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Endor and Wynn Casino's...here we go again with the High-End Resorts again. I think there are enough of these type.

The middle-class are the ones who made Vegas, if you turn your back on them, they will turn their back on YOU!

I cannot believe that Vegas Casino's have turned their back on the middle-aged/ middle-class gamblers that made Vegas what it is today.

I have 3 adult kids in their 20's and have gone out to Vegas with us at least twice each. They all come back saying it was OK, but way too expensive and doubt they will go back. Eating at the Casino's has gotten outrageous and out of whack with what the average person can afford. Why do they continue to "Up-Scale" their restaurants and hotels to the point of only being able to attract customers that make over $200,000 a year?

I am so tired of seeing on the Travel Channel about Vegas and "The Whales", just how many of those do they think are out there? Vegas was for the middle-class masses, but now all's they want is the young crowd that can barely afford the plane ticket and are living at home in record numbers until they are in their middle 20's because they cannot afford to move out.

You are absolutely correct and Vegas should pay attention. Get back to the basics of Casino adult gambling fun and try promotions that will bring the middle-class/middle-aged customer back and you will see Vegas thrive again.

These are the types of customers that come 2 and 3 times a year and actually "Gamble". The Strip Casino's have all but lost this business, these customers in record numbers are going downtown and to the local Casino's to gamble. I have been coming for over 15 years and have changed to this type of gambler myself.

I use to love Steve Wynn's properties "The Gold Nugget" and "The Mirage", but when we visited his new "Wynn", well"it's obvious he has gotten so rich off of the "Middle-Class" that he has also left us behind. His new Casino was cold and so up-scale that I will never go back. This is a lesson that all the Strip Casino's should realize. The middle-class are the ones who made Vegas, if you turn your back on them, they will turn their back on YOU!

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 8:06 p.m.

I cannot believe that Vegas Casino's have turned their back on the middle-aged/ middle-class gamblers that made Vegas what it is today. This is one of the resons Vegas business is down.

I have 3 adult kids in their 20's and have gone out to Vegas with us at least twice each. They all come back saying it was OK, but way too expensive and doubt they will go back. Eating at the Casino's has gotten outrageous and out of whack with what the average person can afford. Why do they continue to "Up-Scale" their restaurants and hotels to the point of only being able to attract customers that make over $200,000 a year?

I am so tired of seeing on the Travel Channel about Vegas and "The Whales", just how many of those do they think are out there? Vegas was for the middle-class masses, but now all's they want is the young crowd that can barely afford the plane ticket and are living at home in record numbers until they are in their middle 20's because they cannot afford to move out.

You are absolutely correct and Vegas should pay attention. Get back to the basics of Casino adult gambling fun and try promotions that will bring the middle-class/middle-aged customer back and you will see Vegas thrive again.

These are the types of customers that come 2 and 3 times a year and actually "Gamble". The Strip Casino's have all but lost this business, these customers in record numbers are going downtown and to the local Casino's to gamble. I have been coming for over 15 years and have changed to this type of gambler myself.

I use to love Steve Wynn's properties "The Gold Nugget" and "The Mirage", but when we visited his new "Wynn", well"it's obvious he has gotten so rich off of the "Middle-Class" that he has also left us behind. His new Casino was cold and so up-scale that I will never go back. This is a lesson that all the Strip Casino's should realize. The middle-class are the ones who made Vegas, if you turn your back on them, they will turn their back on YOU!

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 7:48 p.m.

I cannot believe that Vegas Casino's have turned their back on the middle-aged/ middle-class gamblers that made Vegas what it is today. This is one of the main reasons Vegas's profits are slowing.

I have 3 adult kids in their 20's and have gone out to Vegas with us at least twice each. They all come back saying it was OK, but way too expensive and doubt they will go back. Eating at the Casino's has gotten outrageous and out of whack with what the average person can afford. Why do they continue to "Up-Scale" their restaurants and hotels to the point of only being able to attract customers that make over $200,000 a year?

I am so tired of seeing on the Travel Channel about Vegas and "The Whales", just how many of those do they think are out there? Vegas was for the middle-class masses, but now all's they want is the young crowd that can barely afford the plane ticket and are living at home in record numbers until they are in their middle 20's because they cannot afford to move out.

You are absolutely correct and Vegas should pay attention. Get back to the basics of Casino adult gambling fun and try promotions that will bring the middle-class/middle-aged customer back and you will see Vegas thrive again.

These are the types of customers that come 2 and 3 times a year and actually "Gamble". The Strip Casino's have all but lost this business, these customers in record numbers are going downtown and to the local Casino's to gamble. I have been coming for over 15 years and have changed to this type of gambler myself.

I use to love Steve Wynn's properties "The Gold Nugget" and "The Mirage", but when we visited his new "Wynn", well"it's obvious he has gotten so rich off of the "Middle-Class" that he has also left us behind. His new Casino was cold and so up-scale that I will never go back. This is a lesson that all the Strip Casino's should realize. The middle-class are the ones who made Vegas, if you turn your back on them, they will turn their back on YOU!

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 7:45 p.m.

I cannot believe that Vegas Casino's have turned their back on the middle-aged/ middle-class gamblers that made Vegas what it is today. I am sure this is one of the reasons a lot of the Casino's are struggling, especially on the Strip.

I have 3 adult kids in their 20's and have gone out to Vegas with us at least twice each. They all come back saying it was OK, but way too expensive and doubt they will go back. Eating at the Casino's has gotten outrageous and out of whack with what the average person can afford. Why do they continue to "Up-Scale" their restaurants and hotels to the point of only being able to attract customers that make over $200,000 a year?

I am so tired of seeing on the Travel Channel about Vegas and "The Whales", just how many of those do they think are out there? Vegas was for the middle-class masses, but now all's they want is the young crowd that can barely afford the plane ticket and are living at home in record numbers until they are in their middle 20's because they cannot afford to move out.

Vegas should pay attention. Get back to the basics of Casino adult gambling fun and try promotions that will bring the middle-class/middle-aged customer back and you will see Vegas thrive again.

These are the types of customers that come 2 and 3 times a year and actually "Gamble". The Strip Casino's have all but lost this business, these customers in record numbers are going downtown and to the local Casino's to gamble. I have been coming for over 15 years and have changed to this type of gambler myself.

I use to love Steve Wynn's properties "The Gold Nugget" and "The Mirage", but when we visited his new "Wynn", well" it's obvious he has gotten so rich off of the "Middle-Class" that he has also left us behind. His new Casino was cold and so up-scale that I will never go back. This is a lesson that all the Strip Casino's should realize. The middle-class are the ones who made Vegas, if you turn your back on them, they will turn their back on YOU!

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 12:35 p.m.

Way to go "Brownln4""I cannot believe that Vegas Casino's have turned their back on the middle-aged/ middle-class gamblers that made Vegas what it is today.

I have 3 adult kids in their 20's and have gone out to Vegas with us at least twice each. They all come back saying it was OK, but way too expensive and doubt they will go back. Eating at the Casino's has gotten outrageous and out of whack with what the average person can afford. Why do they continue to "Up-Scale" their restaurants and hotels to the point of only being able to attract customers that make over $200,000 a year?

I am so tired of seeing on the Travel Channel about Vegas and "The Whales", just how many of those do they think are out there? Vegas was for the middle-class masses, but now all's they want is the young crowd that can barely afford the plane ticket and are living at home in record numbers until they are in their middle 20's because they cannot afford to move out.

You are absolutely correct and Vegas should pay attention. Get back to the basics of Casino adult gambling fun and try promotions that will bring the middle-class/middle-aged customer back and you will see Vegas thrive again.

These are the types of customers that come 2 and 3 times a year and actually "Gamble". The Strip Casino's have all but lost this business, these customers in record numbers are going downtown and to the local Casino's to gamble. I have been coming for over 15 years and have changed to this type of gambler myself.

I use to love Steve Wynn's properties "The Gold Nugget" and "The Mirage", but when we visited his new "Wynn", well"it's obvious he has gotten so rich off of the "Middle-Class" that he has also left us behind. His new Casino was cold and so up-scale that I will never go back. This is a lesson that all the Strip Casino's should realize. The middle-class are the ones who made Vegas, if you turn your back on them, they will turn their back on YOU!

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 12:31 p.m.

I cannot believe that Vegas Casino's have turned their back on the middle-aged/ middle-class gamblers that made Vegas what it is today.

I have 3 adult kids in their 20's and have gone out to Vegas with us at least twice each. They all come back saying it was OK, but way too expensive and doubt they will go back. Eating at the Casino's has gotten outrageous and out of whack with what the average person can afford. Why do they continue to "Up-Scale" their restaurants and hotels to the point of only being able to attract customers that make over $200,000 a year?

I am so tired of seeing on the Travel Channel about Vegas and "The Whales", just how many of those do they think are out there? Vegas was for the middle-class masses, but now all's they want is the young crowd that can barely afford the plane ticket and are living at home in record numbers until they are in their middle 20's because they cannot afford to move out.

Vegas should pay attention and get back to the basics of Casino adult gambling fun and try promotions that will bring the middle-class/middle-aged customer back and you will see Vegas thrive again.

These are the types of customers that come 2 and 3 times a year and actually "Gamble". The Strip Casino's have all but lost this business, these customers in record numbers are going downtown and to the local Casino's to gamble. I have been coming for over 15 years and have changed to this type of gambler myself.

I use to love Steve Wynn's properties "The Gold Nugget" and "The Mirage", but when we visited his new "Wynn", well"it's obvious he has gotten so rich off of the "Middle-Class" that he has also left us behind. His new Casino was cold and so up-scale that I will never go back. This is a lesson that all the Strip Casino's should realize. The middle-class are the ones who made Vegas, if you turn your back on them, they will turn their back on YOU!

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 12:25 p.m.

Way to go "Brownln4""I cannot believe that Vegas Casino's have turned their back on the middle-aged/ middle-class gamblers that made Vegas what it is today.

I have 3 adult kids in their 20's and have gone out to Vegas with us at least twice each. They all come back saying it was OK, but way too expensive and doubt they will go back. Eating at the Casino's has gotten outrageous and out of whack with what the average person can afford. Why do they continue to "Up-Scale" their restaurants and hotels to the point of only being able to attract customers that make over $200,000 a year?

I am so tired of seeing on the Travel Channel about Vegas and "The Whales", just how many of those do they think are out there? Vegas was for the middle-class masses, but now all's they want is the young crowd that can barely afford the plane ticket and are living at home in record numbers until they are in their middle 20's because they cannot afford to move out.

You are absolutely correct and Vegas should pay attention. Get back to the basics of Casino adult gambling fun and try promotions that will bring the middle-class/middle-aged customer back and you will see Vegas thrive again.

These are the types of customers that come 2 and 3 times a year and actually "Gamble". The Strip Casino's have all but lost this business, these customers in record numbers are going downtown and to the local Casino's to gamble. I have been coming for over 15 years and have changed to this type of gambler myself.

I use to love Steve Wynn's properties "The Gold Nugget" and "The Mirage", but when we visited his new "Wynn", well"it's obvious he has gotten so rich off of the "Middle-Class" that he has also left us behind. His new Casino was cold and so up-scale that I will never go back. This is a lesson that all the Strip Casino's should realize. The middle-class are the ones who made Vegas, if you turn your back on them, they will turn their back on YOU!

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 12:21 p.m.

Sorry "Dave2002", I have to disagree with you. Calling the Dealers Stupid is a very immature comment.
I love that commercial on TV lately showing the kids that are raised by smokers showing how many cigarettes they will smoke during their childhood. I do not say all smokers are rude, but a lot are and blowing smoke in people's face is not much worse than not brushing your teeth and blowing bad breath in peoples face.

Smoke is offensive to those who do not smoke if it's blown in their face. I have to admire those smokers who are polite and blow it away from those who do not smoke and for those who hold it under the table and do not let it smolder in an ashtray on top of the table.

I do not mind playing on tables with polite smokers like that. It's legal to smoke, but you should also be polite and considerate of those around you who do not.

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 11:53 a.m.

I have to disagree with those who say it's a dump. Lady Luck was a dump; Stratosphere is nowhere near being a dump. I visit several times a year and they have kept the Stratosphere affordable for the middle class visitors. The Circus Circus, Riviera, Sahara, and Stratosphere are a few of the places on the strip that are affordable.
I am glad to see new management has taken over and cleaning the employees up. I for one do not like playing the table games with dealers that cannot speak English. Employees in that position "Must Be Expected To Speak English"!
Keep it up Stratosphere"I will continue to visit as long as you keep the rooms affordable.

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 11:35 a.m.

We visit Las Vegas twice a year and I am shocked to say the least that making visitors pay more room tax to pay for the school system is another way to run more business away.

We visitors pay our own school tax in the states we live in, so why should we be expected to pay yours too?

Your vistor buisness is down...this would be another way to make sure it continues on it's downward slop. Everything in Las Vegas has gotten so high, especially on the Strip. Way to go on running off the middle-class gamblers, the back-bone or your business. The past few visits we have found more and more hidden fees in our room rates upon checking out, this would be another slap in the face to Las Vegas's core income.

We use to visit 3 to 4 times a year, but not at the cost of room rates lately; I guess we will have to visit only once a year...or, maybe we will find some other place to gamble with all the new places popping up all over America.

(Suggest removal) 11/2/08 at 10:56 a.m.

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