Sunday, Oct. 26, 2008 | 2 a.m.
Jon Porter should be done, cooked, finis.
He’s a Republican congressman in a district that has metamorphosed from dead even in registration two years ago to a district with 40,000 more Democrats than Republicans. In the year of the Democratic wave, he should be history.
And yet, anecdotal and empirical data indicate, he is still alive in his bid against state Sen. Dina Titus for a fourth term. And because of a remarkable confluence of events, Porter may survive again, perhaps finding enough political sandbags to offset the possible tsunami.
All of the factors allowing Porter to potentially avoid getting swept away by the perfect Democratic storm were on display during Thursday night’s debate on KLVX-TV, Channel 10.
Porter is an astonishing candidate — he has a preternatural equanimity and message discipline matched only by the remarkable contrast between his benign, earnest public persona and a conscienceless, cutthroat approach to campaigning. The congressman smiled calmly all the way to a third term in 2006 as he insidiously and dishonestly labeled Tessa Hafen, a Henderson native, a carpetbagger.
Titus invoked Porter’s “win at any cost” tactics during the debate, but her campaign has shown an inability to react with alacrity to some of Porter’s over-the-top stuff, thus putting her challenge in jeopardy, Democratic insiders believe.
The seminal moment of the debate came several segments after Titus opened with a statement that included her supposed difference with Porter on “health insurance for children.” Porter, as he had in a previous debate, seized on the so-called SCHIP program to create some painfully awkward moments for Titus.
Porter voted against the program, saying it would have cut the Medicare coverage of 110,000 seniors because of a funding mechanism, and then switched on a subsequent vote when the provision was stripped. But his flip-flop also was viewed through this political prism: a congressman who once happily embraced President Bush trying to distance himself from the administration.
(The senior provision was not so black and white. It would have jeopardized so-called Medicare Advantage plans, but Democrats and Republicans disagreed over whether HMOs could have still kept the enrollees and taken a cut in profits.)
On four occasions Thursday, Porter asked Titus how she would have voted on the first version. And instead of challenging Porter’s declaration that it would have cut off seniors, she again (as she did in a previous debate) refused to answer. Not once. Not twice. Not three times. Four times.
So those who watched saw one candidate standing up for seniors and another ducking what should have been a simple question because she did not want to be perceived as anti-seniors.
It was an emblem of Porter’s amazing success as a candidate — his ability to find a phony issue, create effective advertising behind it and hope his underfunded opponent waits too long to respond. It happened with Hafen, who didn’t take the carpetbagger charge seriously until too late. And now Titus, after Porter ran weeks of ads implying she voted to quadruple her pension and raise taxes during the current economic crisis, and accusing her of double-dipping as a university employee and legislator, may have waited too long, too.
Titus did vote for the infamous 1989 pension increase, and she has raised hundreds of millions in taxes. But to imply she did this while “Nevada families are struggling” is outlandish — and yet effective if not rebutted.
The double-dipping charge — and Porter has repeatedly held up a Las Vegas Sun story to make the case — is a classic example of a Big Lie that may have had an effect. The claim actually is refuted within the same Sun story Porter held up as his “evidence” — showing just how utterly ruthless he can be — and Titus actually has cost herself tens of thousands of dollars by taking leaves to be a lawmaker. Belatedly, Titus has played the “if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em” game, by airing misleading ads about Porter’s votes “as the economy crumbles” — votes that are not contemporaneous. But is it too little, too late?
Titus may win based on sheer, overwhelming numbers of Democrats voting an Obama-Titus ticket. But Porter’s ads clearly have cut her — she may be bleeding independent voters — and it’s always hard to quantify how many nincompoops will vote against Titus because they don’t like her accent.
By the end of Thursday’s debate, Titus could barely contain her frustration at Porter’s tactics and portrayal of her career. But her frustration will pale in comparison to that of the state and national Democratic Party elite if the wave crashes down in Nevada on Nov. 4 and somehow misses Congressional District Three.






Is Obama stuffing the ballot boxes in Denver. 11,000 absentee ballots are missing and now the Denver election official says they weren't stolen, they just weren't made up. 45% lower than it should be and the postage bill should have told them. Are these in the hands of ACORN to mark as they wish? Is this election being stolen Chicago style?
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/loc...
The LV Sun says above
"Belatedly, Titus has played the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" game, by airing misleading ads about Porter's votes "as the economy crumbles" -- votes that are not contemporaneous."
So the LV Sun admits that state Sen. Dina Titus is lying about Jon Porter. Interesting.
neiman "Are these in the hands of ACORN..."
Political lies work better if you come right out and state the lie, then clarify after the fact. The open question method is useful, but not as good as the baseless suggestion.
Try it this way... "John McCain's Alzheimer symptoms are becoming a concern for voters."
"joane":
Political lies work best when only the lie is told repeatedly over time.
Prove McCain's exhibits actual, and not liberal projections/lies of, Alzheimer's?
See, lie ended!
Democrat voter-registrations only work to elect the inadequate Dina Taxus = if they vote like sheep!
"Political lies work best when only the lie is told repeatedly over time."
You are someone with great experience. I'll trust you on that assertion.
"...liberal projections..."
That's not how projections work. And, you need to decide if you respect the process or not. You can't just poo-pooh it as liberal (OMG, I'm still laughing at that one!) and then conveniently pull it out whenever it suits you.
So Makz, do people project or not? And if so, how does the process work? In your words, not Jung's.
Can't list McCain's ACTUAL Alzheimer's affliction, but your saying he has it?
"John McCain's Alzheimer symptoms are becoming a concern for voters."
Prove your assertion / lie? I hear "crickets" already!
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Projection:
From the liberal's fave source due to its alteration possibilities: Wikipedia
"In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one's own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others.
Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them.
The theory was developed by Sigmund Freud and further refined by his daughter Anna Freud, and for this reason, it is sometimes referred to as "Freudian Projection""
In short: you are what I say or think you are.
Projection; in my words:
Political-liberal self-defense mechanism which allows the in-denial liberal to scream at another (usually another trying to break the truth to them) what THEY are, have, think, can-do, cannot do or any other such attempts at shielding themselves from truth and context VIA ATTACK - to shield the original subject from the truth of the world around them.
Children do this by, perhaps, plugging their ears and yelling out loud to drown out the truth being relayed to them by another. Liberal message board trolls do this mainly by answering little-to-nothing of the truth presented them and - in most cases - hurl senseless personal attacks as the main method of response.
Usually exhibited by an unconTROLLable spasm of self-shielding via attack to protect - when a political liberal rebels against truth presented to them by a more credible truth-telling mid-conservative.
See: OBFUSCATE AND ATTACK AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Jung talks of dreams, which is why you seem to perseverate on his work. The Freud's work of the ACTION of "projection"; which is much more accurate and applicable to you and your "Amigos / Stooges" here.
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We do not communicate here by dreaming our posts through the keyboard - on to this forum.
You're on the wrong track (imagine THAT??) with Jung re: internal world of dreams. The Freud's applications to the actions of a REAL world is much more accurate, in my opinion.
Movin' on!!
You had to go to Wiki and look it up? You proved right off the bat that you didn't have a clue as to what you had called "liberal" days ago. In fact, not the slightest idea of what it even was! Hilarious. That's really really funny.
"Children do this by, perhaps, plugging their ears and yelling out loud to drown out the truth being relayed to them by another."
A wonderful job of overlaying your own material (above) for everyone's entertainment.
I love when you politicize it too! That part is hilarious. Let's see, other famous "liberals" who are down with the projection process? Jesus Christ, Mohamed, Buddha, Krishna, Rama, Shiva (it's all he's about!), Ram Das, Babaji, Neem Karoli Baba, and The Dalai Lama, just to name a few.
You can politicize it all you want. It's like calling a mountain liberal or a valley liberal or the sunrise liberal. My response is laughter!
Sure you want more on information on McCain's Alzhiemers? You would even deny he has Alzheimers symptoms! But they are clearer every day.
Why do you think it is that 88% of FOX viewers voted Republican in 2004? Do you think they have Alzhiemers too?
Dr. Dina Titus is a much better candidate, especially when it comes to important Nevada issues such as education, energy and tourism. Jon Porter has nothing meaningful to say, and it's time for him to go. His whole campaign is completely negative which really turns off the voters of district 3. We need to elect someone who truly cares about Nevada and is extremely intelligent. That candidate is Dina Titus.
'You had to go to Wiki and look it up?
You didn't state anything was wrong / inaccurate. Otherwise, non-response noted, check again!
You even moved away from Jung as fast as you've moved while here - and you're not dreaming.
Keep moving away from your own projections - it may be the first sign of recovery for you. Maybe?
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"Children do this by, perhaps....
A wonderful job of overlaying your own material (above) for everyone's entertainment."
A shallow and time-wasting response to reasonable assumptions and personal intrepretation. Irrelevant response noted, check.
Trying to intimate "everybody" is in agreement with you - gotta look THAT projectional delusion up, check!
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"I love when you politicize it too! That part is hilarious. Let's see, other famous "liberals" who are down with the projection process....."
I'm "projecting" you running away re: smoke and obfuscations noted and recorded, check. As well as "everybody" is NOT with you (prove it, don't hallucinate it, chief!)- the famous names mentioned were not asked for their input before their reputations were hi-jacked to fill out your hollow response. Counted!
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You can politicize it all you want. It's like calling a mountain liberal or a valley liberal or the sunrise liberal. My response is laughter!
Your rising laughter levels within yourself is a predictible next step of self-medication - to ease your own pain of generating such a small and impotent ACTUAL response, check. I'm laughing at you as well. And, THAT is a real life fact, not Jungian dream-theory.
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"Sure you want more on information on McCain's Alzhiemers? You would even deny he has Alzheimers symptoms! But they are clearer every day."
Asked to show evidence / proof and instead eviDENSEd avoidance-strategies = check! I do not want "information"; I want PROOF on actual onset-Alzheimer's re: McCain. !
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"Why do you think it is that 88% of FOX viewers voted Republican in 2004?"
Because their heads are set straight and they receive fair and balanced information in their lives. FOX (Rocks, tell a friend) has ongoing viewership ratings that swamp liberal cable outlets, with VERY few exceptions, almost ALL THE TIME beating their peers.
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"Do you think they have Alzhiemers too?"
Of course not. Asking me to confirm your "projections" / delusions is amusing and perhaps a cry for help - but ultimately futile. Your offering a piece of your projectional delusions for SOME kind of outside opinions IS a good sign. I am not qualified to dissect your dreams/projections = only your tangible offerings trolled out here.
I now wonder about you re: Alzheimer's - as your responses grow formulaic and feeble, though!
Is going the "boring / ineffectively projectional" route really in your best interests. OR, is it all you have "left"???
Makz, I mentioned all those names because they all taught the same thing. I did not expect you to agree with me. The very word "religion" describes the process.
You have missed, in every single post, that the Alzheimers suggestion was my way of having fun with you. Instead you helped me make my point by repeating it over and over again. It doesn't matter if it's true. It only matters if someone thinks it's true.
That's the Fox hallmark. Fox is the channel that defends it's right to lie and "make up" the news. Do you know why they defend that? Because they are not a news channel. They are entertainment. That's all. They do not adhere to a standard of truth, and do not intend too. They know that their viewers, like you, will either forget that or overlook it completely.
Tell you what Makz, if you've got the gonads to admit that Fox is utterly right sided, I'll tell you why I think liberals are so much about peace love and light. From the "projection" level.
Not counting my breaths here...
"Makz, I mentioned all those names because they all taught the same thing. I did not expect you to agree with me. The very word "religion" describes the process."
You used their reputations to burnish your failing argument. It didn't stand with you making an argument alone, so bring in some famous names - but don't reveal WHY you line them up to try and bail you out? Just too rich!!
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You have missed, in every single post, that the Alzheimers suggestion was my way of having fun with you."
Lately - I'm not into fun here. Step up or get lost! Perhaps if you had indicated it was a "joke" instead of front-lining it in your argument, I'd give it due consideration. you did not, so I did not!
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"It doesn't matter if it's true. It only matters if someone thinks it's true."
SO, now McCain does not REALLY exhibit early-Alzheimer's, but the mere act of SAYING it's true = makes it true enough for liberal purposes??
Sounds like the past 70 years of democrat / liberal spin-based political corrosions.
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"That's the Fox hallmark. Fox is the channel that defends it's right to lie and "make up" the news."
More opinional garbage. News and commentary ARE easily deduced and seperated at FOX. One can see almost EVERYBODY at one time or another at FOX (except, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, these days). Liberal "news" throughout - is mixed and infected with one-sided love for liberals and hate/attack or just ignore Conservatives.
Hear anything much about the NOW successful Iraq Liberation lately on the networks OR the liberal cable op-ed/news stations? Thought not!
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"Do you know why they defend that? Because they are not a news channel. They are entertainment. That's all. They do not adhere to a standard of truth, and do not intend too. They know that their viewers, like you, will either forget that or overlook it completely."
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............
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"Tell you what Makz, if you've got the gonads to admit that Fox is utterly right sided, I'll tell you why I think liberals are so much about peace love and light. From the "projection" level."
I've been carrying the water in this debate, but that's getting really boring. YOU start working here and just go ahead.
One more post I'll answer (anywhere on the overall forum)and I'm gone for today.
"I've been carrying the water in this debate, but that's getting really boring."
You would have to value both sides to see it any other way. I'm hoping at some point that will happen.
"YOU start working here and just go ahead."
Sorry, football is on. I'll work on it and post later today.
The truth about ACORN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdNgMKPV9...
Makz, fyi, it's when you insist "You used their reputations to burnish your failing argument." that you are at the core of your own projections.
I'm really quite sure of the reason I posted those names. I said so before. You told me to go look at myself in the mirror, I did and told you how, and you called it a "liberal thing". I've studied those religions and gurus, silly! They're all about that because it's universal knowledge. I didn't make it up. :)
Anyway, it ain't liberal or conservative, dude. It just is. Living in the truth means actually getting at it, for ourselves, each individually and as a whole. If you think being truthful with one's self about one's self is liberal, well, from my experience, that is very limiting.
So, why are liberals so about "peace love and light?".
I think it's because we are afraid. We think that maybe if we can work to understand ourselves, and others, that we have a better chance to survive. On the airy fairy side you could say "if we're nice to others they wont hurt us". But that is an unfair polarization.
It's more that we're about peace love and light because we feel that is the right thing to be. That acknowledging where we are culpable in our own situation, how we brutalize others and other nations, will ultimately keep us safe.
So I am for the real jihad. The one on the inside. The one we're we say "I'm not that!" and "I hate this and that".
We're afraid, okay?
Oh, I don't work with dreams much. I like working the myth better. It's more accessible somehow, but it all leads to the same place anyway.
Your turn.
Could it be that Titus is so disliked that she simply cannot win an election outside her Senate District? Aren't her negative poll numbers in the 20's or 30's? Can't win with negatives that high. Pretty simple to figure out.
If Dina Titus didn't have a "Texas Twang" she'd be a shoe-in. Of course, if she didn't have that dang twang she'd be Governor right now, instead of the nightmarish Gibbons. John Porter is an embarrasment to the state of Nevada, with his outright lying; not distortions of facts, but outright lies in his ads. All this other crap is just psycobable.
Gmag39....you just described the Nevada Democratic party that has been mailing flyers saying that Republicans want children dead or Republicans are for cancer.