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Sue Lowden stands by health care bartering plan
Senate candidate Sue Lowden looks out the window while she and her husband Paul Lowden travel on her campaign bus to a Lincoln Day dinner in Minden Sunday, February 21, 2010.
Published Tuesday, April 20, 2010 | 3:39 p.m.
Updated Thursday, April 22, 2010 | 3:09 p.m.
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Democrats opened a new round of gleeful attacks as Sue Lowden, the Republican front-runner to unseat Sen. Harry Reid, again extolled the virtues of "bartering" for health care.
Lowden was recently the subject of late-night humor after saying health care costs would be lowered if health consumers paid with cash and bargained down prices with health providers. She called it "bartering," a term normally referring to a trade of one good or service for another.
Lowden defended her remarks Monday on the "Nevada Newsmakers" TV show.
"You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor, they would say I’ll paint your house," she said. "I mean, that’s the old days of what people would do to get health care with your doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people. I’m not backing down from that system."
The Reid campaign, which has for months focused its attacks on Lowden, sent out a statement with the subject line: "Has Sue Lowden Lost her Mind?"
Lowden, a wealthy casino owner, has occasionally veered off message since the campaign began. The latest slip threatens to make her appear out-of-touch, which is the very attack Republicans had hoped to use against Reid.
Still, Lowden can claim a healthy lead in polls against both Reid and Republican primary opponents.
Republicans have attacked the recently passed health care reform law as an intrusive, big government solution that won't cut costs and forces people to buy insurance against their will.
Robert Uithoven, spokesman for Lowden, responded: “If people want to see Sue Lowden’s plan, it’s been on the website since November, when Harry Reid was using Nevada taxpayer dollars to bribe other senators to support his health care plan Nevadans didn’t want.” He was referring to deals Reid engineered to help the home states of senators in return for their votes for the health care legislation. The deals were later rescinded.
Uithoven added: “We’re happy to debate Harry Reid about his vision for health care reform against our vision of health care reform. He hasn’t been here much in the past 30 years, and we’re happy to bring him around to doctors who are also small businessmen and businesswomen and have them explain to Reid how they negotiate lower prices to avoid insurance hassles and government-run health care.”
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Ms. Lowden may not have noticed, but it's not 1934. I don't have a chicken in my yard (zoning violation)and the one thing I do have to barter, I believe is illegal in Clark County.
Perhaps I should ask my doctor if I could mow his lawn or clean his toilet for my medical care?
I tend to believe that becoming a servant or a prostitute for the upper class doesn't improve my lot in life much. Perhaps she needs to speak to her pool boy about alternative services he might provide.
Does this mean she will take chickens in trade at her casino?
Ms. Lowden can barter with 50 million dollars in assets.
The minimum wage earner can barter with what?
Please everyone...
Leave the bartering for Harry Reid to do...
The last thing Nevada needs is a wealthy casino owner running for Senator. We know where her priorities will be focused, and it's not on us.
"Still, Lowden can claim a healthy lead in polls against both Reid and Republican primary opponents."
She may end up the front runner for the Republicans, but that lead against Senator Reid is at this moment steadily dwindling from that "chickens for checkups" comment.
I say stick a microphone in her face all the time. She'll say something else stupid and decrease that lead even more.
Why exactly do people think she will be good for Nevada? She's affiliated with casinos and she's a millionaire who's paying for her own campaign. This makes her good for the voters' interest in that she has something in common with us? No. She'll do that crony thing and suck up to the other rich people in Nevada for campaign funds. In turn, the middle class here will be destroyed even more than it is now. Not to mention that fact that if she gets voted in, she'll do stuff only for herself and her party..and not her constituents.
She can be a member of the Bachman-Pailin Overdrive if she keeps up with her dumb comments....
So if I bring my doctor a chicken, I can get a discount on my medical costs........wow, there's a savings.
Whats the going rate for a live chicken?
If I pluck and gut the chicken do my costs go down even farther!?!?!?!
Nice joke Lowden !!!
Sue Lowden and her husband will exploit every penny of they casino workers to expand they mansion and 401k __ Now they want to tell us what to do __ Greedy, Out of touch and stupid couple.
Sue Lowden is another greedy republican, out
of touch with the average American.
Harry Reid will easily win.
Harry Reid is promising a goat and a chicken in all pots of those who vote for him.
Sign up now to get yours.
And I do mean, you WILL get yours...
Bribe em Harry has never "veered off message" because he does not have one...
How many times has the LV SUN referred to Harry as:
"Reid, a wealthy politician..."
or:
"Reid, a wealthy land owner..."
or:
"Reid, a wealthy attorney..."
or...
Someone pushed Larry's buttons BIG TIME! So funny!
Man, I love it when they get all mad...
I wonder if anger management accepts chickens as payment?
I don't think anyone would accept edgewise as payment for anything...
Harry Reid helped make Obama president.
Harry Reid stopped Yucca Mountain.
Harry Reid got health care done.
What have greedy republicans got done lately?
Kind of a blow, isn't it, Lar?
She is D. U. M. B.
Go to the RJ for your fix of Anti-Harryisms, Lar.
They are PLENTYFUL!
btw...
Do we have 1 or 2 Senators from Nevada?
I feel "underrepresented".
Looks like three strikes to me teamster.
Poor Independent but would rather pay my own way.
I certainly hope not Larry, this isn't the stone age, after all! You might want to let your candidate know that, though.
I see you're resorting to personal attacks, now. You're as reliable as the setting sun every day.
It's 2010, and your candidate wants to go backward 100 years! Doesn't she know she wouldn't have the right to vote in the "olden days," too?
This is a talking point from the Sean Hannity Show, who claims that he paid a doctor in Santa Barbara by painting his office. She'll follow in the footsteps of Chick Heck, Mr. "Suppository"
Angry...
RICH ONES!!!
...AND angry rich ones!
Angry:
"This Tea Party supporter will vote for which ever of the Republicans who gets the nomination to run against Harry..." - LarryVegas
So to answer your question: yes, there are people who will vote for her no matter what she says, or how she represents herself or the citizens of Nevada. They don't care.
They just vote for the (R) on the ballot without thinking.
This woman is an idiot on par with Bachman and Palin.
Sue "bartering" Lowden is out of touch with the electorate and reality. Sad.
Sue "bartering" Lowden:
"You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor, they would say I'll paint your house," she said. "I mean, that's the old days of what people would do to get health care with your doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people. I'm not backing down from that system."
Suzy Lowdown is probably just a little confused. Since she's never had to worry about paying for her plastic surgery, she doesn't understand that many Nevadans have had a hard time paying the medical bills. Plus, let's not forget that the last time the Republican Party had any good ideas was some time in the 19th century.
Lowden is LOONEY!
Believe it or not there is some sense to what she says. Recently I needed an MRI on my right knee. When I asked the cost at the radiology center they told me ~$1500. When I told them I didn't have insurance and was paying cash, the price was reduced to ~$550. If I had insurance I could have saved them a lot of money by paying cash and being reimbursed.
My doctor is a vegetarian. Can someone ask Sue if she thinks I can barter with an eggplant?
Memo to the GOP: Epic fail. But no worries - you can try again in 2016.
Boy, I leave for just a few minutes to get a couple of beers and when I return, the entire left side of reality is out dancing in the streets with their "Harry Reid's Our Savior" signs...
Republican defense strategy 101. Politician says/does something:
a)ridiculously out of touch
b)patently false
c)sadistically cruel
d)all of the above
One would think the correct course of action would be to apologize, backpedal, claim misunderstood context, etc. But Republicans don't see it that way. For some reason they like to double down on the falsehood, absurdity, restroom encounter or whatever. Probably because they know the media will dutifully report both sides of the "controversy" as if they were equally serious.
I can see the Fox News ticker already:
Chickens for appendix removal?...Hannity examines why liberals are against real health care reform...
Whoever left the gate open so all of the lefty loons could get out, please round them back up and put them back in their cages...
Our local version of Marie Antionette's "Let them eat cake!"
I just don't get it.. If Sue Lowden is so much of an idiot, why is she sooooo far ahead of Harry Reid in the polls???
Oh, hey LarryV, How's the luv guv's morning Constitutional fund going? Didn't you tell everyone you were going to pick up the tab?
Why'd you lie to him (AND US) like that?
Let me reword my last statement...
If Sue Lowden is so much of an idiot, what is Harry Reid...
@LarryVegas
The way you are standing by Sue "bartering" Lowden's comments makes me wonder if, perhaps you own a chicken farm or something.
okry old friend...
You need to pay more attention to the news. The Governors special fund is now fully funded thanks to all of you lefties who keep mocking the Governor and us good Conservatives...
By the way, you don't and will never know how much I contributed to the fund. I tried to use the name of Harry Reid but I was told he had already contributed to the fund. Anything to buy a vote or two...
Harry bribes and barters to pass healthcare.
repubs protest.
Sue Lowden talks about bartering for healthcare
Dems send goats and chickens.
dems are inciting violence, unrest and turmoile.
difference is: repubs won't lower themselves to their level. I on the other hand, would like nothing more than to send Harry a big cow pie to represent all the vile crap he feeds us along with a box of big spoons, because the dems just eat it up.
No chicken farms for me, there westvegas, I am more into "ranching."
Get it??? Huh???
I think we should barbecue chicken and have a party,with long island ice tea. no coffee served.
lipton:
Are you sure that was an old goat? Maybe it was just Harry making a campaign stop.
Of course Harry would also be accompanied by a dozen or so of his fine feathered flock...
Great campaign idea...
Sue Lowden should sponsor a barbecue and serve barbecued chicken to her supporters.
Harry could then serve barbecued goat to his supporters...
Holy crap...don't know where to begin.
...it's official, Sue Lowden has come completely out of the crazy healthcare hen house and did not back down from her cows-for-colonoscopies, chickens-for-chest pains, sheep-for-schizophrenia "plan" to control medical cost by bartering with your doctor.
Needless to say, her idea is receiving plenty of national media attention.
Maybe if I were Fred Flintstone and lived in Bedrock this would make sense but...wow.
Wow...
Give it up Lar, we all know you aint on the list. Why do you constantly lie on these threads?
Gov. Potatohead is so disappointed.
It would seem this political candidate will do well in a Nevada election. Putting a pretty face on some ugly ideas will not hurt at all. Perhaps it is fitting that she shapes the retrograde future of Nevada. In a way we are already headed toward her ideal of a few rich casino ownwers and a million slaves to serve and build for them. No one will have any any rights. Nothing will be regulated (Not the casino for sure) And doctors offices will have small farms selling eggs and goats milk back to the huddled starving and sick masses for a tiddy profit. It will take little more than the little thrill of showing those elitist educated progressive liberals who is who in the voting booth to ensure that Nevada remains firmly at the sinking bottom and left behind as the country and the rest of the world move into the future.
Even better campaign idea: Try calling your doctor or lab with this cockamamie pitch. Record the response.
Jesus.
Can you imagine the future? President Palin shooting caribou from a helicopter to help people with their healthcare costs? Vice President Loudon providing a chicken in every pot to assist indigents to have a Happy meal?
Guys, and I mean guys, just because they are good looking and wear skirts doesn't mean they are managerial material. You're getting old, balding with a pot belly. Face it, it's time to grow up, and vote for someone that you don't dream about at night.
interesting as this all is, Sue Lowden never refered to using animals as a healthacre bartering tool.She used an example of barter from the old days. People barter all the time these days, for lots of things. Craigs list is notorious for bartering. It is a great tool. Dems are just up in arms because they didn't come up with the barter idea.They have gone way off the deep end. If this isn't running scared I don't know what is.I really hope someone at a rally, barbeques chicken for the people.
Hey Sue!
I have a chicken on the back stoop-could you get someone to look into my colon for me? THANKS!
Oh please, I would rip my manhood to vote Reid out of office, but IMO, Lowden amounts to nothing. This whole state will be messed if shes nominated.
Vote Tarkanian in the primaries.
system is totally corrupt when every election you get two losers to pick from. obama/mccain , reid/lowden----on and on mostly two favorites who will do nothing right. voting libertarian as usual with no chance to change this crap system.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Even the pseudo-patriots are having a tough time defending Marie Antoinette here.
How out of touch does is this person? How many levels of idiocy can she touch upon with one comment?
justme That MRI will be ultimately billed at a special rate for insurance companies behind the scenes. Blue Cross got $1500 of tests for $260 at a local clinic, they get deals, too.
BUT THEY DON'T TAKE CHICKENS!
LOL!
From 'lipton' -- best quote of the day:
"Dems are just up in arms because they didn't come up with the barter idea."
***
Excellent, lips. Please don't go away...ROTFLMAO!
Maybe one of you geniuses could please inform me what "name recognition" is worth to a candidate in a political campaign...
Maybe the last laugh will be on you.
Thank you very much...
dems ran with the critter thing. they didn't pay attention to any or all of her statement. its funny you should bring up Sarah Palin killing a caribou. when Obama announced some woman(forgot her name) he said, "and she's an avid hunter, in fact she's going Elk hunting this weekend, so stay away from her. I didn't hear one democrat slamming her or Obamas comment for that one. again, its only ok as long as a democrat is doing it.
Yeah it's interesting, Lipton. Funny too that Craigs list has plenty of hookers--yet no doctors.
Wonder why?
funny as your comment is, who here would go to a doctor from craigs list. again, an example of barter and taken totaly out of context.not everything on craigs list is barter, but some people there will barter. checking out hookers on craigs list are you? maybe you could barter down the price. I hope you guys are smarter than you post here.common sense isn't a strong suit is it?
Name recognition?
Oh, sweet jeebus, we really are heading towards Idiocracy. All she needs to say next is "... cuz it's got electrolytes."
Bottom line is that Lowden talked about trading chickens for medical care. Those are her words and this is a huge gaffe.
She was speaking honestly and will be beat over the head for it.
Repeatedly.
Bye bye, Susie. Your fifteen minutes of fame are up.
Brad, I am surprised that you stooped to that level of response. You and I disagree politically to some degree, but I don't think I have ever seen you offer platitudes as rebuttal.
In reality, a person who pays cash will often pay 50% or more less than what the bill would be if presented to an insurer. What's up with that?!? I have done this myself on occassion when I was without insurance.
In my opinion, the real problem is that care providers, or rather the corporations that run clinics and hospitals, will jack up prices to insurance companies because they say to themselves "the patient isn't paying for this, so get as much as the insurance will pay".
This woman is a blithering idiot. Worse than the barter idea is her idea that we should BEG from our doctors.
What a miracle.
IS this the person you want representing us? She seems totally out of touch with "normal"people.
"Oh help me please doctor, I'm damaged."
baaahaaa, cock-a-doodle-doo, mooo
The way it was is not what Sue presents. Folks would show up at the doctor's house at Christmas with baked goods and treats and homemade trinkets. Whiskey and warm hearts filled the room by the fire. The actual bartering was less 'deal or no deal' and more 'all in the family.'
I really don't expect Sue to get her arms around this notion, but there was a sense of mutual respect and joy in heppin the other feller that nobody even knows about in these times.
It wasn't about walnuts for wellness. It was about a feeling of respect that one could find in one's own life being swapped for something one needed and it gratified the soul in ways Sue probably doesn't understand too well because of her unforunate circumstances in life.
by the time democrats are through taking all our paychecks in taxes, all we'll have left to pay for a doctor visit or anything else is a flippin chicken.I really think Harry was telling us something, while he's laughing all the way to the bank
@lipton
If you pay cash for something it isn't barter, barter means trade.
she's even dumber than i thought...
she's an absolute idiot...
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haa haa haa...
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I got a pair of pink flamingos...
Everyone better wake up and vote for Harry Reid. We cannot afford to send an out of touch, empty suit to washington. Senator Reid is the highest ranking Senator. What kind of influence will Lowden have in Washington. Can you imagine. We would have Lowden and Ensign in washington. We might as well have no one in washington representing us.
ThisOneGuy, Lowdens comment was:
health care costs would be lowered if health consumers paid with cash and bargained down prices with health providers.
you are correct. after the dems took off with the "barter" chicken, goat thing,I got caught up on the "barter" thing myself.Thanks. ugly natured,nasty,stupid people get to me.
"ugly natured,nasty,stupid people get to me."
Isn't that what t-bag events are all about. Ugly natured, nasty, stupid people...
You forgot narrow minded, overweight, past their prime, knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, buffet hogging, neanderthals.
are you all idiots? she did not literally mean that she expects people to show up to a doctor's house with a chicken. however, why does every complain about having to pay for healthcare? it's ridiculous. doctors deserve compensation. and there are things that could be bartered - paint someone's house, cook some meals for their family, offer to babysit, ..., if you can't think of anything that you are able to give back in return for someone helping you, then you are probably lazy and selfish. again, people are getting caught up on something dumb here and taking things out of context. get over yourselves.
Having Ensign and Lowden in the Senate together representing us sorta leaves us unrepresented.
They got their agendas. What about us?
So much hate from the boys on the left. Their team is in trouble and they know it...
Let me go check the polls and see if Harry Reid has gained any on Sue Lowden................................................................
Nope... Harry is still way down there...
also-- xenophobic, paranoid, snuggie blanket wearing, fema camp worrying, gun-kook, racist dolts, barely literate end timers.
What a laugh, larry.
The right-wingers already lost.
You guys still can't believe it.
This is a blue state now, you guys are done.
If okra could not name call, okra would be a loss for words...
okra forgot democrats on the end of his post. fits perfect.
Don't forget...
If the election was today Sue Lowden would get 47 percent of the vote compared to Harry Reid who would come in a distant second with 37 percent of the vote.
That is, LarryVegas, if you believe an R-J poll.
As for Ms. Lowden ... the R-J's retrograde editor, Tom Mitchell, claimed to be satirical when he said the 19th Amendment should be repealed. If someone really wanted to make that argument, she would provide a magnificent Exhibit A, at least in Nevada.
Now matter how much lipstick you put on Harry Reid, he is still going to lose the election.
Larry, they can't communicate without nasty comments.
teamster, thats funny because Harry bribed the super delegates to get the democratic votes.
Nevada is blue through dishonesty.
and then theres Acorn and Mickey Mouse.
offer to babysit?
cook meals?
Does that mean we all have to learn how to prepare curry dishes!!!
Sounds unAmerikin to me.
JUST IN!
Las Vegas- The Sue Lowden for Senate campaign is requesting that donations for her election bid be paid with chickens or other "critters" instead of US currency.
"Just to prove I stand by my earlier statement that medical care can be had for an egg-laying hen", said Lowden, "I'm asking that all future donations to my campaign be made in the form of chickens or some other type of common farm animal. Donating your critters to the Lowden campaign will help me defeat the out-of-touch Harry Reid."
Democrats have become more like a pack of junk yard attack dogs these past few months.
Name calling, demonizing, marginalizing and patronizing have become the standard practice of the far left who have taken over the once proud Democratic Party...
Larry
If you were any more full of it we'd have to cart you off to a sewage treatment plant.
Teabaggers/GOP/right-wingers invented slander,
LastThroes, prove that statement.
@LastThroes
hahahaha!
That pig farmer up in NLV prolly just found out how rich he is. Move on over casino moguls, real men git thar with hogs.
Lowden has a long history, and most Nevadans are still in the dark when it comes to her awful management style. Her embarassing campaign gaffes will only add to the trouble that can be found in her business dealings...
"Sue Lowden loves to tout her business record as the chief reason she's qualified to represent Nevada during these difficult economic times, stating just last week that "what separates me is I am a businesswoman." However, if her track record as a casino executive is any reflection of her approach to our state's economy, Nevada families would be in serious trouble."
"As vice president of Santa Fe Gaming Corporation (SFGC), Lowden ran the company into the ground."
"Under her leadership, SFGC had only one year in the 1990s when the company didn't end up in the red. In fact, the only profitable year in the entire decade came in 1996, when Lowden sold off her flagship property, the Sahara Casino and Hotel."
"That was only the beginning of Lowden's fiscal incompetence. SFGC was forced into bankruptcy only a few years later when it failed to meet its financial obligations, a junk bond payment worth $60 million that carried a 13.5% interest rate. In order to make payments under the court-ordered restructuring, Lowden's company ended up jettisoning the Santa Fe Casino."
"After a decade of Sue Lowden's business "expertise," the Santa Fe Gaming Corporation was de-listed from the stock exchange in 1999 because it no longer met the guidelines to be listed."
From ThisisReno.com
Bartering is illegal, unless declared as income on your taxes. Sounds like Lowden is encouraging tax evasion for Doctors.
The Canada Free Press had the following to say about Harry Reid:
"His history shows a pattern of ignoring the voters, hostility to business and indifference to education. In order to be worthy of his support you have to either be willing to contribute massive amounts of cash, a fan of the socialist agenda or an enemy of the ideal of American Sovereignty."
Even the Canadians have Harry figured out...
"Democrats have become more like a pack of junk yard attack dogs these past few months."
Whereas you have accused the President of the United States of offering a judicial appointment in return for a yes vote on the health care reform bill -- without a single piece of evidence to support the accusation -- and refuse to disavow that accusation when it was revealed the legislator voted 'no!'
I'd rather be an "attack dog" than an unrepentant liar.
I'd vote for my dog if he was running against Harry Reid.
It has been said of ksand99 and his pal edgewise by a well informed poster to this discussion site:
"The other two leftists that continually attempt to harrass Larryvegas are employed to re-elect Harry Pinko Reid to his senate seat. Both of them are clones of the radical Marxist-Democratic-Anarchist party."
ksand99 is a liar and has zero credibility.
The garbage that he "cites" comes straight from Harry Reid campaign website and not from any news site.
He distracts people from fooling (key word fool) into thinking that he is quoting some obscure website called, ThisReno.com.
The material is really lifted from the Harry Reid campaign pages and the contents are a news release from Harry Reid's staff.
Only an idiot would believe any thing that ksand99 types.
He now stands naked and it is not a pretty sight.
http://www.harryreid.com/ee/index.php/ne...
Yep, Harry Reid is still trailing Sue Lowden...
FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Incumbents may want to take note:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is trailing the Republican front-runner in Nevada by double digits.
The Mason-Dixon poll conducted for the Las Vegas Review-Journal shows Republican Sue Lowden getting 47 percent of the vote... compared to 37 percent for Reid. The poll also includes a slate of third-party and other candidates, who get very little backing.
Reid has been in trouble in his home state for awhile now. His campaign had always argued that the presence of third party candidates distorted the real picture. Reid claimed when the election was held these minor party candidates would split the vote and he would still win.
But this poll suggests adding the minor candidates into the mix doesn't really "bleed support" away from the Republican. Experts suggest voters rarely choose third-party candidates in closer races with high stakes... because they don't want to throw away their vote.
Reid's people still sound confident that the senator can win a fifth term - what else are they gonna say. Another recent poll shows the senate majority leader with an unfavorable rating of 56 percent in Nevada. The people in his own state can't stand him.
And it's not just Reid who might be in trouble. People are increasingly angry about their government and are likely to take it out on incumbents come November. Let's hope they do.
Here's my question to you: What message does it send to incumbents if Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid is trailing by double digits in his home state?
I do believe that SgtRock is correct in his opinion of ksand99.
ksand99 is the master of double talking. He has nothing to say but twists and turns like a weasel that is about to caught by a fox.
ksand99 deliberately disguises and distorts the truth to fit into his nonsense that he is trying to spin.
And now we find out that ksand99 is just a mouth piece for the "Reelect Harry Reid" campaign...
okra
Is there a full moon tonight or did the teabaggers spike their kool-aid with LSD?
Larry, lips and the whole crazy crew are out in force defending the barter-with-chickens candidate.
LOwdown puts her foot in her mouth then her minions lose balance and start stepping in it.
While candidate Sue Lowden gains support of Nevada voters, Harry Reid's unfavorably has increased five points from the previous month to 53 percent of Nevadans who have an unfavorable opinion of the Senator.
ksand99
Don't forget, Larry also lied about picking up the tab for the luvGuv. He said he'd pay the 3500 smackeroos right away. "Git er done," I believe, is the (way past its prime) phrase that he used.
Let me see, should I vote for:
bartering for health care by Sue Lowden...
or
Bribing with taxpayer money by Harry Reid...
I think I will vote with the majority of Nevadans for Sue Lowden...
http://thisisreno.com/2010/04/opinion-lo...
It was a piece printed on thisisreno.com, just like I said. There's the link. Try not to choke on it.
Funny, neither you nor Larry could refute a single part of that press release, yet you choose not to believe it.
Also funny, Larry claims "Canada" thinks Reid is horrible, yet he's quoting Bob Beers. You know Bob Beers, Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock, you used to hang around his website posting fawning comments all over it.
That was back when you were posting under "jfnance32," though...
Your lies are exposed, Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock.
It has been said about LarryVegas by a well-informed poster on this website:
"From his Republican apologist balderdash, to his counterfactual insistence of rewriting recent history, to his constant defamatory persecution of other members of the Sun's community, LarryVegas continues to insult and offend any person who questions his narrative. In the ancient days of the internet, I believe the terminology for this behavior was "trolling." I think it brings down the discourse and stifles the free flow of ideas."
Kinda says it all, doesn't it?
Much to the dislike of the Liberal elitists, Governor Gibbons "Got er Done!!!"
Nevada is a blue state.
You right-wingers are going to have to move
to Arizona or Utah.
We blue state people want Harry Reid.
Yup, I see Rock's coming in with the flank attack. Meanwhile Larry's desperately searching the intertubes for another "poll."
What's next Larry, a poll from the 700 Club?
"Don't forget, Larry also lied about picking up the tab for the luvGuv. He said he'd pay the 3500 smackeroos right away. "Git er done," I believe, is the (way past its prime) phrase that he used."
Yeah he did, didn't he?
He also lied about me, saying I had a comment removed within the last few weeks, which isn't true, either.
Again, I'd rather be an "attack dog" than someone who uses racist language like "oriental" to describe Asian people like he does...
And here comes the personal attacks from ksand99 in his attempt to shut up those who have a different political opinion then Liberal ksand99.
At least I don't work for any candidate or political organization...
no thanks to you,
huh, Larry.
Please don't forget...
If the election was today Sue Lowden would get 47 percent of the vote compared to Harry Reid who would come in a distant second with 37 percent of the vote.
So how 'bout it Larry, Nance/Rock, CAN you refute any of the statements from the link ksand99 put up?
I'll wait.
Hey larry, The election is in November.
That's when Harry will win.
You will be waiting a long time there okra. I hope you are not holding your breath...
I don't answer to you, ksand99 or any political candidate...
Are you still holding your breath, there okra???
ksand99 is trying to do back flips to get away with his massive goofup.
Go to his citation from a serious unbais news source (OMG...LOL).
http://thisisreno.com/2010/04/opinion-lo...
In big bold letters it says..... "SUBMITTED RELEASE FROM FRIENDS FOR HARRY REID"
Good ....fully qualified quote there.
The icing on the cake is that actully comes from a news release from a Harry Reid PAC that got over $6,000,000 million from mostly out-of-state contributions.
So there.....now you see the fraud that Ksand99 is.
Either is a total fake or he has a weak brain and can't find decent good material to cite from.
Keep holding your breath there okra until you begin to turn blue...
Another couple of minutes there okra...
Just a little while longer there okra...
I think that okra just might make it...
"What's next Larry, a poll from the 700 Club?"
lol! Larry is definitely on something.
Sue Lowdown's healthcare chicken comments has all the teabaggers running in circles like chickens with their head cut off.
Too funny!
I hope okra is not still holding his breath waiting for me to answer his silly question...
Jay Leno will be on soon.
I'm sure he and the other late night comics will have some new Lowdown chicken material.
I am getting worried about okra. Maybe holding his breath so long has made him light headed and less than rational...
I think the okra is gone... Harry will have to replace him with another one of Harry's stooges...
The LastThroes can't be all bad if he watches "Jay Leno."
That is, unless he tells us he also watches "The View."
Sue Lowden rivals Gov. Gibbons as the greatest Republican politician since Abe Lincoln. Soundbites from Sue are the new Gettysburg address. Yes, real Americans do barter. For example, Doug Hampton bartered his wife to Senator Ensign in exchange for lucrative jobs and $96,000. Now Doug can put that money in a medical savings plan. This is the kind of "can do" spirit that Republicans have ... they don't wait around for Uncle Sam to give them $96,000.
Many teabagger stooges are here today.
Does Sue Lowden barter for her medical services? How many complementary shrimp cocktails and well drinks from her casino to the doctors does it take for a mammogram?
I don't remember... Was Harry Reid bartering for votes or was he bribing for votes???
"That is, unless he tells us he also watches "The View.""
Racism, misogyny... Larry's on quite the roll...
I'm still waiting for a factual refutation of the facts I posted. The intellectual impotence of republicans like LarryVegas and Sgt James F Nance Jr Rock is apparent!
Little boys can't hide behind lies and rhetoric when presented with facts...
So "the Santa Fe Gaming Corporation" was not "de-listed from the stock exchange in 1999"?
And "the only profitable year in the entire decade came in 1996, when Lowden sold off her flagship property, the Sahara Casino and Hotel," Is not true?
What about "the SFGC was forced into bankruptcy only a few years later when it failed to meet its financial obligations"? Is that not true as well?
Ad Hominem? That's all you got?
"Ad Hominem? That's all you got?"
Intellectual impotence is rampant within the republican party, I hear...
Let's not forget the hundreds of thousands of dollars the Lowdens gave themselves after laying off employees from their casino.
Some of their money was donated to Reid's campaign, I hear... I wonder if that was some of the funding that went to the Friends of Harry Reid!?!
Did Lowden fund the opposition research that's uncovering her poor business record?
Who ever said the republicans weren't that bright?
Uh huh, true enough, robwhitetrash, Doug Hampton bartered the wifey for 96 large. That's the kind of people that made Las Vegas what it is today.
What should I do? Should I vote for:
bartering for health care by Sue Lowden...
or
Bribing with taxpayer money by Harry Reid...
I think I will vote with the majority of Nevadans for Sue Lowden...
Glory be... The okra is still with us. Maybe he found the answer to the question that he was looking for...
More personal attacks from ksand99.
Sue wanted to tax DEAD VETERANS!
"Veterans are saying they have had enough of Lowden's anti-veteran track record. Her opposition to the Recovery Act that would aid disabled vets during the recession, and her proposal for a 'Veterans Death Tax' has those who served angry. "
"We believe that as combat vets that we are owed an apology. We served -- Sue, you did not see enemy fire," said Andrew Guy, a Gulf War combat veteran.
"The group says regardless of when an individual served, they need a senator like Reid who will honor them in death and not tax their loved ones."
Watch the report here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tsS5AlV4...
(lovingly archived to Youtube by the Reid campaign, of course!)
Larry, do you support Sue's vile plan to tax dead veterans?
Somebody enlighten me. I just don't get it...
If Sue Lowden is so much of an idiot, why is she so far ahead of Harry Reid in the polls???
It is common fact that Rush Limbaugh barters for his viagra and vicodin and saves big bucks. In fact, he barters with multiple doctors for multiple prescriptions and so saves by buying in bulk. Then, he barters with his maids and house boys to pick up his meds on street corners. Mega-dittos, Rush.
Never heard of "Andrew Guy" and I am sure he does not speak for all veterans.
More vile rhetoric from the far left of society...
I am still confused? Should I vote for:
Bartering for health care by Sue Lowden...
or...
Bribing with taxpayer money by Harry Reid...
I am still thinking that I will vote with the majority of Nevadans for Sue Lowden...
At one time, well before the general election, McCain was ahead of Obama.
In a USA Today poll just two months before the election, McCain was up by 10 points! I think it was right after McCain picked Sarah Palin as his V.P. nomination.
Then, as you know, people got to know Sarah and they abandoned McCain's campaign in droves. Gotta love Sarah!
Many things can change, Larry. That's why smart people don't trumpet general election polls FIVE MONTHS before the actual election, brainiac.
Seems to me, people are over the "we should run Government like they run business" spiel. Savings and Loans, tech bubble, real estate bubble, Wall Street crashes the world economy. Eight years of the MBA at the helm.
Do they think we're really that stupid?
So much hate from the Liberals on the left. Their team is in trouble and they know it...
So Larry, do you support Sue Lowden's vile plan to tax dead veterans?
You would vote for that?
"Bribing with taxpayer money by Harry Reid..."
More baseless allegations from Larry. Like when Larry accused the President of the United States of offering a judicial appointment in return for a yes vote on the health care reform bill -- without a single piece of evidence to support the accusation -- and refuse to disavow that accusation when it was revealed the legislator voted 'no!'
Larry can't stop lyin'!
A recent Mason-Dixon poll shows Republican Sue Lowden getting 47 percent of the vote... compared to 37 percent for Reid.
Wow... Sue Lowden is leading by 10 percentage points...
Bribing Senators with taxpayer money by Harry Reid is not a baseless allegation unless you work for Harry Reid...
So Larry, it appears you support Sue Lowden's vile plan to tax dead veterans.
Why would you would vote for that?
"Lib team is in trouble and they know it"
--Larry (Baghdad Bob) Vegas
I think bartering is brilliant. Lowden should have been there to take part in the development of the healthcare plan. No wonder she is ahead in the polls. It's innovative thinkers like Lowden that we are missing in this country. I'm good at baking homemade bagels, probably the best in Vegas. Who the hell needs health insurance with a talent like mine? Why stop there? We should get rid of fiat money altogether. Roll out the goats, bagels and chickens!
It is not surprising that Sue Lowden is favored to win over Harry Reid.
There have been 30 different polls dating back to late 2008 and every one of them has Reid losing the election to anyone...
Sue loves to give tours of Yucca Mountain...
Sue wants to barter with nuclear waste:
"Fresh from their tour of Yucca Mountain earlier this month, Republican Party leaders are turning up the volume on their calls for Nevadans to reconsider the proposed nuclear waste site as a possible salve for the state's budget woes."
"Republican state Chairwoman Sue Lowden led 60 members of the party's Central Committee on the Dec. 12 tour of Yucca Mountain, about 100 miles northwest of Las Vegas. "
"If Yucca Mountain cannot be killed, Nevada could find itself with nuclear waste and no benefits "we might be able to negotiate for if we would only come to the table," Lowden said."
http://www.lvrj.com/news/36721634.html
One reason that Sue Lowden leads Harry Reid in the polls is that only 70% of Democrats support Reid...
In an Associated Press article titled, "State urged to drop nuclear waste battle ," it says Sue Lowden wants to 'negotiate' for nuclear waste.
"In December, Nevada Republican Party Chairwoman Sue Lowden touted the dump's financial potential after leading 60 members of the party's central committee on a tour of Yucca Mountain, 90 miles northwest of Las Vegas."
"Lowden said the repository could help solve Nevada's financial crisis, and the state should consider negotiating for federal benefits for accepting it."
http://www.lvrj.com/news/39279332.html
Larry, do you support dumping nuclear waste in Nevada?
Democrats are to busy working to get on larry's
polls.
They'll come out in November and keep Harry in
office. No problem.
Another reason that Sue Lowden is ahead of Harry Reid is because Lowden beats Reid 49% to 27% in support from Independent voters.
But teamster... Only 70% of Democrats support Harry Reid. He just can't win will lousy numbers like that...
We've got five months and plenty of time to uncover Sue's terrible business record and her long history of being weak on Yucca Mountain, Larry.
And as long as she continues sticking her foot in her mouth like with this asinine "bartering" health care plan, her election prospects will dim faster than your enthusiasm for Sarah Palin.
Larry, the poll you're quoting has a margin of error of 6 points for subgroups.
Do you need a lesson on polling accuracy? A 6 point margin of error is absurd!
Next you'll be quoting crazy internet polls!
How crazy has the Republican party become? Michele Bachmann is convinced Bill Clinton wants her dead.
Really.
http://gawker.com/5520260/michele-bachma...
"The Minnesota congresswoman is a lot smarter than Sarah Palin, and a bit crazier, placing her not far from Glenn Beck in the "crazy/stupid/dangerous matrix" we have constructed in our head. So it's not surprising that she's borrowing a page from Glenn Beck's "charismatic cult leader" handbook."
I am still confused. Should I vote for:
Bartering for health care by Sue Lowden...
or...
Bribing with taxpayer money by Harry Reid...
I am still thinking that I will vote with the majority of Nevadans for Sue Lowden...
A 6 point margin of error???
Oh, that means that Sue Lowden may be ahead of Harry Reid by 16% instead of 10%...
The egg that hit the Tbag bus was a contribution. Call ou the FBI!
Sue Lowden's immigration and border security policy begins by not supporting amnesty, but rather enforcing the current federal laws...
Harry Reid's immigration policy is to give amnesty to any illegal who will vote for him. Harry Reid has had no border security policy for the past 23 years that he has been in the Senate...
Yes, for the blind and ignorant: a 6-point margin of error indicates that the poll is not accurate, especially when the pool is small, as in the poll you're quoting.
You need to be a little more discerning in the polls you're quoting, Larry. Right now it just seems like you're desperate to paint Lowden as the front-runner.
But I keep forgetting that you like to quote any old internet poll that you can find via a Yahoo search, so I'm probably talking to a wall, here.
Hey, Did you miss it?
Yesterday, Sue Lowden commented that three years ago Harry Reid turned his back on U.S. soldiers by saying that the Iraq war was lost. I wonder if old Harry feels that way today?
And there is more about why Harry is trailing Sue...
His favorability numbers are dismal. 54% of people have an unfavorable view of him, while only 33% view him favorably.
The Iraq war was a bush and cheney lie.
Everyone knows that now.
Harry called bush a liar and he was right.
Low down Lowden strikes again, spinning Harry's words!
FACT CHECK:
"On April 19 and 20, numerous print and television media outlets reported that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) had said that "the [Iraq] war is lost" during a press conference discussing Congress' standoff with President Bush over emergency funding for the war. However, these outlets did not also report that, later during the press conference, Reid added that "the war, at this stage, can only be won diplomatically, politically, and economically."
"Other news outlets reporting on Reid's statement -- for example, Agence France-Presse and Reuters -- noted Reid's further comments. Moreover, during a speech on the Senate floor the same day, Reid reiterated his stance, advocating a "political solution" in Iraq and asserting that "there is still a chance to change course."
"During his April 19 press conference, Reid said that the Iraq war "is lost" and later stated that the day before, he had told President Bush "what he needed to hear" about the war. He then said that the only way the war could be won is "diplomatically, politically, and economically"
Reid also said, "As long as we follow the President's path in Iraq, the war is lost. But there is still a chance to change course and we must change course. No one wants us to succeed in the Middle East more than I do. But there must be a change of course. Our brave men and women overseas have passed every test with flying colors. They have earned our pride and our praise. More important, they deserve a strategy worthy of their sacrifice."
Larry's being dishonest again!
Democrats just love to call people "liars" and any other name they can come up with to demonize those with different political views...
How can anyone spin "the war is lost" into anything but what was said...
Sue Lowden is correct in saying that Harry Reid turned his back on our fighting men...
ksand99 must be getting his talking points direct from Harry this evening...
Hey, have I told you lately that a recent Mason-Dixon poll shows Republican Sue Lowden getting 47 percent of the vote, compared to 37 percent for Reid.
Let me see... 47 minus 37 equals 10...
Wow... Sue Lowden is leading Reid by 10 percentage points...
During the Vietnam War, Sue Lowden volunteered with the USO and spent months touring and entertaining our troops with Bob Hope.
On February 17, 2007 Senator Reid calls Iraq war a worse mistake than Vietnam.
Thanks Harry. Not only did you turn your back on our Iraq veterans, you also turned your back on Vietnam veterans...
I am still waiting for some help...
Should I vote for:
Bartering for health care by Sue Lowden...
or...
Bribing with taxpayer money by Harry Reid...
I am still thinking that I will vote with the majority of Nevadans for Sue Lowden...
Today's TPM Polltracker Average:
A matchup between Reid and Lowden, shows Lowden leading Reid 52.1% to 38.2%.
Frankly, you could take the corpse from "Weekend at Bernie's" and run it against Harry Reid and it would win. The LV Sun's attempts at propping up Harry will have less success than they did in the movie with Bernie.
Larry/Lipton,
I agree bartering for your health care is a great idea. Let's start the experiment with both of you, and check the results in a couple of months. Prescriptions too.
Come on Sue, kindly let the barter scheme disappear and move on! Bartering seems to work fine only for the illegals . They have a built in social contract with the welfare state that they occupy and steal from.
Let's hear from some Doctors...
Whaddya need?
200 comments and 65 are from LarryVegas, desperately trying to change the subject from Lowden's blunder to Reid!
He's on the run!
Question: Which came first? The chicken or the egg?
Tea Baghead: "It don't matter what came first because it's all a communist nazi plot to get bigger government, spend like crazy and take away my Medicare! Anyways, that terrible cabal/regime of Obama/Reid/Pelosi is trying to force us to eat fried chicken and scrambled eggs and I'm sorry, but I'm not bowing to any oriental chicken, I'm an American, gosh darn it, and you'll have to attack me with eggs and pry my AK-47 assault weapon I use to hunt squirrels out of my dead, cramped hands before I'll talk to a scum sucking socialist, teleprompter reading, Obamacare loving lefty chicken! You can tell they're liberals by the way they look at you and scratch in the dust and stuff and Ms. Sue Lowden was right to trade them suckers in for checkups! Mr. Glenn Beck was right too when he connected eggs with progressives mixed with that global warming nonsense! It's all a socialist communist nazi plot and you gotta watch 'em like a hawk all the time....."
Morale to the story? It never ends.....
I am still waiting for some assistance...
Should I vote for:
Bartering for health care by Sue Lowden...
or...
Bribing with taxpayer money by Harry Reid...
I am still thinking that I will vote with the majority of Nevadans for Sue Lowden...
SERIOUS QUESTION:
How many "Larrys" does it take to make "LarryVegas"?
Don't ask me... Ask Henderson or Mia...
is sue lowden dumber than sarah palin???
is that possible???
sure seems like it!!!
Barter for medical care? Just what was a rich casino owner thinking? This is not the 1920's or 30's, this is the 21st century and there are many who need health care and not only cannot afford insurance, but probably do not hve a cow or a horse for barter. I am an old lady with nothing to barter, except my body and believe me whe I say no doctor will even be interested. Senator Reid has consistently delivered for Nevada, including health insurance coverage for thousands, under the newly passed health care reform. And what have the Republicans done - NOTHING! They are the party of nay sayers with nothing positive to contribute. Enough all ready. Let us keep Harry in Washington, as he is the one who brings home the chicken and helps families to afford the pot.
Let me see. What do doctors want that will motivate them into bartering?
Well, the last I heard they really like money, sex and jaded diversions. So, I need to come up with some really creative diversions to barter with them, since I'm broke, and my sexual prime expired some time ago.
Oh, wait, I got it. Ta-dah!!! Let's pose the bartering idea to doctors, and see then if they are interested in voting for Sue Lowden, the bartering advocate. If THEY won't vote for her, why would you or I?
Old Sue Lowden had a farm,
Ee i ee i oh!
And on that farm she had some chickens,
Ee i ee i oh!
With a check-up,
And a check-up there
Here a check-up , there a check-up,
Everywhere a check-up
Old MacDonald had a farm
Ee i ee i oh!
So, who are you going to vote for?
Bartering for health care by Sue Lowden...
or...
Bribing with taxpayer money by Harry Reid...
Inquiring minds need to know...
She so reminds me of Don Henley's song, "Dirty Laundry" when she read the news on Channel 8, years ago.
"We got the bubbleheaded bleach-blonde, comes on at 5 She can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye."
WOW! I wonder did she barter her brain power for good looks. Back in the olden days, that is. Not a good look for the Repugnant base, but thank the good Lord above the elections aren't held today because this needs to "marinate".
Lowden should kick politics to the curb and follow her heart into comedy.
Team Leno!
The following is what Sue Lowden actually said:
"I think that bartering is really good. Those doctors who take cash, you can barter and that would get prices down in a hurry, and I would say go ahead out and pay cash for whatever your medical needs are. And go ahead and barter with your doctor."
Yes you can barter with a medical doctor just as you can with a dentist and others in the medical profession.
I bet a good percentage of us who don't have dental insurance barter with their dentists.
I know I have on several occasions arranged to pay by check up front to get a lower price on my dental work. My wife just received a dental implant and I was able to get a lower price by paying in full when the work was completed...
Well, Larry darling, it's not that easy. I work in the healthcare industry directly with patient care and "bartering" is just another term the repugs use to let the insurance companies off the hook. No doctor I know is gonna barter for services, I mean really how many times can you have your house painted in one year? I mean really.....
Main Entry: barter
Pronunciation: \bar-tr\
Function: verb
: to trade by exchanging commodities (goods) without money.
I'm gonna give Sue, the benee of the doubtee and say she used a poor choice of words to demonstrate her point. She could come up smelling rosy if she "repealed and replaced" her ignorant stance on health care reform.
How many chickens did your wife trade, Larry?
"repugs" there yeahmaybeyoureright?
You must not have read my post very well. Because you CAN barter for dental services by offering to pay in full up front. Medical providers save time and costs in not having to file insurance claims and wait months for payment.
Besides, most medical providers have to write off some of their charges because it is above what the insurance company is going to pay anyway...
If you don't have insurance, offer to pay up front and you will get a lower price...
OK, Sue, I am strongly considering voting for you just to get Reid out of office, but you're going to have to drop the "olden days" references. We are an entirely different country that runs on virtually entirely different priciples and economics now in the present. Touch on something that hits home with your voters. We can't relate to you if you're a casino owner who feels ALL doctors are sympathetic. Imagine what your life would be like if you only earned ~$50K a year, working 40+ hours a week, couldn't barley afford to step inside a casino, much less own one, and were never a beauty queen. Sorry to say, I'm not getting the "working American" vibe from you. -wish I did.
Larry, dahling, bartering does not include the exchange of money, maybe your choice of words were incorrect, as would be Sue Sue's, a word that comes to mind, uhhh let's say.....negotiate, yeah that's the ticket.
Main Entry: negotiate
Pronunciation: \ni-go-she-at, -se-\
Function: verb
1 a : to deal with (some matter or affair that requires ability for its successful handling) : manage b : to arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise <negotiate a treaty>
2 a : to transfer (as a bill of exchange) to another by delivery or endorsement to convert into cash or the equivalent value <negotiate a check>
Oh never mind, maybeyoureright....lol!
yeahmaybeyoureright says:
"Lowden should kick politics to the curb and follow her heart into comedy."
Only good hearted people can have the perspective to connect the historical and comedic that way.
You're an agent, right? A political handler?
Boftx: Ya I'm surprised as well. As for defense of my comment I would chalk it up to a bad writing day...across the board. I should not write when I am in extreme pain. I have this bad wisdom tooth pushing 7-8/10 on the pain scale. No insurance by the way. Probably should not even go near the "Health Care" debate etc. So I call the UNLV dental school and was surprized to find out one has to pay about $120 to get in the door with no promise of treatment. I would do it for say $75 but for $120 I'm going to the Tom Hanks Castaway Character School of Self Dentistry. I have a pair of needle nose pliers and vice grips boiling as I write. I'm lucky. I know on the scale of problems involving health, pain, life, death and politics that I shall survive this minor ordeal.
Here are some supportive thoughts regarding Sue's well crafted healthcare proposal. Thanks go to the millions of fine Americans who are discussing this on comment boards around the country:
who knows? Maybe in ten years a barrel of oil will be denominated in Chickens
A chicken in every plot
Pork bellies and chicken tongues
Good idea because doctors can pay off their loans with chickens. They will call up the student loan agency and say "hey, my patients gave me 10 chickens last week so I can pay you back with 3, right?"
We should send Sue chickens for campaign donations
How many chickens does an anesthesiologist get?
Don't forget a fine fat goose for the pharmacist
I heard that some hospitals charge an entire chicken for just 1 pill!
New slogan "Chickens for Checkups"
How about "ducks for dentures"?
@airwear
"You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor, they would say I'll paint your house," she said. "I mean, that's the old days of what people would do to get health care with your doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people. I'm not backing down from that system."-Sue Lowden
Sue Sue was dead serious. Some folks are funny and don't even know it.
"Lowden should kick politics to the curb and follow her heart into comedy."-yeahmaybeyoureright
I was very sarcastic.
cash for cluckers?
Sorry, no drop in Lowden's lead over Reid...
Today's TPM Polltracker Average:
A matchup between Reid and Lowden, shows Lowden still leading Reid 52.1% to 38.2%.
The voters of Nevada do not care about chickens, they care about putting Harry out to pasture with the rest of the donkeys...
Only someone who has never had to do without in their entire life would say something so ridiculously idiotic.
YOU DO NOT MATTER to Sue Lowden.
@likelyspoton!
Your sarcasm is appreciated.
Our diletante has made her position clear: outlandish wealth enabled her to isolate herself so well that these words actually could have made sense but only within cliques of casino owners and such.
Her relevance to us out here pars with Santa, the Easter Bunny and Dolly Parton.
"Today's TPM Polltracker Average:
A matchup between Reid and Lowden, shows Lowden still leading Reid 52.1% to 38.2%.
The voters of Nevada do not care about chickens, they care about putting Harry out to pasture with the rest of the donkeys..."
That's TODAY as it stands....6 months as you know, Larry is an infinity in political life, we've only just begun. Anti-Repugnants aren't quite ready to mobilize just yet...we have to see how much more debachery the Repug party can unravel themselves with. Next up financial reform, 9th circuit seat senate approvals and illegal immigration. Healthcare reform? ppffttt!...you ain't seen nothing yet. So keep the polls comin', Larry.
Got popcorn?
I bet Santa, the Easter Bunny and Dolly Parton all poll better than Harry Reid...
I wish yeahmaybeyoureright would shorten their name a bit. Maybe to yeahmay???
Anyway, "yeahmay" is correct that 6 months is an infinity in political life, so the only way to monitor the campaign is through polling.
I will do my best to keep you all informed as to the polling of this political race.
Meanwhile the voters of Nevada do not care about chickens, they care about putting Harry out to pasture with the rest of the donkeys...
Lowden's playing defense HARD on this:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0...
Meanwhile, her spokespeople are digging in, too.
"The Lowden campaign sends along this letter to a local paper from a local medical professional, supporting the concept. "I have bartered with patients -- for alfalfa hay, a bath tub, yard work and horse shoeing in exchange for my care," the doc wrote."
"Be that as it may, there's a larger political context here, and Lowden's tripling down on the idea only ensures that the story keeps on going, potentially turning her into a national punch line. One Nevada writer describes this as her "macaca moment.""
Larry,
I can see that too! Look at the pull those three have! Not in DC, but around here. And Nashville.
The following is what Sue Lowden actually said, Larry:
"I'm telling you that this works. As an employer, having your employees barter a chicken beats paying for health care. I'm serious about this. Doctors like chickens."
Larry, you alright in my book, a little off for my taste though but I can disagree with you in good naturedness.
And it's Ms. Yeahmay to you sir.
@edgewise
Unbelievable....please, can I have the link? I wanna try and get a politico game going called Red's Weakest Link.....seriously.
@ColinFromLasVegas: Thanks, I needed a good laugh today!
@LarryVegas: go tend your chickens (or finish high school) and quit clucking your idiocy.
If Lowden gets elected, will she take her salary in chickens?
Lowden's handlers are feverishly trying to conflate barter--to exchange goods for other goods or services--and bargain--negotiate a price. But it won't work; they are two entirely separate concepts. Cash discounts are common, if people with no insurance or high deductibles can scrape together the upfront fee, which many can't. However, rather than clarify, Lowden clings to her original "chicken for a checkup" policy. Rural physician Dr. Titus's letter to the RJ reinforces that Lowden intends us to trade for health care like her patients do. But how many doctors besides her need alfalfa, one of her preferred payment options? Going forward, we expect Ms Lowden to use the same barter system she proposes for us.
What a bimbo. Only thing she good at is choking chickens.
Once upon a time one of my girlfriends gave me four chicks. One turned out a rooster and the other three, hens. The rooster learned quickly, and when all the neighbors told me how much they love the new addition to the early morning routine, I thought we'd made it past the local noise hurdle and could sneak past the city ordinance against cock-a-doodling the dew.
Then about 3:00 in the afternoon one summer day, this drunk guy shows up. I was outside and watched him stomp up. He was the recluse who worked nights. He'd had enough. Okay, bro; the chicken goes.
Next day my dentist got free chickens and my poor neighbor got some rest. No medicine changed hands, but everybody slept better and learned to get along.
My yard was a little less slippery in spots.
@yeahmaybeyoureright: That was a joke, but it definitely sounds like her, doesn't it?!?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0...
Greetings to everyone from Illinois. After hearing about Lowden's lunacy, I had to see what folks in your town are saying. Lord knows we have our share of jokers and crooks, yet Lowden is a new one on me.
LarryV and lipton, the resident posters from the Flat Earth Society, (aka republicans), are a hoot to read. I've heard better "arguments" from my neighbors' 8 year old kids. LarryV and lipton, it's ok to take your blinders off and get a dose of reality.
So glad to read that the vast majority of you all think Lowden's comments are stupid to say the least. Keep up the smackdown!
For Ms. Sue Lowden to say trading "chickens for checkups" is STILL incredibly stupid, no matter how far you delve into the cosmic meanings of her utterance. She knows absolutely nothing about health care reform, doctors, nurses, chickens; not to mention politics.
It's the same as some doctor coming up to her and making the suggestion, "You know what? You should make these slot machines in your casino big enough so I can stuff a live chicken in there. That should be good for at least 25 plays or so. Chickens for cheap thrills at gambling. And then later you can figure out how to trade a cow for so many pulls at MegaBucks. That's later though. The logistics of it have to be tweaked and worked out a bit first. What do you think?"
It's hilarious. Because if she keeps saying stuff like this, and causes LarryVegas goes into a mad, typing frenzy in the comments section here to justify her idiocy, then it's going to be very easy for Senator Reid to stay in office.
So no one that runs a business or has skills in a trade has offered to exchange services or discount services when dealing with others?
Do you all pay and charge retail for everything?
The idea of exclusive use of insurance to pay for routine medical care is just as silly as city folk trading chickens with anyone.
We already have one good looking, empty headed Senator whose family money comes from casinos and by his voting record, cares diddly about ordinary Nevadans. Do we really need another one?
Soon it will be "chicken ranch" and "bunny ranch" for checkups!
Harry Reid will be fine. I can't wait to see him debate her face to face. He is a class act. Extremely knowledgable on the issues that face Nevada and the Nation. Sue Lowden cant even answer a simple question about what alternatives she would suggest to Health Care Reform without sticking her foot in her mouth. It just shows she is hollow. There is nothing there. Her idea of healthcare is "I GOT MINE" and "YOU CAN BARTER FOR YOURS" screw you mentality. Come on Sue. How about some substance. I mean you had to know they were going to ask that question and you couldnt even be prepared to answer. PATHETIC!!!!! But thats no surprise. Elect Sue and I will be saying "I Told you so"
I guess she's going to stand by this "chickens for checkups" bartering nonsense.
The next part of her campaign is she'll barter for votes.
She'll send people gift certificates good at Kentucky Fried Chicken in return for your vote.
I can see it now. Her new campaign slogan is going to be....
...wait for it....
(drum roll)
WINNER, WINNER, CHICKEN DINNER!
No one in my neighborhood that I'm aware of has chickens or any other farm animal to barter with for their medical care.
My question is does it have to be farm animals or could stray dogs and cats or even homeless people be traded instead? There seems to be plenty of those in my area.
Wonder if my gyno will take a bucket of KFC in exchange for my next pap.
Guess what???
I just checked the current polls and found out that Sue Lowden is still polling ahead of Harry Reid by around 10 points.
The voters of Nevada do not care about chickens, goats, hogs or sheep.
The majority of voters only care about putting Harry out to pasture with the rest of the donkeys...
Libra... You are no longer aligned with the constellation as a result of the precession of the equinoxes.
Sorry, I am busy tending my chickens right now. Please get in line behind the little red capon named edgewise, and please keep your clucking down to a minimum...
LT2LV... That is just about the most disgusting thing I have heard today...
Don't give your gyno that bucket of KFC until he has finished with your test. Or at least, have him wait until after the exam to gobble on that greasy KFC.
I read that Sue Lowden gave away chili dogs at one of her past get togethers...
Maybe she will give away BBQ chicken at her next outing...
Yeh put some lowdown rich chick in there that will make things better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vote out the only majority leader we ever had. At least a Democrat will pass some bills.We'll just be prey to the Rich with the Republic-baggers
Calm down there shakyhooker. We would hate to see you lose your unusual sense of humor...
LarryVegas-AKA-henderson writes: "No chicken farms for me, there westvegas, I am more into "ranching." Get it??? Huh???
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That certainly gives you something to barter with, just don't let your, er, "manager" find out.
lipton writes: "I think we should barbecue chicken and have a party,with long island ice tea. no coffee served."
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Barbecue chicken? That's brilliant! You can call yourselves Teabagging Chickenhawks!
Let's see those snarky liberals try to make fun of THAT!
last throes writes:
Go to
chickensforcheckups.com
and send an emeil to Lowdown
to find out what you'll need in trade
for your medical treatment.
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This is an anti-Reid site. If you support Lowden, LT, at least be upfront about it.
Great material for MSNBC and the late night comics. Just pretend your back with Bob Hope in NAM, Sue. HA HA HA HA
Lowden has also said that Nevadans should set aside 20,000 dollars a year for health care. Okie dokie, Susie L, I'll just do that with the money I have left over in your Delusional World.
Mia, we don't have to call ourselves anything, the liberals got the name calling covered.
For lack of a better word all those right wing nuts who think Sue Lowden is the answer,Let me propose that Ensign and Lowden are the absolute worst 2 people that anyone could dream up to represent any state.
Why waste 2 senate seats when there are other states who have better need for the posts. We should just give up as a state and join another state.
There is a good expression for this nightmare scenario it says
"WHAT YOU ABUSE YOU LOSE.
3 national TV stations and the national comics like Leno etc are laughing
The latest is that if you love Lowden GO PLUCK YOURSELF.
I wont and I wont vote for her regardless of any polls that tell me Harry is losing. No one asked me or any of the people I know Its a bunch of BS.
Man, is she serious? There is no way, if she wins either the election is rigged or we are ALL ID-10-T's
Too bad she didn't say barter with a duck so calling her a quack would be more appropriate. LMAO at barnyard solution to healthcare.
3 stooges or witches? Bachmann-Lowden-Palin
okay, I dont care what party you are from, that sh-t is funny and when i read the whole kfc at the gyno, i almost fell on the floor. We could come up with a whole comedy routine off of her.
lipton writes: "Mia, we don't have to call ourselves anything, the liberals got the name calling covered."
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Yeah, plus all the good names were already taken long before Dick Armey ever dreamed up this little Teabagger goldmine of his.
I still say you all should have gone with something more descriptive like The Baldheads or The Million Pound March or maybe even The Ku Klux Klowns, but Teabagger sounds about right too.
But what do I know. I'm no 'marketing entrepreneur' like henderson-AKA-LarryVegas and I'm told that's why I'll never be anything in life.
lipton writes: "Mia, we don't have to call ourselves anything, the liberals got the name calling covered."
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Oh gosh, you named yourselves and it stuck -- so sorry.
If Americans continue to elect these out of touch Republicans even after Dubya's disastrous 8 years, we deserve to go back to bartering! lol
dems already took the Klu Klux Klan name, Bald heads are pretty in these days, so that works, and we need recipes to go along with the critters you guys are throwing out there, we have barbequed chicken, another democrat is throwing in some caribou, thank you Sarah Palin,another democrat is donating duck,(anyone have good duck recipes?)Oh, and the party is by invitation only. so once the dems have donated all the critters( for every animal mentioned,we'll have samples of, we'll have a great barbeque, and in between, we will do a little protesting against govt spending.Already sent in the suggestion. Tea bagger is good, we have ice tea bagger, and long island ice tea bagger, when is our next rally? Remember to bring all your bald headed friends, the women love men with bald heads.Thanks Mia, great suggestion!
sandy, I hope you'll be ok, because your post makes no sense at all.
lip,
punctuation F
capitalization F
makes sense at all No
Hey... Angry is talking to me again. Thank goodness, I just don't what I would do if Angry was still angry at me...
I may be outnumbered on this discussion by numbers but not in spirit...
I feel like a capon in a chicken house full of layer hens...
and airweare is the puncuation nazi.Didn't realize we were being graded here. Of course you wouldn't understand the post,it didn't contain any name calling, nasty criticisms or vile references.
http://www.bgladd.com/LowdonKFChealthPla...
Pay it forward.
I love the idea of paying it forward. I'm afraid if we tried doing something like that though, the democrats would figure a way to take control of it, tax it,mandate it, or make fun of it, because it wasn't their idea.
"I love the idea of paying it forward."
The republicans already promote that.... Pay it forward to the rich, then it stops, because in thier eyes it cant go back!
JUST IN!
The Sue Lowden for Senate campaign has won a major endorsement from the Chick-Fil-A restaurant chain.
You can't make Porsche payments with a chicken.
LOL!!!!! I only hope Lowden gets elected so we can pass a "Birther Bill" in Nevada too!!!! LOL!!!
Way too funny......... Freaks are everywhere!!!
Birther Bill
Barter for Healthcare
Obama causes earthquakes
Death Squads
Teabags on social security
Gibbons
Angle is legit
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
Sue is right. Just ask any Casino owner. Casino owners doctors, dentist, or any person that they may require their expertise can be battered with. But you must be in a position to be able to COMP them any service your Casino can provide for them, or their family and friends. This has been going on in Vegas for years, and is done to this day. Do you think if their Doctor wanted a comp to a show, rooms for friend or just wanting to go out for dinner they pay for it, No they are on the comp list. Anybody that has been in the Hotel Casino business for any length of time knows this is standard procedure. I personally know the Lowdens COMPED a room, food and beverage for a professional for two months, for his service rendered. She told the truth about bartering, it can be done but on a much larger scale.
There is absolutly nothing wrong with bartering.
I just find it very humerous that the folks presenting barter as as a solution are the very ones most vocal against communism.
Barter is the very basis of true communism.
No need for money. Do your trade and all your needs are taken care of.
Maybe Sue is on to something!
LOL!
Hey poly, since you mentioned Arizona's new birther bill...
If Arizona's "Birther Bill" is Arizona's citizen's desire, then let it be done...
Just think, showing one little piece of paper would have avoided this whole "birther" thing.
There is no doubt in my mind that Obama was born in the U.S. but this new law will avoid this sort of thing from happening again.
It is Obama's fault for not making public the birth form that has been requested.
Bless the people of Arizona for passing a law that will once and for all end this mess...
LarryVegas-AKA-henderson writes: "Bless the people of Arizona for passing a law that will once and for all end this mess..."
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Yes, and bless the Repubicans in Georgia for passing a law to make it a misdemeanor for the Department of Defense to implant microchips into peoples' genitals!
No. Really.
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com...
This will make a millionaire out of the first Teabagger who can get their tinfoil panties to market first.
poly, you are so wrong. who do you think creates all the jobs for people to do that keeps our economy running? The homeless?For every rich person that buys something,it employs a bunch of people and vendors to build it. You guys want to spread the wealth, so there is no wealthy(taking away the entrepeniership(sp), and letting govt be your builder.whats the point in trying to achieve wealth, when govt will take it, or govt will take care of you.we want to work for it, not sit back and have govt give us what it thinks best, thats not what america is all about.
lipton sez: "You guys want to spread the wealth, so there is no wealthy(taking away the entrepeniership(sp),..."
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More mindless dittospeak.
A new term has been coined to label all of you Liberals who are so concerned with chickens....
CHICKEN LIBERALS!!!
CHICKEN LIBERALS!!!
Braaaack braaaak
CHICKEN LIBERALS!!!
Bok Bok BO-GAWK!
Does it make you feel better, LarryV, to spam the board? Well, I guess it is cheap therapy -- got a chicken for us in payment?
lipper,
Back when you were flunking English in your freshman year, you didn't think it was important to say what you mean. Do you still feel that way, two years later?
Nevada Senatorial candidate Sue Lowden announced today that, in the interest of lowering governmental costs, she will turn down her salary should she be elected.
Instead she has requested to be paid on the barter system, which, Lowden points out, was the original plan of our founding fathers. "Everyone knows George Washington's pay for serving as President was three dozen beaver pelts and a bushel of sorghum," Lowden stated, "and if it's good enough for the Father of our Country, it's good enough for me."
Lowden went on to say that, while she has no need for beaver pelts and isn't quite sure what sorghum is, she would be perfectly satisfied if her senatorial compensation was comprised of hams, turkeys, potatoes, cabbages and turnips. "And I also have a guest bathroom that needs painting."
It is all right for the Liberal posters to the LV SUN to call the Tea Party supporters vulgar names, but don't call the Liberals who have the mindset of a bunch of chickens; CHICKEN LIBERALS...
Conservatives who are holding the CHICKEN LIBERALS accountable for their lack of taste (get it?), will from this day forward, will be called CHICKEN HAWKS...
Sue I agree with you on the Bartering System. Yes it is a system that actually works very well.. I know that those that have never used a Bartering system will laugh and joke at it but it has work in the past and it is still working today. Many people have unique needs these days and bartering can get those needs filled without a lot of delays. But if you barter you have to bring some skills to the table in order to be effective! This can be a sucessful system if practice correctly. Check out your local Barter Council and see for yourself........
Can it work? Yes!! Does it work? Yes!! Will it work? To some extent in Vegas.....Yes!!!
People as a whole are afraid of new things and change from what they are used to doing, so in the meantime they will poke fun and laugh at any suggestion to bring in something that they are not used to that they consider normal. To get the Masses on the same page in anything takes Divine intervention!!!!!!!!!
Larry Vegas:
The Canada Free Press had the following to say about Harry Reid:
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The Canada Free Press is an ultra right wing rag which represents the views of about 2% of Canadians. 98% of Canadians are far more progressive than most Americans and totally reject anything written in the Canada Free Press.
Just for the record, depending on the poll you look at, 92% to 97% of Canadians think that the United States has Third World health care, and Canadians wouldn't touch American health care with a ten foot pole (contrary to American right wing propaganda), and the same 92% to 97% would totally reject having an inferior American style insurance run and insurance rationed health care system for Canada.
The easiest way for a Canadian politician to get elected is to support the current single payer system that we've had since 1966, and to convince voters that HIS OPPONENT would introduce an inferior American style insurance run and insurance rationed health care system. That strategy, if successfully applied, is a guaranteed win.
The average Canadian has $1200 a month more in his pocket after taxes (which include all health costs) than the average American has in his pocket after paying taxes+health insurance+deductables+copays. We don't to resort to even thinking about paying for health care with chickens, because we have absolutely no out of pocket medical costs. Zero.
It is because of the Canadian health care system being better for 100% of Canadians that Canadians live 3 years longer than Americans.
Average age at death:
American male 73 Canadian male 76
American female 77 Canadian female 81
Sue Lowden is a joke like the bigger joke Sarah Palin but the biggest joke is the people that are going to vote for her like they do for Harry Reid...all a bunch of helpless sheep. no wonder why this country is on it's way to becoming a second/third/fourth rate power in the world. the politcians are pathetic and the(proverbial) American people who depend on them to correct their own mistakes, poor choices, and bad decisions. I CRAP BIGGER THAN THEM
To be fair to Lowden, I think she meant avoid insurance companies and come to a financial agreement with your doctor. Some doctors are taking a flat fee each year for limited services.
But I can't see that concept working when we go to Quest Diagnostics for a test, or with the x-ray technician that read my daughter's x-ray last week. People are still going to have to use the entrenched health care system.
I have Republican friends that compare Lowden to Palin...and not just in the "looks" department.
Murphy...
Thanks for your information about the Canadian health care system.
Maybe those Americans who want the Canadian style of health care should move to Canada...
Larry,
uh, have you tried to move to Canada, with your background?
Not likely.
You see they are not like another state. They actually won't let you in unless they want you. It helps to speak French. Good luck.
At five bucks a chicken, my recent surgery would have me raising about 3,000 chickens. Wonder if I can get a permit next to Sue's Casino for a chicken "ranch." Herd my chickens, have the doctors and the hospital accountants out for a barter session.
Maybe I can grow some dental floss?
Reminds me of the Republican who responded to the crisis over healthy drinking water with the suggestion that everybody buy bottled water.
Why do so many morons end up as Republicans? Morons are in the Democratic Party, but they're just not quite as loony and funny.
airweare,
Thanks for the information. I think I will stick it out here in the U.S. even if I have to put up with all the problems in our health care system.
Appears that woodysez is another CHICKEN LIBERAL. I hope the woody keeps his same good humor when Harry Reid and Dina Titus are put out to pasture on November 02...
The CHICKEN HAWKS are everywhere, they are everywhere...
A quote I heard somewhere:
"Not all conservatives are stupid people, but all stupid people are conservatives."
LastThroes... Are you sure you did not imagine you heard that phrase while you were using the restroom???
Oh, by the way, The Sue Lowden for Senate campaign has won a major endorsement from the Beef Producers Association...
How about the Porkers, Lar???
Where do they stand? "Firmly behind Sue"???
"The CHICKEN HAWKS are everywhere, they are everywhere..."
Larry, you are insatiable. Your appetite for self-destruction is fascinating!
Okay, Lar, but...
Canada has geese, in addition to better health care for less.
Sit around the fire, chomping fat ole goose breasts, telling stories of the thaw and the rains. And the trains. And the pretty young doctor at the clinic. eh?
gmager, I believe that the "Porkers" that you are referring to carry the name of Congressional Porkers and will be flying out of Washington D.C. by the flock come November...
Air, it is debatable whether or not Canada has a better healthcare system than we do. In some respects it is, in others, not even close. As for cheaper...not at all. You do realize it is paid by taxes, and it is you who helps pay taxes right?
Sorry airweare... Those Canadian geese don't cook up well, they taste awful, sorta like a duck filled with mud and moss.
I hear that some people, especially Chicken Liberals like a good wild goose once in a while.
And for your information, from experience, that pretty yound doctor at the clinic is not fond of gooses.
LarryVegas-AKA-henderson writes: "Conservatives ... from this day forward, will be called CHICKEN HAWKS..."
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You're squealing like a piglet when people talk about the crazy Teabaggers, so how long before you change your mind again and decide you don't like your term "Chicken Hawks" either?
I will gladly donate 5 chickens for you to get some mental help.
It appears that Mia must get the credit for the CHICKEN HAWKS label. She was the first to coin in on 4/21/10 at 4:51 p.m.
I might take you up on your offer to donate 5 chickens for me to get some mental help. But I can tell you right now, I AM NOT GOING TO A QUACK!!!
Mia_
I'll match yer chickens with 5 geese. Let's hope it helps young Lar to get a grip again.
Your quack or mayan?
In the standard 'wake and bake' mode, your basic hippy will drink three coffees to four bong hits, give or take a little depending on the mood and the music.
But by noon, it's the brews. Ratios go all to hell.
Come sundown when she gets home with the bacon, we're baskin in the warmth of the fire in her eyes and feeling no pain. "Welcome home, sweetheart. I got dinner ready .. ready when you are! How was work?"
How's yer ratio, Lar?
Some DO taste like ducks with mud and slimy moss.
You don't read that stuff in a book; only a 12 gauge and a fork could say that!
Hey airweare... You got me totally confused. Are you saying I am a hippy? I gave up smoking back in 73 but I am not against a drink once in a while.
My ratio? One pickled egg with hot sauce per one beer...
airweare... Have you ever eaten a prairie chicken? About the same as a Canadian Goose. So tough you think you are eating jerky.
The best way to prepare a prairie chicken, is to boil the entire bird for two days, then throw out the bird and drink the soup...
I was really hoping the Republicans would get behind a legitimate candidate to run against Harry Reid. Sue Lowden sounds like an empty-headed former beauty pageant contestant. Oh, wait...
Hey Pete... Any candidate running against Harry Reid is legitimate...
Larry,
I can't say I've had the pleasure of prairie chicken soup.
Pickled eggs, now we go way back. Same with the other.
Health food!
LarryVegas writes: "I might take you up on your offer to donate 5 chickens for me to get some mental help. But I can tell you right now, I AM NOT GOING TO A QUACK!!!"
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I definitely L'ed O L on that so I won't pick on you for the whole rest of this post.
I wonder if you could trade 7250 SUN posts for a doctor's visit.............
No that will just get you a cup of coffee at the soup kitchen...
What if you're a vegetarian? I don't know if a Tofu-key can get you in the door...
"Only the wealthy and high priests can acquire blood of humans and most
ceremonies use the blood of animals. Within the poor, which large majorities
use Voodoo, only the blood of chickens or birds can be afforded. Even this
luxury of animals, when people are hungry, is reserved for those that can
afford such offerings to the gods"
I found this statement on an anti-voodo website from dominicancrossroads.com about Haiti. It seems somehow metaphorically poetic to the current topic of how other places involve chickens in health care. Turns out chickens only get you budget voodo. Human blood gets you the best there is to buy.
Chicken Man!!! He's everywhere! He's everywhere!!!
What is crazy is, there are actually people that think it makes sense. See what our society lacks is any concern for someone else. Thats why people say, "well it works for me" and they expect everyone to be able to be just like them.
Unfortunately thats not real life, and unfortunately most practicioners are in "buisness" to make "money".
If Sue Lowden gets to ride this idea to the senate, we should all be ashamed.
Maybe "Barter" was the wrong word Sue? HMMMM? Maybe Sue will improve her speeches and Q/A sessions, Maybe she will "Barter" for some intelligence from her campaign commitee,maybe ,just maybe she'll do the right thing and throw in the towel,,,, NAAAAAAAA
She's not playing to her strengths... There's already an accepted private enterprise infrastructure for this...REWARDS CLUBS!!! Earn 25,000 points and receive your choice of a casino jacket or an appendectomy! Or maybe she means we could negotiate with chips, but the feds frowned on that when chips & tokens emerged as a local alternative economy years ago. Barter can still get pretty dear, though. Goats are just not gonna cut it for a heart bypass; You're going to lose your house, the same as the current system.
Yup... The Chicken Liberals are still having fun, so we better leave them alone.
The poor Chicken Liberals have nothing else going for them with their party is such trouble and little hope for them in the November mid term elections...
13 Action NEWS - This Morning...
Local doctor says "barter system" not a bad idea for uninsured patients
Las Vegas, NV- U.S. Senate Republican candidate Sue Lowden praised the barter system, saying that in the past people didn't need cash or insurance to see a doctor. They could trade livestock or other services. Democrats had a field day with that one, calling lowden out of touch with reality. But a local doctor says that negotiating for healthcare could save us all a lot of money.
Sheryl Moody suffers from a vascular disease that has left her with several amputated fingers. And even though she had health coverage she owed a pretty big balance on the surgery.
"After the insurance paid their part, my bill was over $10,000," said Moody.
But once she lost her insurance she found Dr. Kevin Peterson, who performed the same procedure on her for only $5,000.
"And that included the surgery, the recovery room, the follow up and medicines," she added.
Dr. Peterson is one of few physicians who actually welcomes uninsured patients. He says insurance companies are out to make a profit and believes people can get a better deal if they negotiate with the doctor providing the services. According to Dr. Peterson, if patients were to circumvent the insurance industry and go directly to the source it could help drive down health care costs.
"For example," he said, "the national average for a hernia surgery is $16,000, and we charge $5,000."
That's because he negotiates his own prices with the rest of the staff involved in the surgery.dr. Peterson says bartering is a great tool when people are paying cash. He's even received some things in lieu of money. One his patients brought him this blessing from the Dalai Lama because he had no money to pay off his surgery bill.
"I have patients who are farmers and they bring me produce. But a 'thank you' is just as good most of the time," he added.
Dr. Peterson says he's treated over 20,000 uninsured patients since he started his practice "no insurance surgery," nearly three years ago. He recommends that people do plenty of research before going outside their insurance, and find out what the going rates are for certain procedures in order to get a fair price.
Comments
TPM reports:
"NRSC communications director Brian Walsh told us in an e-mail: "When you consider Harry Reid's history of lamenting that the war in Iraq was lost, pontificating on the President's skin color or praising the fact that 36,000 more jobs were lost in February, I can't imagine he seriously wants to engage in a debate over one-liners by the candidates in this race. Watching the Senate Majority Leader get down in the mud and desperately try to inject farm animals into his flailing re-election bid is frankly a bit pathetic."
NRSC= National Republican Senatorial Committee. The committee that was chaired by John Ensign in the last cycle, the committee that employed John Ensign's mistresses' son for John. Great place to get your "what Harry Reid should do" quotes.
What Harry Reid does is work for me and my family and my business and my state and my country.
Who injected farm animals in to the debate? Did Harry give Sue the chicken she used to pay her doctor bill?
LarryVegas-AKA-henderson reports: "[Dr. Kevin Peterson] "I have patients who are farmers and they bring me produce. But a 'thank you' is just as good most of the time," he added.
Dr. Peterson says he's treated over 20,000 uninsured patients since he started his practice "no insurance surgery," nearly three years ago."
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Dr. Peterson sounds like a really, really busy guy. He's treating over 25 patients every single work day for nearly 3 years, including surgeries?
And what does he do with all of those chickens?
Larry,
SHE HAD INSURANCE, and still had to pay over $10,000.00. No problem with healthcare in this country, right?
Larryvegas,
Also, do you want negotiaite like you buying a used car when you life is at stake? When you're lying in the hospital, waiting for emegency triple bypass... please let me take a little time and barter for you. I'll find the best price.
That probably not the best time to bust out the livestock and start haggling over the price.
On the other hand, it's the perfect time for your insurance company to come up with some reason, any reason, to cancel your policy.
Yup... The Chicken Liberals are still having fun, so we better leave them to their own demise...
I kinda feel sorry for the poor Chicken Liberals as they have nothing else going for them with the Democrats is such trouble and little hope for them in the November mid term elections...
I hope that our Chicken Liberal friends can keep their good since of humor after the November elections...
Barack, barack, baaark goes the Chicken Liberals...
Sue Lowden's Prescription for America:
http://lowdenplan.com
Golden Rule: LarryVegas/Henderson the other people first so they won't LarryVegas/Henderson you ever.
Hey Chicken Liberals...
Have you seen the current polls?
Sue Lowden is still 10 points ahead of Harry Reid in the race for Harry's seat.
Harry Reid still has an unfavorable rating of 56 percent with the citizens of Nevada.
I kinda feel sorry for the poor Chicken Liberals as they have nothing else going for them but Harry Reid and chickens...
Barack, barack, baaark goes the Chicken Liberals...
If only the Democrats had their own wealthy, pretty airheads to elect and run our government.
Unfortunately, we're stuck with Senator Harry Reid, a dedicated public servant, faithful husband and family man who isn't blonde, will never win a beauty pageant and didn't marry his money.
And that's too bad because it would take a formidable candidate to match the Republicans' blond bartering braintrust and I don't think Paris Hilton is interested.
This might help you Chicken Liberals feel a little better this morning. I know you are all worn out by having so much fun at Sue Lowden's expense.
Do you wanna feel good?
Lets laugh and play
Wanna have some fun?
Throw your blues away.
Are you feelin' sad?
Got a problem, here's the cure:
Do the Chicken Dance,
Make you happy for sure.
Sue's frequent, repeated and increasingly skewed misstatement do not escape the trained eyes of psychiatrists and neuroscientists who see the pattern clearly.
Shades of Ronnie Reagan.
It's very sad. She had promise, guts and money not to mention good looks and a fabulous stage presence, back in the day.
that plummer gene
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I wish there was a filter, If I could take out the LarryVegas comments I could manage reading the 50 or so that remain and actually worth reading.
Larry? the weather is great these days, some exercise might do you some good.
LarryVegas-AKA-henderson has probably posted at least a hundred of the messages here.
98% of them are probably just mindless namecalling, spam and flooding.
He might have to put in overtime on this one.
Mia and poly must not believe that I am entitled to my 1st Amendment rights...
They would like to shut me up and others who don't have the same distorted political views as theirs...
Of course it is all right with them for all of the Chicken Liberals to continually post their rants to demonize Sue Lowden...
LarryVegas-AKA-henderson squeals: "Mia and poly must not believe that I am entitled to my 1st Amendment rights..."
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Since this is a privately owned board, you don't HAVE any 1st Amendment rights here. You play by their rules or your mindless twaddle is deleted.
The definition of Teatard is somebody who claims to respect and honor our Constitution but they haven't ever got around to reading it.
Larry, I do not wish to stop you from posting at all, I just wished for an easier way not to subject my self from seeing the majority of your postings.
Larry, to be honest, Most of your post have nothing of substance in them, and it gets really old reading the same stuff over and over.
The rest are sadly, in my opinion, the same opinions that too many others have in this country.
Keep posting, It is a constant reminder of the problems our country has to overcome.
There is a real easy way to avoid reading my posts there poly.
When you see a post with my name on it, just skip over it...
Neither one of us will be worse of then...
Mia... Like I have mentioned to you before, until you purchase the LV SUN or become one of it's editors, you are not in a position to tell me to quit posting.
The LV SUN has the complete right to cancel my posting privileges at any time. I would like to think that I must be doing something right or I would have lost my posting privileges a long time ago.
If the LV SUN removed posting privileges of everyone who had a different political view then yours, who would be left for you to debate with and who would bother to read the comments that would be without any spirited debate.
Wow, I came to this site doing some research but I'm leaving galvanized to do whatever I can to help Lowden get elected.
Liberal hate mongers are so inspiring.
LOL. Are you writing a paper on the underground, black market chicken economy?
Good luck with your "research."
LarryVegas-AKA-hebderson claimed: "Mia... Like I have mentioned to you before, until you purchase the LV SUN or become one of it's editors, you are not in a position to tell me to quit posting."
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No, you never mentioned anything like that to me before and I never told you to quit posting either. Maybe you're confused?
As I tried to explain to you earlier, it's sheer Constitutional ignorance on your part to rant about your "1st Amendment rights" in a privately owned forum.
The owners have every right to delete all of your numerous, repetitive spam and flooding posts, especially when they contain no discussion value and are entirely made up of cut&pasted insults you've already hurled, over and over, in other discussions.
And while I sympathize with all of the hard work and effort you expend here as you post your 800 messages every month on average for the last 8 months straight, you could easily fit all of your talking points and mindless partisan attacks into 400 messages a month, once you find a job doing honest work.
Hope that helps.
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