Time’s nearly up; they don’t want to go

Top Dems, some nearing end, meet to discuss extending term limits

Steve Marcus / FILE PHOTO

Oscar Goodman raises his arms in victory on June 8, 1999, after winning the Las Vegas mayoral race. Goodman has been reelected twice, and, unless term limits are overturned, will be unable to run for a fourth term. The limit for mayors is three four-year terms.

By J. Patrick Coolican, David McGrath Schwartz

Fri, Mar 7, 2008 (2 a.m.)

A group of prominent Nevada Democratic officeholders, including Mayor Oscar Goodman and Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, met recently to discuss a legal challenge to the voter-approved constitutional amendment imposing term limits on local and state officeholders.

Harry Reid, the U.S. Senate majority leader from Nevada, organized the recent meeting at the law offices of Lionel Sawyer & Collins, the firm of Reid’s son, Clark County Commission Chairman Rory Reid.

The meeting also included Henderson Mayor Jim Gibson, state Senate Minority Leader Dina Titus, state party officials and representatives of a Washington law firm. Several participants confirmed that the meeting occurred.

Key legislators, including Buckley and 18 others, are scheduled to be ousted in 2010 by term limits approved more than a decade ago, and Titus and six others will be forced to leave in 2012, according to a report by the Nevada Association of Counties. Goodman and Gibson are both in their final mayoral terms.

Voters approved a term limit amendment in 1994 and passed it a second time, as required by the state Constitution, in 1996. It limits members of the Assembly to six two-year terms and senators to three four-year terms. Mayors are limited to three four-year terms. (A constitutional amendment passed in 1970 limits governors to two four-year terms.)

The meeting of Democratic officials was informal and the discussions preliminary, according to a source with knowledge of the conversations.

None of the meeting’s participants would comment to the Sun about the discussions, an indication of the politically sensitive nature of the subject. Participants could be portrayed by political and ideological foes as defying the will of Nevada voters by trying to retain their positions of power.

Republicans are also interested in overturning term limits.

Lobbyists said interest groups including mining, gaming, labor, real estate and retail, all of which have ties to a party and to long-serving legislators, are interested in a legal challenge, but want no direct association.

Harry Reid has his own motivations in the matter. Although not covered by the law, his interest is clear as the state’s most powerful Democrat: Perpetuating the status quo keeps the state’s most effective Democrats in office. That in turn maintains the health of the party while preventing term-limited Democrats from considering a run for a different office — such as, say, U.S. senator or governor or Clark County commissioner. Rory Reid, the current chairman of the commission, is often mentioned as a prospective candidate for governor. He was not at the meeting.

The term limits movement swept across the country, and especially the West, beginning in the early ’90s. Conservative populists led the movement, which expressed outrage at long-serving incumbents and reelection rates that often approached 100 percent. Term limits were a plank of the Republicans’ 1994 Contract with America, though the party mostly lost interest in the cause after taking control of Congress and many state legislatures.

Opponents of the limits across the United States often argue that citizens need experienced lawmakers to counterbalance the influence of lobbyists and the persistent power of government bureaucracy. In Nevada, where part-time legislators convene just once every two years in Carson City, the limits would undoubtedly result in greater clout for lobbyists, who could use their information and knowledge of the legislative process to manipulate lawmakers.

Harry Reid mentioned that influence in explaining his opposition. “Sen. Reid has long been concerned about the impact term limits will have on the increased power of special interests in Nevada,” said Jon Summers, Reid’s spokesman.

Interviews with other elected officials showed that as incumbent doomsday approaches, term limits are becoming a frequent topic of private conversations.

Many questions about a legal challenge are still outstanding, such as whether an independent group representing voters can challenge the term limits, or whether a politician will have to do so and risk being seen as trying to undercut the will of voters.

One Republican lawmaker said it would be best if groups with disparate political views came together to challenge the law.

“If a politician did it for themselves, it would be seen as self-serving,” the Republican legislator said.

Any legal challenge would likely hinge on the process by which the amendment passed in 1996.

The 1994 question before voters, which passed with 70 percent of the votes, limited the terms of elected officeholders, including judges. The Nevada Supreme Court then split the amendment into a Part B, which covered judges, and a Part A, which covered everyone else, according to a history of the amendment published by the Nevada Association of Counties.

Part A passed. Part B failed.

Term limit opponents could argue that the amendment approved in 1996 was different from the one passed in 1994, which could legally invalidate the amendment.

Discussion: 7 comments so far…

By BringtheRain

3/7/08 at 9:12 a.m.

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I'd much rather have Bill Raggio out of office than Oscar Goodman in office, thank you very much.
By UNLVStud

3/7/08 at 10:33 a.m.

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Term limits for Legislators are ridiculous. People need to take responsibility for their elected representatives. If they don't like what they're doing, they need to vote them out. Having term limits gives the public incentive to be lazy and disengaged from their civic duty.
By GOD

3/7/08 at 11:51 a.m.

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Oscar is just an embarrassment to this city and I'm happy for term limits to be getting rid of him. Unfortunately, through nepotism, his son might become a judge here... probably drunk, just like daddy.

As for Barbara Buckley, she's represents Israel more than she does Nevada, so I think she should move over there and continue her consistent representation.
By RockyK

3/7/08 at 12:21 p.m.

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This article is so slanted if it were a record you could only hear it through the left speaker. Term limits do not give lobbyists power over some poor inexperienced politician, in reality it breaks up the cozy long term relationships between legislators “elected for life” and lobbyists seeking special favors. Term limits break down the power electeds gain over the rest of us and remove them from their "royal" seat of power. They already feel entitled, connected and are arrogant enough! After all, they know what is best for us all the time. The “housing boom” and collapse locally can be laid at their feet. They couldn’t wait to approve any development request no matter how bad it was as long they and the developers lined their pockets with profit. Now it is everyone else’s fault, not theirs. Term limits protect the public from the unscrupulous politicos that believe the law and the power belongs to them. If they did not believe it, they wouldn’t be trying to overturn the will of the people who overwhelming approved the law. But remember, they know what is best for us, and what they think is best is what gives them the most power.
By IMMORALDoctorsandNurses

3/8/08 at 2:48 a.m.

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RUN Oscar RUN .... for Mayor again! There is no better Mayor in any city across America than Oscar GOOD-MAN. It was Oscar who QUICKLY spoke out and took swift action to shut the doors at the Endoscopy Center while the cowards at the Medical Board and Health District did nothing. Our Mayor speaks the truth, makes decisve decisions all for the good of the citizens. I'm so proud to have met and become friends with Oscar, he's the real deal, never phoney, endlessly working on our behalf. And guess what folks..... I'm a staunch Republican, one who is fair and thinks very independently. RUN OSCAR RUN !!!!!!!!! Thank you for all your hard work.
By apdp

3/8/08 at 8:21 a.m.

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There are plenty of competent people around to replace these dupes. Notice harry is against the right thing and what the people voted for, AGAIN. These arrogant aces think we do not know what is good for ourselves. The shame of it is the law does not apply to reid or berkeley. It would be great to see reid retired in Searchlight and berkeley back at home in NY.
By HelenWeils

3/8/08 at 9:12 a.m.

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Time to dump every self serving politician.
FOLLOW THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!