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Speaking of judgement PulSmsara:

In 2004, Sen. Obama said he was willing to support more troops in Iraq, said withdrawal from Iraq would be 'a slap in the face' to the troops fighting there." "Democratic Senate candidate Barack Obama said Saturday he would be willing to send more soldiers to Iraq if it is part of a strategy that the president and military leaders believe will stabilize the country …'A quick withdrawal would add to the chaos there and make it 'an extraordinary hotbed of terrorist activity,' [Obama] said. It would also damage America's international prestige and amount to 'a slap in the face' to the troops fighting there, he said." [Christopher Wills, "Obama Willing To Support More Troops In Iraq," The Associated Press, 9/19/04]

In 2005, Sen. Obama said that 'U.S. forces are still a part of the solution.'" "I believe that U.S. forces are still a part of the solution in Iraq….First and foremost, after the December 15 elections and during the course of next year, we need to focus our attention on how reduce the U.S. military footprint in Iraq. Notice that I say 'reduce,' and not 'fully withdraw.'" [Obama speech to the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations, 11/22/05]

In 2006, Sen. Obama opposed Sen. Kerry's amendment to withdraw troops, saying he opposed 'a precipitous withdrawal of troops.' Sen. Obama voted against an amendment by Senator Kerry requiring the president to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq in 2006 and have complete withdrawal by July 1, 2007. "But having visited Iraq, I am also acutely aware that a precipitous withdrawal of our troops, driven by congressional edict rather than the realities on the ground, will not undo the mistakes made by this administration. It could compound them… A hard and fast, arbitrary deadline for withdrawal offers our commanders in the field, and our diplomats in the region, insufficient flexibility" [2006 Vote # 181, S2766, 6/22/06; Obama Remarks, Congressional Record, 06/21/06]
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If you're looking for a way to denigrate Hillary, you can find better reasons than lack of experience. Using that talking point just displays your ignorance. Most people who hate the Clintons know very little about them.

Hillary is more than just the "experience candidate," eldorado, and it's completely unfair to compare her to Kerry in that manner. Especially when she's running on the same platform as her challengers. Who's to say that a less experienced candidate would not have done worse? Also, in the great state of Massachusetts, he had never faced a serious contest from the Republican machine. They've been assailing Hillary for decades, and she knows how to beat them. Her husband knows how to beat them. He's the only two term Democratic president since FDR. I think that counts for something, Dusacre, despite any mistakes he made in his PERSONAL life. But Hillary is not her husband, she is just advised by him. Her strength during said scandal is unmistakable, and I don't think we have to worry about her making the same mistake. Back to experience. I don't think there's any way that you can compare Laura or Barbara Bush to Hillary Clinton. She is among the most powerful first ladies in history, and they even campaigned in 1992 as a two-for-one. That's how impressive her resume was back then. Her experience as a public servant goes back to when Obama was in elementary school. She has lived an amazing life dating back to her time with the Children's defense fund, to her work on Watergate and with the Carter administration, to doing nearly as much for Arkansas as Bill, to serving on the board of the Arkansas-based Wal-Mart and trying to reform its environmental practices. As first lady, she traveled to over 80 countries building soft power, something the Bush administration knows nothing of. By the way - time spent as a part-time state legislator, while voting present countless important votes is nothing to brag about.

eldorado, she has a fantastic record in the senate, and is a leader on the environment and public works committee and armed services committee among others. She is recognized as one of the hardest working senators by folks on both sides of the aisle and has been extremely supporting of her constituents in New York. She is working to block Bush from forcing us to stay in Iraq for decades and has fought to get our troops the proper armor and protection they deserve. Her support of farmers and local agriculture is impeccable. What legislative record are you talking about? I think you need to check your facts. Just watch the debates and you'll see that her command of the issues is far and above that of her competitors.