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U.S. Senate candidate Sharron Angle gets a hug from Fallon City Councilman John Tewell after a Lincoln Day dinner in February. Angle was endorsed last week by the Tea Party Express, but the former Nevada legislator faces an uphill climb in a 12-candidate GOP primary field.
Thursday, April 15, 2010 | 7:12 a.m.
Sun Coverage
CARSON CITY – The Tea Party has decided to ignore its own candidate for the U.S. Senate to defeat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
The party announced today it is backing former Nevada Republican Assemblywoman Sharron Angle, who is in Washington, D.C., to accept the endorsement.
The party bypassed Scott Ashjian, who filed as a Tea Party candidate for the U.S. Senate, but he said Wednesday he wouldn't be surprised if he didn’t get the endorsement because the party has been criticizing him.
Ashjian’s candidacy is under attack in the courts. A suit has been filed by the Independent American Party to remove his name from the ballot.
District Judge Todd Russell says he will decide soon whether to strike Ashjian’s name from the November election ballot.
Earlier, the Gun Owners of America Political Victory Fund endorsed Angle, saying she was a “true friend of the Second Amendment, never wavering in her defense of the right to keep and bear arms.”
Angle has been running third in the polls in the GOP primary election in June. A resident of Reno, Angle served four terms in the Nevada Assembly. She has been unsuccessful so far in her tries for national office.
Third in the polls? Check the latest Rasmussen poll, in which Angle passed Tarkanian
to close within 3% of Lowden.
Third? Check the NV GOP county straw polls:
Sue Lowden - zero wins - ZERO!
Danny Tarkanian - zero wins - ZERO!
Sharron Angle - won all the counties except two, and including Clark county,
home to both Lowden and Tarkanian.
Third? Check again!
Thanks, Sharron, for thinking of us - the people you are so sworn to represent.
If you really cared, you'd run as a Republican and try to beat Lowden or Tartanien (sp) in the primary. You won't beat Reid as a Tea Party candidate simply because the Republican Party won't be supporting you in the general, and you won't get their votes to beat Reid. At best, you'll come in 3rd like Ross Perot (the reason Clinton won his 1st term). You'll dilute the conservative vote and Reid will win.
Thanks a lot...
Yes, Sharon, Thanks a lot!
Hey NewSense, I must be confused. I thought Sharron Angle is a Republican and all the Tea Party is doing is throwing their support to her to win the Republican Primary.
Am I confused???
Teabag Parties are all fun and games until you split the vote.
It sure must be fun to wave coded signs around, and to call your president names, but at the end of the day the pseudo-patriots don't really have an independent bone in their pasty, selfish bodies. Any ideas they have comes from talk radio. They really should just go back to being good corporate shills and quite pretending that they are anything more than parrots.
Now Sharron Angle is a candidate with somewhat valid credentials and has a strong possibility of getting elected in November. It is going to be amazing to watch the other candidates throwing their money away. I hope that Lowden and Tartanian spend, spend, spend.
Careful what you wish for.
Angle's career is now over.
I guess I'm confused about all this too. But I know one thing. It's best to stand well out of the way as the Republican Party, Tea Bagheads, and whoever else wants to be a candidate all fight amongst themselves.
The only thing I'm not confused about is that all the candidates lined up against Senator Reid, not one of them brings anything to the table of what they are going to do except for the fact they just want to be in power; only talking in vague generalities and those Fox News talking points. And everybody is screaming and shouting they want Senator Reid to lose, but have nothing to offer that's better. And the ones that are screaming the loudest...are not even from Nevada!
I'm convinced what one comedian just recently said: The left went to the moderate center and the right went to the mental institution.
My vote stays with Senator Reid. We've been well served by him in the past, and I don't see that trend changing at all if he serves another term.
And Colin, none of those teabagging screamers knows WHY they want Reid out. They just repeat what they hear from Fox.
Thank you Sharron. :)
True, Judy. Very true.
I am a Democrat, but the hate spewing from the right totally based off Rush, Beck, and Fox News lies is really scary. I really think Fox News wants some major violent act to happen. I wish every Tea Bagger would give up their Medicare and Social Security benefits and see how they like government then. How does ANYTHING get paid for if you don't have taxes? Pretty funny how bridges are falling apart in MN where the Tea Queen Bachmann lives. And do baggers know the biggest deficits EVER were under Reagan and Bush?? And the latest surplus was under Clinton? Tea Baggers are SOOOOO misinformed by the 24/7 hate radio/TV.
The Tea Party is nothing more than the radical wing of the Republican party.
Hopefully all the nut bags from the Republican party will move over to the Tea Party. That would dilute their strength for a good number of years. You betcha.
Right on colin, Teaheads don't bring any ideas, they just whine about things that aren't true.
AXIS OF EVIL: Rush lies, Fox News lies, Republican leader lies.
What does New Sense mean, She would run as a Republican? Get a clue and know what your talking about before commenting, unless you just like seeing your name on the screen. As for the rest of you liberal lushes, Dirty Harry is going down no matter who runs against him. Nevada is a Red State. Get over it.
Actually, last time I checked Nevada was a blue state, in a blue country.
This banter is becoming ridiculous. The only hate I see is from the left, calling us racist and hate mongers. what's with you people? Every time someone calls me a racist (yes I'm a tea partier), you diminish and pat the butt of REAL racists??? Stop causing problems by calling names and spreading lies. Let's have a real discussion on things we disagree on and come together to save our liberty and stop government and it's overreaching claws. We, as Americans, all agree that our Washngton leadership needs a house cleaning. Let's focus on that! We can bring back the American exceptionalism we've grown up with and pass it on to our posterity!!
vegasj writes that "hate spewing from the right.." Meanwhile vegasj calls the Tea Party Movement the usual Liberal vulgar names...
Just to clear up any confusion, Sharron Angle is running as a Republican, not as a member of the Tea Party. The Tea Party is backing Angle's Senate run as a GOP candidate.
Thank you Tim Richardson for clearing this matter up.
But this discussion gives those who demonize and use vulgar names for the Tea Party Supporters another opportunity to do some bashing...
Congress should start a bill to allow ALL Tea Baggers to get OUT of Medicare, the new HCR, and Social Security immediately. If they HATE Government SOOO MUCH, let em out. Or, just let Texas secede and they can all move there. We don't want or need the hate mongers IMHO.
LarryVegas, I'm not seeing the "vulgar" names, just a few spinoffs of the original. I do hear and see what Tea Baggers carry and say about our President though and to me that is vulgar time 1000. In 30 seconds Rush, Glenn, or Sarah must say enough vulgarity to really get you angry, right? You do hear what they say, I'm sure.....?????
Just more proof Ms. Angle is way out on the extremist fringe.
Thankfully she only has 5% support in the GOP primary.
Uncle Larry:
Let me explain this to you one time this way.
1. You are training the other side. (Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, Independents, Non voters) how to invalidate the will of the people (elections). I submit this percentage to be about 65-70 percent of America.
2. The Teabaggers are verifiably being lied to (Obama is not an American, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is the Anti-christ, etc.) and misled. If your friends had been rooted in reality it could have been an AWESOME addition to America.
3. The 65-70% already know the BS the Teabaggers have spread. When the teabaggers come back to earth they will have a hard time having relevance.
4. If they had tried to elevate the discussion on both sides and had a good influence on the D's and R's it may have been OK. They chose to be primarily against liberals, blacks, and poor people.
5. The behavior of trying to negate the election and being dismissive of Obama (Watch the last interview on Fox News with Obama) will lead some on the other side to overreach too. You are playing chess with blood inside the pieces.
6. The brandishing of weapons in public at their events is a clear effort to intimidate people.
7. The primary focus is ONLY to elect republicans. Please name one independent they have elected.
8. If you succeed the opposition will come back at you in ways you've never dreamed of. They sat through the selection of Bush. The next pushback will be worse than what you are doing to the status quo now.
Stand down now teabaggers. Your opposition is stronger than you think.
Payback will happen if you don't police yourselves better.
Sounds like the tea-baggers are doing exactly what we were hoping they would do....FIRE UP THE DEMOCRATIC BASE!!!!
An article today says that the tea-baggers put out a list of Dems they want to see defeated.
My congresswoman Dina Titus is being targeted by them.
I see the tea baggers as a legitimate movement..but an EXTREMEST movement none the less.
They DO NOT represent the community which I have come to love. I don't live amongst birthers who see our President as illegitimate, I see my community, in all its diversity, pulling together and try to overcome what the Bush years have done to us.
And I see, in my congresswoman, Dina Titus, a pragmatic, sensible lawmaker who has the values we share.
She supported health care reform, but she didn't just jump on the Democratic party bandwagon to do it...she didn't support it until all her concerns about how it would affect small businesses were addressed to her satisfaction.
That's what she does...she studies the issues and then decides.
For the naysayers out there take a moment to visit her website..ask questions, call her office, they have been gracious and are always willing to help.
I'm sorry. But when I see tea-baggers I see Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Fox news...and when I see Dina Titus I see a lawmaker who is working hard for average folks like you and me!
The Wyman-Cahalls
Las Vegas, NV 89142
If she loses the primary in a few months it will delegitimize the tea party in Nevada.
I can't wait!
I think if all tea party members did move to Texas and form their own country. There would very few left in the rest of the states who pay taxes. I am not against paying taxes, but I am against paying taxes for people who don't work and want a handout from the government. We are falling apart and our country is becoming divided.
Easy win for Reid!
howdydostu -
Thanks for commenting. As we discussed, my staff will send your check out this afternoon.
Love, Dina
Larry, I've posted here many time and always appreciate reading what you have to say.
We've had some very thoughtful back and fourths.
My feelings about how Congresswoman Titus is navigating between her liberal base (me) and her other constituents (our district is evenly split)
is very admirable in this hostile political environment.
Does she share my political views? Mostly, not always, but mostly.
Sher deserves a lot of credit.
Now I'm off to I hop for breakfast. Chicken fried steak as you would suggest!!
Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall
Las Vegas, NV 89142
No edgewise..I am not voting for Angle.
I don't know who this "Tea Party" is that is endorsing candidates.
The tea party participants have learned about politics in this country. After I attended my first tea party..I learned about "racist smears," "astroturf" Now we have learned that the "tea party" has leaders and organization aka hyjackers who endorse.
The Tea Party rallies exposed the corruption of American politics and media..exposed the ugly hypocrisy of the liberals on TV ..so the rallies have accomplished as much as rallies can accomplish. It is time for new directions and new political activism.
There can be only one Craziest and after a long exhausting search the teanuts found her locked away in a padded room on Shutter Island.
Congrats on your release, Sharron. Remember to take your meds.
There was never a "Tea PARTY" candidate, this Reid plant tried to hijack the "Tea Party" movement. The Tea party is an event where conservative groups from ALL Parties gather to be heard,lower taxes, less government, balance budget and a lot of anti Illegal immigrant. I voted for Reid last time (sorry) but never again will I vote for any Reid.
Angle has my vote in the primary, and in the general if she makes it through the primary.
Good bye Harry
Tea requires hot water to brew before it is pourable.
xtra, the "Tea Party" is just a Fox News tool that has amplified the right wings racist hate and fear mongering tactics lining the pockets of Beck, Hannity, Palin, and O'Reilly.
The teabag endorsement, boy that will put her over the top.
Sandoval and Ensign showed up on the 2 dueling talk stations and got their respective softball lobs and the obligatory shoe shines. Big NEWS: Ensign got Bin Ladin's revenge in Afghanistan, maybe mommy and daddy can take you to the doctor?
Oh and Gwinn II (aka Sandoval) he was against the State Supreme Court ruling that got rid of the 2/3 vote for tax increases. Of course he's the one who took the case to the court for his buddy Gwinn
Angle is a perfect example of the lunatic fringe in this country. By the way, the Tea Baggers are so uninformed..income tax rates are near historic lows due to Obama's tax cuts (see todays reporting). What they really object to is the fact that and African-American is President, and not tax policy. As for the spending side, they are hypocrites because there wasn't a peep from them when Bush doubled the national debt during his tenure, gutting the economy. Don't worry though, once again the Democrats will do the heavy lifting and get this economy moving again.
"Don't worry though, once again the Democrats will do the heavy lifting and get this economy moving again."
When? By what means? Increased deficit spending?
Newsflash! This is the dreaded "Bush third term", led by George W. Obama. Suckers!!!
Tea parties brewing hypocrisy:
"Despite the fear that socialism is coming to America, 62% of tea party supporters also support Social Security and Medicare. In fact, nearly half of them either benefit from Social Security or Medicare or have somebody in their immediate family who does. And about one-third are directly beneficiaries at least one of the programs, compared to about one-fifth of the population at large."
It appears that the Leftists looneys are circling their wagons.
SallyMinster:
You seem to be a good person. Can you name your top five dems and top five repubs?
Mine are:
Dems
1. Barack Obama
2. Alan Grayson
3. Al Franken
4. Anthony Weiner
5. Jimmy Carter
Repubs
1. John Ensign (he should resign anyway)
2. George HW Bush
3. Nancy Reagan
4. Orrin Hatch (Pre Obama)
5. Mike Huckabee
Sticking with Sue Lowden all the way!
edgewise: Are you certain that indicates hypocrisy?
I pay a whole lot into Social Security - consequently I can't afford a private retirement program. I will be drawing SS when I retire, it doesn't mean it's the system I choose. The government has bound these people to the system. And, FYI, enrollment in Medicare is mandatory.
You see that as hypocritical - some see it as enslavement.
Yes, when your entire platform is squawking about the ills of socialism and spreading the wealth and entitlement spending, etc, and you're coincidentally a symptom of that problem, that's Grade A hypocrisy, larry.
These Teabags can't even pronounce Obama. They call him Oh-BAM-a, to appeal to the racist base.
Yeah, and those Negroes in the early 1800's - whining and complaining about slavery! All the while they were engaging in it. Hypocrites!
A New York Times/CBS News poll shows that Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well educated than the general public...
Scott Ashjian admitted in court yesterday that he was a registered Republican when he filed his candidacy as the Tea Party of Nevada candidate for U.S. Senate. This may cause Ashjian to have his name removed from the ballot come November...
"A New York Times/CBS News poll shows that Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well educated than the general public..."
Cue Larry's refrain of "elitist!"
From Larry's poll:
"They're white. They're older. And they're angry."
"CBS News and the New York Times surveyed 1,580 adults, including 881 self-identified Tea Party supporters, to get a snapshot of the Tea Party movement. There is a lot of information to unpack; let's begin with the demographics. "
"Eighteen percent of Americans identify as Tea Party supporters. The vast majority of them -- 89 percent -- are white. Just one percent is black. "
"They tend to skew older: Three in four are 45 years old or older, including 29 percent who are 65 plus. They are also more likely to be men (59 percent) than women (41 percent). "
Also:
"Twenty-four percent of Tea Partiers think violent action against the government could be justified, but that number rises to 32 percent among Tea Party activists."
"More than three in four Tea Party activists get their television political news from Fox News Channel. "
A bunch of me firsters are calling us retired folks hypocrites because, after paying into S.S. and medicare for 45 years we are collecting on these programs.
Now the me firsters would like to vote themselves the same programs without EARNING them and thus having [once again]someone else pay for them!
Who's the real hypocrites here?
It will be very interesting to see what happens to Angle's numbers in the next few weeks.
This is pretty much the final nail for Parson, and I suspect Tark is not pleased with his prospects, either. At this point, if I were registered as a Republican instead of unaffiliated, I would probably go with Angle instead of Lowden.
This endorsement is not that significant. Sue Lowden will be the candidate of choice when Reid meets his political maker at the ballot box in November.
From LarryVegas:
[[But this discussion gives those who demonize and use vulgar names for the Tea Party Supporters another opportunity to do some bashing...]]
++++++
And again, the baggers named themselves baggers. Now they get offended because the double meaning was pointed out to them. A good start to not being called a bagger is to suggest to some of their supporters who show up at the rallies to quit stringing TEA BAGS around their hats.
I live in former assemblywoman Angle's district. Even though it is solid Republican and she had only token opposition, she always ran a nasty attack campaign for election. She is a right-wing hack with an inclination to make distorted/inaccurate/inflammatory statements, like Gov. Gibbons. When Gibbons left congress, she almost won the Republican congressional primary, which would have cleared the way for an easy general election win and her becoming Nevada's Michelle Bachmann.
I don't have five top Dems. I'm certain, however, that Bwarney Frwank is a bottom.
"A New York Times/CBS News poll shows that Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well educated than the general public..."
They must of got a gooder education at teabag U to make them "more well educated"! LOL!
Sandy,
At some point in time the editors of the LV SUN will decide that using vulgar names to describe Tea Party supporters is no longer funny or proper and they will start removing those posts.
Calling people vulgar names does not do much other than to alienate those people and ruin the credibility of those who are doing the vulgar name calling...
Your choice...
Not surprised at all that the Baggers would endorse the angriest, most vitriolic candidate in Nevada's history.
Sue Lowden didn't look too happy at the Tea Party in Carson City this morning. She is no match for Angle in a debate and will not be able to avoid debating anymore now that Angle has the Tea Party and Gun Owners of America behind her. Could "Club for Growth" be the next Angle endorser? Sue will have to explain her and her hubby's large donations to Reid over the years and also her business dealings as an officer and director of publicly held Archon Corp. Oh, and then there's that little matter of cheating her own Republican Delegates out of their votes at the 2008 Nevada State Republican Convention. It's not going to be a cake walk for sweet Sue!
Oh, this is wonderful news for all of us supporting OUR Senior Senator Harry Reid (who is the U. S. Senate Majority Leader, too)!
Thank you so much TEA Party people - you all are the sort of "gift that keeps on giving" - and I am truly sorry you lack education to do basic math and any serious political experience and knowledge of how democracy actually works in Nevada and America!
Popcorn? Nuts? Froot Loops? Anyone?
Hey Larry, why don't you tell us all what a "teabagger" is...
Glenn Beck is the Puppet Master and sits in the Command center (a.k.a. Fox News HQ) and watches his robots spew his laughable lies.
I was LMAO at Sally Struthers lookalike, Victoria Jackson, singing about a communist in the White House. Really??? And we're suppose to take you all SERIOUS???? LMAO!!!
vegasj
Sorry, you are wrong..I went to the tea parties. Fox news did not encourage or incite me. In fact, the events I attended were never listed or covered by Fox News. No one paid me. No one told me what to put on the sign.
That first tea party..I thought..I will be the only one but by God, I will be the One who finally stands up...
And the people just kept pouring in..and pouring in and pouring in...until the place was packed..
That is grassroots because...it wasn't even mentioned on any news network..You had to know someone who was blogging and say "hey, I will be at the park..lets protest!"
So dont' tell me it was Fox News or Astroturf or any of that barf bag BS..
vegasj
I am not asking you to take me seriously but you will take seriously the 100% of GDP that Bernanke predicts by 2020. You will take seriously the deficit being over 10% of GDP now..and that is historic
You will take seriously the fact that the interest on that debt will be over 1 trillion dollars.
You will take seriously the trade deficit..and even if we print money..and pay all this off painlessly..the Chinese are going to have all of those dollars...Do you know who is buying those toxic assents aka bundles of fanny mae freddy mac mortgages? The Chinese are gong to buy American..and that list is going to be longer than just Al Gore.
If you don't take this seriously then you are not American..you are a blogger from out of the country and I will ignore any further posts from you
Chad Christensen is the true conservative candidate running for the Republican nomination. As an Assemblyman, his voting record shows the conservative values the other candidates claim but can't back up.
@ Sandy (12:12) Grow up and face facts.
It was Anderson Cooper who first used the vulgar term with the sexual innuendo to describe attendees of the first tea party rallies. He even snickered after doing so, because he knew the CNN censors wouldn't catch it.
You don't think it is telling that it is only the liberal media outlets and all their sheeple who are the ones who use the term presently and use it derisively? Of course not. Because the left is in full "demonize" mode. When you can't argue the issues, demonize the opposition, right?
And that's why you're demonizing the left, then, Bullmoose?
Judy, thats funny, because anything that comes out of a democrats forked mouth is ditto with Obummer and crew, almost word for word. I think its funny that everything that dems accuse repubs of, is exactly what they are doing or saying.Can any democrat follower come up with anything the repubs are doing right now they didn't do? I never saw Bush on tv interviews or talk shows, saying things like " oh, the repubs are saying its the end of the world we knew, but today is a beautiful day, I don't see the sky falling" yet, he says if we don't pass the healthcare bill "people will die", but it doesn't go into effect until 2014, so these people who were suppose to die according to Obummer are now saved even though its 4 years out? stupid remark, but dems eat it up.
Larry Vegas
I agree that all the vulgarity, hatred and ugliness that the left spews is tiresome but..I don't think it should be removed...
The snickering, vulgar name callers are expressing their feelings which they substitute for reasoned argument ..What did Gibbons say...(I paraphrase) "That feelie thing is a song that is cool for a brief time..then it becomes boring, falls off the charts and loses credibility."
All that the terms..racist, teabagger and the rest of the left's challenged vocabulary reveals is that the left is juvenile, vulgar and inane.
In the end ..it is not about the tea party..it becomes about them
Consider someone who call people the "n" word..It tells everyone about them..and nothing about the person they are so labeling
And it looks like Obama is going to print his way out of this..
Just print money and pass it out..
I dunno..maybe just until after the elections..There will be a recovery ..or the semblence of one until the fall..because the economy is going to be awash in ..government alms.
I don't know if the Chinese or the Europeans are going to let us get away with that..flood the US and the World with paper dollars..
Hmmm...grab the popcorn and stay tuned
vegasj, and you guys have Tina Fay. And this is different how?
thisone guy...... do you know the history behind the Boston Tea party? That might help. But instead, the dems have twisted the cause, and called the people names to the point of a disturbing violent nature. But, the democrat anti war demonsrations were different right?
"Chad Christensen is the true conservative candidate running for the Republican nomination. As an Assemblyman, his voting record shows the conservative values the other candidates claim but can't back up."
Obviously, the Tea Party Express folks don't agree with you. Otherwise, Chad would have received their endorsement. Chad should withdraw now and wait a few years and try again. After all, he's only about 35 or so. He's got plenty of time. He should have stayed in his State Senate race where he had a good shot. The only one he can help by staying in the senate race is Sue Lowden by diluting the conservative voter base because he has no chance of winning the US Senate nomination this time around.
Let me get this right:
xtra goes on a multi-paragraph diatribe whining about namecalling while managing to call anyone who disagrees with them:
snickering
vulgar
name callers
juvenile
vulgar (again)
inane
THEN they say, "It tells everyone about them..and nothing about the person they are so labeling."
I couldn't agree more, genius!
Angle, Sandoval, Fiore for noms. The Obama-Reid-Pelosi triumvarite are bankrupting the country fiscally, morally, and politically; it is the far left that is scared, angry, and violent; and it is the American people of all races & beliefs who will bring this cluster**** DemSoc mess to an end come the fall elections.
ksand99
You really do need a dictionary:
SNICKERING "A snide, slightly stifled laugh" Snicker is what Olbermann did when he said what he said "teabagger.
VULGAR.."lewdly or profanely indecent" Teabagger is a vulgarism as it is slang for a sexual act
JUVENILE people who snicker at slang for sexual acts or believe that calling people vulgar names (you are a poopoo head..or teabagger) is a substitute for rational arguments
VULGAR AGAIN (see VULGUR)
INANE A vulgarity substituted for a rational argument
Now.. can you tell me how you justify the term "teabagger" as anything except a juvenile vulgarity intended to insult?
I don't need a dictionary, xtra... nor do I need an arrogant deconstruction of words most kids learn in middle school.
Of course, in your rush to assert your intellectual superiority (this is where *I* snicker), you missed the point of my comment. Please, do go back and read it again.
As for the term "teabagger," it's a term used to denote someone who follows the tea party. I'm not keen on any double entendre... maybe you can enlighten us?
And here's ksand99, doing his vulgar name calling and demonizing those who don't have the same twisted outlook as he does.
So, per ksand99, it is all right to call someone a vulgar name as long as it is used to "denote someone..."
Does ksand99 have a special vulgar word to "denote" women, Blacks, Hispanics, Orientals and all those other people and groups that he does not agree with???
To get this thread back on track....
I think it's interesting that the Tea Party, which is supposedly a "grassroots movement", but has evolved into being grasped by the Republican Party, splintered off into a separate Tea Party by others, and combination of both (mostly because it's lucrative to fund raise off of to play off of people's sympathy, passion, fear and anger; just so long as they slap Harry Reid and the Democrats), chooses one person (Ms. Angle), while the Republican Party has pretty much leaned towards Ms. Lowden as the front runner.
It's amazing to wash the zeal, vigor and determination displayed SOOOOO much that they don't know what they want to do. One goal is certain though: They want Senator Reid to lose. But the problem is that the Republican Party/Tea Party Movement are both so collectively fractured with people pulling, tugging, yanking and jerking at the rope, they end up not having a clear idea of what they want or who they want to oppose Senator Reid. It's like one camp lining up with Angle and another camp aligning with Lowden.
Don't matter though. Because neither of them bring anything of value to the table to entice voters to vote for them.
Senator Reid has had many successes. And if voted in for another term, I don't see this trend changing.
It's clear for me. Senator Reid. Yes, we can. And yes, we did. And yes, we will. He's got my vote. He don't talk about stuff. He actually does things, provides Nevada with a clear, loud voice in the Senate and represents the people of Nevada with dignity, and does what is right.
"Does ksand99 have a special vulgar word to "denote" women, Blacks, Hispanics, Orientals and all those other people and groups that he does not agree with???"
Shot yourself in the foot, there, Larry.
Many Asians feel that the word "oriental" is offensive and is a term of disparagement.
You should apologize.
ksand99
The term "teabagger" when used to denote someone who follows the tea party is a juvenile vulgarity meant to denigrate and insult.
It is snide, vulgar, rude, crude, juvenile, inane and that has been established as a fact in the media and by comments posted on this board.
Whether you claim the right to "innocently" use a term when you are aware of its rude, juvenile, vulgar and insulting meaning.. by saying that you reject the meaing or you are not "keen" on it....is the same as saying a person can use the "n" word because it is actually.."just Spanish for black" *I am not keen on the "english" definition*
"It is snide, vulgar, rude, crude, juvenile, inane and that has been established as a fact in the media and by comments posted on this board."
No, as a matter of fact, that has not been established as a "fact." That is your opinion. Since you like dictionaries so much, I implore you to crack it open again and look up the word "fact" and the word "opinion" and try to discern the difference.
Once you do, you'll see that your OPINION is not, in fact, a FACT.
I'd also be aware that the most recent news articles about tea party leadership... the tea party candidate running for Governor in New York... was unapologetic when it was discovered he forwarded sexist, pornographic, and racist emails using the "n" word. I believe one email even showed bestiality.
That is someone the tea party is trying to get elected to public office, xtra. So I think it's absurd and, dare I say, puritanical of you to criticize my innocent use of the word "teabagger."
I mean, LarryVegas, the Sun's #1 Tea Party Activist, just used the word "oriental" to describe Asians and you remain silent.
Why don't you take an hour or so and try to reconcile your double standard.
ksand99
If the entire world is aware that "teabagger is a snide, vulgar, rude, crude, juvenile and inane insult..then the person who uses that term is branded as a..snide, vulgar, rude, crude, inane (silly) and insulting (poopoo head) juvenile..
Now how have I called anyone a name?
ksand99
I haven't seen the emails but..I am more interested in how those emails were obtained, whether they involved any use of taxpayers funds.
This is a troubling issue because whether the government passes "hate speech" laws or public standards of decency proscribe certain pictures..There is a privacy issue here.
Is the government going to start monitoring the net and deciding what can be sent..politcal speech or male jokes or ..
I am concerned about the privacy issues and free speech..
I am very tolerant of what people do and say...even the "n" word but..not pornography involving animals or children..but how far can the government go to control that on the web?
This is a serious issue and what was sent is subordinate to ...free speech, free association and privacy.
Oh xtra, you make this too easy.
First, I'll point out that your assumptions are wrong. "The entire world" is not aware of what you claim. In fact, I'd imagine that the rest of the world for which English is not their first language has no idea how to comprehend that phrase. I think saying "the entire world" is rather arrogant.
Right out of the gate, you've swung and missed.
Second, your prodigious and farcical use of a thesaurus just exposes the fundamental weakness of your argument... the argument that failed thirty minutes ago.
Calling people names while indicting them for name-calling is what the internet kiddies call a "FAIL."
Now, since you're keen on ignoring racism from your fellow teabaggers, I can tell you, definitively, that your opinion of me means nothing. Actually, it carries as much heat as absolute zero on the kelvin scale. (Lords knows you'll need to consult wikipedia for that one.)
It's sorta like Sarah Palin critiquing the President, you know? Just embarrassing for her... well, you're not faring much better, champ.
This is all to say you're confusing a noun with a verb. It's an elementary mistake, and you've continued to stumble ever since. Good day.
ksand99
Unless those emails involve some sort of public corruption or fiduciary irresponsibility..
I choose to ignore the emails and any allegations concerning them ..because I feel that is protected speech..and the man's private papers were taken without warrant...
He forwarded the emails, xtra. They weren't locked away in a vault.
Of course you'll excuse bestiality, racism and sexism from fellow tea baggers.
That's, again, why your opinion is of no consequence.
"I am very tolerant of what people do and say...even the "n" word "
Yes, you will tolerate and smile when someone uses the "n" word, but "tea bagger" is contemptible?
Consistency isn't your forte, huh?
ksand99
Confusing a noun and a verb?
A tea party is not a teabag (noun) and therefore a teapartier is not a "teabagger" (verb)
And as for racism..I hear that whine from the liberal swamp..racistracistracist..
I haven't seen the emails. I have seen allegations
ksand99
Yes, I am tolerant and if you had read my original post, I specifically stated that the word shouldn't be removed from the forums, even though it was a rude, crude..etc insult
So you can't accuse me of being inconsistent..if you had read my original post..
Both words are contemptible but that doesn't justify censorship. It is a person's right to express himself in any way he chooses as long as it doesn't involve nonconsensual adults, real children or animals..
"A tea party is not a teabag (noun) and therefore a teapartier is not a "teabagger" (verb) "
Oh xtra, stop. Really, just stop.
A "tea bag" is a noun, and represents a bag of tea. "Teabag" is a verb, and is indelicate. "Teabagger" is a noun, and represents a member of the Tea Party. If you actually took some time to research the verb and its conjugation, you would find it is not used in the manner in which you assert it has been.
As for Mr. Paladino, he acknowledged the emails in question. "Paladino admitted he was "careless" with his emailing, but then backpedaled with the grace of a ballerina: "I would say the e-mail was racist..."
"And as for racism..I hear that whine from the liberal swamp..racistracistracist.."
It's really not that hard. Don't be racist. Words to live by, my friend.
New Oxford American Dictionary:
teabagger - a person who protests President Obama's tax policies and stimulus package, often through local demonstrations known as "Tea Party" protests (in allusion to the Boston Tea Party of 1773
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/...
It is settled. It's in the dictionary.
Here is the inappropriate and indelicate usage, done by a teabagger;
http://www.obscureprotest.com/wp-content...
ksand99, would you please some reputable link that supports your claim that the word "oriental" is now considered offensive?
If it is, should I now be offended if I am referred to as "occidental"?
Random House's Guide to Sensitive Language states "Other words (e.g., Oriental, colored) are outdated or inaccurate."
The Guide to Sensitive Language suggests the use of "Asian or more specific designation such as Pacific Islander, Chinese American, [or] Korean."
Merriam-Webster describes the term as "sometimes offensive,"
Encarta states when the term is used as a noun it is considered "a highly offensive term for somebody from East Asia."
Anyone who studied Asian American history knows that the word "Oriental" conjures up images of people less than savage as the term was used in Europe and then the United States in the last three centuries. And now the state of Washington has officially acknowledged the term as derogatory and offensive and banned it from all public text.
"Asian" rather than "Oriental" will be used to refer to the people of the racial category in all government statutes, codes, and regulations, even if many unknowingly interchange the "O" word with the term "Asian," and that covers anything Filipino American.
"Oriental" will be stricken from all government documents here beginning July 1, 2002, thanks to state Senator Paul Shin, key sponsor of Senate Bill 5954 or legislation Updating Obsolete Language. First introduced in February 2001, the bill was passed in the state Senate and House in March 2002. Governor Gary Locke, the first governor of Asian descent on the mainland, signed it April 2.
"I cannot tell you how proud I am of our state for finally passing a law that simply says Washington will no longer tolerate offensive words in our laws and regulations," Shin, a Democrat representing Edmonds and the only Asian Pacific American incumbent in the Washington State Senate, told Philippine News.
When used to describe inanimate objects, "oriental" is the appropriate adjective, such as "oriental rug" or "oriental jewelry." In reference to the people and the culture, "oriental" is fraught with negative stereotypes ascribed to Asians by westerners.
"The word 'oriental' carries with it racist overtones and anyone who thinks that those offended by it are just hypersensitive do not understand the implications of what it means to be stereotyped," Washington Rep. Velma Veloria told PNews.
Now that is just unreal. I have never heard that before, and can't even think of ever hearing any discussion of that over the years.
Oh well.
Freddie said,
"Third in the polls? Check the latest Rasmussen poll, in which Angle passed Tarkanian
to close within 3% of Lowden.
Third? Check the NV GOP county straw polls:
Sue Lowden - zero wins - ZERO!
Danny Tarkanian - zero wins - ZERO!
Sharron Angle - won all the counties except two, and including Clark county,
home to both Lowden and Tarkanian.
Third? Check again!"
First:
Within 3% of Sue Lowden? I think you need to check what the poll asked. The poll was head to head with Reid. Just because she was 3% less than Lowden against Reid, doesn't mean she is trailing Lowden by 3%. Lowden beat Reid by 15% while Angle only beat Reid by 6%. That is a 9 point difference.
Second:
Also, check the latest poll asking "If the GOP primary were held today, who would you vote for?" in which Angle only garnered 5%, while Lowden amassed 45% of the vote, beating the 2nd place Tarkanian by 18 points, and destroying Angle by 40 points!
And don't even get me started about straw polls. "Straw" polls have a fitting name, since candidates only pull them out when they are grasping at straws. If anyone paid attention to the 2008 GOP race, they would know that Ron Paul won almost all of the straw polls that were held..look where that got him..
Third: Check again!
candidate has some level of validity for our state
The republican party is broken.
The republican party is toast.
This is as it should be, as they are the party
that ruined our economy.
Easy win for Harry Reid.
I find it funny when the Dems say all Tea Party supporters are OLD white People but did you look at Reids pictures from a couple days ago and NOTICE he was pictured with OLD WHITE PEOPLE himself. Ironic don't you think?
I don't care who this fringe group supports. Nevada is very unpredictable. Its residents represent the last of rugged individualism of the Old Wild West.
Stupid is as stupid does, and there have been enough stupid decisions made by the governor and corrupt county politicians to last a lifetime.
Now is the time to be asking questions, and demanding answers of every candidate; not after the election.
PEOPLE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS:
1) Can this woman answer a question without being prompted?
2) What is HER platform?
3) Have you seen her resume?
4) Where did she work and what experience can she bring to the job?
5) Where did she go to school?
6) What has she done noteworthy or awards has she won?
7) In what leadership roles has she performed?
It's time to weed out "stupid" in the field of candidates that are suppose to "lead" us into the future with insight and common sense.
And, if a "stupid" one gets through, it's the voters' fault because they were too stupid to ask questions BEFORE the election!!!!!!!!!!
@ Xtra and sallyminster
exactly where were you two when baby bush was in office?
was the economy in great shape when obama took office?
simple questions which bring answers, answers which bring out inconvienant facts. Bush created this mess and the teabaggers are simply another arm of the republican party. someone referred to them as parrots. what a perfect description.
If what this Country needs is a third Party then I say ok - BUT - can't they come up with some kind of name that sounds more legitimate than TEA? Party? Even just calling themselves the Independent Party sounds more legit and less 'radical' than calling themselves the "Tea Party". That just conjurs up too many images of a bunch of disgruntled citizens gone wacky. And if we do wind up with a third Party then that candidate should divorce themselves from either affiliation - be it Dem or Repub. and be a true 'independent'. I think the tea-partiers heart is in the right place but they're just going about it all wrong. A simple way to vote- just stay away from ALL names that have "RE-ELECT" in front of them - that's your first clue as to who NOT to vote for :)
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The troll attack liberals are out spewing their garbage big time today.
Anyone who reads these comments should try doing a little research to find the truth before believing the nonsense these idiots are attempt to make people swallow.
ksand99 is up to his usual tactics of trying to intimidate other posters who do not have the same Liberal views as himself...
ksand99 emailed me the above email at home through the LV SUN.
What's next for ksand99?
How low can he go???
Uncle Larry:
This is a guy who clearly is under your skin in many ways.
You also are a one trick pony, universally against anything written here by the Sun. Unless you are being paid to post here, you are trying to pick a scab at almost ever point proffered by the Sun.
If there were more balance to your comments, and more research and truthfulness (a lot of your points are easily debunked, and your opinions are one dimensional) I am sure there would be more harmony.
Quite frankly you seem to like to hijack many threads with republican/teabagger dogma and that is associating yourself with liars, warmongers, and baby killers.
If the shoe fits..
According to ksand99, if a word makes it as a finalist in OED's Word of the Year marketing press release, it's "in the dictionary," even though a search on OED's dictionary site reveals no such definition. (Oh the tortured logic of a rube!)
Then ksand99 must be thrilled to know that "Death Panels" are real for the exact same reason. "It is settled. It's in the dictionary."
Hey Jeff, I love you too...
At some point in time the editors of the LV SUN will decide that using vulgar names to describe Tea Party supporters is no longer funny or proper and they will start removing those posts.
Calling people vulgar names does not do much other than to alienate those people and ruin the credibility of those who are doing the vulgar name calling...
Your choice...
Each type of Republican has a candidate for the U.S. Senate seat. The Republican plutocrats have Lowden. The wannabe plutocrats have Tarkanian. The nuts (i.e. gun/abortion/militia/racist/fascist) have Angle. Anti-goverment Angle has spent her life on the government payroll (school system). She took early retirement and launched a political career pandering to the fears and superstitions of the nuts while serving the plutocracy. How many of these anti-tax Tea party people have investment income (i.e. interest/dividends/cap. gains/rental) worth taxing? Tea Party does the bidding of their plutocrat masters.
Oxford American Dictionary'
I hate to burst your bubble there ksand99. But the "Oxford American Dictionary" that you refer to has numerous words listed that are considered vulgar and are not fit to print on this site.
Check out some of them there four letter words. They are in there...
Go ahead and try to use some of them on this site and see what happens...
Buritto
Um, I think that is called a double standard. The Dems are famous for it. I can do it, but you can't.....
In a primary with this many candidates, it is clear that she is going to be a definite factor. I don't think there is any way of telling who will come out on top. She is a force to be reckoned with. The turnout will be very low, and a surprise winner is not out of the realm of possibility.
WESTVEGAS said it all............I agree.What a bunch of WACKO's.
Only 3500 teabags showed up in DC for the big final event, the movement is out of gas and full of it at the same time.
The republican party is broken.
It's all over for them.
teamster is whistling past the graveyard
Uncle Larry:
You said:
"At some point in time the editors of the LV SUN will decide that using vulgar names to describe Tea Party supporters is no longer funny or proper and they will start removing those posts.
Calling people vulgar names does not do much other than to alienate those people and ruin the credibility of those who are doing the vulgar name calling..."
I say:
The day you cannot call an extremist political group a demeaning name with a double entendre is the day we become the old USSR.
If these people, the teabaggers, shown up ready to respect other people, they would get some respect in return. They want liberals, thinkers, progressives, left leaning independents all to be eliminated from public policy decisions.
If I thought that me calling them tea partiers would have you stop your negative attacks against all the groups mentioned above, I'd do it gladly. I think it is a penny on the ground in terms of importance.
It really is your sides choice to tone down the rhetoric before you have more blood on your hands.
Your choice...
Isn't it wonderful how this wonderful government of ours has completely divided this country?? Both sides of this whether right or left is totally out of control. As, for Tea baggers...the hateful left is just doing its normal thing, but in the process..making this movement STRONGER!!! LOL..and its not about Fox, because, as usual the left has to blame someone or something for their insecurities. This is exactly what I could have predicted when Obama was nominated. He was only elected because of the "Race" issue. This is how its always been. Its just too bad that the previous administration was such a disaster, it was, and now this is what we get for the next 4 ys (at least).The situation that is happening in this country did not JUST happen with Obama, its been happening for a long..long time. And now the s$#% has finally hit the fan.Can this be turned around? Can we find a government that is actually going to do something for the Citizens of this country?? Nope!! Because in reality or government is run by other big interests..other countries..period. We know this, we all know this. And what is going on now, with all the division, anger, hate, race baiting...is really a good thing for the higher ups...they like all the unrest..because they can continue to do their thing in the background..so, just STOP...step back and look at this WHOLE picture, and you will see that we are ALL being manipulated to insure an agenda that is totally not in the best interest of the people...GET OFF THE STAGE, AND INTO THE AUDIENCE..you will see who is really in control, and then and only then can we take back out country..
I vote for the person with one very important endorsement...mine.
Let's talk about Reid who has been criticized for several potentially self-enriching tactics: In 2005 he earmarked a spending bill to provide for building a bridge between Nevada & Arizona that would make land he owned more valuable. Reid called funding for Construction of a bridge over the Colorado River, among other projects, good news after passage of the 2005 transportation bill. He owned 160 acres of land in Arizona & the bridge could add value to his real estate investment. Though he appeared to have a conflict of interests, the Senate Ethics Committee never brought a charge against him. Reid used campaign contributions to pay for $3300 in Xmas gifts to the condominium staff where he resides which is against fed election laws. He reimbursed his campaign, however. He was also brought under question as to his involvement in the Jack Abramoff Indian lobying scandal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Reid
In 1993 Harry Reid introduced the Immigration Stabilization Act: he said "In response to increased terrorism and abuses of social programs by aliens, (I)today introduced the first and only comprehensive immigration reform bill in congress. currently, an alien living illegally in the U.S. often pays no taxes but receives unemployment, welfare, free medical care and other federal benefits. Recent terrorist acts, including the World Trade Center bombing, have underscored the need to keep violent criminals out of the country." His bill provided for specific provisions that were morally and legally correct and exactly right 17 years ago. Why now does he oppose programs he once sponsored now that the problem is ten times greater after 9/11? Reid has voted for Mexico and against American every time the U.S. Senate has considered amnesty. He once was against illegal immigration before he was for it.
What has happened to Reid has happened to most politicians who make their office a career instead of an honor to serve. That is why we need term limits; that is why Reid must go. Instead of doing what is best for Nevadans, he will do what is best for himself by conforming to the dictates of his party. He has taken a 180 degree turn. Stop voting party and start researching the candidates. WE NEED NEW BLOOD!
Sue Lowden is a Harry Reid in a dress
dipstick just can't get any attention from anyone unless she calls the Tea Party Movement vulgar names.
So sad for the dipper...
Tripple777, Now that's a scary thought...