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Superintendent says parents can decide whether students see speech
Clark County School District Superintendent Walt Rulffes speaks to the media about President Barack Obama’s planned speech to students with Deputy Superintendent of Instruction Lauren Kohut-Rost, left, on Friday.
Friday, Sept. 4, 2009 | 5:31 p.m.
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Clark County School District Superintendent Walt Rulffes said Friday the district has received a “firestorm of calls” from parents about next Tuesday’s planned speech from President Barack Obama targeted at students.
Schools can decide whether to show the speech to students, but parents who don’t want their children to see the president’s speech can ask that their children be given an alternative activity, Ruffles said during a news conference today to address concerns of parents.
The district has instructed principals to determine how the speech will be used at each school, but students generally won’t see the speech unless it’s tied to related course work, such as in political or history classes. Obama has said he will use the speech to encourage students to work hard and stay in school.
Some parents are concerned the speech will advance a political agenda, but others want their children to hear from the president.
“I think there may have been some mixed messages that schools were going to mandate students watch this when that’s not the case at all,” Ruffles said. “It’s not going to be mandated and we neither endorse nor prohibit (it).
“The district’s goal is for academic achievement and if parents are concerned that there might be some political message woven into this then our goal is to stay on the academic track as opposed to the political track,” he said.
The speech will be shown live on the White House Web site and on C-SPAN at 9 a.m. Las Vegas time Tuesday.
News of Obama’s speech was met with criticism this week from some Republicans who accused the president of using the opportunity to promote a political agenda and overstepping the boundaries of federal involvement in schools.
The White House said the text of the speech will be posted online Monday so parents and educators can review the content before Obama addresses students. Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said Friday the speech would address high dropout rates, among other issues.
"I think we've reached a little bit of the silly season when the president of the United States can't tell kids in school to study hard and stay in school," Gibbs told reporters in Washington Friday morning. "I think both political parties agree that the dropout rate is something that threatens our long-term economic success."
Gibbs said former Republican presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush delivered similar speeches to students. He said Obama's speech would give children "a little encouragement as they start the school year."
Local parents had mixed feelings.
“We’ve had calls both ways, in terms of parents saying they would prefer their children not view the message and others who are saying they would like their children to, of course, see the message,” Deputy Superintendant of Instruction Lauren Kohut-Rost said.
Donna Schlemmer, who has volunteered with the local Democratic Party, said she supports the president and is glad he will tell her third-grade daughter the importance of staying in school.
“I don’t understand what all the ruckus is about,” she said. “Why turn it into a political thing? It’s not. It’s just talking to the kids about education and how important it is.”
Other parents have concerns about giving politicians access to their children.
“We have no problem with the president encouraging kids to do their best. Presidents have done that forever,” said Clark County GOP volunteer Joseph Tatner, who also has kids in the Clark County School District. “But there is a lot of concern because of the way this president has handled certain public events in the past. There is some concern about what he might say and what the real motive is behind it.”
A letter from the superintendant was sent to parents through the district’s ParentLink online system telling them to contact their child’s school if they didn’t want their student seeing the speech.
Kohut-Rost said many teachers might not show the speech because it doesn’t fit with their curriculum. Teachers are required to plan their lessons a week in advance, she said.
“Sometimes it’s difficult to shift an entire lesson plan and that’s why we’re saying (to teachers) if there’s a connection to what it is you’re teaching and it fits in then that option is available to teachers,” she said. “Furthermore, the option is available to parents of whether or not they want them to be viewing the message.”
Ruffles said the school district didn’t receive much advanced warning about the speech, and except for media reports, he doesn’t know what the president plans to say.
“I guess I wish there had been some opportunity for input because I think had school districts been asked through some kind of electronic means we might have had the opportunity to shed some light on what would fit better than what happened to occur,” he said.
The U.S. Department of Education has prepared some suggested activities for students to participate in before and after the speech, all of which are posted online.
“We’ve seen significant changes in those lesson plans over the last 48 hours,” Ruffles said, “so I suspect that there’s been some revisions that have occurred because of these concerns expressed by citizens throughout the country.”
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More broadly, should President BaraBlack NotQuiteAbrutha HusseinMadrassa OsamaKenyaBama -- Peace Be Upon Him -- be allowed to appear on television AT ALL during prime time when children might be viewing, without parental consent?
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Seriously: Americans have an increasingly bad case of The Stupids.
Mao, Hitler and Stalin did it. Why not Barak?
Little affection for children and young adults is seen as roots of this great recession :
1. Too few parents know about CHIP program.
2. They are more worried about the Afghanistan war than future energy.
3. Of young adults ages 19 to 29, 13.2 million, or 29 percent, lacked coverage in 2007.
current generation is to build a bridge for generations to come, and it will be great for both, too. By converting Incredible waste in health care system into funding for the uninsured young adults, both generations are better off after all, otherwise, Medicare and Medicaid system are also facing insolvency.
4. Two thirds of Americans don't understand what the Obama administration and Democrats in Congress are proposing, according to a new CBS poll.
5. War-focusing allies are afraid of Science / Innovation as they atempted to derail measurable educational investing in Recovery Act.
6. Let the president speak to kids: He is proof of education's power.
So it's OK for W to read a book with students while 9-11 goes down, but some people are afraid to have students listen to O give a speech about school?
A speech they will have access to anyway when it is replayed on the internet a billion times...
get over it
Too bad parents weren't this involved and outraged when the important issues arise, like dumbing down of curriculum, behavior problems, drug use, truancy, and apathy towards learning. Of course, all this is some else's fault, must be a hidden political agenda. Are your kids learning responsibility for their actions? It needs to start early.
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Sad, very sad indeed, when there is a segment of society who don't what their children listening to the President of the United States. Very un-American.
The rabid right-wingers have gone completely off the deep end. Who doesn't remember Reagan's speeches to our kids in school?
His message: stay in school, work hard, get good grades. Yup, right-wingers don't want their kids to hear that!
ksand99: They used to refer to that as "paranoid delusional." Today, apparently, it's called "patriotism."
Kids wont pay any attention to Obama, They only pay attention to the Hanson Brothers.
LarryVegas, steve795,
Reagan also gave a speech to students in 1988. Therefore by your own twisted logic, Reagan is just as bad as Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Caesar.
I would think Reagan fans would be pretty ticked off at you.
I don't seem to recall this kind of displeasure from the right when Reagan or someone named Bush did this. I'm sorry that so many of them are anti-American enough to be critical of the president. It shows they are unpatriotic and hate America.
You don't like that? Gee, I had to listen to it if I suggested Bush might be wrong. I think it's just jealousy that this is the first president in the lifetime of anyone in the fourth grade or earlier who knows more words in English than they do.
The fact that the CCSD REFUSED to send written notices home to parents regarding this issue is appalling. They automatically ASS-umed that every child has a home computer with internet access, which is rather disturbing in that unemployment here is almost 15%. Many people have had to cut back. The CCSD purposely attempted to bypass parents to get their agenda across. That is more horrific than anything in the president's speech.
Everyone is leaving out Pot Pol and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, who encouraged children to rat out their parents to the government.
If this were Truman or Eisenhower would there be a "firestorm"? The controversy is only in the minds of the "birthers" as they question the legitimacy of the President. They need to adjust their tinfoil hats and get over it. The fright wingers will attack anything the man does. He is the duly elected President of the United States of America. In 2012 you can vote for whomever you want, until then, let the man try and govern this Jerry Springer freak show we lovingly call America.
I don't recall any other president in my lifetime that associated with the likes of
Jerimiah Wright or Van Jones, both of whom fit the left boot very snugly.
Let the kids watch him babble, all he does is talk (no action), then they'll know just how much of an idiot is running the USA.
Um, We shouldn't Um, Let the Um, Students Um, Watch Um the Dumb President Um, talk Um period.
The guys a complete moron who can't even string together one complete sentance without saying "Um" forty five times.
What is Um going to teach our children?
How can the parents of CCSD students be outraged about a positive message to stay in school and do well by anyone escapes my logic... Where was the outrage when we received confirmation that Nevada ranked #48 in the nation in education?
It is clear that these balling parents and the state's Republicans are exhibiting "poor losers" behavior! The bottom line that they must understand is that history will remain the same -Mr. Obama is the 44th president of the United States of America, and there's nothing they will ever be able to do about this fact. God has spoken!
Yes, let's be real and political, here! Where was the outrage when our presidents were lining their pockets and setting themselves up for the kill by signing the NAFTA and the declaration of war that sent us into this economic mess?!
Nonetheless, folks, don't worry. Most of them will not be able to understand Mr. Obama's vocabulary. Thanks to most of CCSD and their illustrious teachers and faculty.
Shame on them.
Pretty sad when it scares people that the President of the United States wants to give a pro education speech to students. You think the President of the United States will harm your children with a speech? So sad.
I'd love to see the test scores of the children of parents who feel threatened by their children hearing what the leader of this country has to say to them. I'm willing to bet bottom 50%.
You right wingers have gone off the rails.
Absolute RUBBISH.
How childish of the parents.
And some folks posting above are either being completely disingenuous or...or...are paranoid dilusional, I guess. GROW UP.
"OH NO! He's black! He's half-black! He's Kenyun!
He's a socialist! He's evil! he's a muslim terrorist in disguise! mao&Hitler done it too! They're building these camps! Oh, the Inhumanity, he wants to SPEAK TO OUR CHILDREN! I Heard it on the TV, ETHEL! Grab the kids! Run for your liiiiiives! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
It is so obvious that the tea baggers, and birthers are racists. All of their manufactured "outrage" is because they are PO'd that we have a black president. When they scream "I want my country back," they are really saying "Get that n-----" out of the White house."
These are the same people who showed up at the Palin rallies last year screamng "N." These are the same people who think Fox News is "Fair and Balanced." These are the same people who think Glenn Beck is a serious comentator. These are the same people who listen to every word uttered by Rush Limbaugh and consider it 100% "Truth."
Sorry, in my earlier post I forgot that great American hero William Ayers. My bad.
It ain't about color children, its about unmitigated Left-wing politics which we will not abide.
You'll re-elect Bush and let his cronies rape and defile a nation and spread his uneducated attitude worldwide but won't let little Johnny get a pep talk from a sitting president? We have seen the one way street shift since the lame duck grabbed everything he and his oil controlling cronies could in the last half of his second term. You people have severely underestimated the wrath of thinking Americans and again have shown your true colors. Birdie might be right, so where does that leave you? And your kids?
Well vegasstudent, I am a parent who doesn't believe the liberal mesiah or his dark hearted apostles have the best intrests of anyone other than themselves in mind. My 8th grader who is in at least the 95th percentile on all subjects can chose to watch Barry read a teleprompter for 30 minutes if he wants to. I have taught him to fear any bureaucrat be they democrat, republican or other party who says they are from the government and are here to help and I am confident he will make the RIGHT choice on his own.
Ty Pennington host of extreme home makeover (DUI) Lindsey Lohan Child and teen actress (Drug and Alcohol Abuser), Kobe Bryant basketball player(Accused of Rape), Brandy Norwood singer/actress(hit and run)and Robert Downy Jr. (Former drug and alcohol abuser) star of Iron Man (comic book based action movie that most parents took their kids to see) are all individuals whom have had an impact on our children but yet they all have had major life transgressions but if they put out a PSA talking to students about the importance of staying in school there would not be a "fire storm" of phone calls in opposition. So why is it when our President and Commander in Chief Obama wants to address our American children he is ridiculed of having a political agenda that can be of a "negative consequence" or have ulterior motives? Why can't a man who has shown how academic drive can lead to great success address students about the importance of education and staying in school? President Obama is exactly the person who should speak to our nation's youth since he is truly a living story of what positive perseverance is all about even when your situation is not the easiest. Let's think people before we react!!
Why didn't Obama ever have a real job?
mikegino
'cause he studied to become a lawyer!!! lol
If a parent feels that strongly, then sign your child up for the alternate activity. It's not rocket science or brain surgery.
porter: and so did I, but I didn't need an affirmative action boost to get me into law school. Along the way I also served in the USMC and did my best on several continents to send Leftists to their Promised Land. Obama is a fraud and those of you who believe in his message and ascendancy are total fools.
mikegino
suffer the fools as we have and only time will tell my little boohrah.We are all born right handed, it's the great ones that overcome it.
And so what if it was John McCain instead of Obama!!!!? I know it wouldn't be this serious. Maybe there would be applause's! At least the man is trying something instead of nothing, more than what I can say about most parents! This is Freakin SAD.
Absolutely hysterical.
libsrevil, thank you so much for being EXIBIT A.
I don't have a problem with Obama talking to the students.
I am glad that the Department of Education clean up its act in suggesting some dubious activities in relation to the talk.
Thank God nobody is suggesting that Obama was either behind 9/11 or knew that was going to happen and did nothing.
Then we would be talking about going off the deep end of the pool....big time.
This is whole thing is much bull about nothing.
I don't support Obama and sure didn't vote for him, but he will be gone in three years, I don't see him doing anything other than encouraging a few kids to do better in school.
Mikegino: Thanks for your efforts to reduce leftists, too bad we can't do more to rid the US of this filth.
No this is HYSTERICAL!!!! I would understand if Obama was the one who brought our country to this all time great LOW, but he didn't, the REP and the name of BUSH did. So for a man who won the elections FAIRLY to get so much Drama for fixing someone Else's massive global blunder and instead of just getting support just gets criticized and if they could crucified! Were suppose to be Americans who support their leader even if they don't agree with their ideas.
porter-rockwall: I always was told that being left-handed was the sign of the Devil. Quien sabe? I also believe we are born with certain political orientations. I am a proud but effective reactionary. Obama and his puppet master Emanuel totally miscalculated the degree to which Americans of all ages love their country. My motto always has been ATTACK!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! There is simply nothing to say to this. One can only laugh at the idiocy of these parents. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
mikeguano
attack as you may esq.I'm sure you will eventually become a good lawyer and a good standard bearer also for your failed prior administration. 47,000 servicemen and women serving our country proudly yet outnumbered by private contractors to the tune of 74,000 earning six figures for Blackwater. Politics set up by the little skull and cross bone follower?
Yet I'll defer since this is not about politics right?
Ronald Reagan and G. H Bush also gave the same type of speech to students.
Mike
"Why didn't Obama ever have a real job?"
I guess being a lawyer isn't a job for rightnuts.
I wouldn't let this fraud talk to the hand, Much less my children!
Porter1rockwell: Right on the money!!!
Aren't Bush the Old and McCain left handed also.Mike you might have something there!
I know for one, I am thankful that we still have the option of being able to speak for our children. On this specific matter, at least we can choose whether our children participate in this. If we choose to not have our children participate in this, and then watch the video ourselves and decide to let our children view it, this makes us more active parents in our childrens lives. Just becuase it is the school and/or President does not necessarily mean it is in the best interest of our children. The bad thing about this, is let us hope that what we see on tv regarding the violence about pro-Obama/pro-healthcare versus anti-Obama/anti-healthcare does NOT transfer over to our schoolyards because of this. That would be truly sad. Because bringing political issues into our schools with our children fighting about them, dividing now our children to choose a side, is NOT what education is about.
If Obama was a white guy there would not be all this hoopla! Remember on 9/11 when the idiot Bush was in a classroom in Tampa and the kid was reading him the book because Bush cannot read beyond a 4th grade level???
At least Obama wants to see the graduation rate rise and stop all this welfare!
Hey, I wonder of Sonia Sotomayer wanted to give the students a speech if this would happen???
Why would I want a racist like sonia saying anything to my children.Imagine, Now children just because your white that doesn't make you right.
The badmouthers,(I imagine mostly republicans), gripe and complain that our schools are so bad, and that THEY(whoever THEY might be) don't have moral values, are communists, and leach off the government, and THEIR parents don't do their job. And then they brag about how for themselves, they have a work ethic, save their money and stash it in their mcmansions. Then these badmouthers forget they have had a role model, who probably had enough money and a mcmansion to stay at home and teach badmouthing republicans, telling and teaching them from day one what is necessary to become successful in society. Well, some guy finally decides to think outside the box and do something about THEY, for just one day, whereas you guys have had this type of thing your whole life. Instead, these badmouthing Republicans want to spend millions on tests that are completely meaningless and don't teach how to think. You badmouthing Republicans are so illogical and moronic, I think you should go back to school and take some logic classes because your mcmansion mommies forgot that part of the curriculum.
I,m Cuban raised in the U.S.A. I Know the history of Cuba since Castro took over,the steps that he took,like taking over businesses, farms,factories,education, is a socialists way of operating, Obama reminds me of the Castro regime.
OMG! I wouldn't care as a democrat if a republican president gave such a speech.. a man in the highest office telling my child to stay in school and maybe they can be president one day--that's a good message. I guess repubs can't see how their party wants to keep them and their kids STUPID so they keep voting against their own best interests. Please wise up... demand more from your party. They are HURTING you...
Hey there is sale on earplugs. Just go to the safety supply store. While there why don't you pick up some welders goggles and a respirator. That way you will see no democrats, hear no democrats and speak to no democrats. I love 'merica cause, we got the smartest people in the world! Now I got to my remedial thinkin' class. So I will see ya later, the short bus is comin' the corner. Thinkin ain't one of my strong points, Maybe Glenn Beck can tell me how to think! HA HA HA HA.
I agree with you CubanGuy...this stunt by Obama is Fidel Castro/Hugo Chavezish tactics. Barrack Obama is a Socialist and his actions reflect these tactics. I think we truly screwed up by electing him as the United States President as he has not acted like a president but more as a dictator.
Mr Obama, are you smarter than a 5th grader?
" I think we truly screwed up by electing him as the United States President "
You didn't. We elected him and our vote counted. Now shut up and learn to be the party out of power, you racist know-nothings.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=...
That is all I have to add to this discussion.
Mikegino, republican internet tough guy - exhibit A.
Thinks republicans have an exclusive relationship with US military service and the 2nd amendment, and dreams of some hilarious 'revolution'. OOooooooooh, I am so scared.
Republican children. All bark, no bite.
The right wingers must believe that the rest of the population is as stupid as they are. They live in a fantasy world where Democrats are all pinko socialists trying to take away their freedoms and money. The sad fact is that most of them have been brainwashed by hate radio or hate internet, but good.
The latest stupid right winger operation to make a mountain out of a molehill will not be their last. Frankly, I've been sick and tired of their petty, childish mentality for years now.
Sen. Kit Bond calls for removal of Obama's avowed communist green jobs CZAR. Is this who Obama wants to talk to the kiddies about? This guy is anti-America, anti-capitalist white hating racist. Google Van Jones, ask your friends how this ex convict is now in the White House at Obama's side.
http://bond.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?...
"Unfortunately, this episode is just the latest in a pattern of Mr. Jones' incendiary remarks that only divide Americans and make positive change for the future more difficult. Earlier this year in a speech in Berkeley, California on energy, Mr. Jones referred to Republicans in crude scatological words unfit for print. Last year, Mr. Jones in a radio interview stated his goals as a "complete revolution" to "transform the whole society" away from capitalism. These recent comments remove the credibility of his assertions that his past radical statements and actions such as the creation of the group Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM) rooted in Marxism and Leninism merely reflect youthful sentiments in the distant past.
Despite Mr. Jones' continuing erratic and outrageous behavior, he occupies a senior "czar" position in the White House. He obtained this position without U.S. Senate advice and consent and without oversight of his activities. And yet, Mr. Jones is responsible for directing administration policy and spending on tens of billions of dollars in taxpayer funding regarding environmental policy and green jobs programs. Many hold out the prospect of green jobs as one of the few practical benefits of pending cap and trade legislation in the face of groups such as the National Black Chamber of Commerce which predict that such legislation will destroy over 2.5 million net jobs, even after the creation of potential new green jobs.
While I am skeptical of the ability of green jobs programs to provide meaningful numbers of new jobs without heavy continuing taxpayer subsidies or mandates that destroy millions of traditional jobs, I hope you agree that we cannot risk whatever new green jobs are in our nation's future to unsound and unpredictable leadership.
Refusal to conduct an oversight hearing by the Subcommittee would heighten concern over whether this administration is committed to mainstream, inclusive, positive leadership and policies. While we may differ in our policy prescriptions to protect the environment and spur job creation, I hope you will agree that the Senate and our Subcommittee have a responsibility to ensure that administration stewards of taxpayer funds and government policy are capable of the jobs entrusted to them.
I look forward to your consideration and response to this request. Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Christopher S. Bond
U.S. Senator
Again, should President Sheikh bin al BaraBlack NotQuiteAbrutha HusseinMadrassa OsamaKenyaBama -- Peace Be Upon Him, Who Wants To Watch As Your Doctor Examines You-- be allowed to appear on television AT ALL during prime time when children might be viewing, without parental consent?
When I picked my daughter up from school the other day I asked her teacher if she was going to have the kids watch this. The first thing she said to me is that is science time and that is what is important to me. Then she told me that she does not allow her students to watch anything that she has not first had a chance to see. Me personally I am undecided if I want my kids viewing it or not. I did not vote for him and i do not agree with his policies but he is the POTUS. I do say Kudos to my daughters 5th grade teacher at Tanaka. I feel she has her education ducks in a row.
Come on, let the President further his socialist agenda. It's all about him... Hail Caesar...
Anyone know the definition of "Cult?"
BARACK OBAMA: We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a Civilian National Security Force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
Questions for kids:
Why do we need a new peoples army?
Who is the enemy?
Will I have to join Obama's army after school?
Obama's army? CNSF can't be for the border, can't be for "terrorists" because there aren't any. So this army must be for...?
This is much ado about nothing of significance. Parents are wrangled that their kids might have to watc and listen to a video from the president that just might encourage them to study and stay in school.
On the other hand they are not upset about their kids spending endless hours playing computer games, texting idiodic messages to their peers, wasting time doing nothing, or spending endless hours practicing sports. Parents hav no objections or qualms of spending hours with their kids teaching them to pitch, catch, dribble, kick or run with a ball; all of this is in the hopes that their child will become the rich and famous superstar athlete of the future; no consideration is given that adequate time studying and learning how to read proficiently, do math, write effectively and to become a well rounded and educated citizen might lead them to riches as well.
Most parents are not involved in their child's education unless they are rankled by low grades or some disciplinary notification that they must give some attention and time to in conferences at school.Too many do not spend time helping with studies or even assuring that thei child completes homework before venturing outside to play or participate in sports.
For too many the last time they gave any attention to their child was at the moment of birth...after that the kid is basically on its own...fend for your self "Jonnie or Jane" ...
LarryVegas said...
"Anyone know the definition of "Cult?"
Try John Ensign, he should know.... If not, e-mail the governor of South Carolina. Mark Sanford.
this just goes to show how much the American public does NOT trust this socialist/communist......it goes to show that people are no longer fooled by his reading of the teleprompter.......that people have had enough of him trying to destroy this country and not even doing it beind closed doors.....good for you U.S. public and parents do not trust this man, he as proven over and over that he CANNOT be trusted by the groups he associated with, by his overspending, by his racist remarks and connections.....the sheep will follow this fool over the cliff, but those that can think for themselves are seeing through his smoke screen....too bad they didnt see it sooner before they voted this fool in
vsestini said....
"Most parents are not involved in their child's education unless they are rankled by low grades or some disciplinary notification that they must give some attention and time to in conferences at school.Too many do not spend time helping with studies or even assuring that thei child completes homework before venturing outside to play or participate in sports."
Well said....It appears you have been there....
A friend of mine, who teaches at one of the CCSD high schools in the district, says there's normally two questions that a parent immediately wants the answer to in a parent conference.
The two questions are "can Johnny make up all the work he has missed" and "what can Johnny do for extra credit?"
I wouldn't want my kids to listen to a politican who was born in Indonesia, a muslim country, and who secretly is advancing the fundamentals of Islam, would you?
smoke14......
I'm not sure what you're smoking but stop it immediately! Its interfering with your your "cognitive domain"...
afveteran said...
"I wouldn't want my kids to listen to a politican who was born in Indonesia, a muslim country, and who secretly is advancing the fundamentals of Islam, would you?"
Hmmmmmm.....I wonder who you're referring to?
The last thing I heard from Rush on right-wing radio is that Obama is a socialist who looks and sounds like Adolf Hitler....
Boy, that Obama is really a busy guy. A muslim by birth, a socialist politically who has a Hitler like message, all in the name of Islam..
no clas, no brains, no ideas, just racists. we probably don't know half of what these people really are like, but i pity their families
smoke14 said....
"the sheep will follow this fool over the cliff, but those that can think for themselves are seeing through his smoke screen....too bad they didnt see it sooner before they voted this fool in.."
Sounds like something that was said not long after the 2000 presidential election....Of course, nothing was more true as history clearly points out!
Wow! Wasn't that GWB really something? A living example of what a complete idiot can achieve if backed with enough money and a constant barrage of right-wing propaganda...
Hail Caesar...
Anyone know the definition of "Cult?"
El Lobo doesn't... so...
A cult is a group or movement exhibiting a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some person, idea or thing and employing unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control designed to advance the goals of the group's leaders to the actual or possible detriment of members, their families, or the community.
the kids could care less; most of you morons remind me of the idiot at the kids ball game complaining about the coach or the ump; do the country a favor, go to the liquor store, buy a twelve pack of pabst blue ribbon, sit down in front of your tv and watch the test pattern.
Thump,
"the perception of deceitfulness" seems to fit your posts pretty well. Again, I went back and read your cut and paste offerings on the first order of business our new President signed. If you read beyond the headlines I think you will see he RESCINDED the order of secrecy that Bush II supported and was praised for doing the right thing.Maybe I'm reading it wrong but thank you for bringing to our attention.I'm up to the 350's on my glasses from the dollar store. Forgive me if I'm wrong. It's the American Way!!
LarryVegas....
Are you saying that John Ensign and Mark Sanford aren't part of the "Cult" that exist in Washington D.C.? You know what I'm referring to, don't you?
The "promise keepers" are those who believe that they aren't required to be "faithful" to their wives as long as they are "faithful" to the special little religious group that lives together and prays together just blocks from the Capital...
I believe they refer to themselves as the "chosen ones."
That my friend is a "CULT."
dipstick.....
Well said! Straight to the point!
I think alot of the problem with JOHNNY is the teachers have no control over the classrooms anymore. The teachers in my day demanded respect, otherwise they would not hesiate to get it from you, by whatever means! I can't tell you how many times I got to audition for the paddle dance but I deserved every one of them. Today, little JOHNNY gets timeout or if the teacher wants to be really creative they recommend the latest drug to really dummy him down.Lack of
spock....
You hit the nail on the head. The teacher's no longer have complete control of their class room. Unfortunately schools don't operate that way any more.
Actually, a majority of our teacher's are better trained and educated that most teacher were during our school days, but they are required to spent way too much time neutralizing the bad behavior of a few trouble making students.
The schools, in many cases, have become "gathering places for bad behavior."
The old saying that a "few bad apples can spoil a barrel" is very true with America's schools.
I think that it is rather silly to not want the President to encourage students to excel in school. I believe that the protest over this is the frustration those of us who are conservitive are feeling about many things that this administration is doing. From the tremendous amount of deficit spending, appointing CZARS such as Van Jones and all the rest it is simply going to manifest itself as being against anything that the President does. I wish it wasn't going to be this way for the next three years but I suspect it will. Actually, when I think about it, this is nothing new and this spiteful political climate has been building for decades. I don't know who is more to blame, our elected officials who only care about power and their re-election (both sides of the aisle) or us for believing what they say and not holding them accountable.
El Lobo... You missed the point again... The topic at hand is "School district addresses Obama speech 'firestorm'", not Tom, Dick or Harry are unfaithful to each other.
A cult is a group or movement exhibiting a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some PERSON, idea or thing and employing unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control designed to advance the goals of the group's leaders to the actual or possible detriment of members, their families, or the community.
I only have one problem with obama,EVERYTHING!
racists! by any other name, you sound like you hate america and it's president, racists (listening to these arguments I swear you SUPPORT terrorists who hate america) racists hate the president because of the color of his skin, being educated is not enough, trying to encourage students is not enough, equating the President to Castro--go back to Cuba and take the rest of the racists with you..So many arguments have come out against this president who is doing nothing different than the other white presidents --you are all racists--Where was the outrage when we sunk to terrorists tactics of torture, when oil rose and tanked the economy, when Las Vegas over built--there wasn't any--but others vote a black man in and you unamerican racists call him every name in the book--leave america if you hate it so much--you are equal to terrorists and those that hate america--he wants to help the uninsured and kids--how dare he-racists
Wakeup: Maybe you should go back to sleep until you can get your facts straight. Not voting for Obama has little or nothing to do with the color of his skin...and EVERYTHING TO DO WITH HIS POLITICS. But keep deluding yourself that just because people don't agree with him they are racists. I think that just makes you sound like an idiot.
When black people didn't like what Bush stood for, was it because of the color of his skin... or the fact that his ideologies didn't work for them? Big. Scary. Question.
We were all BUSHWACKED my friend! That doesn't mean you have to run the ship full speed ahead having never used a compass! Take our "daddy don't hurt me,I know your a racist" B.S. and grow up! May waterboarding become standard procedure for anyone who is the enemy of the UNITED STATES!
Wakeup: Congratulation, you were able to use the word racist five times in one paragraph. I hope you are proud of that feat. I just went back and read all the posts on this discussion and did not find any posts that would be considered "racist" in nature. If you find one then address the writer personally.
If I'm racist does that mean I watch NASCAR?
President Obama is leader of the free world. He is our highest elected official. He is the BOSS and deserves the respect. It is so unusual for citizens to not see the benefit to children of receiving a peptalk from their country's Commander in Chief.
We the people voted him into office because he was the absolute best candidate to lead us out of the horrible situation that the previous administration had left us in while feeding Wall-Street with silver spoons and the insurance giants with golden promises for all the lovely campaign donations they made.
The President of the United States of America has the ability to affect children's attitudes to assure their attendence and participation as well as to encourage great achievement. The minds of those too small to judge this are too small to make the judgement for their children.
jsayler, I don't have a problem with the President speaking to school children but when he attempts to use these children to further his political agenda that many call socialist, I, like a lot of others, do have a problem. This presidency appears to be approaching cult status.
A cult is a group or movement exhibiting a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some PERSON, idea or thing and employing unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control designed to advance the goals of the group's leaders to the actual or possible detriment of members, their families, or the community.
It's all about him...
every time I read this paper and a story is about a nonwhite racists holler "see what side of town it's in, I bet the person is not white" when President Obama follows the same roles as past president's and people holler he's a socialist--it doesn't take a scientist to figure out these are all racists sentiments. I live in Las Vegas I hear the talk from the uneducated " we don't have those types of people where I grew up, illegals zapping our public money, I wouldn't work in that part of town" I've experienced more racism in Las Vegas than I ever did growing up in Boston. People in Las Vegas don't have as much education as in Boston and it shows. to get out of the Depression America had to spend money, today's government learned from the Depression, they are following the lessons learned from the Depression or would the racists calling the president a socialist rather stand in line for bread and let the banks fail? please educate yourselves--oh wait this is Vegas ignorance abounds
I think BOSTON is one person short!
fuzz,
typical distortion of the facts from you.Cut and run tactics so typical of the type of person you espouse to be. All bluster and no backbone hiding behind your keyboard. I read quite well thank you. I didn't blame God I said it was an "act of God" which legally means "it rained" I blame Bush for alot of things as you do Obama.
I don't disparage until disrespected. I post because there needs to be a voice, a counterpoint to your Tolstoy leanings.I dont respond to everyones posts yet have been inspired to by people like you.And as far as transparency goes I'm about as clear as I can be in a world of muddied issues.Thanks for allowing to post on your board.
Darn... wakeupe only used the word "racist" four times in her last rant compared to five in her previous rant.
I guess that I am not much eduacated because I thinks that Sociallists comes in all colors, sexes, ages and sexual permissions. I dont cornsider meself a racest cause i figer that al people are created equal.
Please, no more name calling...
OKAY! Let's run the tally; So far, President is:
notquiteabrotha
hussainmadrassa
osamakenyabama
shiekh bin al
barablack
Caesar
liberalmisiah(?)
socialist
communist
fraud
village idiot
Who espouses the theories of Mao, Hitler, Chavez,
Pol-Pot,and Castro.
AND wants to secretly advance the fundamentals of Islam.
NONE OF THIS means you are racist. Just worried parents.
For the advancement and betterment of Humankind, you fear his message.
And now, HE'S AFTER YOUR CHILDREN.
Alrighty, then! Well Said! Lot's of intelligent participation today.
To EL LOBO: I taught in this district for 30 years and 10 years concurrently at that time at The Meadows School. Public or private school from the 1980's on I noticed few parents wanted real excellence in teaching and teachers. They wanted good grades (A's and B's) for their kids with minimal homework, easing of grading standards, fewer notices of missing homework, discipline problems and elimination of any kind of weekend project work, ie. science fair projects.
My colleagues in the CCSD tell me that teaching today is a living HELL and a risk to life and limb because of the lack of discipline and authority for classroom control and management.
I loved teaching more than breathing or eating because when I started in 1960 it was fun and the students enjoyed learning. The parents were suppotive and administrators were there as adjunct support for things that really mattered in teaching. It's all different today and I thank God above I am out of it...
The education of this nation is going into the toilet and there is little that will stop it until teachers are again given full control of the classroom via discipline, control over classroom mangement policies and procedures and any academic requirements. To me, when I retired in 1990, it was simply 'leave my kid alone, he needs to do his sports...homework is in the way'
gmag39, You think that's bad. You should have heard all the names that Birdie was called today...
You can add NOT WANTED to your list.
vsestini,
Virgil, I remember you. Thanks for those years when discipline and education meant something more than a football scholarship and the preening of proud parents.
Absolute RUBBISH.
How childish of the parents.
And some folks posting above are either being completely disingenuous or...or...are paranoid dilusional, I guess. GROW UP.
"OH NO! He's black! He's half-black! He's Kenyun!
He's a socialist! He's evil! he's a muslim terrorist in disguise! mao&Hitler done it too! They're building these camps! Oh, the Inhumanity, he wants to SPEAK TO OUR CHILDREN! I Heard it on the TV, ETHEL! Grab the kids! Run for your liiiiiives! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Lets all log on to www.brusselsjournal.com and see what we have in store, what they in Western Europe have been struggling with for the past 7-8 years and headed in this direction, get on your hipboots.....
David1921:
How about...
Let's don't and say we did...
I LOVE a good BEER story!
"BELCH" That was good.
Ah it's so refreshing to see this unrestrained outpouring of hate in its purest form. Now that's keeping it real, ugly but real. Forget about all the crazy rationalizations and character assassination -- the fact is previous presidents have addressed American schoolchildren, and no one gave it a second thought. In fact, when I was a kid back in the 60s all of us in gym class had to take The President's Physical Fitness Test. And those who passed were awarded with a special certificate. Can you imagine the outcry nowadays in these silly, sad and divisive times, if any president, especially a black Democrat tried to promote such a program?
Folks, if we can't even get it together as a nation to listen to a generic, soporific speech from our democratically elected leader, then how are we ever going to tackle and succeed with the hard stuff? But now is as good a time as any to put this nation to the test to see if we're going to let those who scream the loudest and lie the most have their way. It's just too bad that America's schoolchildren are caught in the crossfire of so many mixed messages: on the one hand. Schools set up their little student councils, and have their civics classes. But on the other hand, if you win major elective office in real life, you're accused of being a Martian and a third cousin of Bigfoot. Democracy as it stands in the US right now is not a very inviting or productive model to inculcate our young with.
Let's see...
Did Kennedy say: Don't ask what your President can do for you? Ask what you can do for your President?
Kennedy said: "Bartender give me a double".
You know obama said to judge him by the people he surrounded himself with. WOW,now that's quite the motley crew there! Talk about in your face corruption and racism! Don't post your crap and try to sell it as icecream, We are being lead into a banana republic.
That's some pretty fancy writing there Brooks except we do not live in a "democracy", check your history.
" As Benjamin Franklin was exiting after writing the U.S. constitution, a woman asked him Sir, what have you given us?. He replied A republic ma'am, if you can keep it".
vesti, I don't agree with you very often, but as to your last post, very well said.
Pt I: As for "Did Kennedy say: Don't ask what your President can do for you? Ask what you can do for your President?" No he didn't. But then again I think the original wording of the President Obama's solicitation is asking for ideas to help him help the country, which is the job the American people elected him to do. But anyway, back to JFK, my point is that if he had tried to institute a similar program today, regardless of its merits or what he said, his words would have been twisted and misreported, and he would have been crucified.
Pt II: sanddunes, no need for remedial history. I'm well aware that we live in a republic; my original comment said nothing to the contrary. However, our leaders are democratically elected -- hopefully, that's still the case.
This is fun -- keep it coming!
LarryVegas said...
"Did Kennedy say: Don't ask what your President can do for you? Ask what you can do for your President?"
Close but no cigar. Kennedy actually said:
"Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country."
Spock, that is illogical.
No... Kennedy said: " Bartender give me a double, where's my Oldsmobile, Maryjo lets go".
sanddunes said...
"That's some pretty fancy writing there Brooks except we do not live in a "democracy", check your history."
Actually we live in a democratic-republic. The Founders established a republican form of government, but the nature of our government has slowly changed over the last 200+ years.
I might add that the change has been for the better....I believe people such as Ben Franklin and Thomas jefferson would agree with that....
spocanon said....
"No... Kennedy said: " Bartender give me a double, where's my Oldsmobile, Maryjo lets go".
Hmmmmm.... appears to be the correct booze but the wrong Kennedy.... Also, JFK liked "caddy's." When it came women, he liked many, but Hollywood starlets named Marilyn were best....
El Lobo wins the prize...
With Kennedy, it was all about country.
With Obama, it is all about himself.
Two tasks that students were to do after speech:
Students "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."
Another task recommended for students immediately after listening to the speech: to engage in a discussion about what "the president wants us to do."
With Kennedy is was about country. But with Obama it is about HIM.
LarryVegas....
We can argue this until the "cows come home" and neither one of us would change our views but what's new?
The proof will be in the pudding when it comes to what kind of job Obama is going to do....
I happen to believe he's off to a good start despite the fact he's being opposed by the millions and millions of "sore losers" who threw their vote away by voting for McBush...
You remember McBush don't you? He's the guy who had great difficulty keeping most facts straight. He's the guy who said, just a few hours before he suspended his campaign and headed to Washington to "save the economy," that the economy was in excellent shape and there was no recession on the horizon...
He's the same guy who got the "Sunnis" and the "Shiites" confused and changed his views each time he changed his underware....daily!
You talk about JFK.....I wonder if you can actually remember JFK. How old were you when Kennedy was elected in 1960? Did you vote for him? Where were you when Kennedy was assassinated? Do you remember Kennedy's Berlin speech? How about the Bay of Pigs Invasion or the Cubam Missle Crisis?
I remember all of it...just like it was yesterday!
As where my logic is not of your liking,One can only hope that the statement still to be true.Please tell me where I strayed! I feel so cold and alone now.
I remember when Kennedy went Oldsmobile surfing.
Obama does not really care about left or right.
He knows the lib koolaid lingo and will repeat it if allowed to. That is why that they are constant putting the prompter in his face so to prevent him from babling the lib koolaid lingo.
Obama worked his way up in the worst corruption food chains in the USA....Chicago. He is 100% a crook. He appointed one of the biggest crooks in DC as his chief of staff...that guy is the Democrats' version of Tom Delay.
PvtRock said....
Obama does not really care about left or right.
Are you saying that Obama is actually a moderate? Most of your "posting pals" says he's a socialists.....the last time I looked, those people (socialists) are located over on the far left.
PvtRock said....
Obama worked his way up in the worst corruption food chains in the USA....Chicago. He is 100% a crook. He appointed one of the biggest crooks in DC as his chief of staff...that guy is the Democrats' version of Tom Delay.
The Democrats' version of Tom Delay? Strange way of saying it! Your hate for Obama is never yielding..... Your rant is always predictable.
I guess, according to you, Obama must really be a "master magician." I guess you're saying that he fooled some 69 million people into voting for him... Do I have that right?
As I have said several times on this board...the success or lack of success of the Obama presidency will be determined by what happens over the next 3 1/2 years with the economy; the war in the Middle East (thanks George...) and what happens with health care reform.
I will say this....Obama on his very worst day is 1000% better than George W. Bush was on his very best day....
How long will it take for the Bush nightmare to become a distant memory?
Of course they dont their kids listening to a black president. If bush was in office i would be ok.
How is obama fraud? Could it be said that every president is a fraud? Can you explain to me exactly what president had the "people's" interest at heart? Seriously, you fools are brainwashed.
THE economy,The war, and health care.That's quite the trifecta for a person that has never held a regular job much less run a dollar store.
The comments above go a great way towards explaining why drivers are so horrible in this town. I always assumed it was poor eye sight but now I understand it is plain stupidity or tinfoil hats covering the eyes and hands wringing instead of driving.
Absolutely unbelievable.
And Thumper: way to go on the reading comprehension there. Outstanding! If you need a tutor I can recommend a few. I bet you wish there was an edit feature on older posts about now don't ya? Genius.
dmface said...
Of course they dont (want) their kids listening to a black president. If bush was in office i would be ok.(with that)
That's actually funny! If GWB was in office, and he was going to talk with students across the country, as Obama will do on Tuesday, one must ask the question "what will George say to the students?"
I guess he could tell them that it's very important that they have a very politically powerful father who has very rich friends. That way, any screw-ups by you will be taken care of by father and friends... The bottom line message could be that money solves all problems...
I wonder if that bit of information would motivate poor kids to become rich? Novel idea....
spock said....
"THE economy,The war, and health care.That's quite the trifecta for a person that has never held a regular job much less run a dollar store."
That's a valid point but keep in mind that never having a job (change that to mean never was successful in carrying out a job) didn't slowed down the mentally challenged man from Texas, did it?
Of course we're talking about solving problems and not creating problems....Right?
George was great at the latter (creating problems) but pretty poor at the former (solving problems).....
George bush was a complete failure in his last term to me,It was to the point I couldn't stand hearing or looking at this person anymore.This obama dude comes off the same way!
thus the phrase...
retarded republicans!!!
It's all George Bush's fault that Obama's parade had run into reality roadblocks. What the heck is birdi doing in anyone's bottom?
I understand it was a long article and there was no radio host to read it to you so you may have become confused. It's OK, no one here is surprised.
I thinks that El Lobo needs to get a lobotomy and have that there "Bush" tumor removed. In most of his posts, he goes off on George Bush. Maybe he does not know that George is not longer in the White House.
Hey, Wolf... It's time to turn around and look forward. You keep looking back for George, but he's not there anymore...
Hey Larry; When Katrina left New Orleans, I bet they looked back for a long time. I bet there are many still looking back now.
Again, if a parent feels that strongly, then sign your child up for the alternate activity. It's not rocket science or brain surgery. It's not a great debate.
If you don't want your kids to participate in a particular school activity, sign them up for the alternate activity.
If you don't want your children watching something on TV or listening to a song on the radio, don't you switch to another station or channel? I do!!
You're the parent, enforce your parental rights. It's simple.
gmag39: There were plenty of levels of government to blame after Katrina. City Government, Parish Government, State Government and the Federal Government. It starts with the city and goes up until it reaches the Federal level.
Because of "State Rights" the Federal Government can NOT come into a State until they have been asked.
But, if you want to think that everything was the fault of George Bush, then just keep on thinking that.
Heheh, Oh thumper. I really got your goat didn't I?
You admit and deny your racist fears all in the same post.
You have all of the delusions of paranoia and grandeur required for Paranoid Schizophrenia .
All your typing and pseudo-patriotism and cyber defense of ideas and ideals that you obviously don't know anything about. One would think that if one was going to engage in an xenophobic rant that one would at least be wholly fluent in native language.
http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/dif...
How adult of you thumper. Calm down little buddy.
George W. Bush is no longer President of the United States of America.
Thank God for that!!!
This so simple to me, if you don't want your kids to listen to the President don't let them, if its ok, they can. Its the same concerning any other person or situtation. The choice is your and ours, a free country.
Hey saltydawg:
What??? "George W. Bush is no longer President of the United States of America." No kidding???
Several of the people posting here must not know that, because Bush is still being blamed for everything from Hurricanes to ingrown toenails.
Bush is getting blamed for the failure of the government to timely pay the dealers for participation in the "Cluster for Cash" program.
Hey LarryVegas: Fixed it for you.
John McCain is not President of the United States.
Thank God for that.
Thanks saltydawg for the heads up on that one.
If John McCain was president, we all might be drinking Budweiser after he passed the Beer Reform Act making Budweiser the "Public Option" receiving tax payer money to boost profits. All the other brands had to sell their beer at prices lower then cost and all went broke.
Who is this guy Bush and why does his name ring a bell?
And who is Scaramouche and why does he wear that mask?
In a wreck, need a check?
I'm practicing to be a card-carrying liberal.
I live in southeastern North Carolina, and have just recently been reading the Las Vegas Sun to get a feel for the people in your area, and your thoughts. My wife and I plan on retirement in the Henderson area...so I am keeping up with your current events in the news...and the Blogs.
After reading these comments on Obama's TV speech from the people of the Vegas area...I must say those comments are more on the educated side of the road instead of what I read here (locally) on our news website. In other words...there is a little more constructive ideas and humor then what I have been used to reading recently from the Humidity Bowl of the USA...here in North Carolina!!
To be honest...there is more negative concern here where I live about this speech...then when we have a tropical storm or hurricane heading towards us. Go figure :-(
Keep up the good work...LV!!! :-)
Naybe you are all just missing the big picture.
Something big is coming your way in "2012"
Sorry for the TYPO above . That first word should have been "Maybe" not Naybe.
Ah... December 21, 2012... Stock up on beer...
Personal attacks mean nothing on this style of forum. Leave them for the other styled forums.
What a bunch of racist pigs here just droning on spewing misinformation and gorging themselves at troft of ignorance.
Hey, let's all beat up on Barack for encouraging children to make a go of life in spite of their stupid parents, in spite of all the hate Rush can foment and in spite of the ignorant fears that here demonstrate what kind of deep-seated intolerance of others dominates the gray matter in the US.
Who are you talking about LV4LIFE?
Please explain what a "racist pig" is. Don't think I have ever seen one....
And explain the misinformation so someone can reply.
In my travels today I encountered a racist horse, a racist donkey, a racist dog, a racist cat, and a racist fish. But I didn't see a single racist pig.