet 16 every 5 years. dont expect much out of next years team. the only hope for this program to turn around just commited to texas!

  41. These guys cant calm down because if they were not being negative and irrational they would have nothing to talk about. Best to let them have a conversation with each other.

  42. And can any of you please come up with a rational reason why not landing Joseph or Polee would be the end of UNLV basketball like you say? Polee is not a superstar, freak athlete, but not even top 100 recruit and would get marginal minutes next year if he came here?

  43. rebelwithacause

    quite: The ceiling with Kruger is a top 25-35 team ...an 8 or 9 seed and a sweet 16 every 5 years. dont expect much out of next years team. the only hope for this program to turn around just commited to texas!

    well put!

  44. "wait till next year" well today is last years "wait till next year"

  45. Polee will sign to play at Saint John's for Lavin.

    We don't need Moser from u c l a

  46. People act like Kruger is not recruiting stars, and is content with just taking transfers. The fact is, he DID recruit these guys, but he cannot MAKE them come here. There's only so much he can do, and ultimately it's up to the player.

  47. Polee is a good player but gettin to much hype. Everyone wants a solid player we don't have to wait on to mature,well that isn't polee. He is a great athlete but questionable basketball player. He is another lets wait and see if he turns out to be good player so it wouldn't be the worst thing if we didn't get him.

  48. Agreed unlvrunninrebels and Tarkus. I don't think either of these guys would have made us much better next year anyway. The Rebels have a packed rotation as it stands and adding two freshman to the mix would have likely upset the guys who have paid their dues for a big senior year run.
    Hopefully Kruger and co. will be able to bring in some good talent in next years recruiting class. This year he was playing with house money since we don't have any glaring needs.

  49. UNLV Basketball has a bright future, that said here are the reasons why we are not going to land top-10 talent:
    1. UNLV is still a commuter school (no fun for a big time athelete)
    2. Vegas is a great place to be, but most of what makes Vegas great exists only for people at least 21 years old
    3. UNLV is only known for its basketball program, nothing else. Academically, UNLV is in the bottom tier. Less than 1% of NCAA atheletes make the NBA, so the degree they receive provided its in a marketable major is VERY important. This makes the parents of recruits unhappy.
    4. A full scholarship to UNLV is not equivalent to the value of a full ride to St. Johns, so on paper its unequal.
    5. We play in the Mountain West, which until this past year has been continually undervalued by the NCAA selection committee, and is likely to be undervalued in the future based upon this year's achievements.
    6. Television coverage on the national level only comes 1-2 times a year during the regular season, we have to bank on making the tournement to get more exposure, unlike the ACC, BIG-10, Pac-10, SEC.
    7. Even in our local market of Las Vegas, there is a handful of Rebel's games that you cannot watch on Televison! That is in spite of running the gauntlet of paying a lot of money to have access to The Mountain, Versus, and CBS College sports.

    That said, we do have a buch of pros:
    1. Excellent stadium, cox pavillion, and soon to be practice facility.
    2. Lon Kruger - excellent resume and results
    3. It's Vegas baby.
    4. Playing time for everyone
    5. Recent UNLV players do make the NBA occasionally, Marion, Banks, Amundson, Anthony.
    6. UNLV Basketball is KING in Vegas.
    7. Prestige of the program (Final Four appearances, Nat'l champs)
    8. Prominent basketball events at UNLV facilities: NBA Summer league, Olympic team qualifiers, NBA all-star game a few years back.

    Now, if you've taken the time to read this long post heed this advise -- WE DONT WANT CORY JOSEPH OR OTHER TOP-10 RECRUITS!

    Listen to programs such as Kentucky-- These ONE AND DONE guys RUIN the program and over time they will not go anyhwere in the NCAAs.

    What we need is a few bigger, more athletic players like the kind SDSU recruits that knock our guys all over the floor with and keeps our guys out of the paint. Get some mid-level recruits, not so much transfers, that can improve to be excellent players by their sophomore to junior season and we can continually be competetive and maybe advance to the final four again.

  50. One and done players do not "ruin" a program, at least when it comes to results (which are important). In fact, all I saw was an Elite 8 run from a team stacked with them. Next year with mostly one and done players Kentucky will likely do the same or better. If you wouldn't take John Wall last year you are certifiably insane. That goes for any top 10 talent.

    The only scenario I could see them "ruining" the program is if sanctions start coming down. But all things equal, WE NEED top 10 talent. If not, we'll just have to hope for the perfect scenario to play out (i.e. Butler). Long suffering UNLV fans arent getting any younger.

  51. theplastic,

    quote: we don't have any glaring needs.

    How can you be happy with third place and one and done in the big dance? This and "wait till next year" is getting old fast.

    letsgorebs, nailed it!

    quote: You like to settle and Ryan Greene helps breed this mediocre culture by kissing Kruger's behind on every possible article, yet failing to mention his inability to take the team to another level.

    I like Kruger but than man can't get top talent coming out of HS and that's the bottom line..

    UNLV is a bunch of good transfers with a few good recruits mixed in. We need to be a bunch of great recruits with a few very good transfers.

    Kruger has taking the program about as far as he will. When you can't get top shelf recruits at best you'll have a good team and that's what we are period!

  52. To all the people who think we should magically be winning National Championships in 6 seasons under Kruger (only 4 with his guys) I have one thing to say: GET REAL!!!!! I can't believe how much time has changed these peoples "fish stories". All you IDIOTS seem to forget the best coach in our program's history won only 1 National Championship in 19 years of effort. He also spent 6 years at Long Beach St. and another 4 or so at Fresno St. So in about 30 years of coaching, Tark won a single championship, and went to 4 final fours. Why do all of you dreamers think that in 6 years Kruger should be winning National Championships? Tark didn't get his first one until 17 years with the same school. And didn't make his second Final Four appearence until somewhere around his 15 season with UNLV. It took Tark 15 years before we were on the level of making 3 Final Four appearences in 5 seasons. And just as long as it took for him to build it was as long as we toiled in TRUE mediocrity. You see, true mediocrity is making 2 NCAA tournaments in 16 years, with about 3 other chances missed by a combined 6 points (MWC and WAC Championship games). Going to 3 NCAAs in 4 years with a Sweet 16 appearence and a record matching defenisive effort in the first round against Kent St. is far from mediocre. There are 318 NCAA division 1 teams, and we have been in the upper half of the top 40 for the last 4 seasons. How about you guys get real with what, and where this program is. I'm almost postivie that these unrealistic "fans" weren't even fans 4 years ago. The attendance #s didn't exceed 10,000 in the Sweet 16 season until the Jan 13 BYU game if my memory serves me correctly. There were probably 10 games to that point where there were about 4,000-7,000 people in attendence. So all of you seat fillers, that marginally know this programs history and jumped back on board AFTER the 2007 season, please stop with your ignorant remarks. Get your facts together, and understand that Lon Kruger was never going to win a championship by his 6th season. Step one is to be a consistant NCAA tournament team, which we are. Step 2 is to consistantly be a Sweet 16 team, and so on. You guys are SO LAME TO LISTEN TO. You don't have the slightest clue about winning a YMCA U10 boys basketball game, let alone do what Kruger has done with what he took over 6 years ago.

  53. AND ALL OF THIS TOP 10 BS IS MAKING ME SICK!!!!! EVERYBODY WANTS LON TO BE TARK, BUT GUESS WHAT????? TARK DIDN'T RECRUIT TOP 10 TALENT. TARK GOT EXTREMELY ATHLETIC KIDS WITH TROUBLED PASTS OR ACADEMIC ISSUES. IN 19 SEASONS HE RECRUITED 3 HS ALL AMERICANS!!!! 3!!! STOP WITH THIS TOP 10 RECRUIT BULLSH**!!! TARK COULDN'T DO IT, WHY DOES EVERYBODY ASSUME KRUGER DOES!?!?!?!?!? JEEZ, YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A DAMN CLUE, DO YOU?! THE 2007 TEAM HAD 1 5 STAR PLAYER (WINK) AND 1 4 STAR PLAYER (Marcus Lawrence). NOW WE HAVE 3 ESPN TOP 100 PLAYERS ON THE ROSTER (DJ, MARSHALL and QT) AND I BELIEVE 6 RIVALS TOP 150 PLAYERS!!!!! BUT KRUGER DOESN'T RECRUIT RIGHT?!?!?!?! YOU GUYS ARE INSATIABLE AND EXTREMELY UNREALISTIC. I HOPE YOU LOSE SLEEP AT NIGHT ABOUT THIS, LOSERS!

  54. Jasper and Willis were both recruited heavily and offered scholarship by John Calipari when he was a coach at MEMPHIS. Chace Stanback was recruited by Ben Howland at UCLA that went to the Final 4 three straight years. Quintrell Thomas was recruited by Bill Self of KANSAS and Gary Williams of MARYLAND. Carlos Lopez was recruited by Bob Huggins of WEST VIRGINIA, Mark Few of GONZAGA, Rick Barnes of TEXAS and Jamie Dixon of PITTSBURGH. Anthony Marshall was recruited by Scott Drew of BAYLOR, Steve Fisher of SAN DIEGO STATE and Ben Howland of UCLA Grandy Glaze was recruited by Bob Huggins of WEST VIRGINIA and Gary Williams of MARYLAND.

    Are these recruits and transfers weak? I don't think so. Just look at the coaches that I mentioned that recruited UNLV players.

  55. I agree AJ_C, the greatest UNLV player was a transfer from Odessa JC. I can't remember an incoming freshman playing at UNLV that would have made a big difference in the team. I remember Stacey Augman playing quite a bit in his first couple years. Another question, all these complainers point out the deficiency in recruiting 4 and 5 star freshman, but complain about having transfers who were rated an 4 stars coming over as soph? Doesn't make sense to me.
    And please give me a break with the comparisons to BYU and Utah recruits. Of those two teams, neither have players that would be playing ahead of the UNLV players. Maybe Jimmer would get playing time, but most of those players are to slow afoot to play defense at UNLV. We constantly complain about KW poor defense and one demensionalism, imagine a whole team of them. Their is a reason we dominate BYU. The Utah games, admittedly was because we had even poorer inside presence then slow white goofs.

  56. Totally agree AJ_C. Thinking about the past 20 years, I love what Kruger has done and is doing. We'll always have the insatiable wack-jobs that don't realize that the rest of the town and a majority of the fans love their Runnin' Rebels. Especially considering the Bayno/Spoonhour years.

  57. I have been a follower of UNLV basketball since before the 1990 and 1991 seasons UNLV has a fabulous tradition of "Great basketball players" (Theus,Green,Banks,Hunt,Scurry,Anthony,Larry Johnson etc)there is absolutely no reason why the top recruits would not want to come here to play, this town loves basketball, great arena,history,climate growing campus etc...I have known Lon Kruger since he played at K-state, I like him, he is a straight guy..but..UNLV as a perpetual 8-9(high)seed in the NCAA's and bounced in the early rounds won't cut the mustard.... this team can't score and even execute plays when it counts and has trouble scoring 60-70 points against BYU or Utah or Air Force!! UNLV wants to and needs to be right up there with Duke and Syracuse and Florida and the top programs in the nation...thats the bottom line on UNLV basketball folks....the standards were set by Tark a long time ago and those banners will always be hanging up in the Thomas and Mack as a reminder!!!

  58. kckool11, I disagree about low scoring against BYU. UNLV-BYU game is always a good scoring game. Utah and Air Force likes to kill the shot clock the reason why UNLV always have a low scoring games against these two opponents and they also play slow-tempo like Princeton offense.

  59. Lots of crying on here. Kruger is doing a great job turning the program around from a school that had 10+ years of dormancy. Be a little patient for once. Kruger is getting UNLV back on the map winning games and players are actually starting to look to UNLV as a good spot to play. Do you actually think Joseph or Polee would have looked at UNLV before Kruger and the success we have had since he has been coach?

    Keep up the GREAT work Rebels players, staff, and Coach Kruger. The haters are fewer than the supporters and have nothing better to do than think they are experts and moan about something.

  60. The BYU/UNLV regular season home game this year was the absolute best game I've seen at the T&M since Tark left. The energy was incredible. The caliber of play was A+ and we were far from a "NIT caliber" team.

    The important things about the program under Coach Kruger are that we are clean, 100% clean with no hint of violations. Our kids give it their all and he is bringing the program's history back and embracing it.

    (Thank God we don't have to watch Chop trip over the arc or dump the ball out of bounds next year.)

  61. I must say I do like Nick Johnson alot. I think he can be as good as CJ. I believe he's a senior next year for Findlay. By then we will have some spots opening up at guard. Hopefully the timing will be right.

  62. Polee now to visit Oregon before making a decision. Says UNLV is still in the running!

    Dwayne Polee Jr., the City Section player of the year from state Division I champion Westchester, was scheduled to announce his college choice Saturday night at halftime of the Collision all-star game, but he said prior to the game he would not make an announcement after speaking to Oregon officials earlier in the day. He has set up a recruiting visit for Oregon on Friday.

    Oregon has apparently selected Creighton Coach Dana Altman to be its new coach, and he has gotten immediately involved in a last-minute bid for Polee.

    The 6-foot-7 Polee originally committed to USC four years ago as a freshman but opened up his recruiting after the resignation of Tim Floyd as Trojans coach last year.

    Georgia and Coach Mark Fox have made a strong bid for Polee, as have St. John's after the hiring of former UCLA Coach Steve Lavin. Polee said Saturday night UNLV is the other school that he continues to consider.

  63. Don't get me wrong I love Kruger. He's done miracles for the program. And by no means am I saying he should be fired. All im saying is that if we want UNLV to go to the next level (which im sure all of us do) maybe he's not the right guy. However, Id be willing to give him a couple of years to see if his recent sucess can translate to great recruiting, which in turn usually ends up with victories.

    I just dont see him bringing us to that Elite 8 and above status. I sincerely hope im wrong. I hope he completely suprises me next year.

  64. Blah, Blah, Blah... Another local kid passing on UNLV. I can't wait to see the day when the talent in Nevada in all sports ban together and say " We are Rebels through & through" Remember, blood is thicker than water...

  65. He is from CANADA not Las Vegas so he is not a local kid. AM was a local kid. Shabazz is a local kid. CJ has only been here 2 years and Tristan who commited to UT before going to Findlay and friend from the Canadian national team is also attending UT. Not much of a suprise if you think about it!

  66. If you've visited U of Texas, you'd know that deciding not to go there would be a very tough call for any young man. It's a great school with excellent sports programs and facilities, national exposure and an ungodly number of beautiful women. For a one-and-done guy like Joseph, it really is a no brainer. I know people don't like the Rebels being the bridesmaid, but in this case it really not that bad of an outcome.

    As for Polee, sounds like he changes his mind every time the wind blows. Do you want a kid that easily distracted (and charmed by Steve Lavin) on your team? I may be way off, but he seems to me like a kid that'll get you on probation.

    As for UNLV, the program is still a big year away (elite 8 type run) from closing on guys like Joseph. That big year could very well happen next year with the team's combination of talent and experience.

    And if transfers keep yielding kids like Willis and Stanback, keep 'em coming. Please.

  67. Polee may not be coming to UNLV most likely because his cousin the track star, Kenya Polee was kicked off the team and he found out UNLV's position on a pending lawsuit is that they 'owe no care to their students'. That sure would make me look elswshere for a school!