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10,000 jobless Nevadans could see benefits extended

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Only Michigan, which has been hit hard by losses in the auto industry, has a higher rate of unemployment than Nevada.

Published Thursday, Nov. 5, 2009 | 10:27 a.m.

Updated Thursday, Nov. 5, 2009 | 12:44 p.m.

CARSON CITY – An estimated 10,000 Nevadans who have exhausted their unemployment benefits could be aided by a bill that gained final approval in Congress today.

The House passed the legislation 403-12 and sent the bill to President Obama. The Senate voted 98-0 Wednesday to extend jobless benefits by 14 weeks for every state -- with an additional six weeks, for a total of 20 weeks -- in high unemployment states where the jobless rate exceeds 8.5 percent.

Nevada’s unemployment rate in September was 13.3 percent, the second highest in the nation.

“These payments allow valley families to keep food on the table and to pay the rent while they continue to search for work, and this extension guarantees these vital benefits will be in place for another 20 weeks,” said Rep. Shelley Berkley. “This is a helping hand for our friends, neighbors and loved ones who are still struggling to find work and by acting now, we will make sure they do not lose their unemployment benefits before the end of the year.”

Mae Worthey, public information officer for the state Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation, said about 10,000 workers have lost their unemployment benefits. Some of them were getting checks for up to 79 weeks.

Worthey said those who have lost their benefits will receive a letter notifying them they may requalify if they have not gained employment.

She said the state would have to wait for the federal Department of Labor to issue instructions so there might be some delay.

The National Employment Law Project says 600,000 workers ran out of their jobless benefits in the past two months alone. And it added that thousands more are expected to expire their eligibility by the end of the year.

The bill also includes the $8,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit through April 30, 2010, and provides a $6,500 credit to new purchasers who have lived in their current residence for five years or more.

Berkley added: “Nevada’s housing market is in a slump, but through extension of the $8,000 credit for first time buyers we can help stimulate more local home and condo sales.”

Discussion: 50 comments so far…

  1. 79 weeks? Plus 20 more weeks, a year and a half of unemployment?
    No, go on welfare, because that is how these people are treating it. This is abuse of the unemployment system. bunch of lazy ass people if they go a year and a half without jobs.

  2. Evidence that unemployment insurance is indeed a government mandated Ponzi scheme.

    : (

  3. dhvincent,

    That is bogus. So you want people that were working at $80,000 per year jobs to go work at McDonald's now? That is an unrealistic expectation. You and I are fortunate enough to have a good job and not get laid off. Just because you are bitter than they are getting paid to do nothing does not give you the right to accuse them of being lazy. I would not expect someone making $40 an hour to go work at McD's for chump change. Get a grip.

  4. To dhvincent1....you're an idiot. My brother in law is a union plumber (hard worker)...unemployed since April...on the books at the hall he's number 170...that number HAS NOT moved in weeks. My son in law...unemployed since April. My husband, an ironworker (hard worker)...unemployed since April. All three of these men are used to working 6 sometimes 7 days a week...they are not couch potatoes...not everyone on unemployment is lazy...that's why employers pay payroll tax...it's an insurance that pays when there is NO WORK. God help you if you are ever unemployed....since you are so righteous I'm sure you would not ever think of signing up for unemployment benefits. These people have homes, children, etc....they are no different than you. You need to do a bit of soul searching my friend.

  5. Give me a break, The only reason somebody is NOT working is because they don't want too. Guess what, YOU might have to move, or go work in another state. I have NEVER been out of work for more than a month. This year and a half crap is BS. Guess what people, life is not fair. Get over it and start taking care of your family, its NOT the US Governments JOB. You are all just falling into the Liberal trap, Stand up and be a PROUD American and take care of yourself.
    BB

  6. If there were jobs in the pipeline this would not have passes......No jobs are coming people! The "EXPERTS" are wrong....again!

  7. "That is bogus. So you want people that were working at $80,000 per year jobs to go work at McDonald's now" If he is not working in a year and a half, then yes because it is obvious he career plan is not working. Either move to where the jobs are or start over.
    Same with tinmate, if your relatives cannot find work here, either move or get another line of work.
    Unemployment is not free. It costs employers who have to raise prices or layoff people to cover the costs. It costs taxpayers as well.
    Are all people on welfare lazy- no- most are not, but if you are unemployed for over a year and a half, then yes you are.

  8. To:fciusps and dhvincent1, the world is truly not fair and the unemployed are truly not all lazy! At 62, I had never been unemployed for more than a month in my life either, but I was suddenly told by my employer that he was closing his business, this just six weeks after giving me a new contract! I pray for you two, that you do not experience the discrimination that I have faced, I have been told that I was not being considered because I am over qualified and that I would probably leave as soon as a better offer comes up, well duh! The employers who seek people in my area of expertise are taking full advantage of their right to choose!

  9. dhvincent and tinmate and the kind of people that whine about their jobs and hate it and want to leave. They are bitter and believe that people on unemployment are stealing money from others. They are the typical conservative, right wing crazies that love to harass and put down others, yet would quit their own job and live off unemployment if the economy would not be in the condition it currently is. I've seen thousands like them. Maybe you should change YOUR career or move?

  10. One might want to take a look at how the market is doing, IF these companies are starting to make a profit on their cost cutting and layoffs, WHY would they start to hire anymore people. They simple answer is they won't. The profits are coming in now, with a leaner work force, So my advice to anyone that is reading this would be, start looking for another trade, and forget the dam Unions, Start taking care of YOURSELF, Fight for YOURSELF, I have been in 2 Unions in my 35 years of working, both times they took my money when I was working AND when I wasn't. As long as you pay those dues, they are your friends. I found it is a whole lot easier to manage my careerS by myself.

  11. By the way, I left NV in 2006, Sold my house before the crash, found a great job up here in Alaska, A TRUE fiscal Conservative state. No state tax, NO Sales Tax, Some counties have NO property taxes. Plus the state give EVERY Alaska resident a check every year. NV was once like that, 20 years ago when I first moved there. Now its becoming just like CA, Broke and Bankrupt. They ruined a perfectly good town. Dam Liberals. lol
    Anyhow, Go VIKINGS, Super bowl bound.

  12. eaglepovich,

    At 62 years of age you are neither to old nor over qualified.

    You were simply replaced by one or more illegal aliens working at 5 bucks an hour and no benefits.

    That's why demorats are so desperate to cover illegal aliens with free health care. So local crooked business owners like the one that fired you can make huge profits by paying workers only 5 bucks an hour in the new age of socialism

  13. High school counselors and parents should be telling students that it is not a good idea to borrow money to go to college. In 4 years there aren't going to be any jobs but there will be collection agencies going after student loan debt. Student loans are like borrowing money from the mafia--you cannot default on the loan and they can charge you as much interest as they want. Do you want fries with that?--and when you get home you've got 5 calls from Sallie Mae.

  14. "Alaska, A TRUE fiscal Conservative state."

    Oh, you mean the same state that leads the nation in federal spending (AKA "pork") received per resident? That gets nearly $2 in federal spending for every dollar in federal taxes paid?

    Kind of easy to pay out annual checks to all of your citizens when you're living large on the taxes paid by residents of the lower 48.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/...

  15. It's sad to see the level of ignorance expressed by dhvincent1 appear on this medium.
    Maybe, if we could send a whole bunch of this type of people back to school, the country could get better in a few years, (wishful thinking!)

  16. "The $2.4 billion cost of extending unemployment benefits is offset by extending through June 2011 the federal unemployment tax that employers pay for each employee."

  17. I have no objection to extending unemployment benefits, but really can't we find something for the unemployed to do in return for the free money? There must be a road somewhere that needs to be widened?

  18. Remember, Alaska is 1/3 the LAND size of the lower 48. Now if you include the taxes paid into the United States by the 4 major Oil companies up here, every other state except for Texas is dwarfed by the amount of money the US government receives. Just because we have a small population of people to divide into the PORK that is given to our state which inflates the number you are using Mr Anonymous. Besides, the PFD check we receive is a fund our state Government set up over 20 years ago for the benefit of the residents of Alaska. Every other STATE can do the same thing, of course that would cut into all the FREE benefits your States pay out to their lazy free loading residents. And I know there are a bunch of HARD working and responsible ones too. So I am not putting you into the last statement.
    Once again, Go Vikings. And Ride AK 907 rules.
    PS I do not like Sarah Palin, she LIES just like a Liberal, and tries calling herself a Conservative. NOT

  19. This is why we need acorn to help the poor.

    The unemployed are the lastest target of hate talk radio, both local and national.

    unemployed, homeless and the poor should be given equal time on local radio.

  20. fciusps :: So Alaska gives every resident a check every year ? isn't that some form of government handout ? and your proud of that ? Sorry you fled the state back in 06, but most people in this state aren't going anywhere, As a matter of fact, the're moving here !! You want to talk about standing up and being proud ? HA !! We're hanging in here just fine, the johs are just now starting to come back, I am on unemployment and it carried me for a few months, now I have 3 offers on the table, once again Nevada WILL BE BACK !! Again, sorry you FLED the state for a pipe dream, and are now freezing your ass off up there, while we're enjoying beautiful 75 degree weather today ! Oh yea, and the only reason the Vikes are doing ok this year is because of Farve who fled Greenbay just like you fled Nevada, the grass isn't always as green as it appears on the other side, and when the economy crashes in Alaska don't come back here with your tail between your legs !!! Later Have fun this winter !!

  21. So, constitutiondefender, obviously, you really don't believe in your moniker, do you? Apparently, you believe in welfare for everyone who wants it irregardless who has to pay for it.
    Apparently you are too ignorant to understand that unemployment compensation, when it was set up, was for it to be a safety net, not a way of life. It was supposed to be used help people who were terminated, through no fault of their own, until they were able to find work.
    Now it is used as welfare by some, not the majority, as a form of welfare, so they don't have to work. They are supposed to be looking for a job, not a special job, but a job. So what if it is McDonalds, which probably pays more than unemployment, it is a job.
    I am not against unemployment compensation. For the majority of people, it has helped them through the tough times and until they landed on their feet. But for those who abuse the system, the people Harry Reid supports, I am not for it. Unemployment compensation was not meant to be welfare.

  22. 650,000 jobs saved??? IMPORTED 1,125,000 foreign workers at same time!

    "All of us need to point out to every local newspaper, every Member of Congress and every one of our co-workers and family that the federal government has imported more than a million working-age foreign citizens this year to negate every positive impact the stimulus could have had for U.S. workers."

    http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusabl...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMKlMrwc6...

  23. mred writes: "This is why we need acorn to help the poor. The unemployed are the lastest target of hate talk radio, both local and national unemployed, homeless and the poor should be given equal time on local radio."

    Wow... This mred guy sounds like he should be a czar in the White House.

    While you are at it mred, how about giving the unemployed our jobs and the homeless our homes. And here, take my health insurance and give it to someone who is more needy then me.

    Mred calls talk radio, "hate talk radio." He wants to make equal time on talk radio for the homeless and unemployed.

    Why stop there? Make equal time for the American Nazi party, the Communist party, the Klu Klux Klan, Religious extremists and the like.

    And who pays the bill for air time? Station owners? No...Advertisers? No... How about taxpayers? There you go, lets Nationalize all the radio and television stations and make them answer to the White House. Now this would make mred and the White House happy...

  24. Unemployment was created by government in cooperation with businesses around 1935 with 2 things being accomplished.
    1. They could pay lower hourly wages for their workers.
    2. They would be able to keep "qualified" workers from relocating during times of slack in industrial and construction production.

    Take all the qualified construction workers and let them find employment in another field for 2 years. They learn to live on the wage and like the work conditions and when the economy turns around and you need qualified constrction workers, guess what? They won't want to quit their nice cozy job to go back to the low paying, back breaking work.

    Then, I suppose we will have to hear all the crying about the crappy workmanship, and how long it takes for them to finish on your home and in places of business? Unless that is, you are willing to pay the price for someone who really knows what they are doing?

    Get off your high horse and open your eyes to what is going on and why maybe you will educate yourselves some more.

    The end users of construction services have been worried for years about the lack of experience and ability in the construction industry. This recession is a huge setback for businesses and government when it comes to this.

    If any of you are naive enough to think that the "illegals" and other "specialists" have enough skill to fill the need, think again.

  25. I think this is absurd that someone can get unemployment for this long. Then one guy above spouts off about his union plumber brother is 170 on the list. Sounds like your brother needs to start looking for work outside of the plumbing trade. It is not taxpayer responsibility to support a union plumber because he refuses to work at the jobs that are available.

  26. Larry;
    There IS a line to be drawn here with the "AM Radio" stuff. VERY FEW COMPANIES own radio stations anymore. Ever since the idiotic deregulation, there are a select few corp's that own all the stations. That can lend itself to a muting of certain voices, and conversely, give voice to a select few. Do you see where this is going, Lar?
    As to the Unemployment Extension;
    Those of you against people getting extended benefits are terribly misguided. Not only will this be of great help to many in dire straights, it also puts $$$ back into the community, as these people receiving benefits will IMMEDIATELY need to spend it. Go without money for a few months and see how it works out for ya.
    Just a heads up;
    THERE ARE NO JOBS.
    It's been in all the papers, even Fox covers it.

  27. It takes a very small mind and a very small soul to scorn an American in need of help.
    People who pay taxes are entitled to a bit of support when they need it.
    The people who need help did not volunteer to be laid off, they are honest, hard working God fearing people.
    It's astonishing to see the fear running through a lot of these comments, the fear that poverty is somehow contagious, that helping your own people is somehow weak.
    America exports millions and millions of dollars in aid to countries whose people could not give a damn about the American people.
    Divert it to the people of America, it came from their sweat in the first place.
    If one week's worth of the river of cash being spent on just Afghanistan was diverted to retraining workers and funding infrastructure projects, it would make the most enormous difference.
    America's best asset is it's people, they deserve help when they need it.
    Before you scorn them, ask yourself what it says about you.

  28. It odd that I hear everyone saying there are no jobs, but I know people who are finding jobs. I have also talked to people who have just relocated here and have no problem finding a job. It may not be a union plumbing job making 40 bucks an hour but its a job that puts food on the table. Problem is as long as you are handing out money for free there is no incentive to look for work. Thats the bottom line. Thats why unemployment benefits run out. Its a temporary bridge. Its not suppose to last forever. I think it is a great thing when not abused. But believe me plenty are abusing it. SOme aren't.

  29. Hey gmager, your getting a little head of yourself there. Slow down and listen carefully... I am not opposed to an extension of unemployment benefits. As long as there is an ending date, and they have a way of financing the extension, then go for it.

    I do not agree with those who think that unemployment benefits should go on forever. Believe it or not, there are several people who have posted here who think that unemployment benefits should continue foreverrrrrrrrrrr.

    Oh, one more thing. I hope that this unemployment extension does not become an unfunded mandate for the states.

    Looking for jobs? Contact the White House. I hear they are in the need of a few more czars and the 1st lady needs a few more attendants. I thinking of applying for the position of czar of beer drinkers. I think I am qualified...

  30. Full employment!

    CRAB fishing!!!!

    Must be willing to get in Republican underwear.

  31. People on unemployment are having a very hard time paying the note on their house let alone anything extra. Working at a burger joint is not a realistic choice for a man that owns a house and has children. For one thing THE BURGER JOINT WON'T HIRE HIM!

  32. I don't go to burger joints, but have you people REALLY SEEN a bunch of middle-aged 40-60 year old Ex-Lehman Brothers Execs asking you if you want to SUPER SIZE your burger orders?

  33. Lets break this down and do the math, For a single person:

    GOD HELP YOU IF YOUR MARRIED OR A SINGLE PARENT OR EVEN WORSE IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY !!!!

    Maximum Unemployment compensation per week (for those who qualify for it !) - REMEMBER YOU MUST QUALIFY FIRST ACCORDING TO THE STATE GUIDLINES:

    (assuming there are 4 weeks in a month)

    $393 + $25 (that Obama kicks in) = 418 + (change)

    Rent = $600/mo /(4wks)= $150/wk = $268
    Elec = $120/mo /(4wks)= $30/wk = $238
    Water/swg/ etc = $100/mo /(4wks) = $20 /wk= $213
    Groceries = $200/mo /(4wks)= $50/wk = $163
    Car Payment = $265/mo /(4wks) = $66.25 = $96.75
    Car Insurance = $150/mo /(4wks) = $37.50 = $59.25
    Gas = $120/mo /(4wks) = $30 = $29.95 !!!!!!!!!

    I do not see how having $29.25/week extra is hardly spnging off the government especially while you are looking for a job !!!

    KEEP IN MIND THIS IS JUST GETTING BY !! NO FRILLS NO EXTRA !!!

  34. That's fine Larry. You be the Beer Czar.
    Then I demand to be the CHICK CZAR!
    "Money for nothin', chicks for free!"
    Is this a great country, or what?
    We'll all be czars.

  35. RE: dt0702 Well NO, our PFD check is NOT a Government hand-out. It is a fund set up by the State Government years ago. The only reason it still has money in it, IS because the State cannot touch it. We are all paid the yearly Dividends from it. Last year it was 3069.00, this year 1305.00. As for fleeing the state of NV. I go were the work is,(No Pipe dream) Sold my house for 3 times what I paid for it in NV. Put that money in some HOPEFULLY safe investment funds. Now I work on the slope, make over 100,000 a year. 2 weeks work, 2 weeks OFF. So I work 6 months a year, and I am OFF 6 months a year. As for the cold, I am from Minnesota, so the cold is no problem. As for my Vikings, it looks like Brett makes my point. He had NO job in Green Bay, So he went were he COULD work. aka Jets, then Vikings. Looks like a good IDEA to me. Don't feel to bad though, I come done and visit Vegas about 4 to 5 times a year, YES I leave some of my money there at times. HOPE it helps you out. 5 more years of working and I will be done, I will winter done there, (lower 48) and summer up here on my OWN money. SO
    Once again, GO Vikings, EVEN if it takes a Packer to help us win. LOL, Oh I did put a hundred on the Vikes to win the Super Bowl BEFORE Brett came on, got 28 to 1 odds.

  36. dear fcisups and dhvinent1:Until you walk in the shoes of the unemployed- SHUT UP!!! MANY do not want to be in the job line,but things happen. I've worked all over the US and abroad for over 38 years- NEVER OUT OF JOB UNTIL NOW. Maybe SOME DAY you may have an OPPORTUNITY to be told - TOO MUCH EXPERIENCE.(this may interpret that they are looking for someone younger) YOU MAY NOT STAY IN THIS JOB BECAUSE WE CAN'T PAY YOU WHAT YOU MADE BEFORE etc. So, my friends........SHUT UP!!!

  37. I've been unemployed before, never longer than a month. One of the reasons I save for rainy days. All I have been saying to everyone on here, its NOT the Governments job to find WORK for you. Suck it up and YOU take care of yourself and Family. Why is it that people keep looking for hand outs from the Government. The Government can only create work using OUR Tax money, they cannot NOT create jobs. Only the RICH can do that, I have never been offered a job by a poor person. Just keep taxing the rich and spread the wealth, pretty soon the rich will not have anymore money, then what? Oh and I am NOT a Republican, OR a Liberal Democrat. I believe in Fiscal Conservatism.
    Once again I say, Go Vikings Super Bowl Bound.
    PS Its 40 degrees here in Alaska, and Still no SNOW. But always LOTS of JOBS IF you want to work that is.

  38. The Prophet just seen the final score of the super Bowl; N.O. 42 - IND 38 Spread N.O by 6.5 (IND - OV covers) Mark my words! If this is not correct, then I'm not a true prophet and will never post here again! (exact score not guar - teams, outcome yes)

    As for this debate, looks like Obama is playing the part of "Pac Man" and "making it rain" with taxpayer money. However, given the damage that has already been done, and the fact the world is going to go through some earth changes in a few years, we really shouldn't care. We the sheeple are on a "need to know" basis here. Obama and the gov knows what is coming our way, that's why they don't care about deficits, out of control spending. Let them! Nobody's going to have to pay that debt anyway. Regardless if you believe that earth changes are coming our way, you have to admit that the gov is spending money as if it will never have to be repaid. That speaks volumes, doesn't it?

  39. VC
    I agree with you, everyone I know has been able to find jobs easy, and these are NOT low paying jobs. I think helping people out in crisis is important but far to many take advantage of it. There is PLENTY of jobs out there, people just need to take the time to look and not be to picky about it.

  40. Well, If the Prophet says NO vs IND, Guess next month when I am down in Vegas, I will pick up a winning ticket for that game also. Like i said, One has to be flexible in EVERYTHING he does, and that includes Gambling. lol
    Happy Veterans day to all my fellow Vets, and Happy Birthday to All my Marine brothers on the 10th of Nov.
    Go Vikings, lets prove the Prophet wrong. lol

  41. Unemployment for all forever...
    Health care for all forever...
    Entitlements for all forever...

    Taxes only for the working forever...

  42. One of my homeless veterans is going to work Monday morning; what the US Vets 12-Step Religious Cult PRISON & VA could not do in the 2 year that Mitch was on the streets suffering, I helped him do in EIGHT DAYS! He starts Monday at my buddy's Fremont Street Hotel in maintenance; it's a start!

    This should make the VA & US VET'S Staff "Wet Their Pants : We had 2 beers at dinner tonight to celebrate! YIPPEE!

  43. this town has no idea what's going to happen when city center opens. all those construction workers will HAVE to leave town to find work and that's going to lead to many, many local "mom and pop" style businesses closing.

    this is a dead town. the longer we keep waiting for gambling and tourism to come back, the worse it will get.

    it over.

  44. dhvincent1,your stupidity by far surpasses your intelligence. Don't you realize american teenagers can't even get work at McD's because 95% of all fast food restaurants hire illegals. You are pathetic, weren't you aware that we have been told that we have approximately 230,000 illegals here in L.V. Now use that god given brain you have and figure out if ICE would rid our city of the illegals, how many jobs would then be available in our city for citizens. As far as the union jobs our locals have travelers sitting on their books waiting for work here because their locals don't have any work. Your statements prove that you have no idea what is going on here in L.V. You should refrain from making your stupid remarks and keep your head in the tundra, this way you wouldn't be a danger to any of the good citizens who are suffering this economic nightmare. I don't know if any of you are aware that Sen. Reid stopped e-verify from being added to the bill allowing the funding for citizens who have run out of unemployment benifits. So now american citizens have to once again lose monies that should be provided to citizens and not to illegals who shouldn't be in our country to begin with. By providing illegals with more funding, Reid is acknowledging he is aware that we have them festering here in our country. Oh, but he won't do anything to rid our country of this vermin. Vote Reid out and send him south of the border where his interests lie.

  45. I drove by Mcd's last week. They're payin' $10hr for a manager with fast-food experience! LOL

  46. vc,

    " Problem is as long as you are handing out money for free there is no incentive to look for work. Thats the bottom line"

    Since noone will be honest about their unemployment benefits,,I will.The above quote is right,Im not going to accept a job for 10.00 hourly,it is not considered "suitable employment that i have to consider"

    I have worked the last 14 years at over 42.00 an hour,and have 23 yrs in the construction trades.The last 14 yrs,,what was i not supposed to buy a house,and no car,no vacation,no food,,just to set myself up for the economic downfall,and be able to live on 10.00 an hour,,get real!!. Most of this drivel on here is simply pissed off that we are getting help while your getting screwed,and no inflationary raises due to the economy,you may have a job,but your not progressing in this economy,not everyone,,but most

    540.00 weekly to pursue suitable employment,or accept a 260.00(after taxes)weekly,just to make somebody on this forum,who doesnt give a crap about me,nor do i care about them HAPPY.Do the math,geniuses!

    You dont qualify for benefits for being a lazy ass,atleast in my state that i worked,,they do their research,when making their determinations on who is eligible.EVERY single comment directed at the unemployed comes from somebody WHO has a job,,so great for you,,but get over it already,,its not very becoming.

    Again,I will give another example of the competetiveness of the job market,I applied at a casino in primm,for a facilities tech,that paid 16.00 hourly,,which out of pure boredom,,I would have accepted.117 applicants for that position alone,and i have credit,can pass a drug test,,no felonies,and clean dmv record,,not even a call for a pre screen,,so yes im not going to McD,s and apply,especially when i have never flipped a burger,or dropped a bucket into hot oil.

    What I am doing is taking classes for my CDL,and also some compliance classes,and using some of my 401k to fund that,which I shouldnt have to do,but I dont wish to remain Stagnant.

    Judge me all you want,but be realistic with this @$^& about a 40 yr old man accepting a cashier position for 8-10.00 an hour,just so the Dept of Labor can use you as a statistic,to further their cause.

    peace out

  47. fciausps,

    " Guess what, YOU might have to move, or go work in another state"

    And also the comment about moving to where the work is,,yeh another realistic piece of advice,if you live in tent city,or the sewer,,maybe.

    I paid 300,000 for my house,which is now worth about 180,000,so should i take that 120,000 loss,and moving myself,my harley,and bass boat,or hiring bekins for the relocation would cost me about 6-8,000,plus either buying or renting would require another down payment.

    Maybe when i get the cdl license,i can hijack the companies semi trailer for a couple days,,that would eliminate the relocation cost,but that still leaves me with the little market value problem with housing.

    with that defensive backfield,and 4th quarter woes,the VIKINGS have no chance,even with brett favre

    peace out

  48. Hey bldblu,
    with all those toys you have, you have a nice cushion of cash, so good for you. So you will have no problem waiting for things to get better. When I was living down there, i worked for 3 months in AZ, 2 months in Ely, 6 months in Wendover and various other small towns. I lived in my TOYHAULER during the week while I worked. Came home to my house and family on the weekends.
    All I keep writing about, is a person cannot sit on the same street corner and keep on complaining.
    I don't want the Goverments help,(Never recieved any SO FAR) I am a very PRIDEFUL man of 51 yrs YOUNG, So I take care of my family in ANY way I can. If you are buying all the hogwash coming from the Politicians, You might be waiting for awhile for things to improve. Las Vegas was overbuilt anyhow.
    Once again, GO VIKINGS. As for the defense and 4th quarter woes, its all for entertainment, plus it helps out your Vegas Casinos. lol

    PS How much you want for your Harley?

  49. youre right about pride,and congrats to you and your family.My harley,and boat have been paid for for about 2 years now,,thank god,otherwise the boat would have been the first to go.I have my 401k for backup,,but really dont want to touch much of that,so i may roll it over.

    Vegas sux right now for me and the construction trade,but i am in no position to move at this time,as i am helping my mom with dialysis 3 times a week.if her situation improves,i may go to dubai for a couple years,i hear there you can just walk up to the on site bosses shack,with your gear,and hardhat,,sign your tax,,produce your id,,and your good to go

    I am just way to tied down at THIS time to leave,,but hopefully next year,and once again i wasnt defending being lazy,only that me personally will not accept an 8.00 job,,save your comment ive heard em before,but i look out for me,and my diseased mother,other than that I am a very small fish in this pond,,and really nobody cares about anothers situation,other than yourself

    good luck in your future as well,,also losing sharper,,and i think winfield is still down hurts the vikings,,but im sure by playoffs,,that will rectify itself.viking blowing those big leads in the 4th quarter in the last 2of3 games concerned me,,and AP has become "maybe today" rather than all day (adrian P )

    peace out

  50. So, BushDepression, did you take the job?

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