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Morry Gash / AP
Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker casts his ballot Tuesday, June 5, 2012, in Wauwatosa, Wis. Walker faces Democratic challenger Tom Barrett in a special recall election.
Published Tuesday, June 5, 2012 | 4:07 p.m.
Updated Tuesday, June 5, 2012 | 7:26 p.m.
MADISON, Wis. — Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker beat back a recall challenge Tuesday, winning both the right to finish his term and a voter endorsement of his strategy to curb state spending, which included the explosive measure that eliminated union rights for most public workers.
The rising Republican star becomes the first governor in U.S. history to survive a recall attempt with his defeat of Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett and the union leaders who rallied for months against his agenda.
With 37 percent of precincts reporting, Walker was ahead 59 percent to Barrett's 40 percent, according to early returns tabulated by the Associated Press.
A Barrett spokesman said the campaign was not conceding, citing ongoing voting in Milwaukee, Madison and Racine.
"We feel very confident when those come in, Tom Barrett is going to win," Phil Walzak said.
Democrats and organized labor spent millions to oust Walker, but found themselves hopelessly outspent by Republicans from across the country who donated record-setting sums to Walker. Republicans hope the victory carries over into November and that their get-out-the-vote effort can help Mitt Romney become the first GOP nominee to carry the state since Ronald Reagan in 1984.
The recall was a rematch of the 2010 governor's race. Throughout the campaign, Walker maintained his policies set the state on the right economic track. Defeat, he said, would keep other politicians from undertaking such bold moves in the future.
"We're headed in the right direction," Walker said many times. "We're turning things around. We're moving Wisconsin forward."
Barrett repeatedly accused Walker of neglecting the needs of the state in the interests of furthering his own political career by making Wisconsin "the tea party capital of the country." He said Walker had instigated a political civil war in Wisconsin that could be quelled only by a change in leadership.
"I will end this civil war," Barrett promised in a debate. "That is something the people of this state want."
Walker ascended into the national spotlight last year when he surprised the state and unveiled plans to plug a $3.6 billion budget shortfall in part by taking away the union rights of most public workers and requiring them to pay more for their health insurance and pension benefits. It was one of his first moves in office.
Democrats and labor leaders saw it as a political tactic designed to gut the power of his political opposition. State Senate Democrats left Wisconsin for three weeks in a sort of filibuster, as tens of thousands of teachers, state workers and others rallied at the Capitol in protest.
But the tea-party supported fiscal conservative remained steadfast: Walker believed his plan would help him control the state budget, and his opponents could not stop Republicans who control the state Legislature from approving his plans.
Walker went on to sign into law several other measures that fueled calls for a recall, including repealing a law giving discrimination victims more ways to sue for damages, making deep cuts to public schools and higher education, and requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls.
Both sides mobilized thousands of people and millions of dollars to influence voters, whom polls showed were more divided than ever. Signs calling for Walker's removal and those supporting the 44-year-old son of a minister dotted the state's landscape all spring at a time normally devoid of political contests.
Turnout was strong across the state with few problems reported as some voters waited in line to cast their ballots.
"Typically we wait until 5 in the afternoon, but we were chomping at the bit to just get it over and done with because I think it has been an unjust campaign waged against the governor," said Jeff Naunheim, a warranty analyst from St. Francis who voted for Walker first thing Tuesday.
Naunheim said the recall was a waste of money.
"I think the Wisconsin voters voted in 2010 to vote Walker in," he said. "I don't think he did anything illegal."
Barrett supporter Lisa Switzer of Sun Prairie said Walker went too far.
"Even if it doesn't turn out the way we want it to, it proves a point," said Switzer, an occupational therapist and single mother on BadgerCare, the state's health insurance program for the working poor. "People in Wisconsin aren't just going to stand by and let a governor take over the state and cut social services."
More than $66 million was spent on the race as of May 21, making it easily the most expensive in Wisconsin history. That money was spent on an all-out barrage of television ads, direct mail, automated calls and other advertising that permeated the state for months.
Walker used the recall to raise millions from conservative donors and bolster his own political fame in the face of the fight. National GOP groups, including Americans for Prosperity and the Republican Governors Association, poured money into the contest.
Unions got behind the recall drive, which started with the collection of more than 900,000 signatures over two months to force the vote. Barrett defeated the union-favored candidate in the Democratic primary in May and then tried to use that to his advantage, while also courting union support. He pledged to call a special legislative session to restore the collective bargaining rights Walker took away.
Also Tuesday, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch and three Republican state senators also faced recall elections, and a fourth open Senate seat was also to be filled. Democrats hoped to win at least one of the Senate seats, which would give them a majority at least through the end of the year.
The recall also focused as much on his record creating jobs as on the divisive union proposal. Walker promised in 2010 to create 250,000 jobs over four years as governor, and just how many jobs were created under Walker was a major point of contention. Walker relied on new data showing the state added about 23,000 jobs in 2011, while a different survey that Barrett favored found the state had lost about 34,000.
Walker expressed no remorse during the campaign, saying he was sticking with his convictions. "I'm not afraid to lose," he said during a May interview with The Associated Press. "I plan to win, I'm running to win, but I'm not afraid to lose to do the right thing."
But that doesn't mean the public will see a changed Walker after the recall.
"I still think people elected me before in November 2010 and they'll elect me again because they want me to fix things," Walker said in the interview. "They want me to keep the focus and attention on fixing things. We're just going to make sure we've got a more comprehensive and inclusive process to get there."
Associated Press writers Gretchen Ehlke and Marilynn Marchione in Milwaukee, Todd Richmond in Sun Prairie, and Carrie Antlfinger in St. Francis contributed to this report.
If Barrett wins how long will it take for republicans to (begin) recall him? I think they need to be in office at least a year so I am saying a year and a day.
I am listening to MSNBC and they seem overly optimistic at this point, The picture of Walker at the top of this page has him looking like a pimp.
So apropos.
Glad to see the liberals take a beat down. They are stocked to the gills with union thugs, leeches and parasites on society.
94% of Republicans votes for Walker; 92% of Democrats voted for Barrett; Walker took won Indies 50%-49% in exits.
More republicans showed up.
Game, set, match. This night was won by the Pirates of commerce.
See ya in November.
Jeff, "Pirates of commerce"?????
You are clearly watching too much Rachel Madcow.
TEA - great idea. I never watch msnbc, but tonight it is truly entertaining! lol
TEA- politics should not about winning and losing, it should be about making good policy.
Elections should not be a war... It is a contest. By turning it into a war, we ARE risking our democracy. There are good ideas from liberals, there are good ideas from conservatives. If you want to live in a place where elections are wars, move to Venezuela.
Walkers win was a huge win for coporate & outside dollars byuing elections.
Wait to see the amount of outside NV money that will flood Nevada. Good time to own a TV station & raise ad rates & let the billionaires & PAC's pay dearly.
jzetzman - I disagree with you. It is war until everyone is a taxpayer and the policy is such that EVERYONE pays for the sidewalks and streetlights that everyone uses. It is war until the public employees can't vote themselves 10k a month pentions and draw immediately at age 43.
"Public sector unions have reached their high water mark. Let the cleanup begin as the red ink recedes."
Bill Frezza - Forbes
I love it!
Your Next BARRY.............................
Really, TEA? You forgot the 2003 recall of Gray Davis in California and the recount of the 2010 Minnesota Governors election. Both were done by conservatives.
And Al Franken won that election fair and square. He was ahead once all the absentee and provisional votes were counted, then recounted. Sour grapes.
I'm trying to understand this. If the Republicans win because they spent more money it is evil. Yet Reid *and* Angle both raised more money than what was spent on this recall, with both receiving more than 95% of their money from out-of-state.
Does that mean that Reid is evil? (I know that most people here will say that Angle is evil for doing so.)
boftx,
You have failed to understand the point entirely. It was not that out of state money was evil. No one has made that argument. It was that spending by billionaires corrupts democracy and buys candidates. Scott Walker is not his own agent, he is just a puppet who's strings are pulled by wealthy Gatsbys.
The latest numbers I see as I post this show Walker with 53% of the vote. If one remembers that Obama received about the same percentage in 2008 then one has to think that the Democrats are in for a fight this November.
This is a good example the Citizens United must be overturned and or constitutional amendment be done. Money does not equal free speech.
Sanity prevails. The whole thing was BS anyway.
Maybe lamestream-media will stop being so nostalgic for unions. It's like watching dinosaurs mating.
Will be interesting to see what Walker takes away next..It will happen.
Hey Dip what do yu think about that election recall? No words of encouragement? Walker won not because of the money spent on his defense, he won because people are sick and tired of the union and democratic rhetoric. Oh and turning a $3.2 billion dollar deficet into a %150 million dollar surplus in less than two years has something to do with it. Good things happen when someone that actually has business savvy takes over. Watch out Mr. President, the train is coming full speed ahead.
Welcome to the banana republic of Wisconsin.
TEA,
Do you think Enron may have had something to do with that energy crisis in California???
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2005/...
"On one tape, an Enron official named Bill tells an employee called Rich at a Las Vegas power plant to take the plant offline on a confected excuse. The conversation took place on January 17 2001, in the last days of the Clinton administration, as blackouts were rolling across California, cutting off electricity to more than one million people, and after the energy secretary, Bill Richardson, had ordered generators across the west to direct their output to the troubled state.
"Ah, we want you guys to get a little creative, and come up with a reason to go down," Bill says on the tape. "Anything you want to do over there? Any cleaning, anything like that?"
"OK, so we're just comin' down for some maintenance, like a forced outage type thing?" Rich replies, according to transcripts published yesterday. "I think that's a good plan, Rich," Bill says. "... I knew I could count on you."
A spokeswoman for Enron, which is still going through bankruptcy proceedings, refused to comment."
Wisconsin voters just took the state back from the crazies in Madison and, as a former Wisconsinite, I applaud them. It almost, not quite though, makes me nostalgic for the Badger State. I put in 50 years with those nuts in Madison, the "Berkley of the Midwest," squeezing more and more from the productive so they could coddle the worthless, the lazy, the parasitic, the criminal, the weird and the alcoholic and/or drugged out classes that mushroomed in the state. I, like many others, voted with my feet and beat it out of there. The turn-around began with Tommy Thompson and has reached its culmination with Scott Walker. What Wisconsinites did yesterday was not only good for them but will be good for Nevadans and the rest of the USA, as well. Good riddance to the "progressive" agenda and its wreaking havoc on traditional America! Come November, vote Mitt!
Here is some reality.
Let the TEAbaggers gloat. The victory was decisive.
Let the TEAbaggers get their ego's in an uproar.
then read below:
First, 60 percent of voters thought that recall elections were only appropriate for official misconduct, while 27 percent said "any reason." Another 10 percent said "never"--and those voted for Walker 94-5. It's hard going into any election with 10 percent immediately off the board, and for those who said "only official misconduct," Walker won 68-31. Turns out people just didn't like the idea of a recall--something worth filing away as an important lesson learned.
Second of all, young people didn't turn out. Only 16 percent of the electorate was 18-29, compared to 22 percent in 2008. That's the difference between 646,212 and 400,599 young voters, or about 246,000. Walker won by 172,739 votes. Turns out having the recall in the summer, when the universities were out, was among the biggest strategic miscalculations.
So given all that, it was interesting to see Republicans pretend Wisconsin will be in play in November.
Make sure you let people know that the TEAbaggers will be acting like Tarzan for a while, but that at the end of the day, they still smell and have no manners.
Pass this link (Ten corporations control everything we buy) http://www.bartcop.com/ten-corps-everyth... to everyone you know and say here is the republican party. These are the people that tell you what to watch on TV, what to eat for breakfast lunch and dinner, that want to get into rape victims vagina's with invasive instruments and want to make employee work rights a chapter in a history book, similar to slavery, which come to think of it...
With the voters sanity, the NYSE is rallying. Go figure. I certainly hope those who instigated this waste of time and money get to foot the millions in costs for the recall election. And I hope this does not encourage complacent behavior--we still must work to restore sanity in national politics. Unions have been empowered right into extinction?
Some TEAbaggers are simpletons. I read all of those tweets and for someone to think or say those views are the same as liberals and progressives, well, a person like that would be being untrustworthy, dishonest, and lacking in integrity.
TEAbagger said:
"Well...we still have to fix the problem of the 47% in U.S. that pay no Fed. Income Tax. Leaving the seniors alone of course. They paid theirs."
I say:
Glad to see you are more aligned with Obama than republicans on rolling back the Bush tax cuts. Unless you are saying you favor a minimum federal tax rate for all Americans?
In other words, a tax on the working poor.
If this is the case how much revenue do you think your TAX INCREASE will bring the treasury? How much of a hit will local business take if an average non tax paying worker now loses $35 per week in wages?
Simply put, this is a victory for tax payers and consumers who pay higher taxes and consumer prices to cover inflated union wages and pensions. Unions are a special interest group, nothing more. Wisconsin membership in the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees--the state's second-largest public-sector union fell to 28,745 this February from 62,818 in March last year. The writing is on the wall for the special interest group called unions.
TEAbagger:
Would this minimum federal tax be applicable to corporations too? I may support it if it would.
Remember the republican mantra, corporations are people too.
Now Jeff,
You know you can't expect rational thought from TEA or Ref. Write for the sane readers but never expect the cranky old white guys club to change their minds because they have no mind to change.
RefNV said:
"The writing is on the wall for the special interest group called unions"
Even if what you say is true the unions have elevated the public dialog and citizens will rise up in one form or another if the pendulum swings too far. We have used unions as a way to bridge our differences over the past century and avoided bloodshed in most cases. The European model is to take to the streets, often with great success. I am sure if Americans are abused by your benefactors the American people will stand up.
Many people I know were in agreement with the pension reductions in California, and are against tax increases on tobacco. Claiming these as "republican" victories is misleading. I think cigarettes should be outlawed, period.
Jeff, don't be a dolt. Your man (Obama) and his ilk had the whole system to themselves for two years. They could have done anything with taxes or how a corporation is viewed. THEY DIDN'T.
They chose to go down some nebulous bunny hole called healthcare reform (Obamacare). Blame them, not the Republicans, who couldn't appoint a dog catcher during those to years.
Blame the Republicans all you want while keeping your head in the sand about Obama and his failed governance of our country.
"Everybody else's fault" seems to be your mantra. You are definitely a Democrat
Mschaffer, how many times can you be irrelevant and still think you are relevant??
"cranky old white guys club"???
So you prove my theory that you are an abject racist as well as global warming minion.
My day is looking up all the time.
Enron was a Clinton thang. They would have ran cap&trade under a president gore. Thank god we dodged that trainwreck.
Jeff- I know you're a passionate liberal poster and I feel for your loss with Walker's decisive victory yesterday. Each state can have different results so don't get too down about it. With so many moderate democrats voted out or retiring, it might be a good time for democrats to define who they are to the American voter. Right now, unions and Occupiers are the two groups most associated with the democratic party. The democratic party needs to state who they are and where they want to take our country. American's top three concerns are jobs, the economy and debt/deficit spending. Right now, if you're a democrat it's blasphemy to even utter the phrases "reduce the deficit", "reform entitlements" or "reform the tax code" yet Americans are seeing the need to achieve all three objectives. Jeff, your party is at odds with remedying American's top three concerns; jobs, the economy and debt/deficit spending and this is why moderates and independents have moved center-right politically.
In celebration of my 1,000th post a few days ago I thought I would offer up a gift that would have little if any disagreement. Here is a link to a series of photo's taken my yours truly (17 to be precise) at the Red Rock Canyon BLM s few weeks ago.
I have made it an even 48 x 10 inches should anyone want to print it can get a frame that will hold it. It is 26 MB large and I hope you all enjoy one thing on all political sides once every thousand times I post. http://jefffromvegas.smugmug.com/Nature/...
You can get it printed at various places, here is one: http://ezprints.com/Prints/panoramas/def... it would cost $16 plus whatever they charge for shipping.
God Bless all of you.
RefNV said:
"Jeff, your party is at odds with remedying American's top three concerns; jobs, the economy and debt/deficit spending and this is why moderates and independents have moved center-right politically."
I am not really a democrat, being a Born Again Christian makes me and a lot of their ideas not compatible. I am more of an anti-republican and seethe that my fellow Born Again's get suckered into allowing and fostering the type of politics we have today. I think they are led around by the nose regarding gays and abortion.
The evangelical vote, politically are a lot like truck drivers, they move powerful things but do not know their true power. Truckdrivers and Evangelicals get taken advantage of by people all the time, they are both looked down upon by large segments of the population. Imagine if every truck driver said, that's it. and shut down for even 2 days. Instant hatred and instant respect. If the evangelical/Born Agins would move to the Democrats for one election...Instant hatred, instant respect.
If the Evangelical vote would stand for enforcing care for the woman who has been impregnated who for whatever reason does not want the child I could be for a total ban on abortion.
I want to get us to a point where an ever changing cast of characters has at least 20-25% of both parties voting on things that make sense.
One example is too big to fail. If we locked Cantor, Pelosi, Boehner, Hoyer, McConnell, and Reid into a room, gave em cell phones and wouldn't let em out (figuratively) as Americans we would all gain.
I mostly try to show the left wing how to fight by using right wing tactics. They (the right wingers) really aren't used to looking in the mirror.
Thanks for your PM about the picture. It is an interesting Panorama with rain to the left, sunshine to the right...
Dipstick:
Walker was running and being re-imaged as a "compassionate Conservative" since December.
The dems screwed up not coalescing on one person at the same time. Hindsight is easy. Just never forget.
Here is the result of that incumbent anti-middle class juggernaut courtesy of the Koch Brothers and Karl Rove: http://www.motherjones.com/files/images/...
Walker's win is bad news for everyone except the oligarchs that have seized control of America. It means another round of wage and benefit cuts for yet another group of workers; another shift of wealth upward and away from ordinary Americans; increased privatization and even more corporate influence in our political system (if that's possible). It makes a mockery of democracy.
I'm impressed with the Wisconsin Democrats. They put up a whopping fight. Had they not been outspent by outside interests, democracy most likely would have prevailed. It's reprehensible that corporations are allowed such a disproportionate influence in the people's business. We are losing our democracy and our standard of living because of it.
Conservatives like to label any constraints on commerce as "anti-business." Wisconsin reveals that the political system is actually skewed in favor of business and that, as it turns out, it's really business that is anti-worker. It's clear as day.
Wolf Blitzer sounded "joyous" when he declared at 9 p.m.: "We begin with breaking news out of Wisconsin where polls have just closed in a recall vote that could preview November's election."
Then he almost cried when the magnitude of the radical lefts defeat became clear and totally dropped his prediction that it was a " preview November's election." when the "preview" showed that Obama is doomed!
Wolf, you were right, the American people are sick and tired of these government employee unions that some how think they are "entitled" to live the good life as the rest of Americans are struggling to make end meet! It's time to end all government employee unions, these people are supposed to be working for the people, NOT themselves!
This Wisconsin election proves that the American people have woken up, Obama is doomed, America is Saved! And, the stock market agrees, the Obama destruction plan is doomed, the American people have come through again!
See more details>>>> http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/media-humilia...
FDR openly opposed bargaining rights for government unions.
"The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service," Roosevelt wrote in 1937 to the National Federation of Federal Employees. Yes, public workers may demand fair treatment, wrote Roosevelt. But, he wrote, "I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place" in the public sector. "A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government."
-FDR
JefffromLV: All my relatives I have been in contact with and who still live in the Badger State voted for Scott Walker even though they all voted for Osama Obama, are mainly Dumbocrats and most belong to unions. All of them work for a living, don't look for handouts and are fed up with the way things are going. Plus, they were among those who believed the recall was bogus BS. Like the kid who cries and takes his ball home instead of playing the game. Unions should work for, not against their members. BTW, when unions back illegals who work for less and take money under the table and jobs from their very own members, they are out-of-touch and are harming, not protecting, their members. The fat cats at the top of the unions continue to make big bucks while the rank & file suffer lay-offs and reduced hours. How nice of them!
Jerry
I moved here from Wisconsin. At the local county fair the guy who had his booth next to me was Paul Ryan. I had a hard time not crackin up over his really sophomoric approach to any issue he would try to talk with people about. Politicians as a group are a weird bunch, having been in the room with quite a few of them. The only group that creeps me out more are the local reporters, especially the TV media covering politics.
You are of a clearly even lower group of people with a clearly racist/anti Muslim mindset calling our Christian President of the United States who has had one wife and moved his way legally through the system "Osama Obama".
Your overall message was not too bad, but why would anyone ever want to talk to you again?
At this point, I don't.
By the way, as a result of the recall elections:
"Though the Racine County race has not been called or a concession made, Democrats appear to have picked up the one seat needed to take a narrow 17-16 majority in the Senate and serve as a check on Republicans for at least the next half year."
So the brakes have been put in place.
For the Dems that looking for some ray of sunshine on the Wisconsin fiasco, they are pumping the one state senate seat.
It is a pyrrhic victory at best.
Read and weep.....
"Easing the loss for Republicans is the fact that the Senate has already adjourned its regular business for the year and that a new set of legislative district maps approved by GOP lawmakers last year will give their party a strong chance of reclaiming the Senate in November's elections."
"The district changes dramatically under new maps Republicans drew last year, making it almost impossible for a Democrat to hold. He could also be recalled under the new map this time next year."
If it's true that, as some posters claim, the value of unions in general and collective bargaining in particular (or vice-versa) has lost importance in America, then it behooves us all to take a long look at what it is we do value if not the rights of individuals to speak with one voice, e pluribus unum.
When we look back on our friends and enemies, and lessons we learned, it should come as no surprise that being able to acquiesce to the wisdom available is far more beneficial than adhering to mistakes though the change may feel like a loss of self-respect, for in fact we are better off to lose that battle and win the war just as learning beats the daylights out of fooling around.
Having smarter friends and smarter enemies is a blessing only we see the wisdom of chucking our previously held erroneous views in order to check out things through better eyes.
So we do away with right to assemble and to voice our opinions collectively, what then?? Accede to the plutocrats and power-hungry robber-barons whose goals are best expressed in the outcome of Citizens United - that is, that the multi-national corporations and 1%-ers actually own the right to purchase our freedoms, to concentrate greater powers in fewer deeper pockets at the expense of our lives?? As in pre-civil war communities where the highest bidder owns our independence and very lives??
Is this the best way to pass the loving cup along?
The best way to cultivate our better selves??
To mobilize our community strengths??
To engender autonomy and creativity??
To improve this campsite beyond the condition we found when we arrived here in this paradise for our brief stay??
I would think a backlash of rejection might follow such an upheaval, a tsunami of tsocialized tcitizens touched by the tragic trejection of thumanity, tso to tspeak.
The "t" is silent, for now, but the Truth will be ruthless in the end. And the last shall be first, and the first, lasT.
RefNV Claimed:
"FDR openly opposed bargaining rights for government unions."
I say:
I really hope you were not this misleading on purpose. Here is a larger portion of what FDR said that clearly states the opposite of what you have claimed:
FDR Writes:
"The desire of Government employees for fair and adequate pay, reasonable hours of work, safe and suitable working conditions, development of opportunities for advancement, facilities for fair and impartial consideration and review of grievances, and other objectives of a proper employee relations policy, is basically no different from that of employees in private industry. Organization on their part to present their views on such matters is both natural and logical, but meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government.
All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.
Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable. It is, therefore, with a feeling of gratification that I have noted in the constitution of the National Federation of Federal Employees the provision that "under no circumstances shall this Federation engage in or support strikes against the United States Government."
I congratulate the National Federation of Federal Employees the twentieth anniversary of its founding and trust that the convention will, in every way, be successful.
Here is a link to the whole letter: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index....
On credulity, context and reliability...
Jeff...1; Re...0
End of story.
The Truth, the WHOLE truth and nothing but...
Thanks for the historical perspective and the hysterical defrocking of one whose obvious slant has slanted his integrity, blurred his ethics and morphed his transparency into obtuse opacity, calculated lies and obvious self-interest in his revisionist approach to what is.
Let's hear it for decency, context and accuracy.
Let's hear it for forthright respect for truth.
And let's smell the stinky posts of the dogs lifting their legs and leaving their own stench in the name of 'information' ... :}
The right wing apologist said:
"But if they don't get what they want, they cannot strike to get it. That is why when the air traffic controllers did it...Reagan fired them.
Both commentors are right."
I say:
I gave RefNV an out. I gently asked him a question. He last posted before I published the real thoughts and words of FDR. He still has time to say he was wrong.
The difference is before Walker and the Pirates did away with collective bargaining the unions had agreed to all his demands financially. It was union busting pure and simple. Walker, like you, are both devoid of integrity.
For the real story this weekend, go here: http://www.dailykos.com/blog/nnlive/