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Published Wednesday, Sept. 8, 2010 | 9:56 a.m.
Updated Wednesday, Sept. 8, 2010 | 12:14 p.m.
In an interview with ABC’s Jon Karl in Minden this week, GOP Senate nominee denied saying that Democratic policies violate the First Commandment or that she said people might seek 2nd Amendment remedies because of distress in the populace – two things she clearly has said. It’s one thing for things to be taken out of context, as they frequently are in campaigns – it’s quite another to deny saying what is on tape!
To wit:
----Angle told Karl, “No I didn’t say that,” when he asked her about saying Democratic policies have created a pagan idol (that would be government) and that violates the First Commandment (no Gods before me). She went on to say she was talking to a Christian broadcaster “in very Christian terms…. You speak the language of the folks you are communicating with, the language that I used is in our country we have become a country put our faith not in God we trust ….but in government we trust.”
Oh that clears it up so nicely. Get the sphygmomanometer for Team Angle.
And that is exactly what she said. Want the evidence?
Here’s the link to the audio and transcript of what Angle originally said:
----Karl asked Angle: “When you say if things don’t turn out the right way in this election, people may seek Second Amendment remedies. What did you mean by that?”
Angle replied, “No, I don’t think that was exactly the way I said it.”
But of course it was. Here’s exactly what she said on the Lars Larson show in January:
“I hope that’s not where we’re going but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around and I’ll tell ya the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.”
She later on “Face to Face” and elsewhere backed off taking out Harry Reid (literally at least). But her explanation to Karl, as many of her revisionist history moments, tried to soften the truth:
“We were discussing once again, in a context of the Second Amendment, we were having a discussion about the Founding Fathers, and why they had put the Second Amendment into the Bill of Rights. And, they felt that there were opp...there were times, when governments became tyrannical, that we needed to have a place for the people to be able to secure the blessings of liberty. Which is what they did in the Revolutionary War, as you know, and that was why they put the Second Amendment into the Constitution. And, that was what we were speaking of on that program was the, the, um, whole Second Amendment and why it was there.”
Not quite, eh? Anyone on Team Angle for a Second Amendment self-remedy right now?
----On domestic enemies, she told Karl she was speaking of enemies “of the free market system.” And while I still find it hard to believe she actually thinks there are Benedict Arnolds among the Gang of 535, that’s what talker Bill Manders seemed to be saying when she foolishly agreed with him as he talked about the solemn oath to defend against foreign and domestic enemies on the day she announced her candidacy in October:
Manders: "You know I talk often about this oath that they give and it is to defend the Constitution and all that. But one of the things that is very important to me in this oath that they give is that they will defend against foreign and domestic enemies."
Angle: "Yes. Yes."
Manders: "We have domestic enemies. We have home-born homegrown enemies in our system. And I for one think we have some of those enemies in the walls of the Senate and the Congress."
Angle: Yes. I think you're right, Bill."
Manders is a bloviating buffoon. But for Angle to agree with this incendiary nonsense is crazy – as Washington Post blogger Greg Sargent has argued, imagine what woiuld happen if a Democratic candidate said there are “domestic enemies” in DC?
All Jon Karl did was ask the questions. Angle has met the enemy and it is conservative loons on the AM dial – and herself.
Points are well made and Angle is simply not qualified to be elected to any office. One thing is for sure,Angle is a damn bad liar. And yet here come the nit wits,idiots,stumble bumms,bottom feeders,delusional believers who will sing her praises all the while having no idea how much harm she will do to Nevada and America if elected. To the informed voter Reid is far from the best but he beats the hell out the alternative,Angle.Lets not forget the seniority Nevada loses with Reid out.This is getting to deep for Angle supporters.
gbigs Bush promised Americans the economy was in good shape three weeks before it went to hell.
Bush bailed out the banks and Wall Street and they in turn screwed America.
The health care bill has nothing to do with any of this, the blame lies at the feet of the liar Bush who spent America into oblivion with his make the rich richer while destroying the middle class and his lying wars. How quickly Republicans forget. The smart ones don't forget they just change the story and keep lying at all costs.
Only someone with a pea brain and serious doubts about thier own mentality could make a statement about masochism. I have read gbigs ridiculous posts for weeks now and he has no idea what masochism is.
In the end gbigs can google Neil Bush and Silverado Bank to begin to understand the failure of banks and savings and loans as well as find out the truth about Bush SR.,Reagan, Bush family and who committed the biggest robery in history. In the end gbigs is like most nut job right wingers he likes to make up the story as he goes along. Go take your meds gbigs and turn on Rush so you can become more enlightened, you rummy.
Just say no to Angle. What a nut!
gbigs Guess who ruined the housing market with their refusal to over see Wall Street.During his administration Bush asked Wall Street to find ways to make home ownership affordable for those who could not qualify for a mortgage. This was a guise to turn Wall Stret lose to rape and pillage. Even Greenspan admits under the Bush Admistration, Bush, the U S Treasury and he were warned about derivatives, which brought it all down. Now you go google derivatives and learn something other than what Rush and Fox News puts in your pea brain.
you got that right dipstick. this guy is a loon to match his candidate.
gbigs No one can fix in eightteen months what Bush did in ninety six months. It is real convenient for right wingers to want to shift the blame and find a new target when the facts tell us who is responsible.Why do you think many Bush loyalists are coming forward now and accepting responsibility?
Any idiot knows Obama could get nothing done with the party of no controlling the agenda from the back ground.
Thanks Bush for the tax breaks for the very wealthy while destroying the middle class.
Thanks even more for a lying war that cost America over 4500 soldiers lives, tens of thousands of injured soldiers ,over a trillion dollars in debt and the respect of the world, all to satisfy your ego and clean your daddys image up.
gbig you are insane if you think America will forget or allow Bush to walk away when the fault for all of this belongs to him.
Only to the weak minded is Obama the whipping boy. He could never deliver with the party of no any way. Know the facts.
If you lost your job be mad
If you can't find ajob be mad
If you can't get a student loan be mad
If you want to quit don't.
get mad at the aprty resonsible for putting you there: The Republicans.
Now that McCain has changed his positions maybe he won't lie to you, but he already has lied, so who do you trust? Palin? Now I see. And Harry Reid is your big worry? Of course Ensign can't be found he is another liar. Who really in the Republican Party does not lie? Angle? Nope she got caught too. Think about it.
Any rational, logical and mentality function human being who votes for Sharron Angel on November 2nd needs to seek psychiatric counseling.
Sharron Angle's VOTING RECORD is something right of "Silence Of The Lambs" and her weird "Charlie Mason" EYES with that empty stare gives me the chills.
"The original stimulus... has been a complete failure."
Fox News' Monica Crowley, 9/07/10
VERSUS
"[T]he notion that the stimulus 'failed' is debatable at best. ... [It] has been responsible for more than 2.5 million jobs and has boosted gross domestic product by $400 billion."
-- CBS News, 9/07/10
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-2...
I would love to see Hillary debate either Angle or Palin. Then the GOP and Tea Party people would finally realize that they elect JOKES! to represent them.
Reid helped MGM avoid bankruptcy and layin' off thousands of workers. Angle said it's not her job, what a POS!
I get a kick out of these little denials by Sharron Angle. Plainly, she says whatever she believes will make her audience happy, and is then horrified when someone later points out what she's been talking about. She's like the perpetual wallflower who finally gets to sit with the "cool" group, and embarrasses herself in her zeal to fit in.
The Senate is no place for you, Sharron. Those kooky wingnut talk radio doofuses and their faithful will be your only supporters, and if you ever dare to disappoint them, they'll lash out at you like they do Harry Reid. Is that really how you want to spend the next six years? Or three and a half, if you pull a Sarah Palin?
Former President George W. Bush said after his re-election in 2004 on Wednesday November 3, 2004. "The American PEOPLE have given me a BLANK CHECK and I intend on SPENDING IT"
Please go to www.us.gov.
Please pull up the Presidential archives for November 3, 2004. For all of you delusional Angle-zombies is that Reid and Obama's fault? Did they put those WORDS in Bush's mouth???
Please get some mental help FAST!
A MIRACLE IS COMING IN NOVEMBER! OBAMA/CLINTON 2012!!!!
Well be prepared for another 2008 TURN-OUT. I just love it when people "count their chickens" ahead of time." Remember, never bring a knife to a gun fight.
The GOP & Tea Party combined DO NOT Out-Number the people they have ATTACKED: Hispanics, Blacks, Jews, Asians, Liberals, Gays, Muslims are going to turn out in HISTORICAL NUMBERS ON NOVEMBER 2nd . KARMA IS POWERFUL!!!
If Angle is thee future of Nevada in the Senate then we are all in trouble.
She can not even remember what she said when it is shown to her on Video.
gbigs; Something you seem to forget.
When Mr. Bush took office unemployment was at 4%. When he left office it was at 7.8% yet you think that the current admin should have already fixed it in 18 months. It took 8 years for Mr. Bush to do his job. It takes longer to fix other peoples mistakes then it does to build it yourself.
Math 101
The "GREAT DEPRESSION OF 2007-2010"
1. [Problem #1] Take your home, job, retirement, pension (investments in the Stock Market) and your car.
2. [Problem #2] Give them to the GOP (Since Bush "...had a CHECK from the American People and Intend on SPENDING IT." *(4) x /2
3. The GOP & Bush take a Caterpillar Trailer and DUMP [Problem #1 & #2 into the Grand Canyon. =
4. *(8) x = 2 The GOP & Bush De-regulate EVERYTHING....Medicine for Senior increase, Planes fall from the sky; Recall on Food; Recall on Toys, Wall Street Executives laugh all the way to the BANK.=
5. Bush leaves and says to the American who voted for him "Thanks for joining my Stupid Club."
6. =Mid Term Election 2010. GOP "It's Reid and Obama's FAULT.
I am sorry "Stupid Club" the numbers do not add up.
"Clinton signed the bills, thats about all the credit he gets. Balanced budgets MADE BY THE GOP, and signed by the BJ president."
Got it. Republicans claim all responsibility for the economy under Clinton? That includes the dot com bubble bursting, the recession in 2001, etc.
Also, might want to look into the Republican repeal of the Glass-Stegall Act, which eliminated federal regulations on banks and speculation, and directly lead to the economic collapse in 2007/2008.
Introduced in 2000 in the Senate by Phil Gramm (Republican) and in the House by Jim Leach (Republican), and passed the Senate by a party-line vote... with the Republicans supporting the bill which would later set the stage for the collapse of the banking industry.
"Bubba Clinton missed killing Osama three times, which led DIRECTLY to 911."
Correct, Clinton tried to kill Osama multiple times. He then handed over the reins to Bush, who did NOTHING and was rewarded with the largest terrorist attack on U.S. soil, on Bush's watch. Bush had control for 9 months. How many times did HE try to kill bin Laden? 0.
See gbigs refuses to acknowledge Republican responsibility for anything. He's worse than an apologist. In his world, the Democrats are responsible for ALL bad things and the Republicans are responsible for ALL good things.
To gbigs: Andrew Johnson was serving as Vice President in a Republican administration and he was impeached because Radical Republicans (like the ones we have now) were angry because Johnson did not want to punish the South after the civil war. But of course, now days Lincoln could not run as a Republican because the Tea Baggers would say he was a closet liberal and a Rhino! And if we want to be accurate, there have been three impeachment proceedings in the history of the United States. Let's not forget Richard M. Nixon, a Republican.
Sharron Angle shows her ignorance of the Constitution, the 2nd amendment was to ensure that there would be state militias to defend the country because most politicians of the time did not want a standing federal army.
Sharron Fraud Angle, lying once again and to think she likes to involve Religion in her campaign makes you just want to puke all over the Repukeblicans that voted for this nutcase. Religion, Politics, Lying and a Nutcase, Repukeblicans surely dropped the ball this time.
The whole world is laughing at the Repukeblicans in this country!!!
I haven't even read this story but can say that Sound Bites have been used for years and years to twist what was truly said and/or meant. Most recently this was used in the incident (in the National Media) with the USDA woman (Shirley Sherrod) who was labelled a racist for her sound bite which was used out of context. It's sad that elected officials are constantly voted into office as a result of their negative ads. People either don't have the time or desire to truly learn about the candidates - they vote from what they see and hear from produced commercials. Sad but true.
"I would love to see Hillary debate either Angle or Palin. Then the GOP and Tea Party people would finally realize that they elect JOKES! to represent them."sky888
Hahahaha I want Hillary to debate these two dimwits at the same time so the world can laugh at the Repukeblicans even more.
So... bringing the discussion back to the article and ignoring gbigs until he comments on the article, IF Angle is elected, should she be impeached out of office for lying about things she said while campaigning?
While conservatives on this board love to bash Reid for what he's said and keep claiming Obama has broken campaign promises (in my book, he's still got 2.5 years to deliver), Angle says that she talking differently to different audiences ("You speak the language of the folks you are communicating with"). For most people, that means word choice and about the topics the audience is most concerned. For Angle, the words simply go away when the meeting ends.
Angle needs to go back to Teabaggistan. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...
To dickerjd, Nixon was not impeached. He resigned before he was.
The new and improved Crazy Angle wants to disown the old Crazy Angle but she's not going to get away with it.
New or old, it's still the same bats%$# Crazy Angle.
My heart goes out to all the earnest Republicans who absolutely have nobody to vote for in this Senate race.
8 out of 10 wish there was another option, anyone, chicken-lady included.
Reid saved City Center- just after he and Gore invented the internet-billionaire Kerkorian just wasnt savy enough- I dont know how Reid can say that without laughing- I cant
@gbigs is a big Angle supporter.
His sole reason seems to be that the Nevada economy is in terrible shape, and Harry Reid is Nevada's current Senator, so therefore Angle should be elected to replace Reid.
There are so many obvious holes in that reasoning:
1. The economy was failing in October of 2008, before Obama was even elected. Remember McCain "suspending" his campaign to rush back to Washington to fix the problems?
2. Bush was President for 8 years. For all but the last two years, Republicans were in total control of both houses of Congress. It's going to take at least that amount of time to fix Bush's messes.
3. Even though Democrats have controlled things for the last 3 1/2 years, haven't Republicans unanimously blocked every proposal they have tried to implement? The Stimulus Bill had the tax cuts that Republicans wanted, yet they still voted against it. They really have been the party of No, hoping to keep the economy bad as long as possible in the hope that frustrated people will come rushing back to them.
4. Doesn't Nevada have another Senator that is Republican? Doesn't Nevada have a Republican Governor? Aren't most of Nevada's Representatives Republican? Why does Harry Reid get all the blame?
5. Even if you unfairly believe that Reid shoulders most of the blame for the Nevada economy, what says that Angle will be better? What plans does she have? What are her ideas for the economy? What has she said that doesn't sound like the rantings of a crazy loon?
In fact, I don't think that people like @gbigs really even care about Nevada and the economy. They are simply conditioned by talk radio (funded by wealthy Republican corporate donors that wish to brainwash the simpleminded). This conditioning causes them to simply hate Harry Reid (epithets like "Dingy Harry" reveal their parroting of talk radio catch phrases). They care little about the damage a wacko like Sharron Angle would do to Nevada, because they would do anything to justify their hate for Reid.
gbigs: Who feeds you your cut'n'paste opinions? Go get a REAL JOB, dude!
I can't wait till November so we don't have to hear this nut job anymore.
Dear bg, I didn't say he was impeached, I said there were three impeachment proceedings.
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates...
Anyone but Reid or the Obtuse Angle, Jerry Mahoney or Knucklehead Smiff, both puppets of their respective parties. One will be Senator, none of the above, if elected, will not serve. I desperately want a good choice of candidates, just once in my lifetime I want two folks who tell us the straight story without all the BS so we can make an informed choice and start to get back on the road to sanity. If not, we are destined to become a third world - has been nation - of the very rich and the really poor. FAT CHANCE I know but this time around I just can't decide whether to sit the election out or hold my nose and vote for Pinky, The Obtuse One is out of the question.
gbigs,
You are in serious need of an intervention. Either you've been so brainwashed by fixed news or whatever you're smoking maybe crack-based. Really, do yourself a favor and get at least a hobby - find something to extract you from the keyboard. Strive for at least one coherent, happy day. Good Luck!
..And good work BobbyG
Joseph P,
I loved this part of your post because it's dead on:
"In fact, I don't think that people like @gbigs really even care about Nevada and the economy. They are simply conditioned by talk radio (funded by wealthy Republican corporate donors that wish to brainwash the simpleminded). This conditioning causes them to simply hate Harry Reid (epithets like "Dingy Harry" reveal their parroting of talk radio catch phrases). They care little about the damage a wacko like Sharron Angle would do to Nevada, because they would do anything to justify their hate for Reid."
This seems to be the attitude of many on the right toward our nation, President Obama, and democrats, in general.
I really wish we could talk to them without having to hear something that parrots something that Limbaugh, Beck, Palin, or the non news network entertainment personalities has said/believes. I like your reference to the roles that wealthy corporate republicans are playing in this misinformation campaign. It was recently revealed that the Koch Bros are behind a lot of what goes on in many of the tea party groups, including the web sites, the buses used to transport participants to events, and the dangerous and divisive rhetoric. It was also revealed that the brothers don't want to be in the forefront of these activities because they're afraid that if Americans know what they are doing, they might stop buying their products, causing a decrease in their revenue. Few of the tea partiers know that the Koch Bros inherited their wealth when their father died, or that they have ties to the John Birch Society, an organization that the Republican Party shed it's self of over 40 years ago.
Knowledge is power.
Republicans-
1. Andrew Jackson is ranked as one of the best Presidents. The treatment of Native Americans in the 19th century was not good regardless of Democrat or Republican administration.
2. Doesn't matter how he was elected, Lincoln was a Republican. In fact, I have heard the GOP called "the party of Lincoln".
3. The party of wars? McKinley/T. Roosevelt, Eisenhower (1st troops to Viet Nam), and let's not forget the Bushes and I believe G.W. Bush first put troops in Afghanistan.
4. The Depression started under Hoover, Carter inherited a recession started under Ford, and we all know where the current recession started, the Bush Administration.
5. Republicans are opposed to government intervention except in a woman's private reproductive choices.
6. Corruption? Abramoff, Duke Cunningham, Scooter Libby, Rove, Dusty Foggo.
7. The party of Jim Crow? In the past, the Democrat party was a primarily a southern party, go figure.
8. Wow, supporting Unions and people being paid a living wage, what a shame.
9. Hypocrisy? Republicans are Pro-life unless it is a prisoner.
@dickerjd: "Dear bg, I didn't say he was impeached, I said there were three impeachment proceedings." So you did. I thought you said 3 impeachments.
WHY are we arguing about Andrew Jackson? Seriously... The guy was president what 140 some odd years ago??
Insangle can run from herself but she can't hide.
_________
"In an interview with ABC's Jon Karl GOP nominee Angle denied saying that Democratic policies violate the First Commandment or that she said people might seek 2nd Amendment remedies because of distress in the populace -- two things she clearly has said."
_________
Is she too loony to realize her statements are public record? Shouldn't she be fitted for a nice, comfortable straight jacket?
Don't pick on gbigs guys. He gets PAID to copy and paste those rantings on here, every day. Unfortunately for him, he has to tow the company line, no matter how silly it sounds. Gbigs is not allowed to have his own opinion.
I was reading the comments and something caught my eye. First I saw this comment:
"Bush is retired. Pay attention." from gbigs
then a few comments later I find this:
"We have been over this. Fannie Mae was created, imbued with Subprime by Clinton, and protected by Dodd."
and this:
"Clinton was a disaster. Still is." also from gbigs
So why exactly is Bush "retired" and we can't blame him for at least part of the mess this country is in but Clinton is somehow still to blame?
Honestly, you can't have it both ways. If you want to bad mouth Clinton, someone who actually left us with a surplus, then we get to point at Bush, the President who took that surplus and flushed it.
Much like their candidate for US Senate in Nevada, the paid posters also like to revise history!
geebags won't ever stay on topic, he will say anything to deflect it off Mrs. Angle.
Inasmuch as the Republican Party has had so many mutations and permutations since their organization in 1854, their name should be changed to something that truly reflects who they are and what they stand for: the Obfuscation Party.
Oops -
the GRAND Obfuscation Party.
copyrighted.
It happens every day on the Sun's political blogs. Gbigs comes on ranting about this and that, usually not making much sense. Always spouting half truths and outright lies. Then, the other posters start to ask him questions he can't answer, or make statements that he can't debate. Right about the time that the questioning starts, gbigs magically disappears. Look at this blog as an example. People started questioning his lines of crap, and he has since disappeared. It happens here daily! Like I said before, he is not allowed to have his own opinion. Keeping towing the line bigs!
Lady gbagsagogo is an inept social outcast who finds personal validation wherever possible. That's why she spends 24/7 here, mindlessly regurgitating the latest teabagger baloney, as if it someone really cares. Sad.
Towards the end of 2007 many economists agree we were starting into a recession. Aug.10th 2007 Pres. Bush was quoted as saying: "The American economy is the envy of the world, and we need to keep it that way," Bush said, conceding that "I'm not an economist'' but maintaining that he sees strong basic indicators in the state of the economy. "The fundamentals of our economy are strong..."
At the time I remember telling people that we were in a recession and all the conservatives told me I was wrong. I saved money, they bought big cars, wide screen TVs and even bigger houses, because things were going up. Pres. Bush said so.
And in the words of Dr Phil... "And how's that workin' out for ya'?"
Angle should not back down from those statements. We do have enemies in the Senate and Congress. Left wing Socialist that are trying to change our country for the worse. You know, this totally left wing newspaper is so slanted on their reporting that they have loss all credibility. Each and every column is so filled with bias that its a wonder how they survive. Do the editors have no shame? You distort comments, or add little bits and pieces of untruth to everything Angle says. When anybody is asked a series of questions, including Reid you are bound to make errors or mistakes. Having the same hacks at the Sun pounce on every word that Angle says should be embarrassing. I guess there is know pride at the paper anymore. Why not write 50 or so articles about all of Reids mis-quotes, or gaffes. Try to be fair once in awhile. You might sell more papers.
"He created 22 million jobs, and had the longest post WWII prosperity in history.
How did he do it?
TAX CUTS."
You mean the House of Representatives, under full DEMOCRATIC CONTROL under Reagan, cut taxes.
Just a few hours ago, you said the President does nothing... they just "sign the bills."
Now you want to give the President all the credit?
Stop being dishonest, gbigs. The President doesn't set the tax rate.
"Angle should not back down from those statements. We do have enemies in the Senate and Congress. Left wing Socialist that are trying to change our country for the worse. "
Actually, Sharron directly refers to the "bailouts" as evidence of "domestic enemies." The bailouts that President George W. Bush demanded... the bailouts that a large percentage of House Republicans voted to approve...
Domestic Enemies: Republicans.
The choice is clear! Vote Reagan!
Corruption-how about Iran Contra?
gbigs, wasn't it the The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLB), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 and repealing of the Glass-Steagall Act that was the direct cause of the financial meltdown? Every un-biased economist agrees with that assertion.
Let's look back... Sen. Carter Glass (D--Va.) and Rep. Henry B. Steagall (D--Ala) introduced banking reforms in 1933 which were designed to control speculation by banks. Ok.
And... Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Tx), Rep. Jim Leach (R-Iowa), and Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R-Va) effectively removed the separation that previously existed between Wall Street investment banks and depository banks which caused the collapse of the sub-prime mortgage market that led to the Financial crisis of 2007--2010.
And it's no wonder Ms. Angle wants to make it seem like she never said the things she said. With a track record like hers I'm sure she doesn't want to have to answer for what she says and does.
@gbigs
You are correct that Reagan enacted massive tax cuts in '81. What you don't state is that those cuts enjoyed bi-partisan support in both houses of Congress. So, it's not as if Reagan came up with this great idea all by himself, and then enacted it all by himself. Both parties worked TOGETHER to fix the economy. Remember when BOTH parties had solutions to the country's problems?
You should take a minute and google TEFRA. TEFRA was one of the largest tax increase in US history, passed by guess who, Reagan in 1982. You see, once the admin starting cutting taxes, they had to find revenue from somewhere to continue to pay for their spending spree, thus TEFRA was born.
Once you're done learning about TEFRA, I'd like you to look up the unemployment rate for Reagan's first two years. You'll see that it was hovering right around 9.6%. Sound familiar? According to you the jobless should all be blaming our disaster of a President. Was the same true for the jobless in the early eighties? Was Reagan a failed President, as you claim Obama is?
I look forward to your response to this post. But, I'm sure that you won't respond at all, as my posts contain facts, and you are unable to argue with the facts!
Insangle will never win. She's said too extreme.
* 2nd Amendment Remedies.
* No abortions, even in the event of rape or incest.
* "Hey America! Bring all your nasty a** nuke waste to Nevada 'cause this is just a stinkin' desert anyway, right?"
* "Jesus, my BFF, told me to run. He said I'm the chosen one!"
Another week, another enlightening article by Jon Ralston about his man crush Harry Reid. How come you never have any real substance on what Reid has done Jon? I mean, he's had 24 years in total and 4 as the leader of the Senate; I'd expect at least a couple articles pointing out how well Reid has been, especially when the D's had super-majorities in both congress and the white house. Sadly we just keep getting jab after jab of reaching insults for Angle. It's not like you ever have anything of real substance to complain about with her, I would expect a juicy scandal, arrest or some risque photos. This is simply boring and speaks to your desperation. Just think, if Reid loses you two can spend some more time together!
Of course Sharon Angle would support Yucca Mountain, she lives up north. Relocate the dump to Washoe county and see if she still supports it.
Where are all the Bush GOP tax cut creating jobs? The tax cuts have been in place about 9 years and are in place now. Where are the jobs? Oh the wealthy need more tax cuts. The jobs will come back when the middle class start spending money. The wealthy who out source your jobs to other countries may invest their tax cuts in China or foreign business.
middletoright:
"Another week, another enlightening article by Jon Ralston about his man crush Harry Reid."
Actually, this article has nothing to do with Harry Reid. If you read it you will note that's it's all about Angle's double talk, and denial of statements that she's made ON TAPE!
Why don't people like you think this is news worthy? We have a candidate for US Senate who gained her nomination by saying one thing, and has since spent several months and lots of money trying to convince us all she never said those things. Ridiculous!
The bad news for her is that her crazy ramblings are all on tape, thanks to her love of conservative talk radio interviews. Her double talk should be reported in the media. If Harry Reid did this, it would be all over TV and print outlets. Why should we treat Angle any differently?
If you want Angle puff pieces, read the RJ, or watch Fox News. Oh, that's right, they're abandoning the Angle camp as well.
All of the Reid attacks and Ralston gay innuendo in the world is not going to change the fact that this lady has some very different views from most of us. Views that she likes to express on the radio for everyone to hear. If you're middle to right, then Angle is right of right.
She won't win, and you know it.
If Rasmussen says they are neck and neck it means that Reid is up 3.5%. Angle will now fade to oblivion to be found drooling on herself in a mental hospital in a few years...with her delusional teabagger supporters still thinking she is the Second Coming!
I personnally believe gbigs wants to stir trouble like the tea partiers do. As for Angle, she's lying and anyone who has followed the political debates and news, knows this. gbigs knows this too, but; like Fox News where Rupurt Murdock wants to run for dictator of America, he gives half trues and bends the facts. The commentators are instilling fear in the electorate with the control of the rich. With Angle, she believes what she says. This is scary. Karl Rove, who is the spin doctor of her campaign now, is doing his best to hide this. And the ignorant electorate of the tea party movement in Nevada believes the lies. They are in denial of the truth and afraid of the change that must come to America to grow into a world power and be trusted again. We must change and not go back to Bush. gbigs does wants the good ole' days.
We all know the song..."She got Betty Davis eyes." Well it should say..."She got Charlie Mason's EYES." - What is up with Angle's Eyes!
If our "EYES" are the window to the soul, then Sharron Angle is the picture of a perfect mental patient if I ever saw one.
She is too weird!
Tico_Suave, Reid and Angle are attached at the hip in case you weren't paying attention. Reid has made many remarks too about Obama, tourists, citizens of Nevada, and so forth, if it were really such a big deal that someone says we need to stand up for ourselves and uses colorful language then pretty much everyone would be crazy. Angle might be more morally conservative than I would like, but she's not a judge. She is right where I want her with fiscal conservatism. In case you didn't know congress controls fiscal policy and with Reid we've seen where that's taken us the past 4 years. I don't down-trod on liberals for their views, but at least have a point. I mean Rangle and Ensign have actual scandals, have been arrested, charged, or have pictures of a scandal; with Angle we are debating what she means when she says people need to rise up. If that's your complaint then your complaint is pretty lame. At least with Reid we have the Recovery Act, health care, cap and trade, back room deals, flip flopping, wall street/bank bailout, government buying private companies, financial reform without Freddy And Fannie, unemployment going from 4.3% to 10.1% and sitting at 9.6% now, summer of recovery, etc... Funny that liberals don't want to talk about these.
Gbig is doing the dirty work for the Koch brothers, just like they want.
@ gbigs,
Iran-Contra,savings and loan crisis,union buster, war on drugs, Hussein regime supporter, Afghanistan defector and amnesty to $3+million illegals President Reagan left a huge budget hole for liar G.H.W. Bush, who could not keep his campaign promise: "Read my lips: no new taxes".
Bush inherited from Reagan a $220 Billion deficit, a recession and the Golf War. Bush pardoned all the Iran-Contra pawns, some of them later served at the Bush junior admin. Bush senior brought upon us his New World Order: NAFTA, Super WalMart and off-shore accounts for the super rich. Google New World Order!
Over a quarter century the McCarthystic, jingoistic neocons have worked hard to destroy YOU and YOUR COUNTRY by serving their continuous lies and poisonous cool aid.
How can someone who claims Angle is the future of Nevada accuse Democrats of being anti-intellectual?
I'm am always amazed we don't have better people in a country this size to put into political office (e.g. Nixon, Carter, Bush I, Bush II, Obama - and I voted for all of them...OMG). I guess we have no choice but to vote for Harry. Putting her in office would be worse than re-electing him. So, let's swallow the pill and vote against her. In my almost 50 years of voting I, again, have to vote AGAINST someone instead of voting FOR someone. It's a real shame and it's why we are in the trouble we are in. I voted against McCain so I am (one multi-millionth) to blame for the current state of affairs in Washington. Mr. Obama has greatly disappointed me. He will not get my vote again. I wonder if the guy I saw at The Mirage 2 years ago wearing the t-shirt saying "THE PRESIDENT IS BLACK" is still wearing it?
middletonight: Angle doesn't judge? Let's start with people on unemployment are "spoiled" that's not judgement? And if she doesn't get her way and Senator Reid wins, "we need 'SECOND REMEDY SOLUTIONS'" That's not judgement? Also the football team's uniforms are EVIL? That's not judgement? And wants to cut jobs in gov't when her husband collected a paycheck for years in gov't and she got the money and benefits from it like now with a pension. That's not hipocrasy judgement? Need I go on? This is the one problem I see in this wingnut movement. They believe they are morally right all in the name of the Constitution and Jesus. Next: Unemployment, I'll debate it.
JosephP writes:
"What plans does she have? What are her ideas for the economy? What has she said that doesn't sound like the rantings of a crazy loon?"
I totally agree. Even though Angle's "handlers" are trying to get her to pretend that she never said half of the stuff she has actually said, it won't do her any good.
Angle simply will not be able to hide her extremist views in time for the election:
Angle believes in:
1) Abolishing the U.S. Department of Education, upon the presumption that the government should not be involved in the education of children, only the private sector. The problem with that? The top 20 education systems in the world are run by their governments (such as Canada).
2) Angle believes that unemployment insurance "benefits no one." She should tell that to the ten million Americans who lost their jobs during the recent recession.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/03...
3) Angle wants to privatize Social Security. All of those retirees who just lost their nest eggs in the recent market crash should--well, forget about it, and invest again. Better luck next time. After all, the free market --and all of the risks associated with it--is the best of all possible worlds.
4) Angle wants to abolish Medicare. Again, those retirees need to get back out there and WORK! Until they drop dead! Lazy old folks! (Angle, by the way, is going after a Senate job that pays $174,000 per year and that provides generous health and retirement benefits. She better hope that she gets it too--as she is 61 years old and just four years short of retirement age!)
5) Angle does not believe in global warming or that man is having a negative effect on the environment or on its wildlife. She thinks that Las Vegas air quality is A-OK. She believes the Gulf Oil spill will help our endangered coral reefs and turtles and that they have black beaches, anyway, in Hawaii (no matter that they are from black volcanic sand). Angle, like Palin, firmly believes that we must "drill, baby, drill" along every inch of our coastline that BP and other corporations can get their hands on.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...
6) Angle loves the idea of storing the nation's nuclear waste just outside of Las Vegas. She promises that she and her descendents will zealously guard it for the next 10,000 years.
7) Not surprisingly, Angle has zero interest in alternative "clean" energy.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul...
8) Angle would like the United States to withdraw from the United Nations. One of the reasons for this is because, in her opinion, the United Nations serves as an "umpire on fraudulent science such as global warming."
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/...
http://www.globalchange.gov/publications...
9) Angle, by the way, has never studied science. She has a bachelor of arts in fine arts and worked as a substitute teacher for 25 years. She is a Baptist and ran a small Christian school, which means she probably does not believe in evolution either. In fact, Angle believes that because God had a "plan" for each one of us, that a girl who has been raped by her father should not be allowed to have an abortion.
http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/201...
10) Angle is supported by the Tea Party, which is not surprising. She also is not beyond hiding her true beliefs, when politically expedient. Hence, the sudden changes in her website:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/01...
Bottom line: if you don't believe in science, can't stand evolution, think the elderly should not retire, believe that people how lose their jobs in a massive recession should not have unemployment, and want to live in 1929 America--then Sharron Angle is definitely your gal....
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@middletoright
"At least with Reid we have the Recovery Act, health care, cap and trade, back room deals, flip flopping, wall street/bank bailout, government buying private companies, financial reform without Freddy And Fannie, unemployment going from 4.3% to 10.1% and sitting at 9.6% now, summer of recovery, etc... Funny that liberals don't want to talk about these."
Okay, let's talk about them:
1. Recovery and Reinvestment Act - Reinvesting in The United States' infrastructure, while creating over 2,000,000 jobs. There is a list of HUNDREDS of economists who all agree that we would be much worse off without this legislation.
2. Health Care - Most provisions don't take effect until 2014. How do you know this is bad legislation?
3. Cap and Trade - Doesn't exist in America.
4. Back Room Deals - Like what? Name your back room deals, then name one administration that has been 100% above board in their dealings.
5. Flip Flopping - Again, what does this mean?
6. Wall Street/Bank Bailout - Also known as TARP, was enacted by Bush along with his own economic stimulus in 2008, prior to the Obama admin. In fact, the Obama admin enacted a Wall Street reform bill this year.
7. Government Buying Companies - Kind of a misnomer. The government made repayable loans, to the auto industry, that are collateralized with equity stocks in those companies.
8. Financial Reform - You don't like finance reform? Fannie and Freddie are not lenders, they buy loans from lenders. The lending industry has been heavily reformed, thus curtailing the bad loans from being made in the first place.
9. Unemployment - Was at 7.7% when Obama took office, not 4.3%. It did peak at around 10%, but has been in decline since last year!
Again, if you wanted to get rid of Reid, then people like yourself should have made sure that someone like Angle didn't win the primary! She won't win and you know it, so you attack attack attack, and hope people will forget how silly your candidate is.
Now, let's talk about Angle's record:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/-41-to-angle--1...
The privite jobs in this country are slowly going up for the past 8 months. The reason for the slump is the census jobs have ended. The stimulus is working. Ask Michagan and other auto plants and connected businesses. The federal gov't did not cause this mess. THE BANKS DID! With the subprime loans of inflated numbers, were sold to us. Then the banks hit the bad paper in good paper and sold it overseas. When the bubble burst, overseas lost all and AIG and others had to pick up some of the tab. So, BUSH bailed them out with no payback. Debt rose along with 2wars and rich tax credits not paid for. WE are paying for that. When Bush left office, America was loosing over 700,000 jobs per month. And during that time, many dropped out of the system. So unemployment did not really show the true figures at that time. When a person drops out, he/she is not counted in the unemployment records. I'll be back.
middletoright: "Funny that liberals don't want to talk about these."
Once again, you are wrong. "Liberals" have been talking about "these", and backing up the talk with facts. You and geebags ignore and deny the facts, make things up as you go along, and attack anybody who doesn't subscribe to your "fiscal conservatism", whatever that means. Angle is not a "true conservative", she is a right-wing extremist. She reveals herself by what she says, and her record here in Nevada speaks for itself. Angle shares the blame, along with other State and local officials, for the bleak economy here. She has been part of the problem, not the solution.
Everyone should read this article on Angle's career in the state legislature, very interesting:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/-41-to-angle--1...
Does this really sound like someone we want to send to Washington, and represent Nevada?
Now what happened to Nevada is this this economy was built on construction and hospitality jobs. These jobs always need a good growth economy because they are luxury jobs. And they are low educated jobs. When the subprimes hit, construction jobs went. And other related jobs went too. Along with luxury jobs like restaurants. Unemployment here went up. Then as unemployment went up in the nation and the world because they had no money to spend, people did not come to Las Vegas and more layoffs accured. We stay this way because people are not coming to Vegas. As the recovery is happening in the country, more people are looking for work and the unemployment numbers went up. But. for the past 8 months more privite businesses are hireing. Not in Nevada, Why? because we are luxury jobs. When other people have money, then they come to Vegas. I'll be back
Nevada is not an educated state. Look at our schools. Nevada has been on the bottom of all stats for years. Why? Because no one thought that it would ever get this bad and that the casino, contruction, and hospitality jobs would always be there. Now we know better(I hope). This mess of our schools belongs in part to Sharron Angle. She has been in the state legislator for years and was on school boards. While locking up black colored uniforms because the color is EVIL and telling teen pregnet girls to make LEMONADE, schools just taught enough to get the low skilled, low educated jobs and our education went down the tubes. The state needs to take on its responsiblity for this mess. When the tech jobs for auto and others were handed out, we could not have them because Nevada does not have the skilled labor. Ask any high end business here. They hire mostly outside this state.
Senator Reid is doing his best to get jobs here and we also need to improve our education system. If we do not, we will not be prepared for the future and we will go through this hell again. He just had a green conference on doing his best to find ways to get green jobs here. He saved 22,000 jobs at City Center. He got a VA Hospital being built here. He got a wind plant here. He got road contruction jobs here and hopefully more on the way. What is Sharron Angles decision on this issue? "It's NOT my job to get jobs for Nevada" I have a solution. If the big casino boardmembers would build a tech school and place low educated workers in that school at little or no cost, they could get tax credits and help us. Teach us the tech language from the beginning and even a computer from the beginning. Also computer hardware and software. For higher end, computer security and cyber work. It would rival MIT. As for Angle, she must loose or we will never get out of this mess.
Why are we getting so many from the religious right trying to rule our lives? Nevada is still regarded as "the wild west" and anything goes, the good old boys (they're still here...) and all the rest, remember "Sin City"? Nevada was never known as a place where the intellectuals came nor was UNLV ever considered a good school (let's not even talk about all the public schools that we all knew were bad)- people who lived or moved here could look forward to casino or construction jobs (and you don't need a degree for those, right?), doctors with terrible records came here, people who went bust came here to start over or get divorced, addicts of all types and most fugitives found their way here too. Now everyone has forgotten that there's a separation of Church and State and the religious right is trying to force us to live "their way" or else. I'm sorry but I don't need them to tell me how to live nor do I appreciate it. I don't go to school to pray nor will it make me smarter, I also don't need to pray to work well. IF I choose to attend Church then I will do so, but if I don't, it's nobody's business nor does it qualify more for any job. Sharon Angle is like this and has proven herself to be a bad legislator, so her leanings didn't help her either. She needs to retire and let someone who will work for the majority of us do their work. Oh and by the way, she lies real well (isn't that against the Bible?)
Another waste of time hit job from Ralston as usual. The boy has nothing better to do with his time.
Jon, You want some great quotes .... Here yah go. From the idiot moron himself .. Harry Mangle
http://vimeo.com/14425309
Sharron, did God ever give you a word of knowledge about lying? Surely he said something about it if he called you.
bookofdoubt: again no facts to back up your statement. You are not showing any smarts at all. I know you are not this ignorant are you? If Jon Ralson is a waste of time, then who do you recommend? Who should we listen to that you are listening to? And why?
@Quo - I consider Jon Ralston a comedy act.
Now - back to the real issue at hand with the facts.
Here is Harry Reid's next commercial.
Hi, I am HARRY REID and I no longer have anything to offer the state of Nevada except $25 Million of character assassination attack ads against my opponent and I approve this message. I am a TOTAL INCOMPETENT THAT SHOULD BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY !!! Check out my miserable record since I took complete control of the Senate of United States in the fall elections of 2006.
Unemployment Rate
When We Democrats took over the whole Congress in January 2007 = 4.6%
When We Democrats still controlled Congress by a huge majority August 2010 = 9.8% and RISING !!!
Nevada Unemployment rate today when we Democrats still controlled Congress by a huge majority 14.8% and RISING !!
Federal Annual Deficit
When We Democrats took over the whole Congress in January 2007 = Deficit for FY 2006 was $247 Billion
When We Democrats still controlled Congress by a huge majority July 2010 = Projected $1.3 Trillion for FY ending Sept 30, 2010
Federal Debt
When We Democrats took over the whole Congress in January 2007 = $8,7 Trillion
When We Democrats still controlled Congress by a huge majority July 2010 = $13.2 Trillion
I am the incompetent Harry Reid and I approve this message. Vote for Sharron Angle before I, Harry REID, completely destroy this country.
to Quoyn520:
You hit the nail on the head. And here's some more reasons why Nevada's unemployment and foreclosure rates are higher than the rest of the nation's: people laid off by Gov. Gibbons, low wages and lack of affordable housing.
Investment in education benefits everyone. Mrs. Angle doesn't get it.
@BlueJeans -- OF course -- Blame it on someone else. Don't take responsibility for your own actions.
You people ever consider that business has completely shut down in this nation because the moron Harry Reid shoved that health care legislation down everyone's throat ?
Be Serious for a change and keep the blame on Obama/Reid/Pelosi where it belongs.
@Bluejeans -"Investment in education benefits everyone."
How is this statement even remotely close to the truth when Nevada only had a 47% graduation rate ?
Do you even think about what you are saying.
Eliminate the Federal Dept. of Education. It is time to start cutting government. Revise the broken education system. DO NOT ASK ME FOR ANY MORE TAXES TO PAY FOR A FAILED EDUCATION SYSTEM.
You don't need no edgeucation ann Soceal Sequrity.
Sharron will lead you to Paradise and these things will not be needed.
Angle will be handled by big-oil fatcats like the Koch brothers if she somehow gets elected.
Since she has a deficient memory, and probably can't remember what she eats for breakfast, she'll be perfect in the treacherous hands of the rebublicant/bagger elite that is trying to "take our country back."
Nation, don't be deceived by the likes of gogobigsie and their ilk! They want your vote solely so they can line their pockets with your hard-earned dollars.
Reid is Nevada's best choice!
The republican liars, thieves, crooks and anti-
union fools want to get back into power so they
can continue breaking the middle class in this
country.
Sharron Angle is the worst of the worst.
SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY AND OUR COUNTRY,
VOTE HARRY REID.
Teamster: Sharron Angle could not get rid of Social Security if she wanted to, that would take an act of congress; you can't lure voters with that same old crap. Everything now is made either in Mexico or China, the Unions have turned just as corrupt as Politicians like Senator Reid, I am sick of his lies and his stories about baseball and bull crap. Angle will win come November. You talk about save our country; have you looked at Senister Reid's voting record on Illegal Immigration lately? didn't think so. Here it is
Can you believe how Senator Reid Voted on Illegal Immigration: does this sound like a Man who cares about his country?
Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)
Voted NO on protecting middle-income taxpayers from a national energy tax. (Apr 2009)
Voted YES on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guest worker program. (May 2007)
Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities". (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (Jun 2008)
Voted NO on requiring full Senate debate and vote on cap-and-trade. (Apr 2009)
Voted YES on $2 billion more for Cash for Clunkers program. (Aug 2009)
Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include Eastern Europe. (May 2002)
Voted YES on Congressional pay raise. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections. (Jul 2007)
Voted YES on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress. (Mar 2006)
Voted NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity. (Mar 2006)
Voted NO on banning more types of Congressional gifts. (Jul 1995)
Reject photo ID requirements for voting. (Sep 2005)
Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
Voted YES on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on allowing tribal Indians to opt out of federal healthcare. (Feb 2008)
Voted YES on blocking medical savings accounts. (Apr 1996)
Voted YES on comprehensive immigration reform. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)
Voted YES on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998)
Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)
Rated 0% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006)
pmont: I'm adding you to gogobigsie. You're all the same. Stealing from the worker, that's your gig. Paying $8/hr with no benies, for work that should pay $40/hr with benies.
Thanks to Reagan and the Bushes, all of our jobs went to China, RED China. You and your ilk don't care about AMERICA! You just want a big number in a numbered account in the Caymans.
Take your big-oil BS somewhere else!
pmontg53.......
Sharron Angle is worst candidate I've ever
seen run for public office, in my entire life.
No doubt about it.
You republicans back idiots, that's why you
keep losing.
Vote Harry Reid in November! Sharron Angle is dangerous to working class America!
bookofdoubt: where do you want to see cuts to promote better education? And how does Nevada make that education better with the new cuts you purpose? pmontg53: Your statements are good. Of course you are talking about a 30year history and you only point out what you consider bad. Some of the votes that you say are bad, I consider good. One of them is saying yes on the cash for clunkers. That program did give immediate prosperity and it helped get the bad poluted cars off the roads, As for NATO yes, I agree also. Let Europe help in their own defense and not leave it all to us. And the yes votes on comprehensive immigration reform. Many illegals have been here for years and made a good honest life here and they should have the right to belong. It is America's fault for allowing them in and working jobs a low wages that no one else wants to work. Criminals are to be shipped back. Remember, John McCain made this bill. Not all people believe Senator Reid is wrong.
Sharron Angle changes her tune more times than a nervous, unprepared audition candidate for "America Has Talent". Her 'flip-flop' banter saying she didn't mean this or than, or she was misinterpreted, misquoted or never said it is getting old. It is beginning to reveal the inner workings of her mind and that of her promoters. I am beginning to believe she is no more mentally stable than Harry Reid who seems to really be suffering from the early symptoms of either dementia or Alzheimers. Both are not worthy of holding the office of U.S. Senator from Nevada. But, then again neither is John Ensign so where does that really leave us in Washington, D.C.? All three are sham politicians and expert con artists like the 'Flim Flam Man'.
Sharron Angle will win in November. All you hate filled leftys ranting all your hate will have to crawl back in your holes until the 2012 elections. Its like watching Becks Honor Rally and Sharptons Hate Rally. Which one would you attend. Lets see....500 people full of Hate or 300,000 people praising God. Who are the losers, the left or the right. Did you see how much trash that was left on the ground at Becks ralley, NONE.
Much as I detest entering a forum as filled with hate as this one, I feel that fighting hate is the cause of the day.
Forget for a moment Reid vs. Angle. Take a minute and read your own comments. Whatever political persuasion you may bring fails if you serve it to me with a side dish of poison.
Call me inbred if you wish. Some of my ancestors probably were, but thank God the Romans and the Celts adopted Christianity. And thank God that Martin Luther saved Christianity from its incestuous Roman adolescence. And thank God that Americans broke from the King men and their King's Church and produced a free state of God minded but rational citizen soldiers.
Some of whom through no fault of their own were inbred.
And you may be fortunate enough that your bloodline is as pure as the driven snow, yet you bring to this forum an icy and unwelcome hate.
Give me an army of mongrel "inbred" who love freedom any day. So what if a goodhearted schoolteacher who keeps her God close wins because we, the 'inbred', see her heart in spite of the spin Jon uses on her words. In our "inbred" opinion she will do better than all you purebloods and your professors and lawyers usurping democracy to keep the 'wealthy' and the "inbred" in their place.
I think the article and reality are pretty clear here. Sharon Angle has said on tape that "yes" there are enemies in Congress and that people may use the right to bear arms as a solution to political differences including in opposition to Harry Reid. That's not spin, even if she was only directing her comments to her hardcore supporters. She then LIED about having said that and claimed it was out of context when addressing everyone else.
Unfortunately no one who would vote for her cares. So the argument is relatively moot in terms of influencing the election.
johnniek: this is not about hate. I suggest you look in the mirror. When someone points the index finger and accuses, that person has 3 fingers pointing back and the thumb grasping it. I do have views that are left of yours but maybe I have some I agree with. As for that Beck rally, the stats place it at 85,000 people not 300,000. Fox lies is bolstering again. As for Rev. Sharpton, he has a point. This day is about Dr. King and what he stood for. Not, Beck. If Beck wants a day to stand for his believes, he should choose a separate day that does not interfere with other historical standings. Remember, Beck is the one who says our President Obama is a racist. And again Beck is pointing the index finger.
The Democrats voted for Angle to get a weak/out-of-touch opponent to run against Harry Reid - the only strategy they had to ensure Reid keeps his office.
@rwith
Democrats can't vote in the Republican Primary. Republicans have no one but themselves to thank for the Angle blunder.
quoyn520
MLK has a holiday, we all celebrate it. Aug 28th isn't it. By all accounts, Becks ralley had at lease 300,000 people. Fox News has never given their count, NEVER. Beck never had a day for his believers, they came to honor our soldiers. It was a benefit for kids who have had a parent killed in battle. It was also held to bring all people together, not HATE whitey or HATE blacky. People of all color came and spoke. Nobody with any honesty has said there were 85,000. That would make the million man march, closer to around 250,000. Look at the photos of both. I'm going to keep pointing the finger at all you hate mongers, you will never speak falsehood again in America and get away with it. Its because of Fox News and radio that we other Americans get the whole truth. Left wing media, can not lie anymore and just get away with it. Sorry
Mr. Ralston,
We have all had this type of conversation:
[You]:
-So you say, "(aaaaaaabbb)".
[Me]:
NO. I said, "(aaaaaaaa,bbb)".
-Whatever. Saying, "(aaaaaaabbb)" means xxxxxxx.
No. Zzzzzzzz, not xxxxxxxx, is what I meant when I said, "(aaaaaaaa,bbb)", and again, I did not say, "(aaaaaaabbb)".
-Well, 'xxxxxxx' is what I get out of it when you say, "(aaaaaaaaabbb)".
But that's not what I said. And I can't help what you choose to think I mean. You're not listening. So then how can you hope to interpret anything I mean if you refuse to hear correctly what I said?
-I resent that, you're implying that I'm hearing impaired and cognitively challenged. How dare you discriminate against the handicapped in such a manner. When did you stop being a racist, anyway?
If I wanted to say you were closed minded and ignorant of common cultural standards I would have said so. What I said was, "That's not what I said." Once establishing that you heard correctly what I said we could then move on to what I meant when I said it.
But I'm afraid we're never going to even get that far.
So, Mr. Ralston, having related this "Who's on First?" comedy/tragedy routine to you, I would now like to speak seriously.
Your trade is the language media, the spoken and written word. Your time and devotion in the trade is traceable, what you've said and presumably what you've meant can all be subjected to the treatment with which you've subjected Sharron Angle. Is this how you want to be remembered? As the presumptive and prejudiced judge and jury of what she REALLY said and what she MOST CERTAINLY meant by it?
Your cohort, Ms. Damon earned a particular distinction in this regard:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinio......
Proud of that newsmaker, Mr. Ralston? Care to debate the charges?
Here's that link:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinio...
As a reader of many forums, I have adopted a 'trust but verify' position on opinion editorials.
Your opinion is charging a Tea Party/Republican candidate with some extraordinary insanities. Would you be kind enough to convict with extraordinary proof? Not just 'he said/she said' that you spin in your tower of power to convict with 'she said but she really meant' yellow journalism.
Did Sharron promote armed insurrection or didn't she? At what rally? Attended by what undercover ATF or Secret Service because of her many statements on what occasions?
Names, dates, and places please.
You tarnish your trumpet and risk losing all credibility.
Angle was once registered as a member of that freaky American Independent Party...if you weren't already afraid of Angle, go read the platform of the American Independent Party......freeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaky!!!!!
bookofdoubt:
"@BlueJeans -- OF course -- Blame it on someone else. Don't take responsibility for your own actions.
"You people ever consider that business has completely shut down in this nation because the moron Harry Reid shoved that health care legislation down everyone's throat ?
"Be Serious for a change and keep the blame on Obama/Reid/Pelosi where it belongs.
How is this statement even remotely close to the truth when Nevada only had a 47% graduation rate ?
"Do you even think about what you are saying.
"Eliminate the Federal Dept. of Education. It is time to start cutting government. Revise the broken education system. DO NOT ASK ME FOR ANY MORE TAXES TO PAY FOR A FAILED EDUCATION SYSTEM."
"Blame it on someone else. Don't take responsibility for your own actions."
---That is an absurd statement from a Sharron Angle supporter, who heaps blame on Sen. Reid for everything.
"DO NOT ASK ME FOR ANY MORE TAXES TO PAY FOR A FAILED EDUCATION SYSTEM."
---Nobody's asking. Nor do they ask me before they use my tax dollars to pay for unconstitutional religious school vouchers and "faith-based initiatives"; war, contractors like Haliburton and Blackwater, oil industry subsidies, pharmaceutical and insurance industry subsidies, etc., etc.
"Investment in education benefits everyone". That's what I said, and I'm sticking to it.
Senator Bird, Was once a member of the KKK
anglehead="who me"
Glad Angle's hubbie gets a government check, she'll need it after she loses.
It is good to see that there are some rational people in Las Vegas. Some very thoughtful comments on here, and then of course the hate mongers repeating "mantras" they have heard from Rush, Beck, or Fox.
As far as Angle, what did Abe Lincoln say about fooling some of the people some of the time?
Of course, Lincoln would be vilified by the Teabaggers for his building of land grant colleges, for subsidizing the transcontinental railroad, and other Big Government initiatives.
Only lunatics back a lunatic.
republican-teabagger ignorance is astounding.
Lucky for us these nuts are the minority.
hey woodysez1, think the teabuggers would have fought to free slaves. they want to take us back to the 60's, 1860's.
I plead with all sane people to get out and vote, and call your family and friends -- get out the vote. Low turnout is good for Angle.
Our choice: Tweedeldum (Reid) and Tweedeldumber.
Reid is not my favorite Senator by a lot shot, but the alternative would be disaster for Nevada and the nation.
please someone help gbigs! When Sharon loses and is found weeping somewhere, lying in a fetal position wondering where it all went wrong- be sure to fit "geebigs" with his very own comfortable strait jacket.
As a left-leaning independent, I don't believe in torture, which is just what life will be like for him if Ms.Simpleton loses. Just too painful to watch..
You might be a domestic enemy (of The United States) if...
-you declare "this war is lost" while American troops fighting that war are still in harm's way
-you vote to confirm Supreme Court Justices who do not believe the Constitution establishes the right to keep and bear arms
-you promise transparency to the American people, then continue with as many back door deals as you like, on the largest legislation issues of our time...
See: http://tinyurl.com/26a2xo2 for the full article.