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Thursday, Oct. 11, 2012 | 2:01 a.m.
Leave it to Fox News to put a damper on the positive economic news of the decrease in the national unemployment rate. Fox spent an entire news cycle claiming that the drop in the unemployment rate from 8.1 percent to 7.8 percent was contrived by the White House to enhance President Barack Obama’s re-election prospects.
Fox has once again lowered any chance for the network to be considered “fair and balanced” as its advertising suggests. Having apparently never won a major award for journalism, but with consistently high ratings, Fox continues to impersonate a news organization with profit as its main consideration without any consideration for journalistic standards.
Americans are a very determined people. Who knows how much progress we could have made over the past four years if Fox “News” wasn’t working hand-in-hand with the “party of no” to divide our country.
Just curious. What's your opinion of MSNBC?
Question:
So how did just 114,000 payroll jobs result in a drop from 8.1% to 7.8%.
Answer:
Well Obama who keep the books is saying he did a "survey of households" and a whole bunch of new people - 873,000 - are now working from home.
No way to prove that bogus Obama survey number we can not see the new questions. Remember Obama's staff makes up the "are you working questions" and remember that under Obama's new welfare work qualification rules taking SMOKING CESSATION CLASSES and many other activities now qualifies as working.
Hummmmm
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UNEMPLOYMENT IS AT THE SAME RATE 7.8% AS WHEN OBAMA TOOK OFFICE.
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Remember when a campaigning Obama bashed and excoriated the September 2008 unemployment rate of 5.4%
Obama has declared his jobs policies a SUCCESS.
Obama says "We have made too much progress" as the Obama Labor department for two months ahead of the election put out questionable unemployment numbers.
So the unemployment rate is at the same as when Obama took office. And Obama says this is "too much progress"
Media bias has been with us since, well, the beginning of media. FOX and MSNBC have merely set new limits for what people are willing to accept as legitimate news sources. (And in the process have demonstrated the extent of the failure of our education system to produce citizens capable of critical thinking.)
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Ironic, liberal news media made the same attacks on Bush's unemployment numbers when they went down.
BTW, it was Jack Welch, the former CEO of GE who tweeted about the government's squishy unemployment numbers. Welch hand picked Jeffery Immelt as his successor. President Obama hand picked Immelt as his jobs czar. Then never had a meeting with him in 2012 to talk about creating jobs.
Let me tell you, arguing about the .3 drop in the unemployment rate in September is like arguing about who paid the higher fares on the Titanic.
CarmineD
I wish we could give this a rest and the media were not cheerleaders for one side or the other, but they are.
FoxNews leans right and isn't fair and balanced. Same for Talk Radio. MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, the NYTimes and many others lean left.
That's just the way it is. Unfortunately, far too many Americans, like Mr. Ventura, are only willing to see the bias on one side. Sorry Mr. Ventura, but the bias is everywhere. Take off the blinders and you'll be able to see it, all of it.
Michael
You wonder what's happened to this country. If the unemployment rate had gone up 0.3% despite the addition of 114,000 jobs, few would have questioned it. But the rate dropping 0.3% raises howls from FAUX NEWS.
It's just as weird that Mitt Romney and billionaire friends like Sheldon Adelson, Steve Wynn, and Donald Trump are among the loudest proponemts of negativity. What the hell do they have to worry about?
"It's just as weird that Mitt Romney and billionaire friends like Sheldon Adelson"
And Obama and his minnows like Sol Alinsky.
CarmineD
"What the hell do they have to worry about?"
Mr. Weber:
When, notice I didn't say IF, this country goes down the tubes like Europe, due to the debt and deficit, these persons have the most to lose. Surely even a liberal eyed democrat like you can see and know that without asking the question.
CarmineD
"It's just as weird that Mitt Romney and billionaire friends like Sheldon Adelson"
And Obama and his billionaire friends like George Soros and John Paulson. Remember when they made billions SHORTING the Mortgage secuirties market in 2008
Obama has success!!!!!!!!!!!!
Part-time jobs.....grow big time.....whoooweeeeeeee....we can get a part-time job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More people quit looking for jobs......whooooooweeeeeee.......good for them. They are just wasting their time.
Obama's success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sherm at the brand X paper supports the crazy talk as well.
Vegas Pat asked, What's your opinion of MSNBC?
I see MSNBC with a severe left bias but whose commentators use facts to justify their positions, as do most news organizations.
Fox "News" is typically apologizing for their mistakes and poor reporting from the previous news day the following day.
How many jobs have you created, Weber? Meanwhile, the whining and wailing from the left continues about the FOX News Channel. We finally have a channel that is not simply a mouthpiece for the Socialists among us and they are upset. Count the number of Dumbocrats & leftists given air time by FOX and the rants by loons on the left show just how ignorant they are. Who else broadcasts stories the MSM buries or simply ignores? I watch FOX, CNN and even MSNBC so as to get as much info as I can so I can make up my mind. I also watch local newscasts and, rarely, the network broadcasts. I find them extremely one-sided so I choose others to watch. All you cry babies can do just that. Don't like FOX? Don't watch it and help boost its already stratospheric ratings.
Mr. Ventura,
I agree with your comments that" Fox "News" is typically apologizing for their mistakes and poor reporting from the previous news day the following day".
They are in line (fox news) with today's Republican party who distort the facts and will say and do anything to win this years Presidential election,at all costs.
Yeah, Fox news is "bias" because it doesn't join the so-called "mainstream news media" touting of all things "Obama".
I see MSNBC with a severe left bias but whose commentators use facts to justify their positions, as do most news organizations.
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Oh really, so when the race-baiters at MSNBC are claiming the Republicans are engaging in "racism" towards Obama what facts are they using to prove this? And sorry, saying "Chicago" doesn't count.
It's all because of some amateur made video, news reported as fact, fast and furious, unemployment numbers, phony polls, fake birth certificates and on and on. What's the story on the Presidents ring Phil?
Fast and Furious has been debunked and now Issa is on to his next conspiracy, Libya.
The President's ring???????
Quality Of News Reporting.
Using the most prominent honors and awards in journalism as the criteria for comparing several news organizations. To level the playing field, these results only included awards since 1997, FOX's first full year as a "news" organization.
The News & Documentary Emmy Awards is a major national broadcast journalism competition. It promotes journalistic excellence by awarding the coveted Emmy to the very best news reports. PBS wins again, with 88 total Emmys. CBS has 73, NBC 40, ABC 36, CNN and HBO with 17 each, CNBC 11, and MSNBC 10.
How many Emmy Awards for Fox News Channel? Zero.
The Pulitzer Prizes are a household name, but they do not cover television broadcast journalism. The Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University Awards are considered to be the most prestigious broadcast journalism awards, and the equivalent of the Pulitzer Prizes.
PBS has 23, WBGH in Boston has 21, and National Public Radio has earned 17. CBS and ABC each have 13, NBC 7, and CNN 6. MSNBC and Court TV have two, and National Geographic , CNBC and Current TV all have one.
Fox News Channel? Zero.
The George Polk Awards honor special achievement in journalism. ABC News leads with five Polk awards since 1997; CBS has three; NPR, NBC , CNN, Bloomberg, and BBC each have two.
Fox News Channel? Zero.
The Gerald Loeb Awards honors journalists who make significant contributions to the understanding of business, finance and the economy.
These awards have been dominated by New York Times and Wall Street Journal. CBS, NBC, and Bloomberg each have four Loeb awards, followed by CNBC with three, ABC with two, and CNN with one.
Fox News Channel? You guessed it - zero.
The Edward R. Murrow Awards demonstrate the excellence that Edward R. Murrow made a standard for the electronic news profession.
CBS News has 25 Murrow awards. NPR news and ABC each have 11; NBC 10; the Associated Press seven; ESPN four; and three for CNN.
Fox News Channel? Zero.
The Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award honors those who report on issues that reflect human rights issues, and social justice. NPR news and WGBH-TV each have seven RFK Awards. ABC has six, CBS three; and NBC, HDNet and PBS have one each.
Fox News Channel? Zero.
The annual Investigative Reporters and Editors Awards recognize outstanding investigative work. NPR and CBS each have five; ABC and NBC have four each; Bloomberg and MSNBC have two each.
Fox News Channel? Zero.
continued,
The Peabody Awards recognize distinguished public service by radio and television stations. Reflecting excellence in quality rather than popularity or commercial success, the Peabody is the industry's most competitive honor.
PBS is the king of the Peabody, with 50 awards.
How many Peabody Awards for Fox News Channel? Zero.
WHY? Because FOX News is a joke and exists to divide our country in their quest for corporate income. The fact that they have the highest viewership is really America's biggest challenge!
Station Manager Dan Boylan of Fox Affilitate WTVT in Tampa - "We paid $3 billion for these television stations. We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you it is."
Fox viewers, sorry to use facts in generating this information. I know you're not used to hearing them.
Phil Ventura
Hey Phil the most important statistic is missing. Fox news, Bill O'Rielly has had the #1 cable news show for 12 years. He and Jon Stewart just had a debate and so many people tried to buy it, which by the way half of the proceeds went to charity,(kudos to Mr. Stewart and O'Rielly), that the servers got jammed.
CarmineD
Thanks for making my point about that negativity thingy. Better pick up your game though - lvfacts101 is still the champ.
Mr. Tanner, Fast and Furious debunked? I must have missed that announcement. If that were true it would have been all over the HufPo, which I read daily, and I did not see that! Univision doesn't seem the think it was debunked!
For what it is worth, I do not recall anyone on Fox News saying they get a "tingle" down their leg from Mitt or Paul Ryan.
Chuck333: Bill O'Relly's popularity isn't the "most important statistic", it's the scariest statistic
Chuck333: Other than the $10,000,000 "award" he paid Andrea Mackris to settle a sexual harassment lawsuit, I haven't heard of any other awards O'Rielly has been associated with.
If you like tabloid journalism, continue to watch Fixed News when your not watching Jerry Springer.
John Tompson: Sorry you missed the outcome of the failed Bush era "Fast and Furious" project. FYI
JUSTICE DEPT NOT HOLDER RESPONSIBLE FOR "FAST AND FURIOUS" FATAL OUTCOME: INSPECTOR'S REPORT
09/19/2012 In a report issued Wednesday, the inspector general excused Attorney General Eric Holder from responsibility in the failures of the "Fast and Furious" operation, stating no evidence exists that the Attorney General had advanced knowledge of risks involved in the operation.
If your lean so far to the right, everyone else appears to lean to the left. It's an issue of perspective. As the nation ages, as the consumers of Fox news get older, Fox continues to shift to a ultra right wing stance. It keeps their audience scared and glued to their TV's. MSNBC's stance is much more moderate, by international standards. That would make most news outlets in the USA appear a bit more conservative to a international viewer.
Thank you Mr. Phil Ventura for your hard work that so well illustrates how bad Faux News is. Not that the right wing sycophants here will care.
"The annual Investigative Reporters and Editors Awards recognize outstanding investigative work"... What about the amateur made video and the ring Phil? It's not always the quality of what is written, it's the deceit behind that which is not that measures credibility.
Mr. Tanner that only provides information that Holder personally was not involved. That is not debunked as you said. But as I recall you believe that the incident in Lybia is politicized. Piers Morgan of CNN seems to differ in his interview with Wasserman-Shultz. Or would you classify CNN with Fox News?
But, the lemmings that watch the F... channel act like it's the very paragon of journalistic virtue...
The mind boggles.
My fave comment so far;
"Yeah, Fox news is "bias" because it doesn't join the so-called "mainstream news media" touting of all things "Obama".
THAT is right out of the F... PLAYBOOK!
THAT is exactly what F..., or one of their surrogates, says EVERY DAY; and the lemmings EAT THIS STUFF UP!
I've had the misfortune & extreme displeasure of hearing Granny Palin utter those words right outta them sweet, painted-on gramma-lips of hers.
It is, in fact, proof of F...'s powerful sway with that percentage of Americans that cannot or will not think FOR THEMSELVES.
Willie Tanner, KUDOS.
Tell it like it is, son.
Phil Ventura, the author of the editorial letter, made one mistake in his comments...
He uses F... & 'journalistic integrity' in the same sentence.
That's akin to using it in the same sentence when talking about Sherman F...... over at the udder paper.
Jon Stewart, like him or loathe him, GETS IT in regards to F..., and he actually went on F... & talked to the ONE GUY who has a scintilla of journalistic integrity...DANG! Now I've done it!!!
Sorry, Phil, I guess I see your conundrum, sir.
At any rate, here's a link to the Stewart/Wallace tete a tete...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM1YaAwOP...
Faux News loves those women who were part of the Dubya years. Dick Cheney is a hero now on Fox News. He is also a wanted man in most of the eastern hemisphere.
"CarmineD
Thanks for making my point about that negativity thingy. Better pick up your game though - lvfacts101 is still the champ."
Mr. Weber: Not to be contrary, but I got to tell you my post: "arguing about the .3 drop in the unemployment rate in September is like arguing about who paid the higher fares on the Titanic" in my view is the winner.
USA is sinking in debt and deficits, and some are making a big deal out of a .3 drop in the unemployment rate after 40 months? And it's an estimate subject to revision up/down? I'm glad I missed the boat on this one.
CarmineD
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Unfortunately for jobless Americans, the anti-business Obama failed to create an environment for economic growth in the private sector. Obama spent two years on his Obamacare when he should have addressed the top three American concerns which are jobs, the economy and debt/deficit spending.
The Obama $861 billion dollar stimulus didn't create the necessary job growth predicted by Obama economists when the stimulus was passed. Below are the projected unemployment numbers given to us by Obama's economists with the stimulus spending applied. The unemployment rate has been mostly above 8% since 2009. What happened? Where did the stimulus money go and why did the stimulus not lower our unemployment rate as promised?
Obama and liberals want yet more tax payer dollars to spend ignoring the fact that the first stimulus didn't deliver promised reductions in the unemployment rate.
Projected Unemployment Rate with Stimulus
2009 Q3 = 7.9%
2010 Q1 = 7.7%
2010 Q3 = 7.5%
2011 Q1 = 7.3%
2011 Q3 = 6.9%
2012 Q1 = 6.5%
2012 Q3 = 6.1%
It would be hypocritical to not mention the bias at MSNBC and the mainstream media. The large Fox News viewership should speak volumes as to how Americans regard Fox News.
Author, the REAL unemployment rate -- the one which the Obama administration never mentions -- is over 15%.
And to be accurate, Fox reported about the contrivance. Fox didn't create it. Go to MSNBC or other liberal outlets for "created" news.
The average american is an uninformed nitwit! Thats why we have these low IQ political commercials! They work! That is also why Fox News has a big audience.
It is not news, it is commentary and opinion mixed with events spun into shows not unlike Jerry springer. It is to get an emotional reaction out of the viewers, mostly anger and outrage. The viewers are like junkies that need a constant anger and outrage fix. Everything presented is to incite anger and outrage, don't believe it? Turn it on for a half hour and watch not for the content but for how it is presented and what they try to get you to feel.. the subject is irrelevant.
Unfortunately along the way facts and truth become less relevant to the end goal. That is why when surveyed about current events Fox news viewers were the least informed about details of current news events of all other TV news audiences.
Fox is simply right wing entertainment presented only slightly more seriously than Jon Stewarts Daily show. Which I would say provides more news than Fox.
Nothing wrong with watching Fox news, just understand it is an entertainment network not a news network!
A May 5 study from Fairleigh Dickinson University indicated that Fox News has the least informed national audience, while NPR has the best-informed.
The study even determined that many people who watch no news at all are more informed than those who watch Fox News.
According to the report, a total of 1,185 individuals nationwide were asked what news sources they had utilized that week, and then were quizzed on a variety of domestic and international issues. The study took place between February 6 and 12, 2012.
The study concludes that media sources have a significant impact on the number of questions that people were able to answer correctly. The largest effect is that someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly, a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR (National Public Radio), they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly. Viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. People watching only The Daily Show with Jon Stewart could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.
Fox News responded to the survey by questioning the credibility of the university.
All the news media outlets cater to their audiences even if that makes them fringe lying Lap Dogs. They're captivating a certain type of consumer by telling them what they want to hear and market that air time to specific advertisers. What about the video tape lie told by the White house Phil?
Mr. Ventura,
90 % of the media and anything connected to the media leans left. Academia also leans left in large measure. It's hardly any wonder that FoxNews has no awards and that studies show it's viewers are stupid.
It's also true that Foxnews has quite a large audience. An unbiased observed notes that FoxNews and talk radio lean right and most of the rest of the media and academia leans left.
That's just the truth and to trumpet ANY 'news' organization that is a cheerleader for one side or the other (which they all are) is just sad.
There are no 'news' organizations in America anymore; not as that term used to be understood. It's all cheerleading now. CHOOSE YOUR TEAM....
Michael
Mr. Sun,
I am confident that the several posts by Phil Ventura are plagiarized, as he has not cited any source. Please act accordingly.
Regards,
Purgatory
Hey Willie I'd suspect that Springer is a Democrat. How about you?
Oh and I'd rather have the highest rated cable news show in the world than get an award from some politically correct organization. As a capitalist, there's more money in it!
There is no real decline -- all smoke and mirrors by Obama & Co.
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/11/th...
Phil Ventura thinks MSNBC reporters have the real facts? Ed Schultz is a real hair on fire pundit as is Matthews and the lying Al Sharpton of Tawanna Brawley fame. Those apes at Msnbc cannot be trusted with the truth.
Fox viewers believed that the "U.S. has found clear evidence in Iraq that Saddam Hussein was working closely with the al Qaeda terrorist organization"
Fox viewers belie that "The U.S. has found Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq"
Fox viewers believed that "the majority of people [in the world] favor the U.S. having gone to war" with Iraq.
Frank O'Donnell, identified as a former Fox News producer, says: "We were stunned, because up until a certain point, we were allowed to do legitimate news. Suddenly, we were ordered from the top to carry Republican, right-wing propaganda", including being told what to say about Ronald Reagan.
CNN founder Ted Turner accused Fox News of being "dumbed down" and "propaganda" and equated the network's popularity to Adolf Hitler's rise to power in 1930's Germany.
In August 2006, two Jordanian-Arab freelancers who were working for Fox News as producers, resigned from the network. Their resignation letter read in part: "We can no longer work with a news organization that claims to be fair and balanced when you are so far from that...
On September 5, 2011, Fox News criticized a speech by James P. Hoffa in Detroit calling for an "army of voters" to take the SOBs out and give America back to Americans. But Fox edited out the mention of voters to make the speech sound like a call for violence.
I could go on for weeks and I haven't even mentioned altered video reports!
Hey Purgatory
Source on this post:Wikipedia
Zero journalistic awards for FOX source: DailyKos.com
Fairleigh Dickinson study source:Fairleigh Dickinson university
My original letter source: Phil Ventura. Happy now?
Mr Sun. Isn't this silly?
Mr. Ventura obviously has a lot of spare time on his hands. I guess he also doesn't know that he doesn't have to watch Fox if he doesn't want to.
Phil, I'm more than skeptical. Mr. O. just authorized 2 million work permits for younger illegals. Add that into the work force and unemployed and we have 10% unemployment. Here's a clue on how to do the math. Increase the work force of roughly 100 million by 2 million.
Increase the number of unemployed by 2 million, from the 7.8 million they're using to get 7.8 %. That's 9.788888%.
Same people reporting the unemployment #'s as have been for the last 3+ years. It had to get better sometime so go with it and be optimistic for a change. It's actually a nice feeling.
Purgatory. These were my words. My birth certificate provided upon written request.
Fox News also likes to say it gives "the other side" of the issue. How about adopting a policy of simply disseminating the best version of the truth? Instead, everything has a political bend to its reporting.
Numerous studies have shown those who watch Fox News are the least informed of all TV news viewers which shouldn't surprise anyone since the president and CEO of Fox News is Roger Ailes, a career republican political consultant whose big idea when he worked for the Nixon administration was to put the GOP on television: hence we have GOP TV, aka Fox News.
Phil.....Great letter.
Fox is the worst of the worst and MSNBC is the
best of the best.
YES, GOP TV was the idea of that crook
Richard M. Nixon.
Nixon said that the republican party needed it's
own TV channel.
And to this very day, republicans are STILL
liars, thieves and crooks.
That will never change.
NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!
Fox News is horrible. If you want to be misinformed, I highly suggest you tune in to them.
They even get maps wrong. I saw a highlight once of a prison break in Arizona. On the map they put up for viewers, Kingman was where Flagstaff is and vice versa. They can't even understand cartography.
Fox News is basically the AAA Network. Because they get ALL the news ALL wrong ALL the time.
I don't watch it. But to show you how bad it is, I mistakenly hit the remote and turned on Fox News for a few seconds. When I realized my mistake and switched it, I happened to look over at my cat. My cat was giving me a dirty look! That's how bad it is. Even my cat hates it.
Faux Noise has already admitted in court that they are an entertainment channel and not a legitimate news source! LOL
I think all stations spin their own way, look at the comments after the debates. I always wonder what would happen if they, I mean any of them, would report the good news such as the wonderful changes in lifestyles the people in Iraqi or Afghanistan have had with the help of our military, rather then a death or bombing.