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jlb101 wrote:
"We were adequately trained and knew the consequences of doing the wrong thing"
You are right, and to puncuate the thought.
Refilling a propane tank would be simular to refilling an ammonia tank, as both are stored at a relitivally low pressure ~100 psig in the form of a fully saturated vapor and liquid.
Natural Gas on the other hand would be stored at comparitivally high pressures as a gas . . . > 1000 psig.
The amount of energy in the "tank" would be low for a gas (Natural Gas) as compaired to a liquid (propane or ammonia).
Of course, the energy content of gasoline or diesel is greater than any of the fore-mentioned fuels.
Natural gas must be stored at high pressures . . . > 1000 psig . . . and requires expensive pumps that could be dangerous if used improperly during the filling process. Additional risk exists during an accident, over an above what exists when using a liquid fuel.
NH3, ammonia, is an interesting way to store hydrogen for use as a liquid, room temperature fuel, @ ~ 100 psig. It is also interesting for fuel distribution because it can use wind and solar power to produce the ammonia, where the power is then distributed in the liquid form.
If the problem we are attempting to solve includes replacing oil as a fuel for vehicles and using a fuel that does not produce carbon dioxide then hydrogen hence ammonia is a solution. Unlike propane, ammonia does not produce CO2, and unlike hydrocarbon fuels, ammonia can be made directly from renewable energy sources with out the need for an electrical distribution system.
What we need to get Congress out of the legitimate affairs of Business. Congress has been the root problem, in my opinion, of nearly every economic mess this country has gotten into. The Keynesian Economic model appears to have been invented out of thin air as nothing more than an excuse for Government to mettle in the affairs of everyone's life. If this country is to survive, the role of Government must be redefined such that government no longer allowed running the entire country like a mob protection racket and we must end Congresses role of Social Engineering our society to some un-workable utopian form, which forces a god-less Humanism religion down the throat of every citizen.
ThisOneGuy wrote:
My point is that right wingers typically drag out the states right argument when all else fails. It usually comes out so late in the debate as to seem disingenuous.
Don't agree . . .
It is not the far right of the Republican Party that promotes these libertarian or classic liberal arguments. These arguments are being promoted by people that identify themselves with the Constitutional, Libertarian and Independent Parties.
The Republican Party as a whole supports a strong centralized Federal Government. Where Republicans differ with the present Democratic is the mix of services provided to the people from a regulated private sector to public sector.
The States rights movement is simply an extension of the movement to limit the power of a centralized Federal Government in order to regain some home rule back to the people.
Whether you believe in it or not, both the Democratic and Republican parties have lost the confidence and support of many Americans who now see our two party systems as the root of many of the problems in our country today. What we are witnessing is nothing less than the start of a revolution that will first occur in the ballot box.
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Would it not be better if the argument was framed as:
What circumstances can be considered justifiable homicide?
Then the question of when a human egg and sperm becomes human simply goes away.