Jfnance32, what are you, like in 6th grade? You really are thick, aren't you? Let me spell it out for you one more time: I am a manager in a company, a conservative Republican and I think the way any good manager does. I evaluate candidates for a job fully and in detail, and with any candidates, there are going to be good aspects and bad aspects. We take that picture we've painted of the person and then make what amounts to a hiring decision. Although we will choose one way or another, we still acknowledge the varying aspects of the person's character.

As I said, I don't particularly like Obama much because I don't agree with his policies and I don't like the proposals he has for dealing with a number of important issues. That being said, like any good manager, I have to acknowledge his numerous accomplishments. Sarah Palin was mayor of a tiny town less than 10,000 people, has been governor of a small state (by population) for less than two years, and has overall performed quite poorly-- with ethics investigations swirling, severe fiscal mismanagement as mayor, multiple tax hikes, support of the Bridge to Nowhere and a jejune attitude toward her fellow Republicans like Ms. Green in the legislature.

It's a shame, because despite my irritation with some of his policies, I was planning to vote for John McCain if he'd just selected someone more sensible for VP. I would have been fine with almost any choice-- Tom Ridge, Mike Huckabee, Meg Whitman, Mitt Romney, Olympia Snowe, Joe Lieberman, Kay Bailey Hutchison. Any of them would have been fine.

But not Sarah Palin. She's just too fraught with corruption and blunders in governance to be considered for such a position. With my kids growing up in this country, I can't allow such a foolish blunder in judgment to proceed unpunished. This is one reason among many that tens of millions of us Republicans are turning to support Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin.

jfnance, for your part, you obviously have a lot of spare time on your hands to engage in such a ridiculous spew of ad hominems with the same level of reading comprehension and analysis as a 6th-grader. Even when I tell you that I myself am not an Obama supporter, that's not enough for you-- for you, Obama needs to be the Ultimate Evil Incarnate itself.

Well I have news for you, fool-- the world doesn't work that way. It's messy and full of gray, and if you're going to survive, you're going to need to learn very quickly that people aren't the one-dimensional cardboard cutouts you seem to want to fantasize they are.

You seem unable to appreciate this, which means that sadly, you're always going to be a pathetic, frustrated whiner, failure and loser, unless you shape up very fast. I actually have things to do and little time to piss away with your incomprehension and cluelessness on this board, so I'll leave you to choke and suffocate on your own excrement.

Oh, and there's another reason that millions of us grass-roots Republicans have become so disillusioned jfnance32, and it's because of people like you. You call yourselves conservatives, yet your immaturity, your lack of ability to think for yourselves, to consider major issues, are simply not acceptable to those of us who want to ensure that our kids grow up in a United States that is not hampered by corruption and fiscal insolvency. You are by far the best recruiting ally for the Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin campaigns, and so long as you arrogantly continue in your juvenile behavior and consideration of the world, you will continue to drive core conservatives away.

No jfnance32, I'm what's called a "grown-up," someone who actually has to work a real job, take care of kids and worry about the future of the country that my kids will grow up in. And who recognizes that the POTUS vote is a serious choice. Unlike you, who still live in your parents' basement, sniping with idiot ad hominems at total strangers rather than doing a damn thing to improve your sorry life.

Here, I'll explain it to you real slow, so that your little peabrain can absorb this difficult concept: There's something called the REAL WORLD out there, which you'd know if you could pull your head out of your posterior. And in the REAL WORLD, you see, things and people are not black and white. People are not solely good and solely bad. They have elements of both. Even people that you like, may have flaws that you need to draw attention to. Even people that you otherwise dislike, may have some good qualities.

Those of us who work in managerial positions, have to live in this REAL WORLD because we have to make decisions about whom to hire and whom to fire. And we have to evaluate the entirely of a person's being and accomplishments-- the good and the bad. And when we finally proclaim a judgment, it is almost never all good or all bad, though of course we ultimately have to decide "fire or not fire."

This is the way it is with Obama. I don't like Obama overall. I think he's a Socialist in his policies. I also think that he's usually out of his depth, without a proper understanding of complicated policy issues. But at the same time, like any good manager, I have to consider that even someone I don't like much has some real achievements to his name. He was a law review editor. He served many years in the Illinois State Senate and he worked on a lot of important legislation there. And yes, in the US Senate, he's actually been rather industrious. Any manager would respect that, even if we decide he's someone we wouldn't want to hire ourselves.

You see, jfnance, that wasn't so hard, was it? It's called "living in the real world." Neither Obama nor McCain is all good or all bad. They have their good parts and their bad parts. Obama is not someone I could ever support, though I acknowledge his accomplishments. I lean more toward McCain, though I've become very irritated at the way the GOP has treated Ron Paul and other Republicans who want to reform corruption and challenge the big-government neoconservatism that has become party orthodoxy. This is one reason that I won't be supporting the Republican Party this year.

News1950 and Future2012-- I'm a conservative Republican who does not like Obama, but you are seriously in La-La Land to claim that Palin has "years more experience" than Obama. She was a mayor of a tiny town and has been a governor of one of our smallest states in population for less than 2 years. Obama does have almost 4 years as a prominent US Senator who's been very active on major legislation, and a lot years in the Illinois State Senate-- a state with over 12 million people. He's not inexperienced and he has frankly accomplished quite a bit.

Obama is basically a Socialist which is why I'll never support him. He's shown that at many points in his career.

But then, Sarah Palin was a ridiculous choice by John McCain.

As an old-style conservative, at first I was excited about the Sarah Palin choice. But then the details started streaming in...

Folks, look, Palin fought for the Bridge to Nowhere before the earmarks were taken out, raised taxes in many cases (in particular a sales tax that's been a heavy burden on Wasilla residents) and drove Wasilla, town of about 7,000 people, into almost $1.5 million in debt, which the city is still trying to tackle. The town's citizens were pushing to recall her.

She's actively under investigation for ethics violations for the Troopergate scandal. And she acted like a childish fool in insulting one of her own Republican colleagues in Alaska, who is herself a decent reformer:

http://tinyurl.com/59t3ks

I'd been leaning toward supporting John McCain before, although I've been lukewarm about him, but this foolish choice has demonstrated lacks even the most basic abilities of judgment.

I'll be supporting Chuck Baldwin or Bob Barr in November, and I'm hardly alone among Nevada Republicans. This is becoming a common theme.

As an old-style conservative, at first I was excited about the Sarah Palin choice. But then the details started streaming in...

Folks, look, Palin fought for the Bridge to Nowhere before the earmarks were taken out, raised taxes and drove Wasilla, town of about 7,000 people, into almost $1.5 million in debt. The town's citizens were pushing to recall her.

She's actively under investigation for ethics violations for the Troopergate scandal. And she acted like a childish fool in insulting one of her own Republican colleagues in Alaska, who is a reformer herself:

http://tinyurl.com/59t3ks

I'd been leaning toward supporting John McCain before, although I've been lukewarm about him, but this foolish choice has demonstrated lacks even the most basic abilities of judgment.

I'll be supporting Chuck Baldwin or Bob Barr in November, and I'm hardly alone among Nevada Republicans. This is becoming a common theme.