ELECTION 2008 :
Less a Democratic voting bloc than ever
What Sen. Joe Lieberman’s visit to Temple Beth Sholom tells us about changes in the Jewish constituency.
Republican state Sen. Bob Beers, left, greets Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, a former Democrat, at Temple Beth Sholom in Las Vegas. Lieberman has endorsed McCain’s presidential bid and spoke to the congregation this week on his behalf.
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Rabbi Felipe Goodman looked on Monday as Sen. Joe Lieberman, a onetime Democrat turned independent, spoke to his congregation on behalf of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
Goodman, who has presided over Temple Beth Sholom for the past decade, has never seen his congregation more polarized. The warm reception Lieberman received is one indication that Jews, once firmly in the Democratic camp, are leaving the party, for a variety of reasons, as the presidential campaign enters the home stretch.
“People have lost friends over this,” Goodman said.
Indeed, a half-dozen Jewish leaders interviewed by the Sun this week said their congregations are more split over this election than over any in recent memory, with half of those leaders, both conservative and liberal, saying their congregants are evenly divided between the two parties.
“I think Jews are becoming more than ever before a two-party entity,” said Rabbi Kenneth Segel of Temple Sinai, who oversaw Arizona’s largest congregation for 30-plus years before moving to Las Vegas two years ago.
The split is surprising. Jews have traditionally been a strong Democratic constituency.
“When I was a kid growing up I didn’t know anybody who was Jewish who wasn’t a Democrat,” said Rep. Shelley Berkley, a leader on Jewish causes, both in Las Vegas and in Congress. “Now, with the passage of time, I can’t make that statement anymore.”
According to a 2002 Gallup analysis, party identification among Jews had remained static in the previous decade: 50 percent Democrat, 17 percent Republican and 32 percent independent. Those independents, however, voted for the past two Democratic presidential tickets in significant numbers. In 2000, Al Gore won 79 percent of the Jewish vote. Four years later, John Kerry captured 74 percent.
Recent national Gallup polls show Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama leading McCain by 62 percent to 29 percent among Jewish voters.
(In the Nevada Democratic caucus, Jews favored New York Sen. Hillary Clinton by a margin of more than 2-to-1 over Obama.)
Jewish leaders in Las Vegas say the vote seems to be fracturing along generational lines.
“The Jewish community is looking deeper and more into the issues than our fathers did 50 years ago,” said Rabbi Hershel Brooks of Bet Knesset Bamidbar. “As any child of the modern times, they feel a little more free to choose and they do. They think about it and they don’t necessarily follow the way their father voted.”
Jewish leaders say they first began seeing a shift during the presidency of Ronald Reagan. His staunch support for Israel and economic policies were popular among many Jews, splintering some from what had been an overwhelmingly Democratic base since the days of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
But now, said Rabbi Sanford Akselrad of Congregation Ner Tamid, “you’re several generations in.” Some Jews, he added, “relate less to the immigrant experience and working-class values.”
Nevada Jews have trended more conservative in recent elections. In 2004, Kerry’s share of the Jewish vote in Nevada was 12 points less than what he captured among Jews nationwide.
Gary Ratner, the Southwest director of the American Jewish Congress, said the movement to the right has been glacial, but there have been “blips” in Jewish support for Democrats, namely Jimmy Carter, who won 64 percent of the vote in 1976 and 45 percent in 1980.
Segel said Jews have split their tickets as the parties have become less monolithic, and wealthier Jews are being drawn to the Republican Party because of its embrace of limited government and low taxes.
“One tends to be more concerned with preserving and protecting what you have,” Segel said. “Taxation and other issues become much more important.”
In fact, neither candidate is attracting support so much as repelling it to the other, Segel said.
“We know more and yet we’re more cynical,” Segel said. “I’m not hearing great affection or adoration for either of these two candidates, by and large. I don’t see the passion for the man or the party ... It’s more of a negative elimination than it is a positive selection.”
Supporters of both tickets have sought to drive a wedge in the Jewish vote on the politically potent issue of Israel.
Seizing on comments Obama made early in the campaign, opponents have spread rumors about the Democrat’s alleged pro-Palestinian leanings. Obama told a small group of Democratic activists in Iowa, “Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people.” He later clarified his remarks in a presidential debate, saying his words were actually an indictment of the Palestinian leadership, which he deemed responsible for much of the Palestinians’ suffering.
In June, Obama delivered a speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in which he voiced full-throated support for Israel. Berkley called the speech “extraordinary.” She added: “I’ve never spoken to a candidate who knew the issues so well and was so supportive.”
Still, for some Jewish leaders, the matter remains unsettled.
“I think McCain’s record on Israel is very clear,” Akselrad said. “Obama’s is less clear.”
In fact, as evangelicals’ stock with the Republican Party has risen, the party has sought to portray itself as the stronger advocate for Israel.
On Monday, Lieberman emphasized McCain’s support for Israel, relating comments the Republican made to an interviewer when asked about the possibility of a military strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. “He said, ‘On my watch, as president of the United States, I will never allow the second Holocaust to occur in my lifetime.’ ”
The line brought the crowd to its feet.
Then there were the e-mails alleging that Obama is a Muslim (he’s Christian) that circulated among the Jewish community for months, as did video clips of his controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.
The resulting uncertainty among Jews prompted the Jewish Council for Education and Research to launch JewsVote.org, a $500,000 online campaign aimed at countering rumors about Obama’s faith and his stance on Israel, among other issues, in the Jewish community.
The McCain campaign senses an opening among Jews, who represent about 4 percent of voters in Nevada and about 3 percent nationally, thus dispatching Lieberman to Temple Beth Sholom on Monday.
McCain’s vice presidential pick, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, may bring a problem though. Palin is a social conservative with strong evangelical Christian roots. Her record on Israel is thinner than Obama’s. And last month, her church, the Wasilla Bible Church, gave its pulpit over to David Brickner, the executive director of Jews for Jesus, a group viewed with deep hostility by most Jewish organizations, including the Anti-Defamation League.
Palin’s pastor, Larry Kroon, told Sun partner Politico that Palin was in the audience that day but cautioned against attributing Brickner’s views to her. In the Politico piece, a spokesman for the McCain-Palin campaign dismissed the notion that Palin would be problematic among Jews, adding, “Once she’s had a chance to make her positions clear on these issues, the Jewish community is going to be very, very comfortable with her.”
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It is very important for Jewish voters to support the Democratic Party.
First, most Jewish voters have liberal tendencies and it is natural for them to support liberal politicans.
Second, in a poll over 70% of blacks either have anti-semitic or somewhat anti-semitic beliefs. One would think that the Democratic Party would offically support Palestine over Israel. I guess the Democratic Party is smart to ignore blacks on this issue. It is important for Jewish voters and money doners to keep a check on this anti-semitic tendency in the Democratic Party.
There are many in Obama circle of friends and advisors that are anti-Israel. Even Biden has had some episodes that some would consider not friendly to Israel. Obama's church has had Hamas anti-Israel literature in the lobby. Hamas is cheering for an Obama win. There is a picture of Obama and his wife sitting with extreme anti-Israel Professor Said at Said's keynote speech. Obama has put down the Likud Party.
Obama said at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) 2008 Policy Conference, "The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper." I am sure that Jewish voters may have questions on how a Palestine state can be contiguous without making Israel non-contiguous.
It is extremely important for Jewish voters to be part of the Obama inner circle. They must keep Obama in check. They must keep the black voters in check.
Obama is Carter II, in every way. Including his support for the Palestinians. Carter has been an Obama supporter and mentor and then gets a mild rebuke from Obama in the face of the election for meeting with Hamas. Obama is a danger to not just Israel but the Jewish faith. Liberation theology has no tolerance for any cause except the rise of the black race and blame for everyone else.
Wow, Nance is stereotyping both Jewish AND African-American voters? It must be Wednesday.
I am just stating poll facts......The truth does hurt sometimes....
Wow, the article is stereotyping Christain voters!!!!
jfnamce,
Or alternatively, they could contribute to the defeat of Obama, and thereby eliminate the threat he poses to a number of their interests.
Personally, as a Jew, I see my interests much more aligned with the conservatives than the liberals. A number of the issues that originally drove the Jews to the democrats no longer the same.
FACT: If you earn less than $250,000 a year, Obama will ***LOWER*** your federal income tax - not increase it.
FACT: Your Obama tax cut will be larger than your McCain tax cut.
FACT: McCain gives a multi-millionaire a tax cut that is ***8 times bigger*** than a low income earners tax cut.
See for yourself. Here is proof!!!!!!
Here is a link to a calculator you can use to see how much of a tax break you will get with Obama's plan. (I haven't been able to find one yet for the McCain plan. Why is that????.)
http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/
Here is a link to a very clear tax cut comparison chart. This chart is referenced in many newspapers and magazine articles.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
Here is the link to get the full 56-page comparison of the two tax plans published by the independent Tax Policy Center.
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publicati...
I never understood the recent support that many Jews have with the Dems. The Clintons were very chummy with Arafats, having them at the White House many times. Bill gets millions in 'donations' to his library from the Arabs. Carter is much more supportive of the Palestinians than he is of Israel. The conservatives are total supporters of Israel, yet many Jews dont vote for them. The world's smartest people, often vote against themselves. Why?
Fact: Obama will give about $1.95 more a day in tax cuts than McCain to the middle class that actually pays income tax. Wow....I will get ready to buy my cheesburgers!!!!
Fact: Obama will increase taxes on job creation capital investments. There sure will help jobs in Las Vegas.....wait a minute...Obama is reconsidering his tax increase plan for he is admiting that it "might hurt" the economy....LOl
LOL, just a few minutes ago, Nance was criticizing the Tax Policy Center as being too left-wing, now he's citing facts from them?
Double standard!
I'm going to continue to drill you on your bogus capital gains tax nonsense.
Obama's plan is to exempt lower-income and some small businesses from capital gains taxes, while resetting them to the same level we had under Clinton. Essentially, you're arguing that the capital gains tax has a direct correlation to job creation.
If that is true, then we should welcome the new capital gains rate, as it CREATED jobs under Clinton, whereas the reduced rate ELIMINATED jobs under Bush.
McCain's tax plan gives little to the middle class and much to the wealthy. We've seen this tax plan in action, and it has failed.
It's time for a change. It's time to give middle-class workers and families more money in their pocket to pay for school supplies or gas.
Nance may ridicule another $800 in my pocket, but I'll gladly take it.
What kind of a neocon ridicules a tax break?
theBS is lying again.
I am not quoting from the Tax Center Policy.
There are other studies that just focus tax cuts to the individual taxpayers.
Clinton lowered capital gains tax rates.
Also(something that the wonderful theBS Tax Center does not take into account) is that historically whenever one raises the capital gains tax rate then actual revenue from capital gains taxes go down.
theBS will buy many cheeseburgers with is Obama $1.95 more a day in tax cuts over McCain.
Unfortunately there will be less money moving into job creation investments because of Obama's higher taxes.
Even Obama is admitting that his higher taxes might cause harm to the economy.
Au contraire, not lying.
You base your "$1.95 more a day" from the projections off of this page:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/eco...
Those numbers are based off the Tax Policy Center's projections. It's even noted beneath the graph.
In fact, you created your "$1.95 per day" number when replying to my use of that page in a previous comment.
Sorry, Charlie, you're toast!
You know, I'd like to know where Nance's projections are coming from, then.
Maybe he isn't aware, but Nance's own projections have been steadily increasing...
Nance, August 18: "It gives $1.64 more a day to the middle class over McCain's plan."
In a day, Nance's projection for the Obama tax cut rose 3%.
Nance, August 19: "Obama plan for middle class folks earning between $35k to $70k will give $1.69 daily tax break over McCain."
Then, Nance's projection for the Obama tax cut rose a whopping 19% from his original estimate!
Nance, August 29: "She wants to give an extra $1.95 a day more in tax breaks than McCain to the middle class so that the middle class can buy cheesburgers....oops wrong again that is Obama"
Finally, it arrived at an increase of 21% from his original projection... just 15 days later.
Nance, September 2: "He wants to give us an extra $1.98 a day (Cheeseburger plan) in tax breaks over McCain while at the same time heavily increase taxes on job creation capitial investments."
At this rate, even with Nance's projections settling back around $1.95, things are looking better and better for Obama with Nance's projections.
Thanks Nance!
All voters, not only the Jewish voter, must rethink a vote for Obama.
The person and party who started the damage to the American economy were the economic policies signed into law in 1999 by the Democrat Bill Clinton with his signing of the Financial Services Modernization Act.
When will the media ask Obama "what fundamentals of the economy are broken"? How is Obama going to fix an economy if he believes that the Fundamentals of the American economy are broken?
When the fundamentals of an economy are broken, then there is NO Economy. (economics 101) Obama has shown he knows absolutely nothing about a countries economy. These economic policies that Obama says are broken, are the economic policies signed into law in 1999 by the Democrat, Bill Clinton with his signing of the Financial Services Modernization Act. that removed too many restrictions governing the economy. Keep smiling".
peterclarke,
I have rethought my vote for Obama and it is now very easy to vote for Obama.
The laws you want to lay at the feet of Clinton were pushed through by Sen. Phil Graham. Yes they same Phil Graham that is Sen. McSame's economic guru. And, we can thank Phil Graham's wife for giving our fine county the Enron Loophole that has given us the oil prices we have today through speculation.
Moses could be running and if he had Phil Graham as his economic advisor I could not vote for him.
Tony Farve has it right pc.
Gramm slipped in a 262 page bill into the Gargantuan Spending bill that you speak of.
Gramm is responsible for the rise of the wild and woolly $62 trillion swaps market. And he was chairman of the McCain campaign and a top economic adviser for McCain--until he dismissed Americans worried about the economy as "whiners." After that comment, McCain dumped Gramm. But was Gramm truly excommunicated from McCain land? Last month, he attended a meeting of McCain's top supporters in Aspen, Colorado. And at a dinner that day, McCain singled out Gramm for praise. Last week, failed Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul revealed that Gramm, now an exec for Swiss banking giant UBS (which also lost billions of dollars due to subprime loans and swaps), had recently called him as part of a McCain effort to win Paul's endorsement. Paul turned Gramm down. (Both Gramm and Paul are Texas Republicans.) Gramm's Paul-courting effort seems to indicate that the fellow who has done much to cause the current financial troubles (and who was once considered a possible Treasury secretary should McCain win the White House) is back in the good graces of the McCain campaign.
FACT: Obama will NOT raise or lower anyone's taxes. Clinton did NOT raise or lower taxes. Reagan did NOT raise or lower taxes.
FACT: The president cannot raise taxes or lower taxes.
FACT: The president can only propose to have taxes raised or lowered.
FACT: The HOUSE originates the raising and lowering of revenue withe Senate advising and making amendments.
Even though we pretty much ignore most of what the constitution says can and cannot be done at least that has not been ignored...yet.
Oh really? Obama holds a 61-31 lead in Southeast Florida, where most of the state's Jewish population is concentrated.
I find all the Jewish support for McCain distressing as his running mate attended an anti-semetic pentacostal church that believes Jews must convert to Christianity in order to survive the rapture!!!!!! Being a Jew myself I am more than just a little frightened by this!
I guess you are right, Nicole.
It is better for the Democrats to keep a watchful eye on the Democratic party.
According to one poll, 70% of blacks are either anti-semitic or somewhat anti-semitic.
Better keep a watchful eye on those blacks who probably support Palenstine and hate Israel.
hey Nicole, you are like the guard at the camp.
look out for the real enemy not the imaginary one.
Interesting how it's almost eight years into a Republican presidential term (which included a FULL six years of COMPLETE Republican control of the government) and the right wing STILL can't get off Clinton.
You'd think SOMEONE would catch a clue at some point.
Call me an optimist.
The article is missing the important point that counters Berkley's Obama praise. Obama reversed his Jerusalem position within 24 hours. That's right: Obama pandered to Jews off a teleprompter speech prepared by legions of well paid staffers and then reversed himself through the same staffers. Anyone with a sense of decency shouldn't be tolerating such demeaning behavior.
Obama spent decades in the most anti-capitalist anti-Israeli Chicago politics. He had no serious opposition for his senate seat and ran for president after 143 days in the Senate. When he was present to vote, he voted in the most left wing way. There is a tiny chance that once in, Obama will be moderate but we don't want to find out. His campaign is full of left wing radicals. It's no wonder so many people are not buying Obama as the great bi-partisan uniter.
Obama's plan to choke the living daylights out of the US capitalism:
Tax 1: lift caps off to feed the Social Security money pit
Tax 2: let Bush tax cuts expire, raise other payroll taxes
Tax 3: let death tax to come back in 2011, higher than ever
Tax 4: tax any industry that he may deem to have 'windfall' profits
Tax 5: overtax any industry in the name of environment
Tax 6: double (!!!) capital gains tax - it's never been done before, watch trillions of investment dollars leave the US
Obama promised to lower middle class taxes. How is that going to happen if there won't be much of the economy left after the 6 taxes above kill it? Presumably some of the money will come from oil company 'windfall' profits. That's a great way to make gas even more expensive. Also don't forget his bloated government-run inefficient health care and many other programs worth many trillions of dollars.
Obama is on track do more to damage capitalism than anyone in the old USSR.
Obama is not running for Carter's 2nd term. His reign will make Carter administration look good.
Obama is not running for Carter's 2nd term, but McCain would sure like to give Bush's policy's a longer life-span. No matter how hard he tries, his argument against his own party just doesn't hold water...especially when you look at his record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJThPjvsc...