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I will agree with Johnathan_Abbinett that the state party should have identified more temporary chairs to work the caucuses and ensure that delgate names were sent in properly, but it seems as if there was no effort (as there was in 1984) to enlist the campaign's help to identify delgates for the 226 precincts that did not submit names.

The notion that the Bally Events center was large enough to hold the event is ridiculous. 7452 delegates were allocated at the caucus. The County Party knew that both campaigns would rally their supporters to ensure that every space was filled under the alternate rules in such a close election. So chosing a space large enough for 5000 was and I want to use bad language here, but lets just call it -- an arrogantly foolish decision of Bush-ian proportions.

Even if the plan were, as you say, to line up the delegates and seat them as needed, where were they going to be held? The bronze room was rented for Obama supporters only -- they graciously allowed it to be used for all alternates once it was clear that the main room was far to small to accomodate everyone.

Equally foolish was the idea of using unsecured, roving bankers boxes to collect the alignement preferences. Many of the delegates weren't sure where they were, or if they were candidate specific.

Not expecting a "tsunami" of support requires absoulte blindness to the process to date. John Hunt (and I don't know the man personally, I'm sure he's everything you say he is) and his support seems to have failed to make even the most elemenatry of calculations in planning for this event. The party should seek a venue that seats 12-15 thousand for the next one, because supporters on both sides are going to come out in force to make sure it's done right.

I will be volunteering for the "do-over" and then I will be asking for John Hunt to step down for new leadership.

(Suggest removal) 2/24/08 at 11:56 a.m.

I will agree with Johnathan_Abbinett that the state party should have identified more temporary chairs to work the caucuses and ensure that delgate names were sent in properly, but it seems as if there was no effort (as there was in 1984) to enlist the campaign's help to identify delgates for the 226 precincts that did not submit names.

The notion that the Bally Events center was large enough to hold the event is ridiculous. 7452 delegates were allocated at the caucus, not 3300. (As you suggested Johnathan, Check the NSDP website) The County Party knew that both campaigns would rally their supporters to ensure that every space was filled under the alternate rules in such a close election. So chosing a space large enough for 5000 was and I want to use bad language here, but lets just call it -- an arrogantly foolish decision of Bush-ian proportions.

Even if the plan were, as you say, to line up the delegates and seat them as needed, where were they going to be held? The bronze room was rented for Obama supporters only -- they graciously allowed it to be used for all alternates once it was clear that the main room was far to small to accomodate everyone.

Equally foolish was the idea of using unsecured, roving bankers boxes to collect the alignement preferences. Many of the delegates weren't sure where they were, or if they were candidate specific.

Not expecting a "tsunami" of support requires absoulte blindness to the process to date. John Hunt (and I don't know the man personally, I'm sure he's everything you say he is) and his support seems to have failed to make even the most elemenatry of calculations in planning for this event. The party should seek a venue that seats 12-15 thousand for the next one, because supporters on both sides are going to come out in force to make sure it's done right.

I will be volunteering for the "do-over" and then I will be asking for John Hunt to step down for new leadership.

(Suggest removal) 2/24/08 at 11:54 a.m.

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