Comments by user: loveywentworth
Also the comment in the above news report....
"The homeowners haven't been damaged by the pollution...."
Well, owning a piece of property in an area known to be contaminated....sounds like damage to me.
Ask a couple of the neighbors that bought in that neighborhood...
Property values, unknown vapor intrusion levels,
Venting systems that don't work!
Just because they aren't covered in festering sores or losing their hair, eyesight, or having their limbs falling off...doesn't mean they haven't been damaged.
There IS damage....just the fact of living over the stuff is damage enough.
Once again....if you go over the speed limit in that neighborhood, you could get a ticket, and have to pay or suffer the consequences.
Go ahead and DUMP a Known Cancer Causing chemical under everyones home....pollute the environment and put lives at risk....and nothing happens.
At least for Nine years.
Get off your donkey and start cleaning the stuff up.
A lot of us don't want to live over LAS VEGAS's newest attraction. The Plume of Doom!
Way to go! A little to late to be saving face now. Oh yea... there is a contaminated well on Geronimo, and one on Cochise. Why haven't the homeowners been notified that they are on top of contaminated wells????? Oh yea, it takes three years of sitting on the information. Like they did to the folks on the west side of Spencer.
Irresponsible!
Every home over THE CONAMINATED PLUME should have a venting system. EVERY ONE OF THEM. I would rather be SAFE THAN SORRY.
And what happens when the EPA rules on PCE vapor intrusion amounts allowed in homes??? What happens if it is less than the 32 micrograms the state is using????? All indications are that it will be less....far less. Then What?
OOOPS we are sorry, we chose a number that was at the high end....our bad!
The NDEP must be using their crystal balls to look into the future of the homes, by using a single air test in 2007 for some. And an "Action level" of 32
Shame on all of you!
WOW....After knowing of the pollution for NINE years the state has actually decided to do SOMETHING? Maybe now we can actually get our air tested more than ONCE! The NDEP conducted ONE test in our homes...One time. With a sampling cannister in ONE Room! They have never come back to test again. I guess they can draw all the correct conclusions from a single test. AMAZING!
It makes me feel soooooo safe knowing that they are "Watching out for our health"
Bologna.
Why do the folks in California, NY and North Carolina all have the venting systems in their homes...similar situations with a plume of PCE under their homes and readings FAR LESS than the amounts found in our air. Also, when the STATE says it was discovered in 2000 (which is bad enough) Living on the golf course we have found some records that they knew of the PCE contamination as early as 1998, and there is some documentation going back as far as 1988 that stated there was indications of Chemical contamination.
WHAT TOOK SO LONG????
What about the families that purchased homes after the States "discovery", but before they ANNOUNCED to the public of the contamination.
ABOUT THREE YEARS OF KNOWING! A fact that would have influenced a choice in purchasing.
A material fact that was simply...left out.
GOOD FOR YOU STATE! get your money back from the responsible parties! Take care of yourself!
This action makes it appear that you care about the "throw away" community of Paradise Palms.
The whole thing is a huge mess!
Has it ever been mentioned that PCE was found in the deep aquifer under the golf course???
Isn't the deep water the same water being used to "water the lawn" The thought of people possibly breathing in the water vapor containing PCE isnt pleasant.
What about the odd clusters of cancer in that area.
Blood disorders and kidney problems. I am sure it can be explained too.
Poor diet, bad genes, lifestyle....
Maybe someone should call LOIS GIBBS.
Would the STATE be suing now....if the homeowners did not band together????? Or would we have been just left to quietly rot away??? and forgotten?
THE STATE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY and an OBLIGATION to the homeowners in that area. NOTHING has been done to clean the contamination. NINE YEARS!
After reading this article a few more times...
there are quite a few things that are contradictory.
The word toxic and pollution are in the same sentence...look up pollution...
The contamination of air, water, or soil by substances that are harmful to living organisms. Pollution can occur naturally, for example through volcanic eruptions, or as the result of human activities, such as the spilling of oil or disposal of industrial waste.
Then go ahead and look up toxic.
Hmmm.
Not to be an alarmist.
Also, how does the PCE decide which homes it wants to send its vapors up to? Only 15 homes?
Some crazy science or perhaps some zany new physics that common Paradise Palms folks couldnt possibly understand.
The NDEP wants to seal the slabs under our homes.
One of the neighbors had a problem with a new floor being installed. A concrete engineer came out and did moisture testing, core sampling and other tests and determined that sealing the slabs would be detrimental to the foundation of the homes and that they need to be left unsealed so the slab could breathe. This is because of the ground water mixed with the high PH of the soil.
Also....if they have ever looked at any of the slabs in the homes....there are a million cracks! Lots of luck sealing them all!
Also, the NDEP says that there are no short term health effects from the concentrations of PCE Vapors. Short term effects ended in 2005, we are well into LONG TERM EFFECTS and adding another five to ten years....to clean this stuff up.
Color me TOXIC!
I have a home in Paradise Palms...and it was tested, and it is above the NDEP's "Action Level"
Interesting that the NDEP's level is far higher than the EPAs. The contractor came to our house.
We then found out that the contractor the NDEP wanted to use, is not licensed in Nevada, and they have never installed a system like this for PCE reasons. The NDEP rushed us, giving us short time to decide if we wanted the system installed. The NDEP sure took its sweet time to let us know about all of this. AND the word TOXIC and POLLUTED are not alarmist. They are accurate. Look to the EPA and find out what Toxic and Polluted Levels are. What about the idiopathic blood disorders that have affected numerous Paradise Palms residents, odd cancers, and strange deaths. Could these be related to PCE.
How long has it been there?? We have been there for many years and our neighbors on two sides and behind us have been there since the houses were new. All have lost a family member to Cancer or have had some odd ball disorder...is that normal for a neighborhood??? Shame on AL Phillips, and the NDEP and the EPA for allowing this to sit for so many years.
Eight years of knowing and keeping it quiet is a crime in my book. How many more dirty little secrets are there? Clean up the mess!
Lovey
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If court action didn't happen....we would be sitting on toxic vapors for the rest of our lives. It is a sad day when the people in government look the other way, because it messes with their budgets. Why do you think that only a few homes in the neighborhood have venting systems?? is it because the levels were too high?
Almost every home in that neighborhood that has been tested is well over the EPA "action" levels determined safe by CA NY NC TX NJ etc etc etc.
The state didn't want to spend anything on a bunch of throw away homeowners.
Sometimes when you get your back up against the wall....you will fight for what is right!
We didn't ask for Al Philips to spill his toxic waste....we just ask that they clean the stuff up.
Hopes and dreams and a lot of money is going down the tubes here. How do you sell a house in the middle of ones that have venting systems??? The homeowners could get sued because of this.
Trying to find out just how toxic this place is...
is a nightmare.....
With the NDEP talking out of both sides of its mouth now...
They have to say we are not in danger...because that is what they said from the beginning.
Private tests along the Golf Course homes are being conducted. As are homes in the most toxic areas of the Plume. It will be a very sad day when the numbers dont jive!
It isn't inexpensive to have your air tested thouroughly. Unlike the single cannisters the NDEP used.
The type of air sampling done should have been conducted no less than 30 times in a year to determine what is going on in a home.
Once doesn't cut it.
Heat, humidity, rainfall, airconditioning, barometric pressure can all have an influence.
I guess we should be lucky that they even went as far as testing our air once!
This news article is being hand delivered to all of the owners on the golf course....
We need to have our air tested! The folks west of spencer need their air tested each month too!
And btw...homeowners. Did you know a house on Ottawa sold for less than 80,000.00
What about a tax break STATE?
Or maybe we should each pay a little extra for the honor of living over a toxic dump.
WELCOME NEW HOMEBUYERS TO LAS VEGAS!
Lois Gibbs has been contacted.