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twitterNevada’s percentage of illegal immigrants in workforce tops nation
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 | 9:47 a.m.
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Nevada tops the nation when it comes to the percentage of illegal immigrants in the workforce, according to a report issued today by the Pew Hispanic Center.
The Washington-based think tank estimates that 170,000 workers, or 12.2 percent of the state's total, are illegal immigrants. That is more than twice the national average, which is 5.4 percent. The top five were rounded out by California, Arizona, New Jersey and Florida. The figures are 2008 estimates.
The report also estimates that there are 230,000 undocumented immigrants in Nevada, placing the state 13th nationwide.
Other findings in the report include that 4 million children, or nearly three-fourths of the children born to illegal immigrants, are U.S. citizens by birth.
The report also notes that Nevada is one of five states in which at least one in 10 children in K-12 schools has a parent who is an illegal immigrant.
To read the full report go to pewhispanic.org.
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Young black males who are entering into the job are the biggest group that is damaged by illegals taking jobs like in the construction industry.
The Democratic Party complains about cheap labor overseas that hurts jobs here. But once that cheap labor crosses the border illegally then that cheap labor is the greatest thing on the planet. Why? Because it translates into power for the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party is selling blacks down the river. They have been doing stuff like that for years. Blacks blindly vote Democratic. The Democratic Party needs to do nothing to get the black vote. They ingor blacks on their concerns about the Israel. Now, they allowing blacks to lose jobs to illegals.
I thought it was illegal to hire illegal immigrants in the US. With all the unemployed in this country why not hire legal citizens.
cisea: It is illegal but there are no police to enforce it. The casinos in this town have hundreds of thousands of illegals, remember the march. Because no one makes these employers follow the law the illegals get to claim 10 dependents and not pay tax on most or any earnings. They keep the wage low because this group of people dont complain. Illegals take jobs away from tax paying citizens every single day in this town. Not only do they not pay there fair share they send there kids to school for you and me to pay more in taxes to educate and every time one gets a runny nose its off to the emergancy room.
What is the unemployment rate in Nevada? Does this mean with enforcement of the current law we would have ZERO unemployment.
Thank you President Obama and Sen. Reid. Are you trying to destroy Nevada and America or just doing it be accident.
"Young black males who are entering into the job are the biggest group that is damaged by illegals taking jobs like in the construction industry."
-- Did you at least take the hood off before you typed this comment?
You do know that unions, lower-wage workers, and under-employed workers are by far white males?
Cisea says, "I thought it was illegal to hire illegal immigrants in the US. With all the unemployed in this country why not hire legal citizens."
The problem has been th same for decades and gets to the core of the problem. Employers will always look for ways to save a buck, circumvent every rule in the book, and sow no concern for the safety and well-being of their employees!
The Federation for American Immigration Reform reports in it's April newsletter that illegal aliens cost Nevada $630 million a year. This includes education, prisons and health care and costs each household $763.00.
Enforcement of current immigration laws would save Nevada tax payers and open up more jobs..
neiman1 and jfnance32 - get off of your right-wing soapboxes and go back to your worshiping at the feet of Fox, Rush, Bush, Cheney, and Rove. What did they do in 8 LONG, disgusting years to solve ANY problems? Not a damn thing, except get young Americans killed in Iraq, line their own pockets with as much money as they could, and screw the economy of this country and world by fostering greed, arrogance, and distortion of the US constitution to suit their own agenda.
You two need to reserve your comments for your shrinking group of radicals. You are no better than the Taliban and other extremists. Keep your toxic, poisonous koolaid to yourself and offer it up to your gods mentioned above and write your commentaries for the RJ crowd where you can fabricate statistics, mislead the uneducated, and pontificate all you want about your racist attitudes and ideologies that brought this country to its knees.
And I don't even care for Harry Reid's work or his style; but you two make him almost honorable.
I don't post here any more (got tired of trying to argue with the nances & neimans of the world LOL) but I had to log in and thank you, transplanted, for one of the best, most succinct, FACT-BASED posts I've seen in quite some time.
I'm a fan :)
no wonder americas unemplyment is so high. ship them back where they came from.
PatriciaLV -- "I don't post here any more (got tired of trying to argue with the nances & neimans..."
Try ignoring them. That strategy works on loud and annoying children. Posts by bigots, braggarts and buffoons don't deserve responses.
Since the illegal immigrants are "UNDOCUMENTED", I can't understand how they could possibly have an accurate head count.
Personally, I believe it is much higher from my own observation.
Call any company out to your home to do any type of work and you get non-english speaking workers(and they aren't cheap labor, believe me). Look at the construction sites that are active.. same senario. Oh and all these torn up roads that are being worked on (wasting our tax dollars).. fast food joints, as well as our regular restaurants, the list goes on and on. The casinos are a given.
Between the "Undocumented",the polite way of saying "ILLEGAL", and the outsourcing of jobs, it certainly doesn't leave much for the natural-born citizen, nor the person that has worked hard to become a citizen.
Corporate America, this has come back to bite you. Obama bailed you out. However, it won't help you. Why? Because the people that spend the money to kept you afloat no longer have the money themselves. You've given our jobs away... you have bitten the hand that feeds you. Greedy, Greedy, Coporate America.. you are your own undoing.
Americans and the children of legal residents are receiving 3 class education, since our schools have had accommodate millions of children of illegal foreign nationals mandated by Federal law. My son is crammed into a school, where the English language is a dead as archaic Latin.
It's time we place all our social services for our own legal population? It seems like every time we read the newspapers, our politicians are catering to illegal immigrants? We have amassed poverty in our own nation, yet we allow millions to come to America annually, which taxpayers underwrite for employers in medical services, education and other advantages. Our immigration laws have been tainted for the sake of monetary gain, which includes dropping E-verify, so illegal aliens can still appropriate jobs in this dire economy.
This editorial says it all, that children of illegal immigrants live in abject poverty, because Americans have allowed the special interest lobby to dictate to our legislators. Within immigration laws their is a clause, that anybody sponsored must be financially secure, or the sponsor must be able to financially support them. In the majority of cases this never happens, which causes a liability on US taxpayers. Then we have the distorted law of a child borne here, becomes an instant citizen? Nowhere else in the world will this happen, owing to fact the mother is--by law--an illegal alien. The original law was written for the benefit of the emancipation of slaves after the Civil War. More than any "Rule of Law" immigration laws have been corrupted, dumped or just plain ignored. So goes, E-Verify, Real ID, Federal program 247(g). All have been lobotomized for corporate welfare, US. Chamber of Commerce, ACLU and the radical ethnocentric organizations. Taxpayers have yet to realize hundreds of billions of their dollars are diverted to anti-sovereignty, open border cliques. Find facts at NUMBERSUSA, JUDICIALWATCH, CAPSWEB.
I am not at all surprised by the statistics in the Pew report, above. One need only look at the inability of most casino, hotel and fast food employees in Las Vegas to speak clear, understandable English.
One need only look at the unwillingness of the large casino chains to fully participate in e-verify. Instead, they understand that they are better off, economically, having a frightened subservient work force.
And to those who doubt the comments of other people in this string, that the presence of illegal alien employees is denying jobs to black working class men, it is absolutely and unequivocably true. The facts were exposed in an unforgettable discussion/documentary program which was played on Channel 10 about 18 months ago. That TV program statistically showed that the job loss by black males, to illegal aliens, began more than 25 years ago, in the East and South Los Angeles manufacturing industries, affecting black men who are now in their 50's and 60's.
I wish Channel 10 would play the discussion / documentary again. But of course they won't, because it will alienate their big money contributors from the casino industry.
This issue will be the real test of whether Barak Obama is willing to do a most significant, righteous act for his black brothers, and take the obvious steps to restore their job opportunities in the urban areas of the United States. It cannot be forgotten that the wealth of the United States was initially built on the backs of black slaves, whose descendants are far more morally entitled to American jobs than anyone who recently sneaked in the back door.
Barak Obama won his election because of the incredibly huge black voter registration and turn out. It remains to be seen whether he will "Do the right thing for his people". If he does not do what is necessary to reserve American jobs for American citizens, he will go down in history as the "First Black President Who Failed America's Blacks".
Transplanted - Do you care to analize or have any original thought about illegal immigration in Nevada?
All you seem to have is the same old lefty extremist hate-laced regurgitated rhetoric. If you can't address the issue, at least be original with the name calling. It's unfortunate that you need left-wing hate sites to do your name calling for you.
In twenty or thirty years the US hispanic population will be roughly 50%. Get used to it.
I believe the stats are overstated on purpose.
I believe the stats are understated and what we are witnessing is the invasion of the country. We are forced to pay the bills of these illegals in our communities and the casinos in this town are the ones making it possible for these illegals to make a living. We need a law with teeth that forces every employer to comply. These employers and unions should be afraid to hire illegals but they are not. The unions should be forced to comply with the law as well. Every employee in The United States should be reviewed and his/her citizenship verified. History has shown that when they are not allowed to work so freely they move back to the country they came from. We are not the only country in the world that has this problem we are just the only one that does not deal with it in a positive manner to protect the citizens. I as a taxpayer have to pay more and more every day because of the illegals demanding services and jobs they have never had a right too. Block the border and send the illegals back across with there kids.
"You do know that unions, lower-wage workers, and under-employed workers are by far white males?"
1st, I think it is funny that you made the hood remark when it is you who is saying that whites are getting hurt worst than blacks.
You are right because there are a ton of more whites in the USA than blacks.
But the unemployment rates for blacks, especially young black males, is much higher than whites.
"The unemployment rate for young black men is typically more than twice the rate for white, Hispanic and Asian men. "
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/stor...
"Among black men 20 and older, the unemployment rate is 13.4 percent, almost twice that of the national rate of 7.2 percent and much higher than it is for white men, 6.5 percent."
http://www.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/lo...
This is a sad commentary on how political blackmail negates enforcement of legitimate laws. President Bush's administration essentially gave only lip services to the list of laws about illegal immigrants, likely in order to curry favor in the recent elections from mostly Hispanic, pro illegal immigration voters. It failed for his party, but now we are faced with the Obama administration's likely recommendations that illegals be amnestied, thus justifying the chances they theoretically took to enter the US against the law. As I said, the whole thing is a sad commentary on the rule of law.
firedawg2000 - sure I can offer my opinions and comment on the subject matter without a problem. I just get tired of the Democrat/Obama-bashing and blaming that the two referenced posters always use for what ails this country, as though they were asleep the past 8 years and nothing could be finer than the results of the previous administration. Including the lack of policy and actions necessary to curb the illegal alien situation. Now, it's all of sudden a big major problem for the Blacks and the Democrats are to blame. Give me a break.
Illegal aliens, in my opinion, should be caught, tried and convicted of every possible offense that can be thrown at them, deported in mass numbers once a week after being fingerprinted and entered into a computerized database regarding their offenses, not the least of which is theft.
The US employers that hired them should be arrested, tried and convicted and charged as felons.
Every community should implement a once-a-week sweep for illegals, using volunteer groups specifically trained and led by police personnel, or National Guard personnel. (National "Guard"??? get it???)
A new constitutional amendment should be drafted to eliminate the citizenship by birth in the U.S. of ANY foreigner and ESPECIALLY illegals, revoking citizenship of those born here of illegal parents that are 18 years old or younger, and requiring those older than 18 to prove they are gainfully employed and not accepting government assistance or face revocation of their citizenship and deportation.
Education and medical care should be DENIED for any person, child or adult, that is not a U.S. citizen; providing only medical stabilization until deportation.
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I am a child of LEGAL immigrants coming through Ellis Island, and proud to become Americans. So much so, they did not speak or teach their native language to the children, because they did not want us to have a disadvantage in the school system or to be ridiculed, even though they suffered discrimination at various levels by various groups.
They never asked for documents and signs to be written in THEIR language. They learned English as quickly as humanly possible and built a good, honest, tax-paying life for themselves and 10 children. They proudly VOTED and stayed on top of civic issues and duties, serving and hosting the election polling at their business until they retired.
We were brought up learning history, government, and discussing current events at almost every dinner, every day. We were taught to think independently and to investigate all claims of truth and law so as not to be misled or misguided. We were taught to honor our rights and to understand the responsibilities of being a citizen.
I am a first-generation American-born citizen, and born AFTER my parents were naturalized.
And, know this: I form my own opinions and do not rely on ANY website or reporting service to put words into my mouth. There was no hate in my previous post; just disgust for the continuation of the arrogance of a failed right-wing agenda and the Democrat-bashing diatribe that comes from the two posters I originally addressed. If you read their posts on a daily basis, on any subject, you will find that you should have addressed your comment to them, and not me, as they clearly mimic Fox, Rush, and the others that are spinning so much nonsense that they incite the mentally ill into committing murderous rampages from the fear and lies they peddle. Hasn't the past 8 years of Bush and Cheney caused enough death, lawlessness and injustice?
shocker!
How come 90% of the Mercedes in town are driven by Chinese? How come every massage parlor doesn't look like an illegal immigrant??? Illegal immigrants, why not just call them trespassers??
One thing that everyone is forgetting is that every country south of the united states is a failed state not just mexico but all of them, I do not agree that Illegal Immigrants should just be allowed to walk into these country, But when it comes to money it hurts us even more that they send so much of there money back to the motherland. But if they don,t do that then there family down there won,t eat everyday.
There are many economists and politicians who believe a mass influx of immigrants is necessary to keep the Social Security system afloat. As one economist put it, "We don't have time to sort out the good from the bad so just let them all in." Although I do not agree with this sentiment I point it as another off the wall reason why the Feds drag their feet. Employers in this country roll out the red carpet for illegals while they can't shove the old people out the door fast enough. Young managers don't like having old people around because they refuse to bullied and terrorized, not because they are stupid, lazy, or out of touch. Excuses those same terrorist managers use when firing the 50 plus crowd. If us old people are willing to die on the job, give us the chance and save SS as a bonus. Old people may run up the medical bills, but one old geezer has to be a lot cheaper than the typical 5 anchor babies. Especially when they get anchored to prison when they grow up.
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WOW! This is a very touchy subject. I only have questions not fact based points.
1. How many illegals come into the country via airports from Europe.
2. How many legal visitors from Europe become over-stayers (illegals).
3. Is it true that back in the day (1900) when most people where coming from Europe to the USA (Ellis Island) all they had to do is raise their hand swear an oath and pick a political party for expediance.
4. Did a large number of Hispanics vote for Obama.
5. Do Native Americans have more rights to be in America than lets say anyone else.
6. How many "Hispanic Ranches" where lost to "Go West Young Man".
7. After the Mexican American War, who stole all the land which belong to the people in the west.
8. Are there alot of Hispanics who's children are now educated to know their civil rights, and the once oppresive politcal groups are now worried about how to controle them.
9. Why should low hard labour jobs be the ones lost to illegals and not high paying white collars ones.
10.Why have the Hispanics in America been so discounted. ("No Dogs or mexicans Allowed").
Should I go on, are those enough questions for us to pounder and stop the bickering, America needs to embrace all people around us without a Neo-Nazi pre-requisite to being a party member.
American history is full of past injustice and lack of recognition of people who have helped to make us (US) strong, please don't let weak minded ideas fail us now.
The unemployment rate in Clark County alone is over 100,000, up from 70,000 from the end of last year. This is not including citizens who have run out of unemployment benefits. I have been commenting on this for quite sometime now. In the work force they are taking bilingual workers and putting them in lead positions, then giving them 10 or more illegals to supervise. I know people in construction who have not been able to get work, even through the end of this boom, just because of what is going on.
Believe me it's getting worse. Now Harry Reid and 19 other Senators and Congressmen anre sponsoring a bill which has failed a few times in the past, the Dream Act 2009. This is to enable any child( who may be 30 years old now ) who were brought into this country by illegal parents a path to citizenship. The problems are we don't have records that can prove how old an illegal was when they were brought into our country. If this bill passes, then when over 1 million (of course the Government does not have an exact number) illegal"children" are given a path to citizenship, they can bring in all of their relitives with a greencard thru family member. If you figure 10 to 20 family members each, we are looking at 10 to 20 illegals coming in. Like the U.S. really needs that!
It so hard to believe that in todays world with all the unemployed Americans we have, our elected officials can find time to keep criminals working and enable more criminals to work instead of upholding our laws and ridding our country of these job theives and letting good Americans get back to work. Our country definately needs a change, of government officials.
Nance, it's not just the Dems. who favor this illegal situation - BOTH parties are at fault - BOTH parties owe so many 'favors' to Corporate America - once elected it becomes PAYBACK TIME for all those campaign contributions that help put these crooked politicians in office. BOTH parties have done NOTHING for YEARS and it just keeps getting worse. I see it in my line of work on a daily basis. Whenever I see a White or Black American pull up in response to a service call, a delivery, whatever, I am totally shocked. I'd say at least 90% of the workers that pass thru where I work are illegal - either that or they've lived to the ripe old age of 30-40yrs and never learned a word of English. I honestly don't believe that for one minute. Those born and raised here CAN speak English - those who sneak across the borders, for the most part, CAN'T - and don't even want to TRY to learn. This Country is loaded with American citizens who are out of work and still this madness with the illegal situation continues. And now Obama wants to legalize these people?? Comes as no surprise - the only thing is - if McCain had won - he'd being saying and doing the very SAME THING pertaining to this situation.
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well spoken TRANSPLANTED.....
there are two angles looking into this issue
One is that the companies/corporations are hiring more undocumented workers because they know that they can low ball the wages. they know that the undocumented workers will take anything just to survive or send money home.
The other is that most if not all Americans will not want to work at these jobs. They think they can get paid better. How many Americans are willing to do yard works in the triple digits temperature? How many are willing do dishes/clean tables clock in and clock out?
It's a two way street here. Supply and demand.
Let's not forget that the current job cuts are those with much higher paying jobs such as banking, investment, etc. Do you think an ex-banker will take one of these jobs taken by the illegal in Nevada?
The illegals will work for less and still be able to buy a home because they don't mind piling into a home - mother, father, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, grandma, grandpa, cousin, friend of cousin etc etc etc. The American people were not brought up to live like that - we get married, leave the nest, build our own nest and get together with our extended family on holidays and various occasions - but at the end of the day each family departs for THEIR OWN NEST - I, for one, do NOT want to have to live with every tom, dick and harry just to be able to make a house payment - but this is what this illegal situation in this country is beginning to force people to do. This country should be ashamed of itself for not puttng the best interests of its citizens FIRST and FOREMOST. Other countries will deny citizenship to people if the country feels the potential new citizen will create a financial burden to their natural born citizens - I applaud those countries for putting their own peoples needs first - that's how it should be - after all - what would the country be without hard-working, taxpaying citizens? Some countries seem to be able to get it right - this country, however, simply refuses to do so - all for the benefit of Corporate American GREED.
You know, it's these damn illegal aliens that pretty much have ruined everything. They are the lawbreakers, they are the reason that our children can't read, it's just ridiculous. Since, you know, there are non-illegal aliens lining up for low paying service industry jobs. In fact, yeah, I see it, a line out the door of the landscaping service place that I work, a bunch of out of work non-illegal aliens. Oh, then I woke up. No, folks, no one is applying for the $8 an hour labor jobs out there. Oh, why don't we pay more? Because our clients would FIRE us for increasing their contracts. Why? Because it doesn't take a college degree to mow a lawn or blow out some rock. Hmmm, what a dilemma. We should just go union, ask the UAW, they are winning their fight right now. All of them will be out of jobs shortly. But, maybe you would like to pay $100K for a pick up truck? $20 for a Big Mac. $5,000 a month for the common area in your neighborhood to be serviced by a landscaper. Sure, that will solve all of our problems. Wake up folks, we've been importing cheap labor the entire time the U.S. has been a country. What about the Irish, the Chinese, child labor during the industrial revolution. This country was and will continue to built on cheap labor. Or, the jobs will be outsourced to countries that can supply the cheap labor. Become a small service industry business owner, maybe you can figure out a solution to this problem. I dare ya!
Thanks Transplanted!
The Pew Hispanic Center makes a poor conclusion based on poor fact findings. Their idea of undocumented is misleading. Their survey to establish undocumented people boarders on Keno (Hit or Miss), their agents would ask certain questions of profiled people, questions of which may seem invasive and if the person doesn't answer the result is undocumented.
This is just another part of their report not mentioned.
"The current Mexican share of all foreign born living in the U.S.--32%--is the highest concentration of immigrants to the U.S. from a single country since the late 19th century. But it is not unprecedented. Irish immigrants represented a third or more of the immigrant population from 1850 to 1870. Germans were 26% to 30% of the foreign-born population from 1850 to 1900".
So, where should we make the divide, who to keep out or keep by denying citizenship to american borm people of all past immigrants that can't demonstrate legal rights of entrance or citizenship.