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Saturday, Feb. 2, 2013 | 2:02 a.m.
For those who have never experienced legislative debates over comprehensive immigration reform, welcome to the circus, and hang on to your seats. Barely a nanosecond after President Barack Obama complimented the bipartisan guidelines for reform announced this week by the Senate’s “gang of eight,” seasoned skeptics began to parse any differences between the White House and Congress. The potential show-stopper involves the Senate proposal to create a Southwest border commission, composed of local and state officials and community members. It will assess the progress of border security measures as a part of a process toward citizenship for the 12 million ...
Juliette Kayyem is a columnist for the Boston Globe.
Juliette says " seasoned skeptics began to parse any differences between the White House and Congress."
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Obama's extreme proposal for illegal immigration reform includes poison pills. These include:
- The Bi-partisan Senate plan requires registration, guest worker program, establishes a green card process followed an opportunity for citizenship at the back of the line. Obama want no contingencies, he wants to confer guaranteed citizenship to every illegal the day the bill is signed.
Forced by big Labor Obama has rejected temporary worker programs which was his basis to torpedo the 2005 effort and 2007 effort of immigration reform.
Obama has issued EOs to ICE and Customs Agents for rules of engagement that PREVENT them from implementing workplace enforcement laws.
- The 1986 immigration amnesty law FAILED because there was no enforcement. Obama will NOT accept enforcement; securing the southern border, e-verify, Identification of illegals - as a basis of for starting the pathway process.
- Obama is forcing Accepting Gay marriage contrary to the Defense of Marriage Act-1996 passed by Clinton.
Changing the Defense of Marriage Act is the only acceptable way to address this issue
So border states will get a "seat" but will they truly get a "say so" on this Southwest Border Commission? Is this just another case of smoke and mirrors with the Federal government representatives?
This illegal immigration problem is so vast and perverse, that one has to wonder if this is just yet another case of carefully "kicking the political can down the road." To resolve this issue, to compel compliance of illegals coming out of the shadows and registering, two strategies can be used: draw them with sweet deals or beat them out of the bushes with harshness.
President Obama is attempting to utilize the sweet approach before necessitating lowering the boom with more harsh tactics. You can attract more with sugar, but what about those who refuse the sugar-coated treatment? Those evading and continuing to invade the laws of our country, will be hunted down and rounded up, and will be put into types of "camps" (these places are already built, including transportation systems, food supplies, coffins---the conspiracy community has documented all these, but were fixated on it being used against rebellious Americans, not illegal immigrants, in my opinion). It's time to connect some dots, and the reasons why politicians have virtually stalled any action for decades now.
Time will only tell. The problem is so bad that we all know that something MUST be done. Dealing on a local level, you can root these people out better, hence, why more localized measures are instituted. The American ailing infrastructure will be on the mend once we get a handle on illegal immigration.
Blessings and Peace,
Star
I agree with most of the columnist's commentary however must say treating immigration like it is ONLY a local issue is nonsense. It's not. It's a national issue. We have to FIRST realize and accept this fact BEFORE we will ever accomplish true immigration reform. I believe we just did, [accept this fact] and now we can proceed with the next logical step: Immigration Reform.
CarmineD
Immigration reform will go nowhere until the southern border is secured.
When I state,"localized measures," this includes going through the vast local data bases, and filing systems throughout the nation, as with our public schools, because you can easily locate those who are here ILLEGALLY. Also, local Citizens can verify a great deal. It is real difficult to hide a family and their lifestyle.
As CarmineD states, the next logical step is "Immigration Reform." Any actions taken, must apply to ALL 50 states in the USA, and as we all know, our current system is very broken and needs fixing.
Blessings and Peace,
Star
The truth is that Senator Obama from Illinois killed the first immigration reform in the Senate in 2005-2007. How? The AFL-CIO, Trumka, BIG LABOR, was and is still against the Guest Worker Program and convinced Senator Obama to be against it too. For obvious reasons.
When immigration reform came up in the Senate by McCain and Kennedy in 2007, WITH A PROMISING CHANCE OF PASSING, a bill amending the proposal was added to water down/scrub the Guest Worker Program. It passed by one vote: Senator Obama's. Without the Guest Worker Program, Senators pulled their support and it [immigration reform] died.
Note that President Obama made no mention of the Guest Worker Program in his speech last week in Vegas on Immigration Reform. Note too that the Guest Worker Program is not part of the White House written principles on immigration reform. The Guest Worker Program was and still is a major feature of the bipartisan Senate plan for Immigration Reform. It [guest workers] will likely need tweaking to get it through along with immigration reform.
CarmineD
"Forced by big Labor Obama has rejected temporary worker programs which was his basis to torpedo the 2005 effort and 2007 effort of immigration reform." @ Future
Kudoes for noting this in your first post above on this thread. You nailed it.
CarmineD
We are under NO OBLIGATION to do anything for illegals. They broke the laws and continue to do so, spitting on our nation and citizens. We must refocus our efforts to a sane means of stabilizing our economy by CUTTING spending and learning to say no--to illegals, to foreign aides, to military aide, to "single" moms, to career indigents. We need to offer modest options for adults that have been devastated by the economic meltdown and to those facing more challenges as the Federal Reserve steals their lifelong savings via 0% interest rates. EVERY other nation on this planet REFUSES ILLEGALS--Dominican refuses into generations of illegal squatters who are NEVER afforded citizenship. Ditto Europe. Quatar? Take a guess. You think illegals live to tell about it?
Star: They're not looking for illegals. As I've mentioned before, just drop by the public library and you can pick up a busload of new arrivals--individuals who can't understand "hello". These yahoos kick Americans out of library services and monopolize the free internet. They email home and give updates as the Coyotes traffic illegals carrying drugs, weapons, prostitutes.
Juilette: you might rethink that "embracing" reform--to realism that the feds and politicos don't have what it takes to implement and enforce no alleged-birth-right citizenship. As it stands, for the parents of EVERY ANCHOR BABY get to claim family reunification and stay here with the kids. We need to REFORM THAT POLICY and deport the entire family.
Roslenda for president!!!!!
Illegal Immigration is the easiest and cheapest problem to fix and relieve some stress off USA backbone!
http://www.gotobus.com/las-vegas-to-tiju...
Can it wait until they finish my landscaping?
SCOTUS should rule the 1986 as unconstitutional or at least REVOKE 1986 AMNESTY since material portions of the legislation have not been followed. Illegals must leave.
Carmine and company: This "chance of passing" is all hype to convince us that others would allow illegals to stay. We will NOT. Check out what the senior Legislators are saying: Rubio is naive and we will NOT support this even with hoops to jump thru. We MUST have Border Security and working tracking systems PRIOR TO discussions.
The "objectives" of no immigration changes is to ENFORCE our laws. Nothing is broken, other than refusal to enforce. We have NO OBLIGATION to make life nice for illegals or their kids. We have OBLIGATIONS to unemployed Americans and retirees. If life is not so nice for illegals, they can go home, the sooner the better. Illegal Nigerians, Hispanics, Asians, Scandinavians....
Moving as of influence of immigration. Removing illegals (not a hundred few) is not easy to accomplish. Giving them a legal status of citizenship is not cheap.
Many of you have mentioned shadow illegals, and when they are revealed to light, is it an assumption they are willingly going out of country. Assumption of liability is huge, whatever turns out to be the line of discussion.
Adjustable and local.
This is funny! Listen for 43 seconds to what Harry Reid said awhile back. This PROVES that the Democrats are pushing amnesty JUST for votes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiNix9VA...