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Immigration overhaul? GOP, Democrat senators vow action

Updated Monday, Jan. 28, 2013 | 3:06 p.m.

WASHINGTON — Side by side, leading Democratic and Republican senators pledged Monday to propel far-reaching immigration legislation through the Senate by summer providing a possible path to citizenship for an estimated 11 million people now in the U.S. illegally. The senators acknowledged pitfalls that have doomed such efforts in the past, but they suggested that November's elections — with Hispanics voting heavily for President Barack Obama and other Democrats — could make this time different. Passage of the emotionally charged legislation by the Democratic-controlled Senate is far from assured, and a taller hurdle could come later in the House, which ...

Associated Press writer Luis Alonso Lugo contributed to this report.

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  1. Kudos to Senator Marco Rubio for spearheading this effort toward sensible immigration reform.

    One wording change I would insist-on is eliminating "border SECURITY" in favor of "lock-tight border CLOSURE", except at supervised crossings.

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  3. For a copy of the proposed "framework"....

    http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/po...

  4. This looks a lot like the Bush sponsored 2007 bill that Harry Reid and Obama killed

    Maybe they will let it happen this time

  5. This is not legislation, only the framework for it. What the actual bill will look like, and what amendments there will be as it moves through the process will be interesting to see.

  6. It was Reid who stripped e-Verify out of the stimulus bill, why would anyone think he would allow anything like it to be included in immigration reform?

  7. Interesting to see that NOW they look back on Bush when in the past the president and Reid were against it. Times change, hopefully this is a step in the right direction.

  8. Why don't we call it the Aiding and Abetting Felons for Votes Act of 2013. I sure hope 11 million bank robbers of voting age do not pierce our porous borders or we will find a way for them to become citizens too. If we reward blatant disregard of our laws, how can we complain about lawlessness? The fact that this is largely driven by a need for both parties to attract votes is reprehensible.

    If you want to solve the illegal immigration problem in 6 months, just levy a $100,000 fine per illegal worker on employers. Illegals come here for economic gains from a country that they have not in any way contributed to building. If this were no longer possible, I believe they would leave on their own accord, or would this approach be too easy.

  9. Could our employment and economy ever fully recover? What good is insisting on employer verification if we're gonna issue work permits to 15 million illegals and their children? Several decades ago we were lied to with the same story--accept the illegals and we'll secure the border. Hasn't happened yet. So SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST. Insist on employer enforcement and send the illegals home. Something about a provision that they wouldn't qualify for welfare--just TANF or ALL welfare programs including food banks, local housing assistance, LIHEA--where one anchor baby means the entire household gets free utilities leaving no funding for American seniors. So as soon as they can chuck out an anchor baby they get full welfare again. How would we enforce any of this--we don't have a database capable of tracking the VISAs let alone tracking the illegals. What would be done about I.D. theft--using a cousin's American birth certificate? Not elibile for ACA--so American taxpayers will pick up 100% of their health care including ER / UMC, vaccines, health clinics. What about the birthing houses like in the Bay area for "vacationing" pregnant Asians to give birth here and CLAIM birth-right citizenship--this has to go. What about legislation to invalidate unconstitutional Executive Orders that ignore federal law? What about those who commit crimes? What about those who drive without insurance? What about those who keep doing vehicular hit and run cause they know they'll be deported? WHO PAYS for K-12, higher ed? We just can't afford this. I'm not willing to retire into hunger and sub-standard housing so Mr. O. can do the WRONG THING for America again. Arizona's border is just 3 miles from a major highway. A 3 mile walk and they think they're home free. SECURE the border first.

  10. Will registered invaders be able to "legally" carry or own firearms?

  11. I was stopped on I-10 Eastbond way outside El Paso at a checkpoint and the border patrol asked to see my drivers license and asked if I was a US citizen. Is this legal?

    Really, if they could just fix the mess and shut down the border to all newbies...I fear this will only lead to another mad rush in because in 10 years we do it all over again.

  12. It's a well known fact that GOPers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. But even they have figured this one out; demonizing a growing ethnic group (aka large voting block) can be very hazardous to their political health.

    Only months ago we watched republican presidential candidates trying to out-do each other by coming up with the harshest, cruelest way to stop scary brown people from crossing the border illegally. Herman Cain's imaginative proposal won the hatefest -- a moat stocked with alligators.

    But all that nonsense evaporated on Nov 6th when votes were counted. Suddenly wingnuts realized that not only was Romney getting crushed but the scary brown people were a big reason why. Now they're in a full retreat, disavowing their former mean selves. It's all pretty creepy.

  13. As usual, those who refuse to address the comprehensive immigration always come out barking loud - but you LOST. Yes, YOU LOST in the last election!

    Get over it.

    Comprehensive immigration reform WILL PASS. It is going to happen.

    This blind bigotry got you no where, it only set you back - makes me giggle knowing heads are exploding when bigots hear the word "comprehensive immigration reform."

  14. It's a well known fact that GOPers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. But even they have figured this one out

    Seems the Dems finally figured out what Bush had been saying a long time ago. Talk about not being the sharpest tool in the shed.
    You're right Last Throes its about time the Dems woke up and figured using Bush's ideas was what is best.

  15. "Democrat" Senators. From the "leftist" Las Vegas Sun. For shame.

  16. Lets just open the borders and everybody in the world can live here fat dumb and happy on welfare until we are all flat broke.

  17. LEGAL immigrants must pass a HEALTH EXAM to preclude importing contagious diseases and CHRONIC CONDITIONS that would bankrupt UMC / ER's by continual use at taxpayer expense.

    What happened to the rhetoric about people who've been here for DECADES, years and years? Without a requirement that residency began, say 10 years ago, they will just keep invading claiming prior residency. What's so terrible about expelling those who just got here, last 10 years or so???

    An aside to unlvundergrad: Politicos are trying to find something barely palatable but they still have work to do to get there.

    There MUST be provisions to expel all who arrived in the last 10 years, VIOLENT, unhealthy, large families with young kids, unskilled illegals, those already collecting welfare--about half of illegals are already on the public dole.

  18. @ Tommyguns, I feel your pain. This whole immigration 'reform' nonsense has gotten so out of whack... where to begin.. Oh, I know -how bout we just focus on ENFORCEMENT... there's no need for reform. We don't have jobs enough for our own citizens much less any new immigrants, legal or otherwise. As for the "Aiding and Abeting Felons" (catchy phrase)... trust me - there's more than votes for Dems. at stake - look to BOTH Parties for complicency in this mess - BOTH Parties have their own agenda for not wanting to clear out the illegals and secure the borders in a meaningful way.

  19. AMNESTY is not immigration reform and that's what this is.

    WHAT IS INSANITY?

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

    Congress has passed 7 amnesties for illegal aliens, starting in 1986.

    1. Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA), 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens
    2. Section 245(i) Amnesty, 1994: A temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens
    3. Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty, 1997: An extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994
    4. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America
    5. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA), 1998: An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti
    6. Late Amnesty, 2000: An amnesty for some illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens
    7. LIFE Act Amnesty, 2000: A reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty, an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens.

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  20. Our country already has a "path to citizenship." Most of the Commenters here, including myself, have Grandparents who entered the USA legally, and became USA citizens through THAT pathway. What the hell is wrong with US career politicians, that they must pervert an established system that did work, towards propping their lifetime careers?

    Any political refugee has a LEGAL avenue for entry, residence, and can utilize the established "path to citizenship." Too many criminals have managed to circumvent a working system, and THAT is what must be addressed. Lock and secure our borders is absolutely right, as Commenters have posted. Demand all employers utilize E-Verify.

    Imprison those who blantently disregard the laws of the land. The demand must be on BOTH sides, as the AFL-CIO has uncovered the sad fact that you have those employers who hire "under the table" and of course, there are those who will risk working for them (while avoiding the path for USA citizenship and priveledge/right to work), found in, "Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, questioned a proposal by the Senate group to require illegal immigrants to provide proof of employment before they can gain legal status. Trumka said it could exclude millions of workers "who cannot prove employment because they have been forced to work off the clock or have no employer by virtue of being independent contractors."" ENFORCE E-Verify and end this vicious cycle!

    While this mess is being sorted out by our system, put any and ALL ILLEGAL persons, including their anchor children, into USA sponsored interment camps, and allow them to be productive there until they LEGALLY complete the process of legal citizenship status. This is the only way to get compliance with so large and evasive illegal population. While under these conditions: Require proof of US citizenship or legal residency for entering US schools, driver's license, use of social services, etc.; lock and secure our USA borders to send the message we mean it.

    Like another Commenter, I lived in California, and watched for decades, those masses entering our country. In my younger years, I had worked in the fields and packing houses, side by side with these folks, witnessing jobs for legal Americans disappearing due to the blind eye of our political and law enforcement system. After nearly a half a century (that statement sure dates me), these folks have nearly bankrupted our country, and progressively put the likes and standards of a third world country in its place.

    It is time to stop this madness. The USA, that we love and know, the high standards we all once subscribed to, must be preserved and protected, even if it makes some folks "uncomfortable" or "put out" because of it. Enter and live in this country LEGALLY people, and you won't have this problem.

    Hopefully, this immigration go round, is NOT more of the same failed policies of career politicians.

    Blessings and Peace,
    Star

  21. Was it not just a few months ago that the GOP embraced self deportation? Do our republican congressmen think that an old white man can fool a whole ethnic group with their turn around?

  22. Jobs/ money in equally equivalent way. How many hours it passes until budget dries.

  23. @Roselenda - glad to see there's still a 'few' who seem to 'get it'.

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