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GOP got nation into this mess

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The American people don’t want hot air. We are all searching for the facts. There is a reasonable question I’d like to have answered with facts in one of the presidential debates.

The eight-year Clinton administration handed the George W. Bush administration a multitrillion-dollar surplus and a booming economy to work with. The eight-year Bush administration handed the Obama administration a multitrillion-dollar deficit, two unpaid wars, a looming depression, a financial system near collapse, a crumbling national housing industry, a skyrocketing unemployment percentage, a sick auto industry about to go under and a commitment to do nothing for the American people to help fix it all.

All of this would make certain the Obama administration, along with the American people who voted for it, would fail, and not in eight years but in four.

In the face of that mindless resistance, the Obama administration succeeded in rescuing the auto industry, ending a war, bringing troops home, eliminating our most dangerous enemy, turning advancing unemployment into decreasing unemployment, passing a health care bill, and presenting a bill that would dramatically increase jobs by stimulating repairs to our sad, crumbling national infrastructure, only to have it blocked by the party of the former administration.

My three-part question is: Why should a citizen vote to toss our country back into the sinkhole from which it is slowly emerging by hiring back the administration that caused it? How does that make any sense? Where is the logic in that?

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  1. The answer is that the citizen's should not vote for Romney, it makes no sense, and there is no logic in repeating the mistakes of the Republican past.

  2. If we use John Dombek's logic further then George HW Bush caused the dot.com economic expansion and balanced budgets in the 1990's. Weak logic but it's a free country and anybody can come up with their own conclusions but educated voters will understand Dombek is just attempting to divert attention away from Obama's own record which the debate performance revealed is tough to defend.

  3. If one approves of President Obama's philosophy and policies they should vote to re-elect him. I hope however that Mr. Dombek's revisionist history is not part of anyone's decision making.

    The 'surplus' created under Clinton and an R Congress was quickly being consumed as the dot com bubble turned into the dot com bust in 2000. As Bush came in, a recession that had started under Clinton arrived too. Before we knew it, 9/11 happened, making an existing recession much worse.

    Tax cuts were passed to try to stimulate the economy during a tough recession and economic activity did pick up.

    The seeds of the bank problems and the housing mess are found in the Clinton Administration with the repeal of part of Glass Stegall and the 'everybody should own a house program' championed by both idiot R's and D's.

    Our government, all of it, is responsible for many of our problems and trying to place all the blame on one President or one party is truly revisionist history and should have no place in anyone's decision making process.

    If you approve of Mitt Romney's philosophy and proposals, you should vote to elect him President.

    Michael

  4. Letter writer must be living in a bubble for the last 4 years. Doesn't realize that candidate Obama was elected president in 2008 and had a democratic controlled Congress, with Nancy Pelosi in the House and dirty harry in the Senate through Nov 2010. And dirty harry still there. But not for long. Not as majority leader.

    CarmineD

  5. Wall Street greed caused the financial crises and led to the Great Recession. In 2008 even President Bush compared Wall Street to "a drunk with a hangover". Now, Wall Street and the Republicans come along with what I call the Flip Wilson defense - "The devil made me do it". And, of course, the devil is the Federal Government.

    Truth is there was big money to be made by writing home mortgages, bundling them into mortgage-backed securities and passing any risk to the new owners of those securities. Since the risk was being passed on, there was no incentive to avoid risk and if you were a carbon-based lifeform you could get a mortgage. When it all went bad the financial system almost collapsed and Main Street lost eight million jobs.

  6. From: John Dombek, Santa Clara, Utah,

    "My three-part question is: Why should a citizen vote to toss our country back into the sinkhole from which it is slowly emerging by hiring back the administration that caused it? How does that make any sense? Where is the logic in that?"

    The writer sums up his piece by asking three logical questions. Questions intended for reasonable people. Before one can answer the questions, one must understand the questions.

    When you read the words from John Dombek of Santa Clara, Utah one gets the feeling John has a sense the country is in some sort of voter apocalyptic malaise. You know, like John is reaching out from a lone State, from his city, from his neighborhood, asking---is anyone out there? Is anyone of reasonable thought and sound mind out there, please respond!

    You can almost see John Dombek of Santa Clara, Utah standing out there, calling up good people and true!

    For John Dombek, from Santa Clara, Utah to ask the questions at the end of his letter tells us there are reasonable people out there. Especially reasonable people from a State some would not expect to hear supporting comments during this upside down Presidential election. And you know what? This is exactly what many of us expected!

    Independent voters who have done their homework, who know the facts on the issues are coming out and speaking out. This is the group that will decide this election. This is what was expected!

    Thank you John Dombek, from Santa Clara, Utah. We hear your message, we see your beacon.

  7. I know of at least 3 commenters who post here. Who have been loyal Republicans myself included that have switched over to voting Democrat for the re-election of Pres.Obama.

    After the disastrous performance of former Pres. G.W.Bush in his 8 years as Pres.Who would want to go back to more of the same with Gov.Romney as Pres? The Republicans have had their time to continue on with prosperty created by the Clinton administration,but instead they chose war with lies instesd.

    Former Pres.Johnson chose war with lies with his Vietnam, Gulf of tonkin caper (1964).It didn't work back then, it hasn't worked for Former Pres.G.W.Bush in Iraq (2003). It most certainly won't work for Gov.Romney in (2013). If he were to be elected. Gov.Romney currently has eyes for war with Iran. Americans are tired of wars made from lies.

  8. A corrupt financial system and rampant real estate speculation got us into this.
    The 1987 stock market crash and dot com bubble were warm ups for the current mess.

  9. Dombek,

    Please rectify your two disparate statements:

    "We are all searching for the facts"

    "The eight-year Clinton administration handed the George W. Bush administration a multitrillion-dollar surplus and a booming economy to work with."

    Why would you state we are all fact lovers and then state a huge lie?

    Go away.

    Purgatory

  10. Ya, John. We can keep spending trillions we don't have and expect no repercussions. Who cares how we got here? Keep pointing fingers as we degenerate into anarchy, austerity, starvation, subject to invasion and attack.

  11. The letter is very off fact and not really correct in so many ways as pointed out by others already. This proves the glass can be half full or half empty.
    No mention of the multi multi trillion Obama deficit spending, no wars or attacks on us like Bush had to deal with, where is all that money going ? At least you can blame Bush for spending the money on a war or to fight off attackers you know where the money went! And the purpose.

  12. "I know of at least 3 commenters who post here. "

    Mr. Pizzo: I have the same number of immediate family members, who voted for Obama in 2008, who won't in 2012. And some made the decision recently.

    CarmineD

  13. BTW, all women.

    CarmineD

  14. "I know of at least 3 commenters who post here. "

    Mr. Pizzo: I have the same number of immediate family members, who voted for Obama in 2008, who won't in 2012. And some made the decision recently.

    CarmineD

    Do you support War? Or better yet, will you fight in the Mitt Romney war?

  15. "Do you support War? Or better yet, will you fight in the Mitt Romney war?"

    I have quoted here the following statement:

    No commander in chief should ever send American soldiers to fight in foreign wars unless and until he [she] has walked the battle field of the American dead and wounded.

    What do you think?

    CarmineD

  16. Comment removed by moderator. Inappropriate

  17. @ El Lobo...

    "Only a complete idiot would deny the damage that George W Bush and his administration did to this country..."

    Ain't that the unvarnished truth...
    The TEA Party going on in this very room is proof positive of that.

  18. "No commander in chief should ever send American soldiers to fight in foreign wars unless and until he [she] has walked the battle field of the American dead and wounded. What do you think?"

    CarmineD

    Well said Carmine, well said. Your true words would disqualify many people from being Commander in Chief.

    Just to clarify, I take your meaning to say, a person must be on the battle field and experience the fighting. That's how I take your meaning, your good words. I things this would be a true measurement of a Commander in Chief.

    Take this a step further, neither Mitt Romney or President Obama would not qualify under these standards.

    We do have President Obama who has some experience in walking the battle field in the Middle East. However, Mitt Romney has no exposure to any type of battle field where people are losing their lives.

  19. Yes, he was in France - on a mission! I would have given him points if he went to Africa, or South America, or Asia.

    France, really?

  20. The elders have no say in where they go on missions. It's out of their hands. BTW, you may want to read about Gov Romney's mission there, if you haven't. You will be surprised about what happened while he was there.

    CarmineD

  21. "Just to clarify, I take your meaning to say, a person must be on the battle field and experience the fighting. That's how I take your meaning, your good words. I things this would be a true measurement of a Commander in Chief."

    First, they are not my words although I quote them often. They are attributed to the Platoon Leader, in the battle of Xia Trang in Vietnam in 1964. It was the battle by all accounts that led us into the war. American troops, about 400, were ambushed by 4000 VietCong and more than half killed and wounded. But all made it home, dead/alive.

    Second, your interpretation is not what I believe about these words. One need not fight, or even serve, to be a C-I-C. He/she needs to walk the battlefield of the American dead and wouded. See, smell, hear, and feel [aka experience] the results of war.

    BTW, FDR was Secretary of the Navy, a bad one at that, and C-I-C during WW2. I have mixed feelings about his performance on that too. Fortunately he had great generals.

    CarmineD