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Tuci78,

The real question is: why have there been 40+ lawsuits filed to get that information from BO? No such thing has been demanded of any other Presidential or Vice-Presidential candidate in our history. I don't think any of them had even been asked to provide a birth certificate, much less submit one to forensic analysis. Why him? And why on no evidence at all?

Have you read any of those lawsuits, or summaries of them? Complete conspiracy theorist garbage! A collection of the wackiest theories imaginable. All the opposing lawyers have to do is ask the judge to follow the law, and the lawsuits are thrown out as frivolous.

(Suggest removal) 8/17/09 at 12:09 a.m.

Lenny_V,
And of course you have some evidence to support your belief. Or are you the blind idiot?

Buster Lhode,
Those requirements only apply if the child was born overseas, and only for a specific time period (the laws have changed over the years). And there is no legal requirement for both parents to be U.S. citizens.

Despite what AKsilvereagle said, a natural born citizen is merely one who was a citizen at birth. A naturalized citizen is one who becomes a citizen after birth. Being born in this country, or being born overseas where one or both parents are US citizens (some additional conditions may apply) makes you a natural born citizen.

AKsilvereagle,
"Barack Obama's half sister is considered a 'naturalized citizen', as she was born in Indonesia and has a Hawaii certification birth certificate on record."

I keep seeing the claim that his sister has a Hawaiian Certification, but I've never seen any documentation to support that. Do you have any?

(Suggest removal) 8/14/09 at 10:20 p.m.

I'm still wondering if Mr. Curry's "Certificate of Live Birth" is actually a "Certification of Live Birth".

(Suggest removal) 8/12/09 at 10:20 p.m.

Gotown,
Like you, and many others, they have trouble keeping track of the correct terminology. The Certification of Live Birth is Hawaii's official birth certificate. From your link: "The standard 'Certification of Live Birth' that Hawai'i health officials now issue....The modern-day birth certificates issued to anyone seeking their Hawai'i birth records have spaces for the names and races of the parents, as well as information such as the time of birth." It's good for any official purpose, including getting a passport and proving citizenship.

So you've rebuked nothing.

And why do "The People" (LMAO) demand that of this President and no other?

(Suggest removal) 8/12/09 at 10:11 p.m.

Gotown,
Hawaii stopped issuing copies of the "Certificate of Live Birth" years ago, after they computerized their records in 2001. All they issue now is the "Certification of Live Birth".

(Suggest removal) 8/12/09 at 3:45 a.m.

prsmith,
Actually, the defacto standard of the day was English common law. No known English translation of Vattel used the term "natural-born citizen" until 10 years after the Constitution was ratified. According to English common law, "natural born" meant simply born within the nation's territory. Jus soli, rather than Vattel's unusual combination of jus soli and jus sanguinis.

MarieDevine,
He provided documentation. That's what the Certification of Live Birth is. A better question is why no other Presidential or Vice-Presidential candidate in our history has been required to produce in-depth documentation of their citizenship.

As for Major Cook, he was an idiot. He tried to set up a situation to embarrass Obama, and the Army just did what they were required to do, by the terms of his commission. Then, of course, the customer, the DoD, said they didn't want him working on their project any more, since he was obviously not trustworthy. Happens to contractors all the time, for even less reason.

As for Mr. Curry's "Certificate of Live Birth", I'm left wondering if that isn't actually a "Certification of Live Birth". Like Obama's.

(Suggest removal) 8/12/09 at 3:38 a.m.

Why would "government agencies" have any "responsibility to ensure the trailers’ safety" beyond, in this case, specifying what the allowed limits of formaldehyde were? The company that built the trailers clearly seems to be at fault here.

(Suggest removal) 7/14/08 at 9:19 a.m.

Since most "shall-issue" states require training before issuing a concealed carry permit, and many of the problems we have with guns are due to a lack of education and training, and many of the rest seem to be due to the fact that, in many areas, only lawbreakers carry guns, I'd have to say that having more trained law-abiding citizens carrying guns is likely to be a very good thing.

(Suggest removal) 7/11/08 at 1:28 p.m.

> Esquared: "Just keep you little pistols in your puny little state and we'll all live better lives."

For your further education, I'd like to point out that roughly 80% of the states now have "shall-issue" concealed carry, or better.

By "better", I mean that neither Alaska nor Vermont require any sort of permit or license to carry concealed.

Only two states (IL & WI) completely prohibit concealed carry, and they're now allowing retired law enforcement officers to carry, in accordance with federal law.

So, no matter where you go in the US, there's likely to be someone legally carrying a 'pistol' within earshot. 7;-]

(Suggest removal) 7/11/08 at 11:39 a.m.

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