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Hillary is lethal to the dems:

THE HISTORY:

1. In the 90s the Republicans regained the Congress for the first time in decades.

2. Dems lost 9 Governor positions.

3. Al Gore, the sitting VP, lost the following election.

4. Hillary did win the Senate. She claims campaign prowess got her there. In reality, Giuliani dropped out of the Senate race with Hillary, she basically had no opponent. Her re-election opponent was under funded. So, she can't claim her Senate seat as proof of knowing how to win.

5. What does this predict for the current elections: Two seats in the Congress were just now won by Republicans when campaigns linked the Dem contenders to Hillary.

THE PATTERN:

We can see that people WILL vote against Hillary. The Clintons are lethal to the Dem party.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:48 a.m.

Obama's legislation from the US Senate:

Legislation Passed in US Senate

* Lugar-Obama Act for reduction of conventional and nuclear weapons world wide

* Coburn-Obama Transparency Act transparency in federal spending, found at www.usaspending.gov

* Cosponsored the Healthy Kids Act of 2007 and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) Reauthorization Act of 2007 to ensure that more American children have affordable health care coverage.

* Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.

* As a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs, Obama passed legislation to improve care and slash red tape for our wounded warriors recovering at places like Walter Reed. He passed laws to help homeless veterans and offered an innovative solution to prevent at-risk veterans from falling into homelessness. Obama passed legislation to stop a VA review of closed PTSD cases that could have led to a reduction in veterans' benefits. He passed an amendment to ensure that all service members returning from Iraq are properly screened for traumatic brain injuries

* Congo
* Darfur

* Introduced Patriot Employer Act, August 2007, to reward companies for keeping jobs in the US

* As a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, Obama helped pass legislation in the recent improvements to the Higher Education Act to increase the maximum Pell Grant award to $5,10.

* Obama passed legislation with Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps.

* Obama sponsored an amendment that became law providing $40 million for commercialization of a combined flexible fuel vehicle/hybrid car within five years.

* Congress ethics legislation passed by Obama and Feingold that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips

* Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:48 a.m.

Hillary's war votes:

White House:

Mrs. Clinton had become a champion of the bombing campaign, and many officials — including Madeleine K. Albright and Richard Holbrooke in the administration and Tony Blair, then Britain’s prime minister — turned to her at times to stiffen Mr. Clinton’s resolve to take on Serbia.

“Bill, you’re the president,” was a refrain that several administration officials said she used when Mr. Clinton was torn between his advisers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/pol...

The Iraq vote:

Hillary voted for Iraq. There was another vote, prior to the Iraq resolution, introduced by Levin. This called for the use of UN inspectors, and insisted that Bush come to Congress before using military war. Hillary voted NAY. She wanted to give Bush the tools to go to war, presumably so that Bush had sufficient power with the UN.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/opinio...

She then voted for the unfettered Iraq Resolution. This is a quote from at NYTimes Magazine article:

At the time she cast that vote, she was among the Senate’s most outspoken Democrats warning of Saddam Hussein’s dangerous arsenal. Unlike nearly all of her fellow Democrats, she even went so far as to argue that Saddam Hussein gave assistance to Al Qaeda members.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/29/magazi...

Durbin verifies that the Iraq Resolution was a vote for going to war:

Later in the day, another Obama ally, Sen. Richard J. Durbin (Ill.), spoke with reporters in defense of Obama's antiwar record while challenging Clinton's assertion on "Meet the Press" that the 2002 authorization vote, which Clinton supported, was intended as a means for sending inspectors back into Iraq and was not tantamount to giving President Bush a free hand to invade the country.

"Those of us voting on it that October night took it very seriously," Durbin said. The invasion of Iraq as a consequence of the vote "was a very realistic option," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...

Hillary has acknowledged that she did not read the NIE intelligence report, which pointed out the weaker evidence than they were told. Those who did read the report tended to vote NO on the Iraq resolution. Now, Hillary is trying to blame Condaleeza Rice.

Iran:

Hillary beat the war drums harder than Bush in 2006 to take on Iran.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...

Hillary was the only presidential candidate to vote for the Iran resolution.

Hillary voted against an Iraq funding bill that tied funds to political progress in Iraq. It passed, 80-14. She was the only Democrat to vote against it.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:46 a.m.

Hillary's military votes:

White House:

Mrs. Clinton had become a champion of the bombing campaign, and many officials — including Madeleine K. Albright and Richard Holbrooke in the administration and Tony Blair, then Britain’s prime minister — turned to her at times to stiffen Mr. Clinton’s resolve to take on Serbia.

“Bill, you’re the president,” was a refrain that several administration officials said she used when Mr. Clinton was torn between his advisers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/pol...

The Iraq vote:

Hillary voted for Iraq, as did many others. There was another vote, prior to the Iraq resolution, introduced by Levin. This called for the use of UN inspectors, and insisted that Bush come to Congress before using military war. Hillary voted NAY. She wanted to give Bush the tools to go to war, presumably so that Bush had sufficient power with the UN.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/01/opinio...

She then voted for the unfettered Iraq Resolution. This is a quote from at NYTimes Magazine article:

At the time she cast that vote, she was among the Senate’s most outspoken Democrats warning of Saddam Hussein’s dangerous arsenal. Unlike nearly all of her fellow Democrats, she even went so far as to argue that Saddam Hussein gave assistance to Al Qaeda members.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/29/magazi...

Durbin verifies that the Iraq Resolution was a vote for going to war:

Later in the day, another Obama ally, Sen. Richard J. Durbin (Ill.), spoke with reporters in defense of Obama's antiwar record while challenging Clinton's assertion on "Meet the Press" that the 2002 authorization vote, which Clinton supported, was intended as a means for sending inspectors back into Iraq and was not tantamount to giving President Bush a free hand to invade the country.

"Those of us voting on it that October night took it very seriously," Durbin said. The invasion of Iraq as a consequence of the vote "was a very realistic option," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...

Hillary has acknowledged that she did not read the NIE intelligence report, which pointed out the weaker evidence than they were told. Those who did read the report tended to vote NO on the Iraq resolution. Now, Hillary is trying to blame Condaleeza Rice.

Iran:

Hillary beat the war drums harder than Bush in 2006 to take on Iran.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...

Hillary was the only presidential candidate to vote for the Iran resolution.

Hillary voted against an Iraq funding bill that tied funds to political progress in Iraq. It passed, 80-14. She was the only Democrat to vote against it.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:37 a.m.

Is Hillary electable? Look at the record:

Hillary lethal to Dems

Projection: if Hillary is nominated, other Democrats will loose their seats.

Here is the evidence:

THE HISTORY:

1. In the 90s the Republicans regained the Congress for the first time in decades.

2. Dems lost 9 Governor positions.

3. Al Gore, the sitting VP, lost the following election.

4. Hillary did win the Senate. She claims campaign prowess got her there. In reality, Giuliani dropped out of the Senate race with Hillary, she basically had no opponent. Her re-election opponent was under funded. So, she can't claim her Senate seat as proof of knowing how to win.

What does this predict for the current elections: Two seats in the Congress were just now won by Republicans when campaigns linked the Dem contenders to Hillary.

THE PATTERN:

We can see that people WILL vote against Hillary. The Clintons are lethal to the Dem party.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:34 a.m.

Here's Obama's US Senate record:

Legislation Passed in US Senate

* Lugar-Obama Act for reduction of conventional and nuclear weapons world wide

* Coburn-Obama Transparency Act transparency in federal spending, found at www.usaspending.gov

* Cosponsored the Healthy Kids Act of 2007 and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) Reauthorization Act of 2007 to ensure that more American children have affordable health care coverage.

* Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.

* As a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs, Obama passed legislation to improve care and slash red tape for our wounded warriors recovering at places like Walter Reed. He passed laws to help homeless veterans and offered an innovative solution to prevent at-risk veterans from falling into homelessness. Obama passed legislation to stop a VA review of closed PTSD cases that could have led to a reduction in veterans' benefits. He passed an amendment to ensure that all service members returning from Iraq are properly screened for traumatic brain injuries

* Congo
* Darfur

* Introduced Patriot Employer Act, August 2007, to reward companies for keeping jobs in the US

* As a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, Obama helped pass legislation in the recent improvements to the Higher Education Act to increase the maximum Pell Grant award to $5,10.

* Obama passed legislation with Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps.

* Obama sponsored an amendment that became law providing $40 million for commercialization of a combined flexible fuel vehicle/hybrid car within five years.

* Congress ethics legislation passed by Obama and Feingold that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips

* Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:33 a.m.

"We not only want a change in Washington, we also need someone who is capable of making real change happen once she gets there."

And what change has Hillary brought about? In her Senate, nothing significant. That's why she has to rely on her White House years. There she learned to be a statesperson, and that's all she's been in the Senate.

Here's Obama's passed legislation:

Illinois State Senate 1996 - 2004

* Welfare legislation

* Created the Earned Income Tax Credit program gave over $100 million in tax cuts for families over 3 years.

* Expanded early childhood education

* Legislation requiring the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases. He also passed a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped. The law was at first very controversial, but due to Obama's skills as a negotiator and bipartisanships, he won the support of the police. During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, he won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose president credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.

* Passed the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned most gifts from lobbyists. Worked with U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL),

* Created a working, affordable health care plan in Illinois, that covers 70,000 kids and 84,000 adults, where all kids qualify for $40 per child. Obama sponsored and passed this legislation, working with Rod R. Blagojevich(IL Gov.) See All Kids http://www.allkids.com/ . It is a model for a workable, affordable national health care.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:31 a.m.

Here's Obama's work in the Illinois State Senate:

Illinois State Senate 1996 - 2004

* Welfare legislation

* Created the Earned Income Tax Credit program that gave over $100 million in tax cuts for families throughout Illinois over 3 years.

* Expanded early childhood education

* Enlisted the support of law enforcement officials to draft legislation requiring the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases. He also passed a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped. The law was at first very controversial, but due to Obama's skills as a negotiator and bipartisanships, he won the support of the police. During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, he won the endorsement of the Illinois Fraternal Order of Police, whose president credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.

* Passed the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned most gifts from lobbyists. Worked with U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL),

* Created a working, affordable health care plan in Illinois, that covers 70,000 kids and 84,000 adults, where all kids qualify for $40 per child. Obama sponsored and passed this legislation, working with Rod R. Blagojevich(IL Gov.) See All Kids http://www.allkids.com/ . It is a model for a workable, affordable national health care.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:16 a.m.

People have pointed to Hillary's experience. Please note, that the items listed have not been passed into legislative law, but have only been sponsored, some have passed Congress.

Here's a list of Obama's work that has been turned into law, it addresses not only issues for women and kids, but nuclear weapon proliferation, federal spending transparency, alternative energy, ethics reform in Congres, international aid:

Legislation Passed in US Senate

* Lugar-Obama Act for reduction of conventional and nuclear weapons world wide

* Coburn-Obama Transparency Act transparency in federal spending, found at www.usaspending.gov

* Cosponsored the Healthy Kids Act of 2007 and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) Reauthorization Act of 2007 to ensure that more American children have affordable health care coverage.

* Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.

* As a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs, Obama passed legislation to improve care and slash red tape for our wounded warriors recovering at places like Walter Reed. He passed laws to help homeless veterans and offered an innovative solution to prevent at-risk veterans from falling into homelessness. Obama passed legislation to stop a VA review of closed PTSD cases that could have led to a reduction in veterans' benefits. He passed an amendment to ensure that all service members returning from Iraq are properly screened for traumatic brain injuries
* Congo
* Darfur

* Introduced Patriot Employer Act, August 2007, to reward companies for keeping jobs in the US

* As a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, Obama helped pass legislation in the recent improvements to the Higher Education Act to increase the maximum Pell Grant award to $5,10.

* Obama passed legislation with Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps.

* Obama sponsored an amendment that became law providing $40 million for commercialization of a combined flexible fuel vehicle/hybrid car within five years.

* Congress ethics legislation passed by Obama and Feingold that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips

* Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2:14 a.m.

Obama vs. Hillary

Consider that Obama has had the right judgement:
Obama has been right, Hillary has been wrong (Iraq, Iran, talking to foreign leaders....)

Consider who will work best to bring people together in this country:
Obama has shown with his work with Republicans in the State and US Senate to pass important legislation (nuclear arms control, federal spending transparence, ethics in Congress) that he can work with others. Hillary has not passed successful legislation.

Consider who has had the most legislative success:
Obama has helped pass legislation on civil rights; education; women, kids and veterans health; alternative energy initiatives; as well as those mentioned above. Hillary has not produced meaningful legislation. Her Senate record is bleak. Her health care plan failed. She was kicked out of Bill's administration because people didn't like her.

Consider who the rest of the world will work with the best:
Obama listens to other people and finds agreement in disagreements. Hillary lectures and insults people. In this campaign alone, she's insulted women, men, whites, blacks, Muslims, and the youth.

Obama has shown that he is a doer. Hillary has not been successful in the Senate.

Obama is ready to be the president, he has the constitution to do it. Hillary knows how to set up the government because of the White House years, but she will not be as good at making the right decisions and working with people.

(Suggest removal) 1/19/08 at 2 a.m.

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