Fireﬁghters glad to train in shell of Fontainebleau

Steve Marcus

Las Vegas Fire Capt. Brian Gray watches theatrical smoke being used for a ventilation demonstration during a walk-through last Monday for a multi-agency training exercise at the Fontainebleau. Firefighters from all Las Vegas Valley departments will take part in the drills.

By Brendan Buhler (contact)

Monday, Oct. 19, 2009 | 2 a.m.

High-rise fire training

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In the next month, the wrecked economy will deliver an important public safety benefit: Las Vegas Valley firefighters will get a chance to train for one of the city’s worst nightmares, a high-rise hotel fire. And they’ll do in it in a real but unfinished high rise, the stalled Fontainebleau.

Most years, the valley’s four fire departments — North Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Henderson and Clark County — conduct drills at local resorts, said Las Vegas Fire & Rescue Capt. Brian Gray, who is organizing this year’s drills. And this year has a bit of that, too, with a reenactment in early October of a fire at Texas Station as it would sound over the dispatch radio.

Gray said the Fontainebleau is a unique opportunity to not only train for multiple days inside a large property without disrupting and trying to work around staff and customers but also to tour an unfinished property and see how a modern megaresort is built — how the walls are built, what materials are used inside elevator shafts, how far above casino floors sprinklers are mounted — information that could save the lives of tourists and firefighters.

“We can’t thank Fontainebleau management enough for this opportunity,” Gray said.

Preparing for the drills took three months, Gray said. The largest challenge is to arrange training dates and times that would allow every firefighter in the valley to attend, barring illness or vacation. The training will culminate in a full-scale simulated fire in early November, the details of which will not be known in advance by the firefighters. The first training was a walk through of the property last Monday, a chance for the firefighters to reacquaint themselves with the tasks of high-rise firefighting before the major drill.

“It’s not our typical house fire, which we’re very good at. But we find that when we’re trying to respond to high-rise fires, we’re treating them like they’re regular houses, which doesn’t work,” Gray said.

Among the differences, Gray said, are long hallways and tall flights of stairs, the last one being an especially brutal concern for the first firefighters to arrive, since the multiagency plan for high-rise fires says that before reinforcements arrive and secure the elevators, all firefighters must take the stairs and carry their equipment up with them.

Another challenge firefighters will face is that all four fire departments use slightly different equipment and radio lingo. The unified command that plans for high-rise fires is standardizing the radio etiquette, but for the foreseeable future there will still be minor differences in hose types and spray nozzles. One of the uses of these training exercises is to familiarize firefighters with their counterparts’ equipment.

Beyond dousing flames, the main challenges of fighting high-rise fires are managing the arrival of new fire crews outside the hotel, cordoning off and controlling the lobby so tourists and staff can be evacuated and firefighters can get in, finding engineers and security staff who can explain the property and give firefighters control of the service elevators (which go to all floors and have higher carrying capacities than passenger elevators), figuring out a way to ventilate the smoke and establishing a post two floors below the fire to rotate firefighters, rest them, give them water to drink and fresh bottles of air to breathe. Of these tasks, one of the least intuitive is how to remove the smoke.

It is also one of the most important.

Fire maims and scars, but smoke suffocates and kills many more people, says one of the trainers, Las Vegas Fire & Rescue Capt. Brad Hannig. At a house fire, the standard solution, often even before firefighters go into a building, is to break out windows. High rise windows, however, are too hard to break, have a long way to fall if you do break them and might even make matters worse once broken by providing a channel for wind to feed the fire.

The best solution is to pressurize the building’s stairwells with high-powered portable fans so that air moves up the stairwell on one side, reaches the floor of the fire and pushes smoke down the hallway, up the stairwell on the other end and out through the roof.

The hotels have ventilation and duct systems that are designed to suppress a fire, but they can’t be the first line of attack, Hannig said.

“We’re not saying that they won’t work, they just won’t work like firemen want them to work,” Hannig said.

“The propeller-heads designed them to work eventually. We want them to work now.”

Discussion: 11 comments so far…

By neiman1

10/19/09 at 6:34 a.m.

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So nice to see a picture of trained fire fighters without breathing protection in a smoke filled picture. Anyone knows the visible smoke is nothing compared to the gases that are invisible. Is anyone in charge?
By brendanbuhler (Staff)

10/19/09 at 8:25 a.m.

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@Neiman1: That would be harmless theatrical smoke. They use it for training purposes.
By double11down

10/19/09 at 10:20 a.m.

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If they use it for training purposes....shouldn't they be training?

It's nice that all these firefighters could show up for a photo op.
By rejco100

10/19/09 at 11 a.m.

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Why not burn the place down for REAL so they can get REAL TRAINING, and since the place will never get finished anyways no one will miss it.
By environprotector

10/19/09 at 12:40 p.m.

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rejco100 : why not submit something like how grateful you will be when these firefighters are there to save your home and sorry a&% when you need them...
By brendanbuhler (Staff)

10/19/09 at 1:40 p.m.

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@double11down: They are training. That's a lecture on smoke ventilation and they're observing the effect of stairwell fans on smoke in the hallway.

All of this information is in the caption right under the photo.
By artswanson

10/19/09 at 7:54 p.m.

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Just think, the schmuck who ends up buying this deathtrap will at least be able to say the authorities can find his scrawny body in the smoked filled "Towering Inferno."
By lv702

10/20/09 at 8:47 a.m.

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At least they are training and not sitting around playing Xbox getting paid $45/hr.
By rumrunner

10/20/09 at 9:09 a.m.

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What a great use of down time.See how they are put together will be much more usefull for them,than trying to put the damn thing out!Just might be a good idea if they do this in every highrise at one point during construction they let a crew come in and take notes on how its built?It just might save a couple "smoke eaters" lives,and the people there trying to rescue as well!
By ThisOneGuy

10/20/09 at 12:01 p.m.

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Excellent article.

Good for LV Fire and Rescue for being so forward thinking. Training for a unique situation like that is absolutely invaluable; far better to work out the kinks now then when the SHTF and lives are at stake.

The naysayers above would be the first people to moan and complain about response time and efficiency in the event of a real resort fire.

Mr. Buhler, Please keep up the great work.
By geenab65

10/20/09 at 9:14 p.m.

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"So nice to see a picture of trained fire fighters without breathing protection in a smoke filled picture. Anyone knows the visible smoke is nothing compared to the gases that are invisible. Is anyone in charge"?
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Neiman1,
You've made some ignorant posts in the past but this one made me laugh out loud!! This only highlights your ignorance and truly astounds me!!!
Thanks for the belly laugh and keep on entertaining.

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