Monday, Sept. 15, 2008 | 10:30 a.m.
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The results of two polls released this past weekend show Nevada in the red column.
Zogby International updated its map -- moving the state from a toss-up purple state -- after getting the results of a poll taken from Sept. 9 to Sept. 12. The results show Republican presidential nominee John McCain at 50.1 percent and Democratic nominee Barack Obama at 42.5 percent.
McCain's lead of 7.6 percent is within the poll's margin of error of 4.2 percent. The Zogby poll showed 7.4 percent of Nevadans were undecided.
"We're turning it red for now," Zogby said about Nevada on its Web site. "McCain is close to 50 percent and he now holds a seven-point lead."
Zogby's Nevada poll was an online survey of 572 likely voters.
The results of a Rasmussen Reports poll released Saturday show McCain ahead of Obama, 49 percent to 46 percent, which is unchanged from a month ago.
A nationwide AP-GfK poll of likely voters late last week found 48 percent of those surveyed preferred McCain, while 44 percent favored Obama.






Obama's lead in New York has shrunk from 18 percent to 5 percent. This could be the biggest landslide since Reagan. The democrats are now worried about losing control of the Senate and even the House.
The Iraq Foreign Minister said in todays New York Post that Obama tried to delay the troop withdrawl agreement with the United States until a new President was elected. He actually tried to keep the troops there longer so he could campaign against it.
people are starting to see thru this Obama scam, maybe whore house Harry can be next to go.
It is still a long way to go.
Anything can happen.
Polls might be worthless this time around.
The newly "registered" voters may have an impact.
The "Bradley" affect in states like Nevada, PA, Ohio and other states are unknown, too.
If I was a Democrat then I would be pissed. If Hillary was running then she would be 10-15 points ahead but the Democratic primary rules favor minority candidates and they got one.
Also, it seems that many newly won Democratic congressional seats are in play now and some weakly held senate and congressional seats are strengthening.
There might be October surpises on both sides.
The Palin investigation from the Kangroo Court in Alaska is due out on Oct 10th. It is investigation that is ran by a Democratic senator that has already declared that Palin will be damaged and it will be an October surprise. The Democrats have annouced a conclusion before the investigator has started. The top three Democrats on the investigation committee are seen in a photo in the Obama Alaskan headquarters. Both head Democrat and the lead investigator are friends with the commissioner that resigned. LOL...That sure is a fair investigation. The whole thing is about a state trooper that has already admited to using a taser on his 11 year-old son. I am sure the Democrats will twist the facts and play this up 220%.
Obama is hiding, as best he can, his time in NYC when he attended Coloumbia. He will not release his college transcripts. Did something happended there? Could it be the dirt that Hillary has on him? There is a big rumor running out there about Obama. I wonder if it is true.
Today, Wall Street drops 500 points, the worst one day plunge since 911. Two major American financial institutions need bailing out, or buying out. A week ago, FannieMae/FreddiMac get bailed out. AIG and Washington Mutual are on thin ice.
And today, John McSame announces the "fundamentals of the economy are strong". A few months ago, he tells a TV interviewer he's not knowledgeable about the economy. Senator, the fundamentals of American capitalism are business, banking, and Wall Street.
Senator, you have been in office for 24 years, and for the last eight you have been part of the Republican controlled congress. Diluting oversight, putting industry execs in positions of regulation over their own businesses, and allowing lobbyists to run the government.
But only now, in the judgment of John McSame do we need reform. And who better to reform than the candidate who went along with all the garbarge that brought us here. And who will advise him on these reforms? The staff of lobbyists that now surround him?
People are just now waking up to this reformer, and after his incoherent response to the financial crisis we can see thru this whole maverick scam. I bet McSame wishes Sideshow Sarah was there to distract the audience with her litany of lies. Sold any more planes lately? Or tell us about the tanning beds you bought for the governor's mansion, or the realtor you made Director of the Alaska State Division of Agriculture.
People are interested in the Palin Troopergate investigation, which was started by a bipartisan committee of five, three Republicans, and 2 Democrats, long before her selection as VP. Today we learn that Palin will not talk to the investigators. What is she hiding?
I am also looking forward to Sarah Palin releasing her college transcripts from all 6 colleges she attended in five years, and I would also like another look at John McSame's rank at graduation-I understand he was fifth from the bottom.
This is the first I've heard about something in Obama's transcripts; maybe Governor Palin can get a government earmark to study them. She's already put in for $198 million of earmarks this year.
By the way, the New York Post "story" about Obama wanting to delay troop withdrawal, was written by Amir Taheri. Taheri worked under the Shaw of Iran and is living as a refugee. His only hope of returning to his home country is if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is overthrown...by the US or Israel. Did I mention he's also an advisor to President Bush? I'm sure is story is just as accurate in his reporting as Saddam's propagandist, Baghdad Bob.
Hahahaha! Another red state falls into line! Say goodbye to your retirement - social security to go to Wall Street crooks (er, privatization). Say goodbye to your kids - off to war for McCain (bomb, bomb, bomb Iran). Say goodbye to your savings - can you say $6 gas (drill baby, drill). Say hello to nuclear waste. Say hello to more republican lobbyists like Abramoff. Hope Nevadans like the color red - that's where your budget's going to be.
I dont get it........Citizens of NEVADA WAKE UP.
While Governor Palin claims "exemplary leadership" the truth is rural Alaska is a disaster in multiple areas: human health, lack of infrastructure, the environment, and the economy are equal to that of Third World countries. Sarah Palin fails to effectively address these critical needs.
Alaska has the highest rates of homelessness per capita in the US, overflowing sewage lagoons in dozens of communities, and no running water in more than 150 villages - that's 25% of the population without running water. Palin continues to ignore the needs of the homeless, fails to recognize Third World living conditions in her home state, and ignores climate change victims, polluted waters, village health hazards and unattended military contaminate sites. Access to some remote communities has been cut off, villages are flooding, landfill contents and overflowing sewage lagoons are contaminating communities, and several villages are being forced to pack up and move. Governor Palin says she doesn't believe climate change is caused by humans. Regardless of the cause, she remains unresponsive to the needs of climate change refugees and victims in Alaska.
Alaska also has the highest rate of cancer per capita in the United States. Governor Palin is silent on this issue and is solely focused on the natural gas pipeline and oil drilling in protected and fragile places.While Palin asserts that resource extraction can be done responsibly, North Slope oil extraction has resulted in hundreds of spills and leaks monthly. On her watch, polluters have not been brought to justice and environmental regulations have been relaxed by her controversial appointee to head the Department of Environmental Conservation.Larry Hartig, Palin's pick for Commissioner, was the lead lawyer defending Red Dog Mine (owned by Teck Cominco) which is rated as the worst mine in the country for discharging contaminants into the environment. Red Dog Mine is number one on the national Toxic Release Inventory.The Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation has continued to undermine the integrity of the Clean Water Act by ignoring the
anti-degradation act, mixing zone laws and making discharge exemptions for oil companies allowing daily oil sludge discharge into the Cook Inlet resulting in millions of tons of contaminants in Alaska's pristine waters. Palin sued the federal government for trying to protect the polar bear population. Alaska also the highest unemployment in rates in the country as more than 150 villages face 50 to 80 percent rates of unemployment.
I wouldn't vote for either one - we are doomed no matter which way we lean.
Obama supportes would be well served to ignore Palin and the whole Palin factor. Any discussion about her is a trap designed to turn this election into a character assignation competition. This is the same stale bait that the Republicans repeatedly employ that the poor old Democrats of the past two decades fall for every time. Whether we agree or not, rural folk, christian folk, "small town america" love(s) Palin - just like they did Truman, and Reagan. They see themselves in these simpleton politicians. Any attempt to discredit her enables the Republican establishment to go on Fox, etc, and play their favorite two cards:
(1) Ya see folks, them liberals are a bunch of elitist who don't want folk like you and me governin'. They sneer at yall because they don't really love America (just like we hate city slickers).
(2) We're the real Americans - true Patriots through and through - just like yall (never mind that our tax structure smothers the American dream by making us owners richer and you workers poorer, or that we are taking away your constitutional rights).
This transparent strategy is based solely upon the apparent incompetence of the Democratic party and the corporate media, and it seems to work every presidential election (except against Carter and Clinton, two 'aw shucks' southerners, who countered by playing up their own common folksiness).
Any argument about Palin being inexperienced or unqualified is exactly what McCain's team (Karl Roves best men) wanted all along because we just wind up comparing our presidential nominee to their veep nominee. So even when we win this obvious argument - we actually lose (votes).
But instead of us complaining about all the 'gotcha journalism', which sells more ads than covering the actual platforms would - We should inform people about Obama's plan to revitalize the economy by creating a green infrastructure, complete with green jobs. Talk about Obama's tax code versus McCain's, or what we are spending in our bloody misguided occupation of Iraq. Discuss our beloved country's current amoral policies on torture, and how these reflect on American/Christian values. Talk about anything, but about someone who may be Vice President, which in her case is an impotent job that no one should vote for or against.
Very well-said, bayardj.
We've seen these tricks before ... in 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004. One would think the American public would wake up at some point & recognize it for the empty noise that it is.
But when you have a (corporate-owned and controlled) media that thinks its "job" includes reporting on such earth-shattering "issues" as what color clothing the candidates are wearing these days, one can clearly see how we managed to get a fake cowboy with an even more fake Texas accent to play the role of POTUS for the past eight years.
Sadly I'm not at all hopeful for the IQ of the American public. Call me an elitist; you'd be correct.
DOG, say something worth responding to and I'll be more than happy to oblige you in an actual debate.
Because you see, DOG, you actually believe you've made up your own mind. You believe that all these "thoughts" have just come to you and that you, The Great And Powerful DOG, are quite capable of independent thought.
You are sadly mistaken; you are nothing more than a meme.
Look it up.
BTW, I just read a report regarding one Jon Decker, ostensibly a "reporte" on MSNBC Live. It seems Mr. Decker bemoaned the fact that Joe Biden was (GASP!) ***wearing French cuffs***. Mr. Decker was implying that Biden couldn't possibly identify with "the people" when he was wearing French cuffs.
What Mr. Decker is ignorant of (among many, many other things) is that French cuffs are available in most mid-range department stores for under $40.
(Oddly enough, however, Mr. Decker didn't think it worthwhile to discuss the Republican candidate's multiple houses or lifestyle. Yes, I can clearly see that ol' debbil ... the Liberal Media.)
THIS is what passes as "news" and "reporting" on the Presidential campaign. Shades once again of 2000 and THE HORROR of earthtones.
Oops ... "reporte" of course should be "reporter". LOL.
I want McCain to win because things are going so well in this country right now that we've got to continue on this current path. I actually wish George Bush could run for a third term because things might go downhill without him.
No, I want Obama to win.
He has an great experience.
He has done so much with that amazing 3 years as a part-time senator and those blazing 7 years as a state senator.
He wants to increase taxes on capital job creation investments. That is exactly what we need in Las Vegas.....fewer jobs...we just got to much of that.
He hates drilling for oil.....yuck...I rather pay $20 a gallon in 6 years.......we need to keep those trillions of oil and gas locked away forever..woooohooo.
I just love that Obama has excellent advisors surrounding him. Like the Fannie Mae ex-CEO's that got caught cooking the books to get themselves bigger bonuses....we need that expertise.
Yep, we need the Obama.
Palin has come out in favor of war against Russia over Georgia and South Ossetia. The Russian leader has responded to her threats and wont back down.
"Palin the pit-bull" is a threat to world peace, picking a fight with a nuclear power.
No one wins a nuclear war.
Due our previous commitments in the Middle East, it is not a fight we can win with conventional weapons, either, no matter how big her flag pin is. McCain already says we need more troops just to deal with the Taliban.
Also the Russians are fighting the Chechen rebels, who are aiding the Al-Quaida, so if we fight the Russians we would be aiding the Al-Quaida.
I bet she didnt think of that!!
We would need to start a draft and start training them for mountain warfare and hope that if we win, the Russians dont nuke them. We would be fighting an endless cause, in the states south of Russia, unable to stop Russian reinforcements, because we dare not set foot on Russian soil.
It would be worse than Vietnam.
I am voting AGAINST HER AND MCCAIN. NO war with Russia over 1,500 year old feuds between the South Ossetian ethnic Iranians and the Georgian Christians, thank you.
Make the BUSH TAX CUTS PERMANENT!!
Why should the rich pay more for social programs like education, healthcare, and housing?!?! The middle class are the ones using these services!!!
McCain 08!!!!