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Letter to the editor:
Sunday, Oct. 28, 2012 | 2:02 a.m.
Mitt Romney has been boasting about how he can create jobs like no other. Why, then, when he was governor of Massachusetts did his state rank 47th in the nation in economic growth? Why, then, did he leave with only a 37 percent approval rate? Obviously, he can create jobs, but only in China where he outscourced them, leaving many American people unable to make a living.
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What it boils down to...
Rmoney/Ryan want to return us to the halcyon days of the previous Presidential Administration that took us into the abyss.
Virtually the entirety of their platform is a return to the 'good old days' of George W., with lower taxes on the wealthy, less regulation, corporate favoritism and the tried & failed policies of 'trickle-down' economics.
It's a recipe for DISASTER.
And the letter-writer is correct;
Mitt's claim of 'job creation' is BUNK.
Mitt's record in Massachusetts ain't that purdy...
"from December 2002 to December 2006, Massachusetts ranked 47th out of 50 states (not including the District of Columbia) in job growth. (We calculated that by using the number of jobs at the beginning and end of the period for each state to determine the percentage change and then ranking the states.) Only Ohio, Louisiana and Michigan fared worse."
(from: PolitiFact.com)
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...
Under Romney we will absolutely create a jobs environment
Romney will first strive to reduce the UNCERTAINTY that Obama has fostered with higher taxes, more rules and regulations, increase energy costs, and out of control healthcare.
Romney's five point plan will again create a jobs and economic growth environment
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Obama plan has created 23 million un and under employed, 47 million on food stamps, million more dropping out
We can not afford four more years of Obama's plan
If Mitt Romney did such a chili red hot job in Massachusetts, why isn't it fondly remembered by the voters there. Anybody heard anything about Massachusetts being a red state or even a battleground state this year? Anybody?
Letter writer bought into the negative democratic [read Obama] spin ads. If the letter writer takes each year the Governor served, the truth is in the last year [4th year of his term] Massachusetts was 29th in job creation nationwide. Almost a cut in half from when he assumed the position. With a state legislature that was over 80 percent democrat, who bear at least some of the credit [or blame] for it.
Be my guest, fact check it.
CarmineD
Romney is businessman and an effective one. He can balance budgets, and lead successful efforts, unlike the present Faculty Lounge occupant of the Oval Office. Under Romney Mass had one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation.Hard to improve on perfection.
He also led in a state where the Democrats had an overwhelming majority in the legislature--87%. He brought the state out of debt and left with a surplus. Sound like something the nation could use?
Trust is an issue in this election. After watching and listening to Romney for months, I have seen, and heard, him morph from a radical right wing agenda (the GOP race for the nomination), to the GOP convention where he had no argument with the radical right wing platform adopted by his party. Then I watched his debate performances when he suddenly became a centrist moderate (in stark contrast to the beliefs of his "base" voters). Who is the REAL Mitt Romney?
73 says "Trust is an issue in this election. After watching and listening to Romney...."
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Trust
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Obama failed to protect Americans in Benghazi . We watched them die.
Obama is steadfastly refusing to answer any questions on what he knows and what decisions he made real time on Benghazi
Team Obama denied the CIA Annex request for help three times. Three time Washington told the CIA Annex to "Stand Down" and not rescue the American Libyan ambassador.
- We had E-mail traffic at 4:00 pm that day to the total WH, State Department, Defense Department, and Intel Community chain of Command of a coordinated terrorist attack. And Biden and Obama did not get the message
- We had video from a drone in the sky that watched the planned coordinated terrorist attack. Being monitored in the WH Situation Room and at the State Department.
- We had a live feed from inside the consulate Being monitored in the WH Situation Room and at the State Department.
- We watched them die for seven hours
Obama had no response.
Nearby Rapid Response Team help was not sent in.
Obama went to Las Vegas to campaign
Re Future. I've read virtually the SAME talking points on another blog, also with nothing to back them up such as sources, and dare I say it, FACTS.
Even the mainstream media would have jumped all over this, if it had a shred of truth in it......crickets chirping.
No Bob, he had no other choice. He had to cede to the 85% who were democrats much like Obama now had to cede to the Teapartiers in Congress to get anything done at all.
Think about it. Governors and Presidents do not have dictatorship powers. We have checks and balances. It was a Herculean task for Obama to pass anything at all.
Romney on the other hand couldn't pass his own agenda in MA because the democrats wouldn't allow him. Of course he touted that experience as leadership. If you analyzed it, he was simply rubber-stamping. And, you blame Obama for not doing anything when Romney did the same in MA. Why do you think MA is a blue state? Why didn't it turn red if Romney did such a great job there?
Think!
Mitt Romney did create a lot of jobs while being the CEO of Bain Capitol for 15 years. The Chinese Govt.are very grateful to him for doing so.
"Is Romney really a job creator?"
China just called and said that yes, Mitt Romney is one of the best job creators that country has ever had, right up there with St. Reagan and Bush the Lesser.
We don't need a job creator. We need someone to stop DESTROYING JOBS. Mr. O. waves a pen and adds 2 million (plus extended families) young job seekers--and fails to add them into the Unemployment Rate calculations. Anyone think Mr. O. can wave another pen and find work for everyone? Hyping nation building at home--what's he been doing for 4 years? Borrowing and spending, giving it away.
Actually, during Romney's term in office from Jan 2003 to January 2007, the already low unemployment rate dropped further from 5.6% to 4.6%.
It would be great to see our US unemployment rate drop to between 4%-5%.
After 4 years in office, have we seen the unemployment rate under 6% as promised by Obama's economic team after the $867 billion dollar stimulus took affect? The answer is no.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LASST2500...
Was Gordon Gecko a job creator? Mitt Romney was the same guy in the real world as he headed Bain Capital. His goal in every business situation was to make money for himself and his business partners.
Mitt Romney is not a job creator, not directly. The majority of Mitt Romney's activity was to generate more wealth for the wealthy.
Mitt Romney and the investors he represented are not concerned about creating jobs. They areo only concerned about the return on investmet(ROI).
The companies that were successfull because of investment from Mitt Romney and Bain Capital, those companies created, saved, or maintained jobs. However, creating jobs is not the goal, or the mission, or the intent of Mitt Romney or Bain Capital.
The companies that failed because of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital far out number the successfull ones in terms of employees retained or hired, in relation to employees fired or layoff because of jobs moves overseas, or business closures.
Overall, Mitt Romney is not a job creator. Mitt Romney and Bain Capital business model is not about job creation, it is about wealth creation.
Businessman creat jobs. Investors take from business. Mitt Romney is an investor, as is Bain Capital and other companies like them.
Longtimevegan hit the nail squarely on the head when he said:
"Overall, Mitt Romney is not a job creator. Mitt Romney and Bain Capital business model is not about job creation, it is about wealth creation."
Yep, that sums it up pretty well, but it should be added that the wealth that was created by Mitt Romney & Bain Capital had no "trickle down" to it...
In other words, very few, if any Americans, benefited from Mitt Romney's business savvy...
Everything was all about Mitt....not about workers........not about America!
And yet, some Americans believe that Mitt is what this country needs......
WOW! It appears that logic, truth and sanity has taken a vacation....
If elected president Romney would treat America like one of his Bain clients that were leveraged for pennies on the dollar then and sold off for scrap.
Ms Weinstein doesn't present the full story. True, when Romney left the office of Governor of Massachusetts the state was ranked 47th in economic development. It was, however, 38th when he first took office. That change was the result of the governor's actions.
73 says "Re Future. I've read virtually the SAME talking points on another blog, also with nothing to back them up such as sources, and dare I say it, FACTS."
Fact: Obama is steadfastly refusing to answer any questions on what he knows and what decisions he made real time on Benghazi.
Obama says he brags he ordered them to do everything to save them and Leon Panneta says they did nothing
.
Source: Dave Letterman, MTV, John steward comedy hour, CNN, Obama Campaign, limp the pimp, Jay Leno, etc, etc.
Yes, Romney is a job creator, he know better than to use taxpayer money and try to create jobs. Obama reelection has disaster written all over it. Hire 100,000 teachers, and it will stimulate the economy, reduce the national deficit $4 trilion and improve our education, you have to be kidding me. Obama's plan will only raise the national debt, where do teachers salary and benefits come from, the taxpayer, if you think 100,000 teachers will stimulate the economy, think what taking 2 million unemployed citizens would do if they had a job, improve education, education cost went up in the 80's, 90's and early 2000 but it did nothing to improve education, the only result was higher teachers salary and benefit, and more money for union executives. Romney is right do not draw down defense, keep defense spending where it is, its not just about the military. Millions of civilians and small businesses rely on military spending for their lively hood. Just look what happen in the early 90's, Sacramento lost three major military installations, that was a lost of 150,000 jobs, and a number of small businesses closed, they have yet to recover. Military spending is a lot better than hiring 100,000 teachers. Keeping military spending where its at will generate more tax revenue than 100,000 teachers.
@express,
You're tangled up in your own wire. You said Mitt Romney is a job creator...why?
It appears that Romney's supreme goal was using the Governorship as a stepping stone to the Presidency. He wanted the name "Governor Romney" while campaigning. He really didn't care about the people of Massachusetts. Many grew dissatisfied with his frequent out-of-state travel and shift toward promoting socially conservative issues while he began to focus on national rather than state politic.
Date Approval Disapproval
March 2005 50% 37% After rumors of exploring run for presidency.
August 2005 50% 40%
March 2006 46% 47% After announcing not running for re-election.
June 2006 39% 56%
Nov. 2006 34% 65% Lowest approval of governorship.
Dec. 2006 39% 59% Last full month of governorship.
His one term gave him the undeserved title of Governor. He also claims we have a 'moral obligation' to invade Iran if Israel invades but also says that the Government is spending too much. Where will the money come from for another $4T war? There aren't enough Big Bird shows to pay the bills. His budget plan is a fraud.
Renorobert writes "Ms Weinstein doesn't present the full story. True, when Romney left the office of Governor of Massachusetts the state was ranked 47th in economic development. It was, however, 38th when he first took office. That change was the result of the governor's actions."
Renorobert is using selective stats. In 2002 before Romney's Govenorship, Massachusetts ranked 46th. In Romney's first year, he moved it to 38th. In 2004, Massachusetts ranked 36th. Silly stat when you consider how much GSP fluctuates year to year.
If vulture capitalist Romney is a job creator then misogynist Rush Limbauh is an advocate for women's rights.
BeSafer said:
"This country is enduring the greatest financial woes in history....."
Hmmmmmm.... did I miss something? The last time I looked, the Great Depression of the 1930's was the worst economic situation that this country has ever seen....
At one point in time, unemployement reached 25% and that didn't include the farm laborers in those stats...
Hey BeSafer......care to explain what you're talking about?
Maybe you're just talking to be talking?
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
BeSafer...what rock have you been hiding under? Don't get much information under there, do you?
Are you saying that the current recession was worse economically than the Great Depression?
Wow! Did you sleep through or simply not attend your high school history classes?
We have NEVER had a situation that was as bad as the Great Depression.
25% of the work force was unemployed (probably higher since the unemployed farm workers weren't included in the stats) and we had millions & millions of people, homeless, and wandering around the country looking for their next meal...
There were bread lines in all of the major cities and the army was called out to put down a protest/rebellion in Washington, DC. Thousands of homeless World War I veterans went to Washington & refused to leave until Congress agreed to pay them their WW I bonus....
Where have you been? Do you know or understand much history? Apparently not..
I won't quickly put the blame on your teachers. I'm not sure they had much to work with....."one can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.".
On a 10 point scale, the Great Depression was a 10 (as bad as it can get) & our current recession is a 3 or a 4.........
Hey, don't forget to vote on November 6th....
Remember......a vote for Mitt Romney is a vote to return to the failed and inept policies of George W Bush.
Nancy,
"If you analyzed it, he was simply rubber-stamping"
Yes, Nancy, and the rubber stamp read VETO on it. He used the Veto stamp 800 times, while he passed Romneycare as his signature and only major accomplishment, with the help of Edward Kennedy.
Other than that, his crossing the aisle story is a bag of spoiled fruit.
He also raised the fees on everything he could find.
That is his leadership record in MA.
Now, he accuses Obama of not fulfilling his promises, with an obstructionist Republican House and Senate.
Whatever Obama accomplished, he did so by crossing the aisle and compromising, much to the consternation of liberal. However, he showed more leadership than Romney did as governor.
The US is much more complex given that it deals with 50 states, not 1, and Federal laws and regulations that go far beyond a single state.
Add to that, the catastrophic economic meltdown that went global as he entered the Whitehouse. The fact that we are now in a global economy, with all parts effecting others, and not having control of the governments all over the world, makes it much more complex to deal with than the state of MA alone.
Romney's business experience is about plunging failing companies into higher debts, then selling them when they cannot pay.
He is about privatizing everything possible, which is part of the solutions of third world countries, but which leaves them in worse straights.
In the US he wants to privatize Soc Security and Medicare, the only real safety nets we have. He will be a disaster for Medicaid, for the poorest and most needy.
And what will he and Ryan replace it with? Private charities. Who is going to be funding those charities. I leave it to each individual to consider how much they can afford to give to charity and what the record is for those charities, especially if you consider the tithing basket a charity for most religious denominations.
Romney has a major lack of credibility and trust problem as a result of his own lack of integrity.
It appears he handles "job creation" with the same expertise and finesse he demonstrates with Foreign Policy and Foreign Relations.
He also appears he has a problem with premature ejaculation of the tongue in his long standing quest for power.
He not only lies, but he does so to create fear in workers that they will lose their jobs unless they elect him. This is CRUEL.
He stated in Ohio...
"I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state, Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China," Romney said during a rally in Defiance, Ohio, before 12,000 cheering supporters, according to several reports. "I will fight for every good job in America, I'm going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it's fair, America will win."
Correction came out from the company addressing the true facts.
Gualberto Ranieri, Chrysler's vice president of communications, criticized those stories Thursday even before Romney made his comments.
"Let's set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China," Ranieri said. "It's simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China, for the world's largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation."
A spokesperson for the Romney campaign declined to comment.
In fact, Chrysler is investing $500 million at its Toledo North Assembly Plant and plans to add 1,105 new workers by the third quarter of 2013 to build an all-new SUV that will replace the Jeep Liberty.
Production of the new SUV will begin next summer and the hiring process for the new workers, who are scheduled to start by the next fall, has begun, said Chrysler spokeswoman Jodi Tinson.
Today comes a tweak that is insufficient & misleading still.
"Mr. Romney today renewed the China claim in a new ad, but with a key tweak leaving out the word "all."
From Romney's 5 Point Plan...
"Protect workers and businesses from strong-arm labor union tactics."
And what will protect workers from Romney and business. Neither has shown they can be just toward workers on their own.
This is very important since China is moving to be an industrial power. This poses the greatest threat to Germany right now, but in the future...
The potential competition from China in the auto industry is very real, and with Romney's outsourcing history and anti-union stance, I don't see him on the side of workers or job creation.
Romney is a "vulture" capitalist in his heart and can't be trusted to do right for the people in the US.
Re Future comment at 1058. John Stewart, MTV, limp the pimp (whatever that is), Jay Leno....etc. etc. Get over it. The fairy tale you cited is just that; a fairy tale. Oh, let me add some more "facts" to your original off topic post: C130 gunships, 2 Navy Seals held off a "platoon" of terrorists for 7 hours (other post on the same topic that I cited, from a different blog), bases close by that could have provided support, etc. etc. What a crock. Panetta and the Joint chiefs chairman stated no action was taken at the time because of a lack of verifiable "facts". Get it? There was no action taken because the situational facts did not warrant any.
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Sue.......Great letter.
Romney and other anti-union republicans create
jobs in COMMUNIST CHINA.
Romney likes to fire hard working Americans, like
he did with Bain Capital, for profit for his
greedy friends.
A VULTURE CAPITALIST!
WE CAN NEVER TRUST ROMNEY OR ALL OTHER GREEDY
REPUBLICANS!
AND even worse, if 65 year old romney wins and
suddenly flops over, crazy Paul Ryan would be
president!
HOLY CRAP!!!
The author of this article should visit th following link on FACTCHECK.ORG: http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-...
"But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, WE FOUND NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CLAIM THAT ROMNEY - WHILE HE WAS STILL RUNNING BAIN CAPITAL - SHIPPED AMERICAN JOBS OVERSEAS."
I perceive bias and deception in this article.
From the Boston Globe about Romney's Massachusetts record:
According to a campaign ad from President Obama, Mitt Romney had "one of the worst economic records in the country" as governor of Massachusetts from 2003 through 2006. But when you dig into the facts, you discover that the ad paints a highly distorted picture of the actual Romney record.
The ad says that Massachusetts "fell to 47th (among the 50 states) in job creation" over the course of the Romney administration. This claim is misleading because, first, it relies on data that has been picked to show the worst possible result, and, second, because it rests on an unrealistic standard for measuring job creation at the state level.
What matters is that by the end of 2006, Massachusetts employed a larger fraction of its working-age population than did 32 other states, including Texas.
The Obama ad further says that "when Mitt Romney was governor, Massachusetts lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs." What it doesn't say is that Romney inherited a depressed economy when he took office in much the same fashion as President Obama did.
Massachusetts had already lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs during the year before Romney took office, and it was only after he took office that the loss of manufacturing jobs sharply tapered off. And despite the loss of manufacturing jobs that did occur, the growth of Massachusetts manufacturing output over the Romney administration exceeded that for the United States as a whole.
And what about job creation under Obama? A comparison of June 2012 to the last month of the Bush administration shows that the United States is missing 5 million jobs because of declining labor-force participation and rising unemployment. However we measure Romney's job creation record, it is, in comparison, a model of economic stewardship.
Probably the most dishonest claim made by the ad is that Romney "cut taxes for millionaires like himself while raising them on the middle class." In fact, Romney raised taxes on millionaire CEOs and stockholders by conducting an aggressive campaign to close loopholes in the state's corporate income tax. And, in fact, it was the state's Democratic-controlled Legislature that imposed a huge tax increase on the middle class the year before Romney took office -- a tax increase that slowed down the state's economic recovery, that Romney opposed when he was running for governor and that he tried in vain to repeal when he was governor.
When you string together these observations, you get a far different story than the Obama campaign would have you believe.
bostonglobe dot com/opinion/2012/07/10/mitt-romney-economic-record-massachusetts-outpaces-barack-obama-record/UXVVRMrD4Wf4dWdDb97mNI/story.html
The author of this article should read the article at the following link on FACTCHECK. The article concludes:
"But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange
Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the
evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, WE FOUND NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CLAIM THAT ROMNEY -- while he was still running Bain Capital -- SHIPPED AMERICAN JOBS OVERSEAS."
I perceive that the writer of this article is propagating lies.
This link proves that Romney did not outsource jobs to China: factcheck dot org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach
Look I used to live in Mass and until I moved here in Sep 11 I lived in CT. He did absolutely nothing in Mass and was a hostage of the Dems. You know what he did do, he dramatically raised fees on everything that carried a fee. Thats how he generated revenue. Look it up. BTW, I am a GOP'r.
butch......
The last thing that we average Americans need for
president is a greedy, republican vulture
capitalist.
Why do you think that romney is losing in the
state that he was governor in?
And even worse, greedy romney wants to steal our
health care and destroy Medicare with vouchers.
Greedy republicans did destroy our middle class
by sending millions of our jobs to
COMMUNIST CHINA.
Republicans won't win this election because
they already have a track record of total failure.
WE AVERAGE AMERICANS CAN'T AFFORD GREEDY
REPUBLICANS.
HEARTLESS REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE
ALREADY.
NO MORE!!!
Tom......
YES, romney raised fees instead of taxes.
Some there gave him the nick-name FEE-FEE!
PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS BEEN OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS ON A GRAND SCALE.
Under Obama's stewardship, every month for the last 27 months, U.S. net exports (exports minus imports) in goods to China have WORSENED FOR THE U.S. due to the Chinese government keeping out made-in-America products.
Here is the U.S. trade deficit with China:
-20,583.8 Million dollars when Obama took office in January, 2009
-26,022.6 Million dollars in January, 2012
-28,688.1 Million dollars in August, 2012.
SOURCE: census dot gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html
THE U.S. TRADE DEFICIT HAS INCREASED OVER 8 BILLION DOLLARS UNDER OBAMA.
Moreover, the U.S. debt held by China has INCREASED UNDER OBAMA. (SOURCE: Bloomberg dot com, 9/10/12)
According to the "New Hampshire Union Leader", New Hampshire has lost more than 20,000 jobs in the past decade because of the nation's growing trade deficit with China, according to the Economic Policy Institute, a Washington-based think tank.
SOURCE: unionleader dot com/article/20120830/NEWS02/708309970
In terms of workers, negative net exports of $300 billion per year represent about 3 million productive American manufacturing jobs lost (assuming $100,000 product per worker).
Those jobs, in effect outsourced to China, could have come back to the United States had Obama required trade reciprocity by invoking the WTO rule for trade deficit countries that Nixon invoked when he imposed a trade-balancing tariff on August 15, 1971.
But instead, President Obama continued Clinton's and Bush's policy of giving away American manufacturing jobs to the trade-manipulating countries.
That's 30,000 middle-class manufacturing jobs that OBAMA HAS OUTSOURCED TO CHINA EACH MONTH. No wonder U.S. unemployment is still so high!
"China's currency manipulation also attracts foreign investment into China and away from American manufacturing facilities. This flow of investment already has cost American workers their jobs. When countries adopt artificial exchange rates not based on market forces, they not only exacerbate the U.S. trade imbalance, but they create global trade imbalances."
SOURCE: americanmanufacturing dot org/category/issues/china/china-and-currency-manipulation
Romney wants to declare China a currency manipulator, which would allow tariffs (taxes) on all China imports.
Romney stated on 7/25/2012:
"In conducting trade with America, [China] permits flagrant patent and copyright violations... forestalls American businesses from competing in its market " and manipulates its currency to obtain unfair advantage.
"It is in our mutual interest for China to be a partner for a stable and secure world, and we welcome its participation in trade. But the cheating must finally be brought to a stop. President Obama hasn't done it and won't do it. I will."
Candidate Obama stated in 2008: "The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years, is to take out a CREDIT CARD from the bank of China IN THE NAME OF OUR CHILDREN, driving up our NATIONAL DEBT from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents - #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back; $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic."
Watch him make this comment here: youtube dot com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q
"Today I am pledging to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office," - Barack Obama - Feb. 23, 2009.
Watch him make this comment here: youtube dot com/watch?v=6jJvkkNmR_8
Obama is the first President to have 4 consecutive TRILLION dollar deficits.
The national debt is now $51,000 for every American.
According to Obama's own words above, Obama is irresponsible and unpatriotic.
Now the future of our children is doomed. If Obama gets re-elected, who knows where the national debt will be in another 4 years. Add on top of this the trillions of dollars it will cost to run Obamacare.
Our children will be wards of the state whose sole purpose will be to work to pay off the Obama debt. This is what I call heartless.
RefNV,
I told you repeatedly that my comment about dividing the US was a sarcastic remark, but you caused me to think about it more in depth, so I am happy you are so persistent in your insults.
Just because I wrote and informational comment about China and socialism doesn't mean I am either a socialist or a communist, and most thinking people would know that.
It was meant as an educational contribution since there is so much misinformation wafting through the opinion here.
People can't really comment well if they don't understand the difference.
Since you are only 42, I can understand your deficits, but I admit I thought you were an old man because you seemed possible suffer from dementia since you cannot remember my clarifications of my intentions behind my words, as I have explained multiple times.
Additionally, I wonder why you have an intent to simply repeat your malicious and incorrect attacks on me, rather than be an intelligent contributor to the Opinions here?
Is that all you know how to do? I notice you do the same to others at times, and it reflects very badly on you, since it shows a lack of character and integrity.
Earlier this year, the House voted to defeat Obama's 2012 budget 414-0 and the Senate voted it down 99-0. Obama could not even get 1 fellow Democrat to vote for it, and there are good reasons for it.
Obama is the 1st President to have 4 consecutive TRILLION dollar deficits.
Welfare spending has increased 32% to over 1 TRILLION dollars under Obama.
Food stamps hit a RECORD HIGH 46.68 million under Obama.
The number of women living in poverty has reached a record high of 25.7 million under Obama.
These number are rediculous. It's 4 years later, so you can't keep blaming Bush.
If it wasn't for deception in the media (such as the main article on this page), Obama wouldn't stand a chance.
RefNV, I don't want to waste anymore energy on addressing your attacks. From now on, I will express my complaints to the LV Sun moderators.
JFK stated, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
With the federal government now spending over 1 TRILLION dollars on welfare in 2011, which is a 32% increase since Obama took office, and with a record number on food stamps, Obama is saying, "Ask what your country can do for you."
Bill Clinton balanced the federal budget. Obama runs 4 TRILLION dollar deficits in a row. This is not who was voted into office in 2008. Back then, Obama promised to cut the deficit in half.
Obama is not your typical Democrat.
And now we have much testimony, emails, and even a live feed of the Benghazi attack proving that the White House knew immediately that Benghazi was a terror attack, but Obama blamed it on a spontaneous reaction to a video for almost 2 weeks, even when he was on the Letterman show.
Obama lied to the American people. This is a major scandal and if Obama does win, his 2nd term will be marred by investigations, hearings, and trials. This could bring down the Democrat Party for years.
The Democratic Party should have parted with this radical a long time ago.
Romney is THE BIGGEST FLIP-FLOPPER AND LIAR OF
ALL TIMES.
We will never believe or trust one word that
flows through romney's false teeth.
NOT ONE!!!
If you believe the guy who hides his money in
the Caymen Islands, YOU'VE BEEN HAD!
FOUR MORE YEARS FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!
Loon.
All Obama has done is destroy jobs. All you can do is try to destroy Romney.
Leftists love destruction.
And romney doesn't believe in ROE VRS. WADE.
He will reverse it if he can.
He will steal women's reproductive rights.
Romney is a wolf in sheeps clothing.
TOO EXTREME TO BE PRESIDENT!
PRESIDENT OBAMA has us on the road to recovery.
He saved over a million jobs at GM and CHRYSLER
and created over 5 MILLION NEW JOBS!
He will add 5 to 8 million more new jobs in his
next four years.
We 're not going back to republican greed and
stupidity.
Romney has refused to go on late night talk shows.
What is he afraid of?
Romney also refused to go on the View.
He's afraid of the progressive women on the show.
This guy is one strange dude.
PRESIDENT OBAMA has been on all of these
shows, with no problem.
Romney is the most out of touch man to
ever run for president.
Peacelily writes "I told you repeatedly that my comment about dividing the US was a sarcastic remark, but you caused me to think about it more in depth, so I am happy you are so persistent in your insults."
Can you show me a link to where you stated your comment was "sarcastic"? Here is what you wrote:
"I would like to split the country into 3-4 sovereign nations based on the political philosophy the people hold to. One for Republicans, one for Democrats, one for Libertarians, and one for Greens......If any of those countries want to be capitalists, fine.
If any want to be democratic socialists, fine."
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/oct...
Here is a link to an LVS letter with your comments that are favorable to China's socialist system.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/oct...
Peacelily, your written words give others a view of your thoughts and beliefs. When an Obama supporter writes lies about Obama's challenger, it's important for readers to understand that writers beliefs because it reveals motive as to why that writer is writing such negative things about the challenger. Does anyone really believe what an Obama supporter writes about Romney? Should we now believe your comments about splitting the United States into 4 countries was delivered sarcastically? These are questions readers must ponder on their own.
Finally, you wrote "Since you are only 42, I can understand your deficits, but I admit I thought you were an old man because you seemed possible suffer from dementia". Peacelily, many readers will characterize your words as being harsh but I would ask them to take it as humor. You don't know me personally so your comment shouldn't be taken seriously.
RefNV is ONLY 42????? GOod grief, man, how much weed did you smoke when you were younger?
I, too, thought you were an older man (hate the word "old") like Future and Carmine because of the phrasing of your comments.
I miss George W's "jobless recovery" when unemploument was 'stuck' at a 'stubborn' 5%.
@peacelily,
Here is good advice to use as a evaluation tool before deciding to debate anyone, or arguing a point of view.
"Do not argue with idiots, liars or the ignorant, for they will beat you with experience." (unknown)
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Mitt Romney is not a job creator, not directly. The majority of Mitt Romney's private sector activity was to generate more wealth for the wealthy.
Mitt Romney and investors he represented are not concerned about creating jobs. They are "only" concerned about return on investment(ROI).
The companies that were successful while under the control of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital, those companies did created, or saved, or maintained jobs. However, creating jobs is not the goal, or the mission, or the intent of Mitt Romney or Bain Capital.
The companies that failed or closed because of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital far out number the successful ones in terms of employees retained or hired in relation to employees fired or layoff, or jobs moved overseas, and business closures.
Overall, Mitt Romney is not a job creator! Mitt Romney and Bain Capital business model is not about job creation, it is about wealth creation!
Businessman create jobs. Investors take from business. Mitt Romney is an investor, as is Bain Capital and other companies like them. Job creation and adding wealth are entirely two different items.
Mitt Romney adds wealth to wealthy clients. Mitt represents investors who are not concerned about job creation, nor is Mitt Romney based on his private sector performance.
Mitt Romney's words: Our goal is buy companies, build them up (debt) and then harvest them for our clients"
FREEMAN,
This is off topic, but in resonse to comments made by RE Freeman above.
Only 42, you are just a youngster. I respectfully request that you stop bullying women like myself, Peacelily, Nancy et al. It certainly appears as if many of your comments are constructed to bully, mock, and intimidate women. I have felt bullied by you and a few other Republican bloggers. The comments can be mean-spirited, cruel, demeaning, and personal. They can be very hurtful. So one may say, "If you cannot stand the heat," get out of the fire. Why should I or any other woman/person, get out of the fire because some conservative bloggers are not civil and have no manners and act like bullies and tyrants. Don't you realize that people are sick and tired of the hateful and mean-spirited rants. Why can't some conservative bloggers articulate their position without tormenting, intimidating, mocking, or bulling? You et al. act and exploit just like your Republican Party or shall I say TEA Party since the Republican Party of yesterday is GONE FOREVER!
So please enlighten us all, particularly women. Is this type of blogging a new or just another method from the Republican Party to maintain their War on Women?
I know you represent the Republican Party ideology and I am concerned and wondering if this is the new method of putting women in their place by the Republican Party. The GOP has continued waging their War on Women; it has not ended. In fact, it is getting worse every day. However, bullying women bloggers must be something new from the Republican Party because, at least I have not heard of this tactic before. Is this a new way of silencing women by the Republican Party? Is this a coordinated effort sanctioned by the Republican Party? Do they encourage this type of behavior? Do they distribute talking points from Frank Luntz? Do bloggers vett their bully tactics with the Republican Party Platform as presented at their convention? Have Republican/Tea Party bloggers checked with Carl Rove, the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Donald Trump, Americans for Prosperity et al. on this new method of bullying women; online bullying? Can we expect to hear their new bully tactics in the Romney Ryan campaign stops before the election? Your comments exemplify and support the Republican Party "War on Women"
To all women, are these the kind of people you want in the White House? I would like to ask All Readers to simply ignore the ignorant comments made by the bullies.
Peacelily and Nancy thank you for everything you contribute every single day!
What the one Senate candidate Romney endorsed has to say about women's rights
http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/en...
P.S.
Freeman,
If you want to play the link game with me, go for it.
@Kepi, and to all commentators on the Sun;
If you feel like your being bullied, by anyone, challenge the bully on what the bully says. Challenge the core of their argument using their own words and their information.
You continue to challenge them, within reasonable limits, if your not satisfied with the answer. Americans are fighters, we fight bullies. However there are some who will "beat you with experience." You don't fight them, walk away because they will self-destruct.
Kepi writes "Only 42, you are just a youngster."
Glad to be young Kepi. Though in 25 years, I'm sure I'll feel much differently. Then, I'll be a young senior. LOL
Well, it seems that many writers in this column have missed their "calling" as business consultants. How could anyone be so SURE OF THEMSELVES as to WHETHER or NOT Mitt Romney can repair our economy? I see no references to FACTS from "Sue Weinstein" - nor do I see anything but negative OPINIONS from many others.
Perhaps some of you should hire yourself out as business management consultants - and become a CEO - and then, see if you could be successful in BUILDING a multi-million dollar corporation - like Mitt Romney did (and avoid the libelous comments while you are doing it).
Some of you have correctly stated what Mitt Romney has done done, but others have just made long-drawn-out, mis-informed, OPINIONS as to what Romney has achieved. Well, didn't your hear the 1st Debate? Don't you WANT to believe Romney could fix our economy? Why then would you BELIEVE what Obama says?
Romney has received praise for turning businesses around. And no one gave him his MONEY; he EARNED IT. But if Obama wins the election - you can welcome the collapse of the United States Economy. Will THAT event make you (and your children) happy?
In 4 years, Obama has SHOWN that he can not do ANYTHING to fix the economy. So I do not understand why so many people still want to "bet on" Obama - rather than give the "new kid on the block" (Romney) a CHANCE TO repair our economy.
It IS POSSIBLE - Ronald Reagan DID IT. He brought our economy back from 18% INFLATION, a great recession, and other economic problems - to a new PROSPERITY. And it ONLY TOOK 3 1/2 years to do so (while House Majority Leader Tip O'Neil was saying: "no, no no - it won't work" to everything Reagan did.
SOUND FAMILIAR?
And Reagan was RE-ELECTED in a LANDSLIDE by both Republicans AND Democrats - and almost 90% of the voting population. I suggest that, in a similar manner, Mitt Romney has different skills, and a proven record of success in business - that makes him our BEST OPPORTUNITY to recover from this DEPRESSION.
Romney has been PRAISED by many people for his business acumen, and becoming so successful. And Romney HAS TOLD US what his five-point PLAN for fixing the economy.
SO, WHAT BUSINESS SCHOOL did the nay-sayers attend that makes them so smart about how to improve a business, and then earn millions of dollars for having done so? And why is it they must make such vehement statements about Romney, which are uncivil attacks - and also deride him.
We cannot TAX the rich, and SPEND ourselves out of this mess. SO, if Mitt Romney is NOT elected - given Obama's proclivity for spending, he will soon BANKRUPT the United States. And we will wind up like Argentina - a failed attempt at economic Socialism.
Inkwell......
Your desperate republican rant falls on deaf ears.
What a bunch of BS.
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS ALREADY FIXING the trickle-
down mess that greedy, incompetent republicans
created.
Both romney and ryan helped destroy our middle
class and economy.
You fool no one here.
Ryan voted and supported all of the bush
stupidity.
Ryan is an extreme right-wing radical teabagger
and crazy romney picked him.
And romney is just as extreme as ryan is.
The last thing that Americans need is a greedy,
lying CEO as president.
We can NEVER trust this extreme lying flip-flopper
PRESIDENT OBAMA will easily be re-elected over
this goffy old retired republican.
We don't want romney and we sure don't need
this old fool.
LTV:
I have asked many times for rebuttals, but no one ever did.
They attack you personally instead.
I consider it really juvenile. Much like teenagers who think they know everything!
Oh well. I hope this country survives our folly.
Good luck to us all.
Hello Kepi. Bless you.
Article on FACTCHECK:
Obama's 'Outsourcer' Overreach
The president's campaign fails to back up its claims that Romney 'shipped jobs' overseas.
Obama accuses Romney in a series of TV ads of being a "corporate raider" who "shipped jobs to China and Mexico," asking if voters want to elect an "outsourcer in chief." But some of the claims in the ads are untrue, and others are thinly supported.
But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange
Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the
evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, we found no evidence to support the claim that Romney -- while he was still running Bain Capital -- shipped American jobs overseas.
One TV ad, called "Come and Go," claims that Romney "shipped jobs to China and Mexico." But two examples cited by the Obama campaign occurred after Romney left Bain. There's no clear evidence that a third company shipped jobs to China under Romney.
A second ad called "Revealed" mocks Romney's tough talk about cracking down on China's trade practices by saying "all he's ever done is send them our jobs" and citing the Washington Post article. But the newspaper article contained no examples of U.S. jobs being shipped to China while Romney was working at Bain.
The "Come and Go" ad casts Romney as a "corporate raider," but that term, loaded with negative connotations, is simply inaccurate. Bain didn't engage in hostile takeovers when Romney was at the helm.
That ad also repeats the claim that as governor of Massachusetts, Romney was "outsourcing state jobs to India." But it wasn't the state that outsourced contracts. Rather, Romney vetoed a measure that would have prevented the state from doing business with a state contractor that was locating state customer-service calls in India.
factcheck dot org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach
Here is the U.S. trade deficit with China under Obama:
-20,583.8 Million dollars when Obama took office in January, 2009
-26,022.6 Million dollars in January, 2012
-28,688.1 Million dollars in August, 2012.
SOURCE: census dot gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html
Moreover, the U.S. debt, which increased over $4 Trillion dollars under Obama, held by China has increased under Obama. (SOURCE: Bloomberg dot com, 9/10/12)
@butch2412,
You just made the argument that "jobs have been shipped overseas."
No where in the information you provided answers your charge, instead it shows just the opposite.
Claiming that Romney would be a good president because he has been a good businessman is a joke. Running a business is not the same as running a country.
THANK YOU TEAMSTER AND JUMBO for proving my points, as pertains to my post, last night(Oct 29, 2012 @ 7:21 p.m.).
Your, REPEATED NEGATIVE comments today, further REINFORCE the points I made, as to the lack of willingness, and/or understanding many people have about economics and business - or Mitt Romney's background and qualifications.
In addition, both of you - and other people who are spouting negative comments - WITH NO FACTS to back them up - really ought to, instead, discuss or provide qualified REASONS, for your "pro or con" comments - and not use such vehement language if in opposition.
AFTER ALL, isn't meaningful conversation about issues, and NOT aboout one's personality? Isn't THAT what BI-PARTISIAN agreement consists of? Otherwise, neither writers in this column, nor the Congress, nor ANY president, would ever get anything acomplished unless they FIRST understood the need for civil conversation, doing legitimate research on the issue, allow some "give and take," and offering to compromise (for the benefit of ALL citizens) toward a SOLUTION to the question at hand.
Certainly the criticism and anger that is evident herein (especially in TEAMSTER's, and a few other writings), will only serve to PRECLUDE and ALIENATE any chance for consideration of another point-of-view, or agreement.
So now we are at an impasse, where all seem people are just FIGHTING - and lashing out with biased, non-factual OPINIONS, rather than discussing the qualifications, achievements, of the candidates. Opinions are fine - but not at the expense of either candidate, or civil behavior.
Such thinking seems to be the basis for writing negative (or positive), comments in this column. But we should REMEMBER, that the Framers of our Constitution ALSO HAD very strong OPINIONS - yet they managed to engaged each other ON THE ISSUES, and survived the "verbal battle" in a strained, but civil manner - and ultimately, after several years, coming to an AGREEMENT on what our Constitution should say.
So have we come to a point where we not CARE what we SAY about someone? Especially if we are DEFAMING someone's reputation, and making libelous statements? It is probably ONLY because Mitt Romney is running for "Public Office" that he has not chosen to FILE LAW SUITS against people, and the press, who repeatedly tell lies about him. How long would YOU, or anyone else (not in public office) put up with "Defamation of YOUR Character?"
I submit that stating an opinon FIRST REQUIRES UNDERSTANDING what the truth is, and the issue being talked about. And then, NOT injecting NEGATIVE VERBIAGE into the "conversation," IN PLACE OF REASONABLE ARGUMENT.
Mitt Romney is more of a pirate/racketeer than a businessman. He is a financial speculator to put it nicely; to buy up profitable companies, load them up with debt, then close them down, put thousands of Americans out of work, and sending the jobs overseas, while he walks away with millions, is no way to build up America's economy.
http://www.realromneyrecord.com/
Well said Jenifer!