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Sunday, Feb. 24, 2013 | 2:10 a.m.
Every college student should be allowed to defend themselves on our college campuses, especially our daughters, sisters and mothers, and Assembly Bill 143 will allow trained, law-abiding concealed weapon permit holders to carry their firearms on campus. We have to be responsible for our own safety, and that means removing the target painted on “gun-free zones.” I’m the mother of two girls who attend College of Southern Nevada, and every time I hear about another college rape, assault or robbery, I feel more firmly that no one should be required to take their safety for granted. Sadly, because we restrict ...
Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, R-Las Vegas, represents District 4.
This was already debated 2 years ago, yes?
Majority of students don t want guns on campus.
Facility doesn t want it.
Campus cops don t want it, regular cops don t want it.
I think Assemblywoman Michele Fiore is just hearing the NRA yes?
But in the name of rational self defense, i highly recommend for students:
The Kimber Pepper Blaster: www.pepperblaster.com
And a Taser: www.taser.com
Scenario: Rapist: "Hello, I plan on raping you right here and right now, but I will wait a moment or two for you to reach into your purse, pull your handgun, and shoot me". Really?
Miss Fiore wants all to pack on campus, but then cites the statistic of 1% that would actually do so.
There is a significant difference between punching holes in a paper target to "qualify" for a CCP, and actually popping a cap on a living breathing and aggressive perp bent on harming you. Just another screed by a 'bagger GOP NRA drone.
Excellent proposal by Assemblywoman Fiore. I wholeheartedly concur her proposal and with students' right to arm themselves on campus for protection and freedom from fear of attackers.
CarmineD
^^Excellent proposal?
The "training" is a 8 hour class, 8 hours for a permit.
Assemblywoman Fiore s proposal is far from excellent..
This is what the people from Las Vegas get because they voted for a picture.
Give guns to 19 and 20 year old kids to carry around in school. They could really fight for a better grade then.
When the first gunfight resembling the OK Corral happens, Fiore will call for bigger and better weapons, but only for women because she is only representing the women.
"...Nevada is an open carry state, meaning anyone can walk down the street with a gun in plain sight; however, you need a permit to conceal your weapon, and there are certain "gun-free zones" where you cannot carry a firearm at all."
Fiore -- good for you! The really disturbing question is why are these "gun-free zones" usually government property? You made a very good case for concealed weapon permit holders.
One of the Constitutions you and every other government official, as well as police officers, swore an oath to support, protect and defend says "Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes." That's found @ http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Const/NVConst... Yet as some of our fellow citizens, including Eric Scott, discovered those very oath takers are hostile to that part of our Constitution.
"Majority of students don t want guns on campus."
Markey -- so what other part of our Declaration of Rights do you and your ilk think is abrogated by popular opinion?
"Just another screed by a 'bagger GOP NRA drone."
ressince73 -- from your name I assume you are in less danger of being raped by either the letter writer or some of the victims she described. Your lack of respect colors you as a buffoon.
"I wholeheartedly concur her proposal and with students' right to arm themselves on campus for protection and freedom from fear of attackers."
CarmineD -- I'm with you on this one.
"Give guns to 19 and 20 year old kids to carry around in school."
antigov -- exactly what part of ""Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense" don't you understand?
"Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rulemaking or legislation which would abrogate them." -- Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 491 (1966)
KillerB,
Show me those words in the constitution where it says anything even remotely resembling " Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense."
Somehow from " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." you get your meaning.
Have you ever read the 2nd amendment as it was written or do you adhere to the NRA version of it?
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"well regulated" sounds kinda "Socialist" to me anyway. Think about it..
@ Markey
So you're saying that the writers of the constitution wrer socialists?
Killer B, 11:26 comment.
"Lack of respect". Seriously? I presented my "scenario" as a specific action/reaction to most "rape" situations. Most victims, if not all, never know what hit them until the act is over, and they are left wondering (if they're still alive) what the hell hit them. Especially walking around unaware of their surroundings, and who is approaching them with malice in mind. I don't give a crap if they have a gun in their purse, strapped to their hip in plain sight, or whatever. Most rapist types are man on woman. The advantage goes to the man and his unnoticed intent. Guns ain't s**t if you don't have a clue you are being attacked. Maybe the rapist takes your gun and plugs you in the head after the rape: pure escalation; a heinous crime made worse by an unexperienced victim with little or no knowledge of weapons use other than plugging a few paper targets to get their "permit".
"Show me those words in the constitution where it says anything even remotely resembling " Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense."
antigov -- it's in the link in my post. Duh!
"Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal." -- post-Civil War slogan found @ http://www.colt.com/ColtLawEnforcement/H...
We have to decide what kind of country we want. Many countries including Australia, Canada and the UK have much more restrictive gun policies that seem to work just fine. Guns were almost unheard of when I attended high school and college. Institutions of higher learning, in my view, should remain gun free, even as I believe that the schools have an obligation to assure student and faculty safety. It almost seems ridiculous to contemplate arming our young people intent on getting an education. I hope that saner minds will prevail.
"So you're saying that the writers of the constitution were socialists?"
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They Supported Slavery, Slavery Starts with the letter "S" just like Socialism does, So if you Support Slavery, is that not de-facto Socialism So to Speak? Shocking....
I do not want firearms on any school campuses unless they are carried by the police or trained security. I 'am not against the private ownership of firearms and believe everyone should own a rifle, shotgun or handgun, it keeps the government honest! If the college campus is to dangerous then, fence the facility, id all entering, install closed circuit television, hire more police, go to the parking lots in groups and carry mace. Their are many alternative's than carrying guns.
Ms. Fiore continues to disregard the will of the people of this state.
Less than two years ago, this very same legislation garnered a full hearing when it was sponsored by Senator Lee. The students of all higher education institutions testified that they did not want this legislation. The faculty testified that they did not want this legislation. The employees testified that they did not want this legislation. Even the police, who are notoriously conservative and Republican (like Fiore), testified that they not only didn't want it, but that it would make their job during a mass shooting more difficult. Sen. Lee's bill died in committee-as it should have. Sen. Lee then used it to help him run for NLV Mayor less than two years later.
So, why is Ms. Fiore trying to force this same law on the same people who didn't want it in the first place? What future political office is she using this law and the horrible experiences of people like Amanda Collins to achieve?
The questions Ms. Fiore is asking about AB 143 were answered less than two years ago when it was last introduced-but its these new questions that she refuses to answer. Why?
I was coming out of a restaurant at 6:30AM. I was 12 or so feet away from my car when a young man, hands in his pocket, blocked my car door. He pulled out pepper spray, and zapped me with it dead on in about 2 seconds. He then went through my pockets and took my car keys and stole my car. The best sound I ever heard was that car driving away because I was totally helpless. Later I thought to myself what if I had a gun? I suppose if I had one, and left the restaurant with my hands on it concealed or otherwise, I might have been able to react quick enough. If I fired and missed I could have been hit with the spray anyway and had been shot with my own gun. Or it may have scared the guy off. I'll never know, I suppose. But perhaps concealment is NOT the way to go. Let the gun scare away people to start with.
Seung-Hui Cho legally obtained firearms which he carried onto the Virginia Tech campus and used to slaughter 32 students. The 37 armed guards present didn't deter him from his initial killings, nor did they deter his return 3 hours later when he killed 30 more.
How long before Fiore calls for Catholic priests to sling an AR 15 over their shoulder while giving a sermon?
"Ms. Fiore continues to disregard the will of the people of this state."
WilliamH -- you couldn't be more wrong. Fiore is showing she takes her oath of office seriously. So exactly what party of "Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense. . ." isn't clear enough for you?
"...how little does the common herd know of the nature of right and truth." - Socrates in Plato's "Euthyphro" (399 B.C.E.?)
@ sandy_astroglide.....First off your descriptions of Cho's actions are unreliable.
First, considering Cho's firearm purchases were based on fraud, one can not truly call them "legal sales." Cho purchases were in violation of federal law.
Second, Cho did not "slaughter 32 students ....return 3 hours later when he killed 30 more."Cho killed two fellow students in his dorm followed by 30 students a few hours later on the other side of the campus.
While Cho may not have been deterred by the 37 armed guards on campus, his actions that day could have been halted had a single member of the classroom where Cho killed those final 30 students been armed and placed a well armed bullet between his eyes.
Even had that one armed student missed, you should consider how Cho responded to the only armed individuals he encountered that day. As police breached the area of the building where Cho attacked the faculty and students, Cho committed suicide.
That's a pretty clear indicator as to how Chow felt about engaging with those as equally armed as he was.
@ mar100.. While you "do not want firearms on any school campuses unless they are carried by the police or trained security," perhaps you haven't considered that, statistically speaking, you are more likely to be killed by the police that a mad man with a gun.